What's Fear Got to Do With It | Fear, Growth & the Mind

In this conversation, John Hendry OAM reveals his journey from a stammering child to a decorated educator who spent decades teaching others about forgiveness, relationships and hope.From his earliest days at school, John discovered that the people who looked beyond his challenges changed everything. But the moment that became the blueprint for his entire life came through tragedy. On his seventeenth birthday, after tragically losing his younger brother, John witnessed his father choose forgiveness in the darkest moment imaginable. That choice shaped everything that followed.Built on one principle, forgiveness is not weakness, it's the most enabling tool we possess. John shares how he learned to navigate life non-adversarially, speak to himself with compassion, and build quality relationships as the foundation of resilience.Explore how one man's commitment to forgiveness rippled outward to transform generations.About Our GuestJohn Hendry OAM, has taught in schools for over 50 years. He is a Life Member of Career Development Association of Australia and consultant to UNESCO in Bullying and School Violence. An ongoing “advisor” to Parents Victoria since 2017 and Active Education Australia.  Formerly the Director of Student Welfare at Geelong Grammar School, John is a man of many talents and has received an OAM (Education) and an OAM (Cricket).Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e800:00 Overcoming Stammering: A Journey Begins02:32 The Role of Relationships in Managing Fear06:29 The Impact of School on Self-Perception08:12 Finding Self-Worth Through Sports10:55 The Importance of Hope and Trust in Education13:35 Forgiveness: A Key to Resilience17:41 Navigating Forgiveness and Relationships19:13 The Power of Non-Adversarial Relationships23:40 Understanding Inhibiting Factors in Performance28:04 The Role of Forgiveness in Personal Growth32:38 Managing Fear and Emotional Responses40:29 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this conversation, Sue Carr takes us back to a suburban dinner table in the 1970s, where a 17-year-old girl sat silently carrying a secret she had kept to herself for three months. Pregnant, terrified and frozen by fear, Sue describes waiting, hoping each day might somehow be different, until her mother asked one quiet question that changed everything.Sue shares how the unconditional love of her parents became the foundation for a life she never planned but built with quiet courage and determination. A life of marriage, five children, a return to study at 39, and a career as a primary school principal.This is a conversation about what happens when fear meets love, and love wins. About the power of sharing your burden. About showing up anyway. And about why it is never too late to take the next step.About Our GuestPrincipal, coach and author Sue Carr redefines strength, arguing that maintaining a “strong” facade often leads to burnout, isolation, and a neglect of one’s own needs. Her work advocates for a shift toward self-leadership, encouraging individuals to set firm boundaries and actively reclaim their energy and purpose.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e700:00 Facing Fear: A Life-Changing Moment04:26 The Power of Sharing Burdens08:18 Self-Perception and Growth12:08 Building Confidence and Resilience16:07 Daily Rituals for Empowerment20:02 Navigating Life's Challenges20:51 Navigating Early Parenthood25:46 Building Confidence Through Support29:32 Embracing Opportunities for Growth32:48 Defining Success and Personal Growth37:02 The Greatest Gifts of Life39:27 Key Takeaways for Life's Journey40:50 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

When Justin Robinson's 11-year-old son Sam was diagnosed with bone cancer in 2012, Sam spent 250 nights in hospital and the family faced a constantly unpredictable path forward. Despite being planners who valued control, Justin learned three pieces of wisdom that became lifelines: "Don't plan," "Don't Google," and always say yes when people offer help.Through vulnerability and honesty, Justin reveals how fear was distributed across many shoulders and how accepting support held their entire family. This is a story about discovering that sometimes the bravest thing we can do is simply say yes to the help that surrounds us.About Our GuestJustin Robinson is the co-founder of The Wellbeing Distillery, which supports hundreds of schools across Australia and internationally to embed wellbeing into education. The former founding Director of the Institute of Positive Education at Geelong Grammar School and author of My Manifesto, he is recognised for his warmth, deep listening, and practical wisdom in helping individuals and communities to thrive. Justin is an Honorary Fellow at the University of Melbourne and a leading voice in the global positive education movement.