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WinEH! Podcast
by Winnie Lau
The WinEH! Podcast is all about WINNING in Canada EH. Specifically in the world of how we work with Money, think about Money and how we can use it to ELEVATE our life experience. The Financial Philosophy that we live by is based in the use of the Infinite Banking Concept. We believe that every Canadian deserves to know there is a better way to go about the way we think and manage our money.This podcast has 3 DISTINCT SHOWS. We are sharing ONE show at a time.Each show aims to heal the financial divide created by life experience, history, government and the banks. Alright, come lean in and check out our first show, Ranch Your Way.
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Ep. 121 - Land Rich, Cash Poor: Who Really Controls Your Wealth?
You can own millions of dollars in land, cattle and equipment and still feel like you're constantly looking for cash. That's the reality for a lot of farm and ranch families. We can be incredibly wealthy on paper, yet still depend on banks, government programs, retirement accounts and outside institutions to access the money we need. In Chapter 4 of Building Your Warehouse of Wealth, Nelson Nash uses the analogy of the boiled frog to show how slowly we can become accustomed to giving up control of our money. Retirement plans, tax incentives, pensions and government programs can all feel like security—but how often do we stop and ask: Who actually controls the money? Nelson wrote from an American perspective, but the principle applies just as much to Canadian farm and ranch families. We have CPP, OAS, RRSPs, employer pensions and other registered programs. The question isn't whether these programs are good or bad. The question is how much of our financial future we want dependent on systems where someone else makes the rules. Because there's a big difference between owning wealth and controlling capital. If most of your wealth is tied up in land, cattle, equipment and accounts you don't want—or can't afford—to liquidate, what happens when you need money? Do you have access to capital you control, or do you have to ask someone else for it? That's why building your own Warehouse of Wealth matters. This episode isn't about abandoning everything you've been taught about retirement or saving. It's about looking at your farm or ranch differently, understanding where your wealth actually lives, and intentionally building a pool of capital that gives you more control, liquidity and options throughout your lifetime. Because the goal shouldn't be to spend a lifetime building a valuable operation only to discover that accessing your own wealth still requires someone else's permission. Make the bank Plan B. Start with the book — Farming Without the Bank (Canadian edition) — available in paperback and audio at ranchyourway.com. Watch full episodes of the Win-EH Podcast at youtube.com/@WinEHpodcast. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Ep. 120 - Living While Giving: Funding Your Kids' Future with Michael DeLon
What if the hardest part of building wealth for your children isn't the money—it's making sure they're ready for it?In this episode, Winnie sits down with Michael DeLon, founder of Paperback Expert, husband, father of four, and grandfather, who has used The Infinite Banking Concept® to build a family pool of money with his wife, Jill, since 2013. Michael shares how they started from mutual funds and a market correction that shook their confidence, how they've used permanent life insurance policies to help their adult children with real-life needs like an air conditioner repair, and how they're funding their kids' retirement now instead of waiting to leave a lump-sum inheritance later. He also opens up about using policy loans to help young families break free of high-interest debt, and why he believes character and stewardship must come before ownership. This conversation is about more than policies and premiums. It's about what it actually takes to raise children who are ready to carry a family's financial legacy forward—and it offers practical, real-world guidance for Canadian families thinking through their own generational wealth plan. Michael's story shows how a family pool of money, used well, can bring a family closer instead of pulling it apart. Ready to start building your own family pool of money? Start with the book — Farming Without the Bank (Canadian edition) — available in paperback and audio at ranchyourway.com. Watch full episodes of the Win-EH Podcast at youtube.com/@WinEHpodcast. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 119 - The Narrow Gate: Changing the Way You Think About Money - Warehouse of Wealth Ch. 3
In Chapter 3 of Building Your Warehouse of Wealth, Nelson Nash takes a hard look at the spending habits of the average family—and this chapter hit home. Money has to flow. We earn it, spend it, save it, make payments with it and use it to buy everything from groceries and vehicles to homes, land, cattle and equipment. The money is going to move whether we practice Infinite Banking or not. The bigger question is: where is it flowing, and how much control do we have over that flow? In this episode, Lacy breaks down Nelson's reminder that we finance everything we buy. We either pay interest to someone else for the use of their money, or give up what our own money could have earned when we pay cash. But Nelson takes the conversation one step further. Our need for financing throughout our lifetime is far greater than our need for death benefit. So why not build a financial system that can address both? Lacy connects Nelson's examples of automobiles, housing, living expenses, principal and interest back to participating whole life insurance—and why we have to change the way we think if we want to see its possibilities. She also shares why you don't have to own the biggest farm, run the largest ranch, or already be wealthy to start. Your banking system is built for your needs, and it's built incrementally over time. And sometimes choosing a different financial path means being willing to take the narrow road. As Nelson closes the chapter: the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The next best time is today. If you want greater control of the money already flowing through your life, farm, ranch or business, this episode is for you. Start with the book — Farming Without the Bank (Canadian edition) — available in paperback and audio at ranchyourway.com. Watch full episodes of the Win-EH Podcast at youtube.com/@WinEHpodcast. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Ep. 118 - The Infinite Banking Concept®: Are You Staying Engaged?
