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Upgrade
by Relay
Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.
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614: $100 Billion Is the Floor
We read between the lines of Apple's latest record financial results to see how they will impact future products and aquisitions in the Ternus Era. Plus: An Ultra name conundrum, Johny Srouji's burnout, and F1's stateside debut.
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614
613: I Know I Picked Too Many iPods
Given a week to process the news of Apple's CEO transition, we ponder where Apple will go under John Ternus, the role of Johny Srouji, and why a book about Tim Cook would not be a cookbook.
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613
612: 'That Leader is John Ternus'
Breaking news! Apple announces that Tim Cook's tenure as CEO is ending, and John Ternus and Johny Srouji get promotions. And when that's done, we finish our Apple at 50 coverage with a vibe-based draft.
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612
611: Drain the Bin
Is it possible that Apple could run out of MacBook Neos? What's Apple's smart glasses strategy, really? We tackle both questions, discuss Jason's new UWB smart lock, consider the shape and name of the folding iPhone, and more!
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611
610: We Hear You're Good at Computers
The Mac Pro is dead, iOS 18 security updates are now available for all, and Siri's upcoming revamp comes into focus. After all that's done, both hosts share their Apple origin stories.
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610
609: The Origin of Apple
Jason and Myke tell the story of Apple's origin. It emerged from the unique environment of the Santa Clara valley suburbs of the '70s thanks to the particular genius of its two co-founders and some surprising help they got along the way.
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609
608: Pop and Lock
Myke talks to Jason about his "Jeopardy!" experience, and Jason interviews David Pogue about his book, "Apple: The First 50 Years."
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608
607: Lime Has Left the Chat
Myke has MacBook Neo FOMO and we have reviews of both Studio Display models. Also: Apple starts celebrating 50; App Store fees are lowered in China; Somehow, AirPods Max returned; Apple's AI crisistunity; and Jason in Jeopardy!?
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607
606: Photogenic Lemon
This week, Jason reviews the MacBook Neo! Plus: Draft results, Jason is (back) in print, and new MacBook Pros and Studio Displays. But it's mostly about MacBook Neo!
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606
605: The 2026 March Experience Draft
Jason and Myke try to predict what Apple will be announcing this week, except for the stuff that was announced Monday. But they discuss the new iPad Air and iPhone 17e too! Also: Apple's F1 plans and some Report Card follow-up.
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605
604: The Shifting Sands of Liquid Glass
We discuss the results of the Six Colors Apple Report Card for 2025 in depth, with our added opinions on every category. Jason chooses to be a rascal, and Myke tries to give ten out of five.
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604
603: Recalibrate the Quality Bar
We discuss Apple's struggles to ship an upgraded Apple Intelligence, prepare for a March 4 product announcement, and explain Apple TV going all in on "Severance." Also, Jason answers your (many!) curling questions!
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603
602: Get Our Necks Limber
Eddy Cue comes down hard on a would-be Apple service; we try to figure out what the new low-end Mac laptop might be, Tim Cook calls an important meeting to say a lot of words, and we tackle all aspects of the Super Bowl plus some curling!
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602
601: Spreadsheet for Creators
We break down Apple's latest financial results (including the potential supply-chain storm brewing on the horizon) and then discuss the difficult roll-out of Apple's new Creator Studio bundle.
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601
600: Based on Hopes and Dreams
Episode 600 prompts us to revisit predictions from episode 500 and make some new ones for episode 700. We also cover new AirTags and Apple's plans to fix Apple Intelligence.
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600
599: Free... Although
This week we're following up on what the Apple-Google AI hookup means and reacting to Apple's announcement of an oddly shaped creative apps bundle.
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599
598: Transparent Man of the People
Google and Apple join forces to corner the market on smartphone AI models, John Ternus gets a profile in the New York Times, live NBA basketball comes to the Vision Pro, and Apple inconsistently refuses to stop bad App Store behavior.
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598
597: Our 2026 Wish List
Happy New Year! In this episode, we share some of the things we hope we'll see from Apple in 2026. Also, Jason attacks an emoji.
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597
596: The 2025 Upgradies
It's time for the 12th Annual Upgradies! Myke and Jason discuss their favorites of 2025, take the input of many Upgradians, and hand out awards in numerous categories! Only the finest will walk away with the most coveted of titles: Upgradies Winner.
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596
595: Contrast in the Horse
After whipping through a bunch of segments in order to play as many jingles as possible, Myke and Jason celebrate the festive season by aesthetically judging the new icons of macOS Tahoe. Happy holidays to all who celebrate!
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595
594: Featuring Crimes
We discuss what laptops Apple is expected to release in 2026, Apple's AI parsing of podcasts, that time Jason didn't really almost work for Apple, and weird snacks.
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594
593: Oops! All Departures
The week everybody left Apple.
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593
592: Metaphorical Pipeline
Let it snow, let it snow, let it... Snow Leopard? We discuss Apple's '27 OS priorities, a decorative holiday app, how Apple might have approached engineering the folding iPhone, and a surprise return to Intel (sort of).
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592
591: The Apple TV Draft
It's Thanksgiving week, and Myke and Jason are using the occasion to draft their favorite Apple TV shows. There's also some drama at the Rumor Roundup corral involving Apple's succession planning, and Google engineers AirDrop for Android.
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591
590: Who’s This John Apple?