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e600:00 Introduction and Early Life Influences00:38 The Health Challenge of Sam03:29 Navigating the Diagnosis and Initial Reactions07:00 Coping Mechanisms and Support Systems10:17 Lessons Learned from the Journey14:06 Reflections on Fear and Gratitude15:54 The Positive Outcomes and Future Aspirations18:42 The Unexpected Connection21:05 Navigating Fear and Community Support24:12 The Role of Communication in Healing29:27 Embracing Emotions and Vulnerability33:16 Resilience Through Challenges38:15 The Gifts of Adversity39:47 Practical Tips for Coping42:06 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this conversation, Georgina Banks shares her journey of writing a book to honour her great aunt Bud, an Australian army nurse killed in the Bangka Island Massacre during World War II. What began as an act of remembrance became far more challenging when Georgina discovered the full truth had been suppressed for decades.Georgina reveals how she navigated intergenerational silence that had shaped her family for generations, carrying grief frozen since 1942. Despite never having written a book before, she felt compelled to speak up, ensuring these women's story was finally told with honesty and dignity.This isn't just about uncovering historical truth. It's about finding courage to speak when silence feels safer, and discovering that the opposite of fear isn't bravery, it's passion for justice.About Our GuestGeorgina Banks is a writer, facilitator, and occasional performer, with an interest in what makes people tick and social justice issues. With backgrounds in performance and applied psychology she splits her time between her consulting business, ‘Changeable’, and her writing projects. Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e500:00 Unveiling Family Secrets: The Journey Begins02:39 Confronting the Past: The Impact of War Crimes05:11 Intergenerational Grief: A Family's Silent Struggle10:16 The Weight of Silence: Navigating Family Dynamics15:04 The Power of Storytelling: Writing as Healing19:31 Finding Peace: The Response of Family24:27 Passion for Justice: The Heart of the Narrative25:42 Navigating Vulnerability and Criticism29:34 The Drive for Justice and Storytelling31:08 The Gift of Writing and Family Healing34:49 Personal Growth Through Adversity41:06 Lessons Learned and Messages for the Future47:43 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

Louise Bedford shares her journey from a rebellious teenager to a thriving share market trader. When illness stripped away her corporate identity, she discovered her real worth. She opens up about her darkest moment, sitting alone during COVID lockdowns, unable to speak, questioning whether to keep going.In the silence, Louise learned that choosing life isn't always about grand epiphanies. It's about remembering your purpose and understanding that you have agency over who you become, even when everything feels impossible. An open conversation about resilience that doesn't sugarcoat the mess, and a reminder that we are far more capable than our circumstances suggest.Content Warning: This episode includes discussions about suicide. Please prioritise your wellbeing as you listen, and reach out to a mental health professional or a local helpline for any additional support. (Australia: Lifeline: 13 11 14 Beyondblue: 1300 224 636.)About Our GuestLouise Bedford is a behavioural finance expert, professional trader, and Australia’s most prolific female author on the sharemarket. She’s written six bestselling books, founded the popular site Trading Game, and hosts the Talking Trading podcast.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e400:00 The Moment of Change03:51 Childhood Influences and Money Scripts06:42 Lessons from Family Dynamics09:31 The Impact of Health Challenges12:29 Finding Identity Through Trading15:35 The Power of Persistence18:16 Mindfulness and Future Planning29:16 Listening to Our Inner Voice29:49 Personal Snap Points and Turning Points31:33 The Journey of Recovery and Resilience34:40 Finding Purpose Amidst Adversity40:16 Aligning Values with Purpose43:39 The Connection Between Intuition and Action45:57 Choosing Life and Embracing Change50:08 Advice for the Younger Self50:23 Top Tips for Overcoming Fear53:58 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