What does it actually mean to live The Infinite Banking Concept® instead of simply owning a participating whole life insurance policy? In this episode, Winnie and Lacy explore why staying engaged is such an important part of practicing IBC as a financial lifestyle. Using real client conversations, they unpack what can happen when families lose sight of why they started, begin looking at a premium as just another expense, focus too heavily on rate of return, or make financial decisions based on one piece of the picture instead of considering their entire family financial system. One client conversation started with a simple question: Should we pay the annual premium, or let the policy's cash value sustain it? The family had money available, but they were also managing seasonal ranch cash flow and waiting for fall calf sales. Holding onto cash felt safer. That opened the door to a much bigger conversation about scarcity thinking, liquidity, policy loans, dividends, premiums, and financial control. Instead of looking only at the money leaving the bank account, Winnie and Lacy explain why families need to understand what their policy has already accomplished, what liquidity is available to them, and how today's decision fits into the reason they implemented IBC in the first place. They also tackle a common question: What is the rate of return? Rather than allowing one calculation to define whether a policy is "working," this episode looks at the bigger picture. What did the dividend actually do inside the policy? How has the death benefit changed? What access to capital does the family have? How is the family financing purchases? And is the system helping them maintain greater control over how money moves through their lives? This is where Cash Smart for Life thinking becomes practical. Financial education isn't only about knowing more. It's about building habits and systems that help you think proactively before a financial decision becomes urgent. Winnie uses the simple analogy of brushing your teeth. You don't wake up every morning and reinvent the process. You have a system. In the same way, families shouldn't have to rediscover their IBC strategy every time a premium comes due. Regular policy reviews, strategy sessions, understanding policy activity, and remembering your original "why" can help make managing your family pool of money part of normal financial life. The conversation also moves beyond today's cash flow and into generational planning. Winnie and Lacy share the story of clients receiving a family windfall and considering how those dollars could be incorporated into the financial system they were already building. What made the conversation emotional wasn't simply receiving money. It was recognizing that decisions made by parents and grandparents could continue affecting children and future generations. For Canadian farm and ranch families, that connects directly to financial resilience, succession planning, business continuity, liquidity, and legacy. Ranch Your Way is about helping families think beyond today's transaction and consider how financial decisions can strengthen the family and operation over time. And staying engaged isn't something that happens only at an annual policy review. Every time you finance a purchase, you make a decision about where the money will come from and who will control that financing relationship. Cash? A credit card? An outside lender? Or, when appropriate, your own IBC system? Those individual decisions may seem small, but repeated over a lifetime, they shape how money flows through your family. In this episode, you'll learn: Why owning a policy is different from living The Infinite Banking Concept® What staying engaged with an IBC strategy can look like in everyday life Why annual policy reviews matter How premiums, dividends, cash value, and policy loans fit into the bigger financial picture Why seasonal cash flow can create scarcity thinking for farm and ranch families Why focusing only on rate of return can narrow your financial thinking How liquidity can give families more options when financial decisions arise Why your method of financing purchases matters over a lifetime How simple systems can make managing policies easier and more intentional Why remembering your "why" matters when premiums come due How a family pool of money can support long-term family financial systems How windfalls and inheritances can become part of a broader generational conversation Why financial education needs to be passed to children along with financial resources How IBC can connect with financial resilience, succession planning, and long-term stewardship for Canadian farm and ranch families Whether you're already practicing IBC and have become a little disengaged, or you're just beginning to explore a different way of thinking about money, this episode is a reminder that The Infinite Banking Concept® is not something you simply own. It's something you learn to live. The goal is to understand your money, stay connected to your financial system, and make increasingly intentional decisions about liquidity, financing, control, and the future you're building for your family. Start with the book. That's where the shift begins.
