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Where Do We Go From Here?
by EDJ & Jessica Van Der Wyngaard
A weekly podcast deconstructing purity culture, sex and other real life stuff for thoughtful Christians and exvangelicals alike.
Episodes
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No Hard Feelings Chat About Consent
*Content warning, this episode takes on the complex topic of consent in the context of recent viral content, like Dr. Joanna and James Howe's comments "[we] don't do consent … we do marriage," The Netflix Docuseries "The Death of the Pastor's Wife," and the Cornell Seven. We talk about marital...
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Revisiting Promising Young Woman after the Cornell 7
Revisiting Promising Young Woman after the Cornell 7 "We know instinctively within us there's an enormous cost to telling the truth." — Devi In light of Jane Doe's allegations involving the Cornell Seven and the renewed conversation about consent, intoxication and accountability, Jessica returns…
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Queerly Beloved: Interview with Ann Russo Founder of AMR Therapy
In this interview with Ann Russo, Ann shares her experience growing up in a queer household, exploring Christian theology, and working in religious trauma therapy. We discuss how religious shame and purity culture shape sexuality and self-worth, why autonomy, agency and boundaries matter in...
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The Wonderfully Weird History and Science of Masturbation: Interview with Dr. Eric Sprankle
In this episode, Dr. Eric Sprankle explores the history, science, and cultural narratives surrounding masturbation. We unpack myths about Onania (or Onanism), the belief that Kellogg's cornflakes and Graham crackers were invented as masturbation deterrents, Dhat syndrome, and other attempts to...
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No Hard Feelings Chat: What Do We Do With Our Christian Playlist Post-Deconstruction?
What happens to the songs that once helped shape our faith when our understanding of faith changes? In this episode, we explore the complicated relationship between worship music, deconstruction, theology, and cultural politics. We talk about why certain songs can carry enormous emotional...
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Faith and Feminism: Interview with Meghan Tschanz
In this episode, we sit down with Meghan Tschanz to explore her journey from evangelical purity culture and missionary work to faith deconstruction, feminist theology, and a more expansive understanding of Christianity. Meghan shares how her experiences growing up in purity culture shaped her...
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God, Guns and Christian Nationalism
God, Guns and Christian Nationalism In this episode of Where Do We Go From Here, EDJ speaks with Malynda Hale, executive director of The New Evangelicals, about growing up in a progressive African Methodist Episcopal church, encountering conservative evangelicalism for the first time in college,...
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PODCAST UPDATE
EDJ shares a podcast update, setting expectations for the month of September and going forward.
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Holistic Therapist for BIPOC Women: Interview with Ingrid Nishimoto
In this episode, Ingrid Nishimoto shares an honest and deeply personal journey through faith, purity culture, religious trauma, health crises, and deconstruction. Drawing from her experience as a Korean American and second-generation immigrant, Ingrid reflects on how family, community, illness,...
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No Hard Feelings Chat: What Do We Do With The Bible Post Deconstruction?
What happens when the Bible you once read as a source of certainty becomes a place where you have questions? In this episode, Kristen, Emily, and EDJ explore what it can look like to read Scripture during and after evangelical deconstruction. Together, they unpack questions of biblical inerrancy,...
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Gayer Than Originally Anticipated: Follow-up Interview with Jenna Dewitt - Sapphic, Aromantic, Asexual & Christian
EDJ and Jenna Dewitt sit down for a follow-up conversation about where Jenna has gone and grown since her interview with Jess and Devi in 2021. Jenna shares her journey as an aromantic, asexual, sapphic and celibate Christian, offering a fresh perspective on faith, identity, and belonging....
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RomCom Recap: Down With Love
In this episode, EDJ, Amy and Thea recap the 2003 romantic comedy Down with Love, a colorful homage to the glamorous screwball comedies of the early 1960s. Beneath its playful style, witty dialogue, and impeccable costumes lies a fascinating conversation about gender, feminism, workplace…
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Escaping Purity Culture with Mattie Jo Cowert
What happens when everything you've been taught about faith, sex, and identity no longer makes sense? In this episode, Mattie Jo Cowsert shares her powerful journey from growing up in conservative evangelical culture to questioning the beliefs that shaped her understanding of God, relationships,...