When Deanna Cooney's marriage ended, she walked away with $50,000 in debt, zero financial literacy, and two young children relying on her. Her nervous system in complete disarray, she spent two years terrified.Through vulnerability and honesty, Deanna shares how she learned to sit with her fear instead of avoiding it. She picked up 'The Barefoot Investor' and built practical financial skills. As her competence grew and her confidence followed, she added breathing techniques and nervous system regulation tools to feel safe. Together, these tools, along with reaching out for support, helped her rewrite inherited money stories and step into her own fierce capability and self-sovereignty.Deanna's story reminds us we have the capability within us to navigate life's messiest challenges, but we don't have to do it alone. Small, consistent steps become the pathway to lasting growth.About Our GuestDeanna Cooney helps smart, capable leaders and high performers find their voice when the pressure is on. With 30 years as a professional performer and over a decade of teaching and coaching, she understands fear from the inside out. Her body-first approach builds nervous system capacity alongside practical speaking skill – going well beyond surface-level confidence. Working across corporate, creative, and leadership environments, Deanna translates performance tools from stage and screen into real-world communication that holds up when it counts.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e300:00 The Moment That Changed Everything01:39 Facing Financial Illiteracy06:08 The Fear of Loss and Judgment10:29 Rewriting Money Stories14:34 Finding Internal Strength17:33 The Importance of Support20:58 Breaking Free from the Feedback Loop25:44 The Role of Support in Shifting Beliefs29:11 Creating Internal Safety for Growth33:58 Managing the Nervous System for Change37:49 Building a Future Self through Safety42:29 Lessons from Fear and Self-Trust45:48 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

Kerry Milligan opens up about one of life's most difficult decisions: placing her aging mother Emmie in residential care. After seven and a half years of caring for her mother at home, dementia forced an impossible choice that triggered massive guilt and forced her to confront lifelong patterns of self-sacrifice.Kerry explores the tension between her rational brain, which knew care was necessary, and her emotional brain, which screamed betrayal. Through support from Violet, a carer advocacy organisation, she discovered that asking for help wasn't weakness. It was the only way to truly care for her mother without completely sacrificing herself.Along the way, Kerry shares how this experience connects to her broader journey of standing in her own power. This is a story about learning you cannot pour from an empty cup, that guilt and love can coexist, and sometimes the bravest thing you can do is admit you need help. Kerry's journey offers honest wisdom for anyone navigating caregiving, family dynamics, or the weight of trying to do it all alone.About Our GuestKerry Milligan appeared for 10 years on the award-winning TV show Gogglebox alongside her mother Emmie and daughter Isabelle. Together, the three generations wrote a bestselling memoir, "Out of the Box," exploring important issues in women's lives through three distinct generational perspectives. When Emmie was diagnosed with dementia after seven years of living with Kerry, the family navigated the difficult transition to aged care. Emmie passed away in July 2025 at age 96.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e200:00 A Life-Changing Moment02:49 Navigating Care Decisions05:35 The Emotional Burden of Guilt07:55 Finding Support and Resources10:29 The Struggle with Guilt and Self-Advocacy12:45 Understanding Aged Care Choices15:14 The Journey of Letting Go17:43 Balancing Care and Self-Care19:53 The Long Goodbye and Grief Process22:16 Navigating Aged Care Decisions25:50 Life After Loss: Finding Joy and Community27:39 Coping with Grief and Seeking Support30:25 The Burden of Caregiving: Women's Experiences34:01 Empowerment Through Education and Independence37:21 Reclaiming Power and Identity41:25 Lessons Learned: Advice for Future Generations42:59 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