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Ep. 117 - Think Long-Term: Building Your Warehouse of Wealth with Dividend-Paying Whole Life Insurance
What if the biggest shift you need to make with your money isn't about finding a better investment—but learning to think longer term? In Episode 117 of the Win-EH Podcast, Lacy Rowan continues her walk through R. Nelson Nash's Building Your Warehouse of Wealth, diving into Chapter 2 and one of Nelson's most important ideas: "How you think is everything. Most people don't think long range." In a world built around instant gratification, Nelson challenges us to look at dividend-paying whole life insurance differently—not based solely on what a policy does today, but on what it can become over 10, 20, 30 years and beyond. Lacy explores Nelson's own 52-year-old whole life policy, his realization that he could use dividends to purchase paid-up additional insurance, and how building a readily accessible pool of capital changed the opportunities available to him. She also discusses the capitalization phase of Infinite Banking and why patience in the early years can create greater financial flexibility and self-sufficiency later. The conversation goes beyond life insurance. It's about building a financial system that puts you in greater control of your capital—so when an opportunity to buy land, equipment, cattle, or invest in your business appears, you have options. As Nash explained, having money safe and available doesn't take away your options; it gives you more of them. Lacy also shares one of the most thought-provoking questions from the chapter: What might have happened if Nelson had directed more of his available income toward building his whole life system instead of sending part of it elsewhere? His reflection illustrates why understanding the possibilities of a properly designed policy—and giving it time to capitalize—matters. If you already have an Infinite Banking policy but have lost some of your excitement or direction, this episode is a reminder to reconnect with why you started. And if you're brand new to the concept, it offers another look at what it means to build your own "warehouse of wealth." It takes time. It takes patience. But the goal is bigger than a life insurance policy. It's about building a financial foundation, creating generational wealth, keeping more control within your family, and making the bank Plan B. Start with the book — Farming Without the Bank (Canadian edition) — available in paperback and audio at ranchyourway.com. Watch full episodes of the Win-EH Podcast at youtube.com/@WinEHpodcast. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 116 - Insurable Interest 101: The Farm Family Insurance Gap Nobody Talks About
Insurable interest means you would suffer a real financial or personal loss if a specific person passed away — it's the requirement every life insurance company uses to decide who you're allowed to insure. In this episode of the Win-EH Podcast, Ranch Your Way hosts Winnie Lau and Lacy Rowan break down exactly who qualifies as an insurable interest — parents, spouses, business partners, children, and even silent investors — and why so many Canadian farm, ranch, and business-owning families wait too long to act on it. Lacy shares her own story of becoming temporarily uninsurable after a cancer diagnosis, and why "we'll get to it eventually" is one of the most expensive sentences a family can say. Winnie connects the topic to The Infinite Banking Concept®, showing how permanent, dividend-paying whole life insurance isn't just protection for a future death — it's a living tool for building a family pool of money you can access for decades to come. This episode is for Canadian ranch and farm families navigating succession, business partners with informal financial ties, spouses evaluating what a lost income would mean, and stay-at-home parents whose unpaid work carries real financial value. You'll learn how to identify who your insurable interests are, why the window to qualify for coverage can close without warning, and how The Infinite Banking Concept® turns that protection into financial resilience you can use today. Start with the book — Farming Without the Bank (Canadian edition) — available in paperback and audio at ranchyourway.com. Watch full episodes of the Win-EH Podcast at youtube.com/@WinEHpodcast. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Ep. 115 - Choose Your Hard: Why Every Ranch Family Needs a Will Before It's Too Late
Winnie Lau recently attended a celebration of life that didn't happen until more than six months after the person passed away — because there was no will, no business succession plan, and no written record of a family investment. In this episode of the Win-EH Podcast, Winnie and Lacy Rowan unpack what that delay revealed: a family left choosing between grief and frustration, simply because one hard conversation never happened while there was still time. This episode is for Canadian farm and ranch families, business owners, and parents who've been putting off estate planning, succession planning, or a conversation about life insurance. Winnie and Lacy talk through the real difference between a living will and a last will and testament, why private investments between family members need to be put in writing, and why the phrase "I'll be dead, what do I care?" is one of the most costly mindsets a person can carry into their financial planning. You'll also hear how proactive families use tools like The Infinite Banking Concept® and a family pool of money to build financial resilience — creating liquidity and options for the people they leave behind, instead of confusion and conflict. Whether you're managing a ranch succession plan, a family business, or simply want to protect your spouse and children, this conversation is a practical, compassionate push to finally start the process. Topics covered: wills and estate planning, business succession, family investment agreements, life insurance for families and business owners, The Infinite Banking Concept®, generational wealth planning, financial resilience for Canadian farm and ranch families. Start with the book — Farming Without the Bank (Canadian edition) — available in paperback and audio at ranchyourway.com. Watch full episodes of the Win-EH Podcast at youtube.com/@WinEHpodcast. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 114 - What Is Financing? The Money Lesson Most Canadians Were Never Taught