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No Hard Feelings: David, Bathsheba, and What We Do With Good Men Who Do Bad Things
A No Hard Feelings Chat with Jessica, Emily and Kristen Content note: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault, rape, coercion, abuse of power, trauma responses, victim-blaming, and spiritual harm. The story of David and Bathsheba is often taught as a cautionary tale about lust…
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Conversion Therapy Dropout with Timothy Schraeder Rodriguez
What happens when the faith community that teaches you about love also teaches you to reject a core part of who you are? In this deeply personal and courageous conversation, Timothy Schraeder Rodriguez shares his journey through conversion therapy, evangelical church culture, and the long road...
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Exploring Fertility Options with Dr. Jaime Knopman
Own Your Fertility In this episode EDJ sits down with fertility Doctor Jaime Knopman to discuss IVF, egg freezing, miscarriage, endometriosis, and the realities of trying to conceive later in life. Dr. Knopman shares why fertility conversations should begin much earlier than most people think…
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No Hard Feelings Chat: Debunking Myths about Soul Ties and Soulmates
In this month's No Hard Feelings Chat, we unpack the popular concepts of soul ties and soulmates, exploring where these ideas come from, how they've been shaped by culture and faith, and whether they hold up under theological, psychological, and scientific scrutiny. Together, we challenge...
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Bonus Episode: Is the Fire of Hell the Fire of God's Love
What if hell has been misunderstood? In this thought-provoking episode, we unpack one of Christianity's most debated doctrines and explore a radically different perspective on judgment, punishment, and the nature of God. Through personal stories of faith deconstruction, biblical exegesis, and...
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Shame-Free Sex Education
The Truth About Sexual Health and Purity Culture with Erica Smith In this deeply insightful conversation, Erica Smith unpacks the lasting impact of purity culture and explores what it means to pursue truly holistic sexual health. From anatomy education and puberty, to consent, contraception,...
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A Sexual Ethic of Orgasmic Failure
In this expansive and thought-provoking conversation, Dr. Lauren D. Sawyer unpacks the complex legacy of purity culture—tracing its historical roots, cultural entanglements, and deeply personal impact. Drawing from her academic research and lived experience, Lauren explores how purity culture is...
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How to Honor Your Parents when the Relationship is Difficult
What does it actually mean to "honor your parents" when the relationship is strained, distant, or painful? In this thoughtful and nuanced episode, we explore the tension between faith, family expectations, and lived experience. We unpack cultural and biblical interpretations of honor, distinguish...
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Beyond Church Walls
In this deeply insightful and expansive conversation, Chantal McKinney shares her journey through spiritual deconstruction, healing from church harm, and reimagining faith beyond traditional structures. Drawing from her experiences as an ordained priest, mystic Christian, and community builder,...
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Reframing Care Work: Interview with Laura Danger
In this insightful and empowering conversation, educator and domestic equity expert Laura Danger joins us to unpack the invisible systems shaping our homes, relationships, and sense of fairness. With over a decade in education and a background in special education, Laura brings a practical,...
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Bonus Episode: What to Expect from Where Do We Go From Here
In this special bonus episode, we're giving you a behind-the-scenes look at what a typical month sounds like on the Where Do We Go From Here? Podcast. You'll hear: An excerpt from our March RomCom Recap Sneak peeks from two upcoming April interviews Clips from EDJ's conversation with Dr. Kevin...
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No Hard Feelings Chat: What is the Purpose of Church During and After Deconstruction?
Does church still have a purpose when you're questioning everything you were taught? · EDJ, Emily and Kristen share their current relationship with church and one word (or a few) describing their deconstruction season. · They discuss what church actually is and what they find important about a...
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Stages of Faith
In this episode, EDJ interviews Adam Harris, the Executive Pastor at God Why? Church—a church built on people's raw and unfiltered questions. He earned a B.A. at Oral Roberts University, a Masters of Theology at Vanderbilt University, and a Doctorate of Leadership at Portland Seminary. He is...