Tim Cook's succession planning hits another gear, Tesla may be embracing CarPlay, Apple shifts its iPhone release plans, and Jason considers the place of the iPad Pro today after traveling with it for a week.
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590
589: The London Air
Jason and Myke are together in London to discuss five years of Apple silicon, Apple's new friendly partner for AI models, and much more!
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589
588: Dodging the Question Intentionally
We react to Apple's latest financial results and the promise of grand iPhone sales to come, break down some juicy rumors about new OLED Apple devices, and consider Apple's latest reported AI strategies.
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588
587: My TestFlight Has a TestFlight
Stephen Hackett joins Jason to discuss modem quirks, new iPhone rumors, cutting-edge immersive video production, and the boring march of Apple silicon.
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587
586: An LLM in the Woods
Jason has spent a little while with the new M5 iPad Pro, M5 MacBook Pro, and M5 Vision Pro (with accessories!) and we review them all. Also, Apple's deal with F1 crosses the finish line.
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586
585: Slide Over Sickos
It's a new and vibrant era for Upgrade, as we discuss Apple TV changes, iPad software updates, and immersive NBA games. Myke reviews Apple's F1 TV strategy, while Jason comes up with a winning TV series idea and reviews the iPhone Air.
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585
584: I'm the Apple of Lasers
Myke tries Tahoe, ICEBlock gets blocked, and Apple toggles from Vision Pro to glasses.
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584
583: It Feels So Good to Be Right
Jason's spent a week with the iPhone Air and Myke's been using his iPhone 17 Pro, so it's time to discuss deeper thoughts about this year's models. Also: internal chatbot chat, Intel investments, and miniature Macs!
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583
582: First Chance to Make One Impression
Reunited in Memphis, Jason and Myke discuss iPhone and AirPods Pro first impressions, phone transfer troubles, MacBook rumors, and St. Jude shenanigans.
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582
581: A Very Dented Can
Apple's new operating systems have arrived and we've got thoughts about iOS 26, iPadOS 26, macOS Tahoe, and more. We also catch up on what we've learned since last week's Apple Event.
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581
580: Iconic Plateau
From the iPhone Air to the iPhone 17 models, from AirPods Pro 3 to the new Apple Watches, we break down all the announcements from the September Apple Media Event!
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580
579: The 2025 September Event Draft
Jason and Myke preview what will happen at next week's Apple event. What form might a thinner iPhone Air take? Will the AirPods Pro come roaring back? Is the Apple Watch Ultra in store for an upgrade? To the winner goes the glory.
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579
578: The Woven Family of Materials
After an era of stability, Apple may be about to mix things up with the iPhone, including a bunch of new models and even a change to the traditional fall roll-out cycle. And we end the Summer of Fun with a summery Ask Upgrade!
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578
577: Apple's Own Tier List
We imagine how Apple would tier list its own products, and discuss what kind of personality might work for a tabletop "robot" from Apple.
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577
576: Resting Tim Face
Blind ranking bad Apple products, hope for a cheaper MacBook, the perils of Siri automation, and apparently Tim Cook took a trip to Washington D.C. for some sort of meeting?
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576
575: I Love to Accelerate a Roadmap
What's that jingling sound? It might be the cash in Apple's pockets after its record financial quarter. Also: Apple responds to the DoJ, and Tim Cook gives an AI pep talk.
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575
574: The Shame Box
It's Public Beta season and we've got thoughts about the good and bad in macOS Tahoe. Then Jason forces Myke to listen to some sounds of the summer, but probably not the ones you're thinking of.
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574
573: What a Bad Friend!
Apple casts a chill over its employees (and the media?) by alleging a theft of trade secrets, the first folding iPhone really might only be a year away, and Myke forces Jason to rank some classic Apple products.
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573
572: Grand modèle de langage
We discuss Apple's iOS design conundrum, why Apple and F1 are wrong for each other, why it's probably time for a changing of the guard at Apple, and some new and exciting Apple AI contretemps.
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572
571: Am I a Legacy Node?
Fueled by charts, we compile our wish list for a new, low-cost Mac laptop. Will it be a recycled M1 Air or something new? And how disappointingly high will the price be? Also, Apple tries to balance product priorities with its internal teams.
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571
570: The Spite Tier
Why the macOS Tahoe Menu Bar is the start of something big, Apple may lower the bar when it comes to an entry-level Mac laptop, and we try to parse the reasoning behind Apple's latest set of EU App Store rules and regulations.
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570
569: We Need More Rock Stars
Can Apple buy its way out of trouble? We discuss the promise and pitfalls of Apple acquiring an AI powerhouse... or literally anything else.
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569
568: A Persona of a Bearded Man
The Summer of Fun begins with loads of WWDC follow-up, including some big-picture reflections on last week and a discussion of some of our favorite features in Apple's beta OS releases.
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568
567: Are We So Back?
Live from Cupertino, Jason has his in-person reactions to Apple's WWDC announcements. And in London, Myke dangerously installs betas while reacting to momentous iPad and Mac news.
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567
566: The WWDC Keynote Draft 2025
It's time for our 10th annual competition regarding what will happen at Apple's WWDC keynote! What will be announced? Will there be a major redesign? What will the AI story be? We predict it all!
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565: The Scent of Humane
Myke and Jason debate the merits of Jony Ive and Sam Altman's big announcement and what it means for Apple, Tariffs continue to threaten iPhone sales, and Apple may have committed to smart glasses after all.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.
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