What does financing actually mean? If you asked most people, they'd probably say financing means borrowing money from a bank to buy a vehicle, home, or equipment. While that's certainly one form of financing, it's only part of the picture. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy explore one of the foundational principles of The Infinite Banking Concept®, created by Nelson Nash: every dollar you spend is a financing decision. Whether you pay cash, use a debit card, borrow through a loan, use a credit card, lease equipment, or draw from savings, you're making a financing choice that has both immediate and long-term consequences. This conversation began with a simple question from a child: "What is financing?" That innocent question opened the door to one of the most important financial conversations families can have. Sometimes the simplest questions reveal the biggest gaps in our financial education. Throughout the episode, Winnie and Lacy explain why changing the way we think about financing is often more important than simply learning how to invest. They discuss how financial stewardship begins long before wealth building and why understanding where your money lives can be just as important as how much money you earn. Drawing from Becoming Your Own Banker, they explain the importance of the capitalization phase—the process of intentionally building your pool of money before you need it. Rather than reacting when a vehicle breaks down or unexpected expenses arise, families can prepare in advance by developing a long-term financing system that creates greater liquidity, flexibility, and financial resilience. The discussion also explores practical examples from everyday life, including purchasing vehicles, maintaining equipment, caring for family assets, teaching children financial responsibility, and preparing for future opportunities instead of making decisions under financial pressure. For Canadian farm families, ranch families, business owners, homeschooling parents, and anyone interested in generational planning, this episode reinforces why financial systems matter more than financial products. It highlights how Cash Smart for Life encourages proactive financial thinking and why Ranch Your Way focuses on helping families strengthen financial resilience through education and stewardship. Listeners will also gain a better understanding of why properly structured dividend-paying participating whole life insurance is used within The Infinite Banking Concept® as a long-term financing tool. Winnie and Lacy explain that IBC is not simply about life insurance—it's about creating a family banking system that improves financial control, builds liquidity, supports succession planning, and helps families keep more of the money they earn over time. In this episode you'll learn: What financing really means. Why every dollar you spend is a financing decision. How financial stewardship creates stronger financial foundations. What the capitalization phase is and why it matters. Why preparation creates more options than reacting to financial emergencies. How liquidity provides greater financial flexibility. Why building a family pool of money supports long-term financial resilience. How The Infinite Banking Concept® differs from traditional borrowing. Why Canadian families, farmers, ranchers, and business owners can benefit from thinking differently about financing. If you've ever wondered whether there is a better way to finance the things you're already buying, this episode offers a practical framework for rethinking money through the principles of The Infinite Banking Concept®. Visit Ranch Your Way to learn more about Cash Smart for Life, The Infinite Banking Concept®, family financial systems, financial stewardship, liquidity, succession planning, and building a lasting family pool of money that can serve future generations. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan – Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 113 - Building a Family Financial System That Lasts for Generations
Why does financial stress persist even when you're working hard?Whether you're navigating farm succession, raising financially capable kids, building a business, or simply wanting more confidence in your family's finances — this episode offers a different perspective. Every family already has a financial system. The question is whether it was designed intentionally. In this episode, you'll learn why every financial system produces exactly the results it was built for — and why that's actually good news, because systems can be redesigned. What we cover: - What a financial system is and why it matters - Why hard work alone doesn't guarantee financial security - How systems shape cash flow, liquidity, and long-term decisions - How The Infinite Banking System® goes beyond buying another product - Why building a family pool of money creates lasting flexibility - How Ranch Your Way supports financial resilience and generational planning for Canadian farm families - Small, intentional changes today can create clarity, stronger resilience, and real opportunities for the next generation. Start with the book — that's where the shift begins. 📖 Farming Without the Bank – Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) 🌐 www.ranchyourway.com Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 112 - From Reactive to Proactive Farm Finances