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No Hard Feelings Chat: What's in a Name? Marriage, Identity, and the Politics of Surnames
In this episode of No Hard Feelings, EDJ, Kristen and Emily explore the complex history and cultural significance of surnames, particularly focusing on the tradition of women changing their last names. They discuss the historical context of coverture, the evolution of women's rights, and the…
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Science and Sex: Bacteria, Bonobos, the Bible and Beyond
Raised in an agnostic family in Adelaide, Australia, Jason John studied zoology because he wanted to work with animals. After these scientific studies, Jason experienced a spiritual transformation that led him to became a six-day creationist, no-sex-before-marriage Conservative Evangelical with a...
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Purity Culture is Spiritual Abuse
In this episode, Katherine Spearing discusses her experiences with spiritual abuse, particularly within the contexts of purity culture and the Christian Patriarchy Movement. She shares insights on how these environments shape beliefs about gender roles, emotional labor, and personal values. The...
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From Virgin vs Vixen to Grace and Consent
This episode marks the final chapter of Where Do We Go From Here? hosted by Jess, and it's centred on a deeply personal, wide-ranging conversation with long-time co-host and author Eady Jay. At the heart of the episode is an interview about Eady's latest book, Reconstructing Sexual Ethics, a...
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Ask Jess Anything: Deconstruction, Sex, Motherhood, and Closure
In this special Ask Jess Anything episode of Where Do We Go From Here?, Jess opens the vault and shares one of the most personal conversations from behind the Patreon paywall. As Jess prepares to step away from the podcast she founded, she reflects honestly on purity culture, sex, faith…
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I've got Questions for Erin Moon
In this episode of Where Do We Go From Here?, Jess sits down with Erin Moon, writer, podcaster, and author of I've Got Questions, for a deeply honest conversation about purity culture, faith deconstruction, curiosity, and what it looks like to stay tethered to God while letting certainty fall…
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Rage Bait, "Childless" and the Gender Blame Game
What happens when algorithms profit from our outrage? In this episode of No Hard Feelings, Jess is joined by Emily and Kristen to unpack a piece of viral rage bait that sparked intense online reactions around dating, loneliness, and gender. Using a widely shared clip from a Diary of a…
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From Purity to Power: Sex, Innocence, and the Legacy of White Christianity
In this episode of Where Do We Go From Here?, Jess is joined by scholar and author Sara Moslener to discuss her latest book, After Purity, and the deeper political, racial, and theological forces behind evangelical purity culture. Sara argues that purity culture was never only about sex. It was...
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Learning to Trust Yourself to Deconstruct and Date
In this episode of Thoughts & Prayers, Jess and EDJ reflect on the year that's been and wade into some of the most tender questions facing Christians who are rethinking faith, sex, and dating after purity culture. Drawing from listener submissions and Christian Reddit threads, they explore what...
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Christmas, Closets, and Consent: A Happiest Season Rom-Com Recap
This Christmas Eve, we're unwrapping a special gift for everyone. Normally, our Rom-Com Recaps are exclusive to our Patreon partners, but for December we're sharing this one on the main feed as a thank-you and a holiday treat. In this episode, Jess is joined by Bri from our Patreon community to...
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Can You Deconstruct Without Losing Your Faith
Summary: In this episode of No Hard Feelings, Jess, Emily, and Kristen take on one of the most timeless questions for Christians navigating doubt and deconstruction: Can you question your beliefs without losing your faith? Jess shares reflections from making I Survived I Kissed Dating Goodbye…
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Starved of Desire: How Purity Culture and Diet Culture Intertwine
In this special interview, EDJ sits down with writer and cultural critic Anna Rollins, author of Famished, to talk about the haunting overlap between purity culture, diet culture, and the ways women learn to shrink themselves — in body, desire, and voice. With honesty and nuance, Anna speaks…
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On Premarital Sex Part 4: Sin or Not a Sin?