Alan Furlong shares his journey from high-achieving executive and entrepreneur to discovering authentic purpose. Throughout his successful career, including building and leading the team that scaled a business to £42 million in revenue, he admits he found himself living in shades of grey, successful on paper, but silently disconnected from what truly mattered. When burnout forced him to stop, hospitalised with what seemed like a heart attack, Alan began a journey of deep questioning and reflection. He reveals how his relentless drive for success masked deeper childhood trauma and also left him feeling hollow. Through vulnerability and courage, Alan shares how he learned to trust himself and walk away from everything. He now helps people with barriers to education and employment to build their own remarkable lives and describes his transformation simply: "Life is colourful." A story about recognising when grey is asking for your attention and discovering that letting go is the first act of courage that can transform your life.About Our GuestAlan Furlong is a successful former entrepreneur and executive who built and mentored multiple start-ups, and used his hard-won commercial expertise to help scale one business to £42 million in three years. Yet despite this extraordinary achievement, he realised he was living someone else's idea of a successful life. After stepping away from it all to wrestle with the deeper question "What is the point of me being here?" Alan now dedicates himself to teaching and helping people live more meaningful, impactful, and healthier lives.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s2e100:00 Facing Life's Challenges: A Personal Journey04:20 The Turning Point: Embracing Change and Surrender14:09 The Messy Middle: Navigating Uncertainty and Growth19:45 Spiritual Awakening: Trusting the Process22:53 The Journey of Surrender and Spiritual Growth24:28 Navigating Career Transitions and Personal Insights27:12 Understanding Fear and Embracing Change30:00 Finding Color in Life: From Gray to Vibrant31:30 The Power of Physical Challenges and Self-Discovery36:13 Lessons from Pain and Growth38:08 Advice to My Younger Self: Faith and Courage39:34 The Gift of Peace Through Life's Journey40:41 Top Tips for Embracing Your Calling42:29 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this special season finale episode, we pause together as co-hosts to reflect on Season 1's remarkable journey through challenge, fear, and growth. We share our personal takeaways from eleven powerful conversations, exploring how each guest's story revealed unexpected gifts within life's challenges. From creating "3am friends" to embracing vulnerability, we discuss how these conversations have changed our own lives while sharing our excitement about Season 2's inspiring stories launching January 28th, 2026.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e1200:00 Season One Wrap-Up and Reflections01:33 Key Takeaways from Guests03:46 The Importance of Vulnerability and Support05:35 Looking Ahead to Season Two07:37 Diversity of Stories and Guest Experiences09:26 Listener Engagement and Feedback This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

What happens when shared learning challenges become an unexpected gift? In this powerful conversation, father and daughter Michael Grinder and Krista Grinder-Dettloff reveal how their early struggles with reading sparked a transformative journey. As a teacher who had taught himself to read after high school, Michael understood his daughter's challenges uniquely. Together, they discovered that different minds process information differently. Now an internationally recognised pioneer in nonverbal communication, Michael, alongside Krista who became a reading specialist, shares insights about fear, self-acceptance, and learning differences. Their story demonstrates how embracing our unique ways of understanding the world can unlock extraordinary potential in ourselves and others.About Our GuestsMichael Grinder, internationally recognised pioneer of nonverbal communication and founder of Michael Grinder and Associates, has trained thousands of executives and educators worldwide. With over 40 years of experience, he helps people assess others more accurately and connect more deeply through his expertise in translating nonverbal communication into practical leadership strategies.Krista Grinder-Dettloff, CEO of Michael Grinder and Associates, brings over 30 years of educational expertise spanning from preschool through college level as a specialist and classroom teacher. Known for her insight, warmth, and practical application, she transforms complex concepts into accessible strategies that help others discover their unique potential.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e1100:00 Intro Michael Grinder & Krista Grinder-Dettloff09:04 Understanding Learning Styles and Their Impact17:55 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence25:56 Building Self-Love and Overcoming Fear31:53 The Power of Poetry and Self-Reflection34:48 Understanding Nonverbal Communication40:22 The Role of Nonverbal Cues in Relationships45:27 Impact of COVID-19 on Communication47:35 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence52:33 Lessons from Childhood and Personal Growth01:02:17 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