Financial resilience doesn't begin during a crisis—it begins long before one arrives. In this episode, Winnie explores why financial challenges such as bankruptcies, consumer proposals, forced farm sales, family financial conflict, and retiring without enough income rarely happen overnight. Using practical examples from Canadian farming and ranching, she explains why producers who proactively maintain equipment, protect livestock, insure crops, and prepare for uncertainty should apply the same mindset to their family's financial system. You'll learn the five foundations of financial resilience: awareness, protection, cash flow, legacy, and stewardship. Winnie also explains why liquidity matters, why family financial conversations should happen before they're urgent, and how succession planning is a long-term process rather than a retirement event. The episode introduces The Infinite Banking Concept® as a strategy for building a family pool of money that can improve financial control, create access to liquidity, and support generational planning. It also highlights how Cash Smart for Life helps families think proactively about money and how Ranch Your Way supports Canadian farm and ranch families in building stronger financial systems for the future. Whether you're a Canadian farmer, rancher, business owner, homeschooling family, or parent teaching financial literacy, this conversation will help you move from reacting to financial challenges toward building resilience, flexibility, and long-term stewardship. Topics covered: Financial resilience for Canadian farm and ranch families The five foundations of proactive financial planning Liquidity and cash flow management Succession planning and generational wealth Family financial communication Insurance and risk management The Infinite Banking Concept® Building a family pool of money Long-term financial stewardship Start with the book. That's where the shift begins. Then visit our website to learn how Ranch Your Way and Cash Smart for Life can help your family build a stronger financial future—one intentional decision at a time. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com Chapters: 00:00 Why Money Crises Happen 00:35 Proactive Farming Mindset 01:41 BSE Lesson on Preparedness 03:13 Control What You Can 04:59 Why We Avoid Money 06:44 Five Resilience Foundations 06:58 Awareness and Protection 08:28 Cash Flow and Liquidity 09:04 Legacy and Stewardship 10:25 Small Steps to Start 11:21 Financial Maintenance Mindset 12:10 Choices for Next Generation 12:33 Book and Next Steps
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Ep. 111 - Where Do You Store Your Wealth? Why Every Farm Family Needs a Financial Warehouse
Most farmers and ranchers spend a lifetime building wealth—but very few stop to ask one simple question: Where are you storing it? Inspired by R. Nelson Nash's Warehouse of Wealth, Lacy explores the difference between earning wealth, investing wealth, and warehousing wealth. Using practical farming analogies, she explains why the place you store your money matters just as much as how you earn it. In this episode, you'll discover why liquidity is essential for farm succession, how our current banking system has conditioned the way we think about money, and why a properly structured participating whole life insurance policy can serve as more than just life insurance—it can become a financial warehouse that protects capital, provides access to cash during your lifetime, and creates tax-free liquidity for the next generation. If your goal is to pass on more than just land—to pass on opportunity, options, and a financial system that helps keep the farm in the family—this episode is for you. In this episode you'll learn: • Why every dollar you own already has a "warehouse" • The five characteristics of a good financial warehouse • Why liquidity is critical for family farms • How Infinite Banking changes the way we think about money • Why participating whole life insurance can help create generational wealth • How to help the next generation inherit opportunity instead of another loan Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 110 - Record High Cattle Prices Won't Build Wealth On Their Own - Here's What Will
Cattle prices are at record highs right now, and that's genuinely exciting. But high prices don't automatically build wealth. In this episode, Winnie Lau and Lacy Rowan dig into why, and what producers can do about it before the window closes. They cover Parkinson's Law, the quiet force that causes expenses to rise every time income does, and why the instinct to wipe out debt the moment a windfall arrives isn't always the most strategic move. From calving season urgency to Winnie's own experience riding Alberta's real estate boom and bust, this episode connects the psychology of money to the real decisions producers face right now. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 109 - Don't Sell Out: Protecting Your Farm, Your Community, and the Next Generation