In Part 4 of our On Premarital Sex series, Jess and Devi wrap up the conversations that have taken over your DMs and headphones all month long. After exploring progressive sexual ethics with Mathias Roberts, vocational celibacy with Peter Valk and Dr. Dani Treweek, and abstinence as a chosen…
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On Premarital Sex Part 3: Making Sexual Decisions with Wisdom — Not Fear
In Part 3 of our most-downloaded series On Premarital Sex, Jess and Debbie return to the conversation that shaped so much of this podcast's early years: How do you make sexual decisions when you've left purity culture behind? This episode features psychotherapist and author Mathias Roberts…
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On Premarital Sex Part 2: Reimagining Celibacy
In Part 2 of our most-downloaded series On Premarital Sex, Jess and Debbie turn the conversation toward the other side of the sexual ethics spectrum: celibacy. After exploring progressive sexual ethics with Mathias Roberts in Part 1, this episode asks a different set of questions: What does...
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On Premarital Sex Part 1: What are the rules when there are no rules?
In this re-release of one of our most downloaded series, Jess and Debbie revisit a conversation listeners return to again and again: What does a Christian sexual ethic look like after purity culture—especially when it comes to premarital sex? Joined by psychotherapist and author Mathias Roberts...
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What We Can Learn from a Somatic Sexologist
In this episode of Where Do We Go From Here?, Jessica sits down with somatic sexologist Lydia Adéla to explore how embodiment, safety, and self-awareness can transform our experience of sexuality. Lydia shares her journey from believing she was "broken" and unable to feel pleasure, to becoming a...
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Faith, Feminism & Pleasure: Rethinking the Christian Story of Sex
In this month's Thoughts & Prayers, Jess and EDJ dive into what's been stirring in our community conversations — from purity-culture myths about "saving sex for marriage" to what it means to reclaim feminine wisdom in a patriarchal church. The hosts reflect on the latest No Hard Feelings…
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Deconstructing Christian Patriarchy and Reclaiming Feminine Energy
In this episode, EDJ talks with Angela Herrington, author of Embracing the Old Witch in the Woods: Decolonizing the Sacred Feminine and Reclaiming Your Power. Together, they explore what it means to reconnect with feminine wisdom in a world shaped by patriarchy and Christian purity culture.…
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Does Saving Sex for Marriage Set People Up for Better or Worse Sex? - A No Hard Feelings Chat
In this month's No Hard Feelings, Jessica, Emily, and Kristen take a deep dive into one of purity culture's biggest promises — that saving sex for marriage leads to better, holier, and more satisfying sex. Spoiler: the data (and lived experience) tell a different story. They explore: The "sexual...
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Nobody Wants This Season 1 Recap
In this fun and thoughtful Where Do We Go From Here? conversation, Jessica and Devi revisit one of their favourite RomCom Recap episodes from Patreon — a deep dive into the Netflix hit Nobody Wants This, starring Kristen Bell and Adam Brody. They explore why this show hit such a cultural nerve…
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Why 'Waiting on God's Timing' Keeps Women Stuck and other thoughts
In this reflective and wide-ranging Thoughts & Prayers episode, Jessica and EDJ explore the intersection of politics, faith, and deconstruction — from the rise of Christian nationalism in the U.S. to the way purity culture still shapes dating and marriage expectations today. Together, they talk...
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Grace for Parents, Healing for Kids - Chatting to the authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting
Guests: Marissa Franks-Burt – Instagram | Substack Kelsey Kramer McGinnis – Instagram | Substack | Writer at Christianity Today About the Episode: In this episode, EDJ sits down with Marissa Franks-Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis, authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False…
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April Ajoy on Christian Nationalism and Star-Spangled Jesus
This week on Where Do We Go From Here? EDJ sits down with content creator, podcaster, and author April Ajoy to talk about her new book Star-Spangled Jesus: Christian Nationalism in America. April grew up in purity culture as a pastor's kid, surrounded by the metaphors we all know too…
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A weekly podcast deconstructing purity culture, sex and other real life stuff for thoughtful Christians and exvangelicals alike.
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EDJ & Jessica Van Der Wyngaard
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