What happens when your world crumbles to the point where you can't afford a ham sandwich? Martin Mileham shares his compelling journey from unstoppable success to standing at an ATM with just $2.40 to his name. When the Asian currency crisis hit, Martin lost everything society told him equalled success, but in this loss, he discovered an unexpected gift.With remarkable honesty, Martin reveals how his "ham sandwich moment" became his greatest teacher, eventually leading him from Perth to Dubai, where he rose from site inspector to Vice President overseeing iconic projects like the Burj Khalifa. His story challenges our assumptions about success and security, while offering powerful insights about resilience and the courage to begin again.About Our GuestMartin Mileham has an Architecture degree and over 40 years of experience as a registered Architect.  He has worked internationally on everything from delivering enormous palm-shaped islands in the Arabian Gulf, to being responsible for the tallest building in the world, through to designing one-off street furniture.   He has been the CEO of the City of Perth, the capital of Western Australia and has lived in London, Dubai, Muscat and Melbourne.  Martin and his wife now reside back home in Perth where Martin continues to consult in construction and development.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e1000:00 Martin Mileham Intro04:18 Lessons from Financial Struggles: Pride and Reality08:28 Reassessing Values: What Truly Matters12:41 The Journey to Dubai: Luck and Opportunity20:53 Personal Growth: Flexibility and Life Lessons22:15 Navigating Failure and Courage25:34 The Liberating Experience of Disconnection30:15 Embracing Change and the Concept of Luck35:03 The Role of Fear in Motivation39:44 Lessons from the Ham Sandwich Moment43:01 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

International speaker Amanda Gore reveals how teaching others about joy led to an unexpected discovery: she had forgotten how to live it herself. When the pandemic halted her global speaking career, she was forced to confront the disconnect between teaching joy and experiencing it. Through exploring three life-changing events, including a courageous move overseas at 68, Amanda shares how childhood fears shaped her life choices and how slowing down revealed wisdom she didn't know she needed. This powerful conversation shows us that transformation often begins not when we master our fears, but when we pause long enough to listen to them.About Our GuestAmanda Gore is a Hall of Fame motivational speaker who is redefining leadership, communication and wellness in the Age of Change and Uncertainty. The antidote to burnout is joy!Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e900:00 Amanda Gore Intro04:30 Self-Discovery Through Crisis09:35 Authenticity and Personal Growth14:28 Navigating Emotions and Fear19:44 The Power of Connection and Love27:20 Creating Safe Spaces for Connection28:15 Evolving Audience Feedback and Connection29:11 Facilitating Change and Self-Discovery31:10 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Authenticity34:06 Growth Through Crisis and Life Events36:33 Understanding Core Fears and Self-Love39:50 Questioning Belief Systems and Self-Reflection43:25 Messages to Our Younger Selves45:04 Seeing Challenges as Opportunities48:10 Practical Tips for Managing Stress and Anxiety51:31 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this conversation, Nick Tsakiris shares his journey of discovering a different approach to life when the pandemic disrupted his hospitality career. Already questioning the sustainability of late nights and demanding schedules, he found himself facing an unexpected opportunity to reimagine success. Through reflection, Nick reveals how shifting from asking "What do I want to be?" to "How do I want to live?" transformed his perspective on daily joy and fulfilment.Drawing inspiration from Greek village life and even his dogs' enthusiasm for simple pleasures, Nick shares how he learned to create a life that feels like a holiday rather than waiting for retirement to truly live. His transition from hospitality to cybersecurity isn't just about career change, it's about choosing to prioritise present-moment happiness over future achievements. Nick's experience reminds us that when we dare to question how we want to live, rather than what we want to be , we open ourselves to a more authentic and joy-filled life.About Our GuestNick discusses the challenge that lockdown posed whilst working in hospitality and the fear associated with a lack of direction in life. On reflection, the extreme uncertainty propelled an embrace for change and a philosophical approach to life centred around lifestyle and maximising joy.