This week Winnie and Lacy are talking about something that stopped them cold, a recent report that 40 Canadian farm families reached out to a land investor this spring asking him to buy their land. Not because they wanted to sell. Because the bank wasn't waiting any longer, and planting season was coming. That is not just a financial story. That is a community story. When independent farms sell out to distant investors, what gets lost is not only the land. It's the community hall, the neighbours who show up at a grass fire, the affordable acres that the next generation of young farmers was hoping to buy one day. What takes generations to build can be gone in one difficult spring. Winnie and Lacy break down the principles behind The Infinite Banking Concept® and how a specially designed life insurance contract creates the liquidity and cash flow control to keep you from ever becoming a motivated seller. Whether you're farming, ranching, or just trying to get ahead financially, this episode is for you. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 108 - From $250,000 in Interest to Financial Control: A Rancher's Story
What happens when a ranch family decides they're tired of paying the bank more than they're paying themselves? In this episode, Chad Ross shares the realities of building a ranching operation through some of the toughest challenges Canadian agriculture has faced—from BSE and drought to rising debt costs and uncertainty in the marketplace. He opens up about paying more than $250,000 in annual interest, the lessons learned through hardship, and why financial resilience became a priority for his family. We discuss: The impact BSE had on their operation and long-term decision-making Why efficiency and strategic planning matter more than ever How Chad discovered the Infinite Banking Concept through the Working Cows Podcast Building a six-figure pool of accessible capital The mindset shift of paying yourself first Creating more freedom, flexibility, and peace of mind Preparing the next generation for long-term success Whether you're a rancher, farmer, or business owner looking for more control over your finances, this conversation offers practical insights on thinking differently, planning ahead, and building resilience for whatever comes next. Start with the book, that's where control begins in your operation. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 107 - Traceability, Trust, & the Future of Canadian Ranching
What happens when traceability intersects with producer trust, privacy concerns, and the future of family ranching? In this episode, we sit down with Chad Ross, Saskatchewan cattle producer and Chair of the Saskatchewan Cattle Association, to explore one of the most talked-about topics in Canadian agriculture today: traceability. Together, we discuss: Why traceability matters to Canada's beef industry The role it plays in protecting export markets and consumer confidence The concerns many producers have around privacy, compliance, and implementation How trust between producers, industry organizations, and regulators impacts progress Why producer involvement is critical in shaping the future of Canadian agriculture What opportunities may exist to improve traceability while supporting the long-term sustainability of ranching operations At its core, this conversation is about more than regulations. It's about stewardship, preserving family operations for future generations, and finding solutions that strengthen both the industry and the people who make it possible. Whether you're a cattle producer, rancher, or someone who cares about the future of Canadian agriculture, this episode offers valuable insight into a conversation that affects us all. Start with the book, that's where control begins in your operation. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here Go here for more updates on this situation: https://www.canada.ca/en/food-inspection-agency/news/2026/06/update-from-the-canadian-food-inspection-agency-on-a-revised-regulatory-approach-to-the-livestock-traceability-regulations.html Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 106 - Bank First or Family First? Building More Financial Control With The Infinite Banking Concept®
Why do people work hard to pay back bank debt but hesitate and get confused when it comes to paying themselves back? In this episode, we unpack one of the biggest mindset shifts around The Infinite Banking Concept®. We discuss financial control, family systems, cash flow, and why so many Canadian families, farm families, ranch families, and business owners feel stuck relying on traditional lenders. You'll hear practical examples, simple analogies, and a powerful reminder that building long-term financial resilience often starts by changing how money flows through your life. Start with the book. That's where the shift begins. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 105 - The Bigger Conversation Behind Monette Farms - Part 1
The headlines surrounding Monette Farms have sparked big conversations across agriculture. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy unpack the deeper lessons behind the story, not to criticize, but to learn. From rapid expansion and debt pressure to the role of life insurance as collateral, this conversation opens the door to questions many farm families have quietly wrestled with for years. This episode explores what happens when growth outpaces control, why lenders always protect their position first, and how The Infinite Banking Concept® can help families create a more stable financial foundation over time. Winnie and Lacy also discuss the emotional weight carried by family farms under pressure and why thoughtful growth matters more than fast growth. If you've ever wondered whether "bigger" automatically means "better," this conversation will challenge you to think differently about debt, ownership, and long-term stewardship. Start with the book. That's where the shift begins. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 103 - Canada Strong Fund vs. Your Family Bank: Who Really Has Control?