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e800:00 Nick Tsakiris Intro03:23 The Struggles of Hospitality: Late Nights and Personal Sacrifice07:31 Finding Direction: The Search for Meaning Beyond Hospitality11:45 Existential Questions: How Do I Want to Live?15:02 Maximizing Happiness: Living in the Moment19:25 Reflecting on Life Choices24:37 Redefining Success27:45 Navigating Career Changes31:37 Embracing Change and Happiness36:18 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this conversation, Emma McLarty shares her personal journey through a perfect storm: when menopause, her children moving out, and supporting her aging parents all converged. Despite careful planning for this life transition, she found herself blindsided by the physical, emotional, and psychological challenges that arrived unexpectedly. Through vulnerability and honesty, Emma reveals how her drive for perfectionism became unsustainable. Trying to appear "fine" only deepened her overwhelm until exhaustion forced her to drop the mask, leading to a profound revelation: letting go of perfect wasn't failure, it was the pathway forward.Emma shares how she learned to sit with uncomfortable emotions instead of avoiding them, finding strength in reaching out to others who understood her journey. This isn't just a story about midlife and menopause. Emma's story reminds us that we have the wisdom within to navigate life's messy transitions, but we don't have to do it alone.About Our GuestEmma McLarty is a counsellor and women’s wellbeing practitioner who helps people navigate life’s big transitions with confidence and ease. Drawing on her own experiences and a love of meaningful conversation, she guides women toward clarity, growth, and what’s possible in their next chapter.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e700:00 Intro Emma McLarty02:50 The Impact of Motherhood on Identity04:56 Spiritual Practices and Self-Compassion07:28 Understanding Grief and Loss09:28 Finding Support and Mentorship12:12 Societal Expectations and Personal Journeys14:37 Trusting Yourself Through Change17:15 Lessons Learned from the Journey19:50 Embracing the Messiness of Life23:00 The Gift of Self-Discovery25:20 Advice for Women Facing Midlife Challenges36:19 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this episode, Jill Currie shares what happened when her child Luna (they/them), who is autistic, told her they thought they had Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). "No you don't," was Jill's initial response. Fear of judgement led her down a path of denial that hurt them both. When Luna's distress reached a breaking point, Jill confronted a powerful truth: no-one was coming to save them. The only thing she could change was herself. Through genuine vulnerability, Jill discovered that the parts of Luna she struggled to accept mirrored the parts of herself she'd been rejecting. Her journey took an unexpected turn when she received her own autism diagnosis, giving her the self-compassion needed to truly show up for Luna. Jill's story powerfully reveals that self-compassion can become the bridge to compassion for others, and sometimes the most courageous decision is changing ourselves instead of trying to change others.About Our GuestJill Currie is an author, coach and consultant whose work empowers parents and transforms child-serving systems. Jill’s writing can be found everywhere from literary journals to reports to the (U.S.) President and Congress. She’s currently working on a debut memoir about her own journey parenting a young adult with complex needs. Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e600:00 Jill Currie Intro03:04 Navigating Denial and Acceptance05:37 The Impact of Separation08:09 Finding New Perspectives10:42 The Journey of Self-Discovery13:18 Building Connections with Alters15:43 The Role of Community and Support18:16 Transformative Conversations20:18 Embracing Neurodiversity23:12 The Power of Self-Compassion24:34 Lessons Learned and Moving Forward27:18 The Gift of Creativity29:50 Final Thoughts and Advice39:16 Its A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this episode, Katie Rose shares her journey through anxiety, serious health conditions, and the life-changing moment when she finally said "I'm not okay." Living as ‘an actor in a play,’ she pursued others' dreams while hiding both physical and emotional pain to avoid disappointing people. When thoughts of ending her suffering became overwhelming, Katie courageously told her family, a confession that saved her life. She discovered our assumptions about others' reactions are often untrue. Katie's story powerfully redefines strength: sometimes the bravest act is stopping, honoring your inner voice, and telling others you're not OK.Content Warning: This episode includes discussions about suicide. Please prioritise your wellbeing as you listen, and reach out to a mental health professional or a local helpline for any additional support. (Australia: Lifeline: 13 11 14 Beyondblue: 1300 224 636.)About Our GuestKatie has been a teacher for 16 years, with 6 years in leadership focused on mental health, wellbeing, and engagement. Passionate about helping young people understand emotions and brain science, Katie works closely with students experiencing anxiety. She has also launched a business offering small group sessions to teach coping strategies for anxiety and meditation to children.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e500:00 Katie Rose Intro00:29 Trigger Warning 01:12 Being just OK in the world03:26 Unpacking the Breakdown05:39 Physical and Emotional Signs08:08 The Role of Permission10:31 The Journey to Self-Discovery13:08 The Breaking Point15:42 Crisis and Realisation18:13 Seeking Help20:46 The Path to Recovery28:37 Facing the Unknown: A Journey into Mental Health30:30 The Power of Connection: Reaching Out for Help33:23 Breaking the Silence: The Importance of Vulnerability35:53 Permission to Change: Embracing Personal Growth38:38 Messages to My Younger Self: Understanding Emotions41:32 Listening to Intuition: Distinguishing Fear from True Desire46:52 Gratitude and Spirituality: Finding Meaning in Adversity56:37 It's A Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this episode, David Gregory, OAM, reveals how accepting fear as a daily companion shaped his extraordinary journey of service. From leaving home at fourteen to becoming a CEO and receiving an Order of Australia Medal, his philosophy of "if you can't beat fear, do it scared" has guided him through near bankruptcy to speaking at the United Nations. Ultimately, his journey reminds us that courage isn't about being fearless,  it's about letting our purpose become bigger than our fears.About Our GuestDavid Gregory, OAM, is the Executive Producer of "Just a Farmer" and Director of Live Rural. A member of Beyond Blue's NASBO Steering Committee, he has been recognized with the SME Global Leader award at the UN (United Nations). David serves as an Expert Judge for Awards Australia:  Community Awards and is a member of Screen Producers Australia. He is the former CEO of Small Business Mentoring Service (SBMS).Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e400:00 David Gregory, OAM Intro02:47 Imposter Syndrome: The Silent Struggle05:28 Coping Mechanisms: Running Towards Fear07:50 Achievements and Imposter Syndrome: A Complex Relationship10:07 The Weight of Recognition: Living Up to Expectations12:55 The Role of Responsibility: OAM and Community Engagement14:56 Navigating New Challenges: The Film Journey17:27 Reflections on Early Life: The Impact of Leaving Home22:30 Formative Experiences and Life Choices24:56 The Role of Leadership in Making a Difference27:21 Navigating Fear and Control in Leadership32:37 The Burden of Control and Emotional Challenges38:10 Facing Loneliness and Mental Health Awareness42:44 Lessons from Life: Messages to My Younger Self44:45 It's a Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this episode, Hollie Andrew shares her courageous journey from accomplished actor to entrepreneur, revealing what happens when achieving all career goals leaves you searching for deeper purpose. After meeting every milestone she'd set as a young person, Hollie made the bold decision to walk away from acting success and create a not-for-profit charity supporting actors with disabilities. She speaks openly about the financial anxiety and shame she feels about experiencing fear, and how she's redefined success from external validation to authentic alignment with purpose.About Our GuestAfter 20 successful years across all professional platforms of the arts Industry, Hollie discovered that her unique skill set placed her in the perfect position to be able to affect real change on a path that she would never have predicted. Now, as the Operational Director of Abundabiliteez Productions, she couldn’t be happier in the challenges, wins, hardships, obstacles, successes, and service that she is living and is ahead for her and her artists.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e300:00 Hollie Andrew Intro02:45 Navigating Fear and Financial Pressure05:01 Defining Success Beyond Financial Gain07:30 The Importance of Patience and Faith10:04 Lessons from Vulnerability and Struggle12:15 The Intersection of Fear and Success25:50 Defining Success: A Personal Journey29:15 The Evolution of Purpose32:04 Finding Joy in Authenticity37:43 Navigating Fear and Anxiety42:42 The Power of Vulnerability48:20 Messages to My Younger Self51:54 It's a wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this episode, Olympian Sarah Straton shares what it was like to achieve one of the highest honours in sport, only to realise it didn’t quiet the inner voice telling her she wasn’t enough. Sarah speaks openly about the emotional cost of chasing perfection, the identity struggles beneath the surface, and the inner work it took to finally feel at peace beyond performance.About our guestSarah Straton is an Olympic beach volleyball player who struggled with perfectionism and tying her self-worth to her achievements. After retiring from professional sport, she found purpose in helping others navigate similar challenges. Sarah works with families, sporting organisations, and corporations to facilitate wellbeing and performance.  Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e2 00:00 Sarah Straton Intro00:30 The Burden of Perfectionism02:37 Awareness and Acceptance05:22 The Journey to Self-Discovery07:34 Reflections on Olympic Experience09:51 The Impact of Upbringing12:32 Embracing Imperfection14:51 The Role of Self-Compassion17:07 Navigating Perfectionism Today23:54 The Cost of Action vs. Inaction26:06 Motivation Beyond Fear28:10 Facing Fear and Expanding Comfort Zones30:52 Reframing Fear as Excitement34:00 From Avoidance to Embracing Opportunities36:11 The Gift of Self-Awareness41:08 Messages to Our Younger Selves42:49 Top Tips for Self-Discovery and Growth46:00 Its a wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

Simone Nabholz shares her raw journey from burnout to breakthrough, ignoring warning signs, wrestling with guilt, then finding healing through pottery and ocean swims. Her story reveals how setting boundaries and small daily practices can transform breakdown into profound self-discovery.About our guestSimone Nabholz is a designer, storyteller, and founder of Winterwares, a ceramics studio in Fremantle dedicated to the art of slow living. After experiencing burnout from a fast-paced lifestyle, Simone rebuilt her life with intention, creating work that helps others find beauty in everyday moments. Through her ceramics, writing, and workshops, she gently inspires people to live with presence, purpose, and calm.Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://whatsfear.substack.com/p/s1e100:00 Teaser From Burnout to Balance00:26 The Journey to Burnout11:20 The Crisis of Identity20:52 Finding Grounding in Nature23:47 The Power of Saying No26:33 Defining Personal Values28:50 Living Intentionally and Mindfully31:08 Transforming Passion into Purpose31:58 Rebuilding After Burnout34:06 Building Resilience and Emotional Well-being35:32 Redefining Success and Finding Fulfillment38:41 Embracing Everyday Joys and Personal Growth40:02 Lessons from the Journey43:02 It's a wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com

In this first episode, hosts Jo Wiese and Anne Wicking share the heart behind "What’s Fear Got to Do With It" a podcast created to explore life's challenges and how fear shapes our experiences. Underpinned by unfiltered conversations, Jo and Anne explore their guests' stories as they gently unfold, weaving between surface moments and deeper insights, so the story can be both felt and heard. With a light touch and thoughtful insights along the way, Jo and Anne highlight how storytelling can offer listeners practical wisdom, hope, and the powerful realisation that fear can be reframed as a teacher rather than an enemy, setting the stage for the meaningful conversations ahead.-Read the show notes on our Substack.-00:00 Introduction to the Podcast01:57 Exploring the Nature of Fear03:11 The Journey of Creating the Podcast05:25 Personal Experiences with Fear07:41 The Impact of Fear on Life Choices10:01 The Role of Fear in Personal Growth12:24 The Vision for the Podcast14:24 Connecting with the Audience This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatsfear.substack.com