There's a lot of noise in the marketplace right now especially around government-led wealth-building ideas like the Canada Strong Fund. It's being called everything from "nation building" to "risky," but beneath all the headlines is a deeper question: who should really be in control of your financial future? In this episode, we unpack the concept through a practical lens and bring it back to what actually matters for Canadian families, farmers, and business owners. Because while governments debate strategies, your day-to-day decisions still shape your long-term outcome. We explore how The Infinite Banking Concept® offers a completely different path one rooted in ownership, control, and building your own family pool of money. Not someday. Starting now. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 104 - Using Your Policies Instead of Letting Them Sit Idle
A lot of people start implementing The Infinite Banking Concept® with excitement and clarity. But after the first year or two, something interesting happens. The policies are set up… and then they just sit there. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy walk through real client conversations about what happens next. They talk about using policy cash values to reduce pressure, regain control, and interrupt the old "money comes in and disappears" cycle many families feel trapped in. You'll hear practical examples from farm families, mindset shifts around debt and control, and why your policies were never meant to feel like "just another expense." They were designed to serve your life, your family, and your future. Start with the book. That's where the shift begins. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 102 - Who Gets Paid First? The Truth About Financial Control in Agriculture
Farmers and ranchers are speaking up and the message is clear: they don't want to be controlled. But what if control isn't just about regulations? What if it's showing up quietly inside our financial decisions? In this episode, we unpack a real client conversation that reveals the hidden trade-offs behind "0% interest" money. It sounds like a win but who really owns the outcome when things don't go as planned? And more importantly, who gets paid first? This is a grounded, real-life look at how control, cash flow, and clarity shape your freedom not just in your operation, but in your life. Because true independence isn't about avoiding lenders; it's about building a system where you stay in charge. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 101 - Before the Stock Market: The Strategy We Stopped Using
In last week's episode, we talked about how money worked before income tax and before the stock market became the default strategy. But that leaves a bigger question… Where did people actually put their money? In this episode, we break down how whole life insurance was used long before modern financial systems took over—and why it played such a foundational role in building and protecting wealth. This isn't about going backwards. It's about understanding what worked, what changed, and what we may have lost along the way. Because the challenges people are facing today—cash flow pressure, debt cycles, and lack of control—aren't new. They're the result of moving away from systems that were designed to solve them. If you've ever wondered why managing money feels harder today than it should, this episode will give you a different lens to look through. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 100 - The History of Money, Farming, and Why the Infinite Banking Concept Has Been Around Longer Than You Think
Why haven't you heard about this before? That's the wrong question. In this 100th episode, Winnie and Lacy unpack the financial history that most farmers and ranchers were never taught and why the system you've been using to finance your operation was never designed with your interests at the center. Here's what we cover: The financial timeline from 1847 to 1971 that changes how you see money Why farm financing hasn't evolved the way farming has The difference between controlling the dollar and controlling your terms What the Infinite Banking Concept actually is and why the tool used to exercise it has been around longer than income tax, the stock market, and the Bank of Canada If you've ever wondered why carrying debt feels like the norm in agriculture, this episode is for you. Hosted by Winnie Lau & Lacy Rowan - Ranch Your Way Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank -- Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio Subscribe so you never miss an episode! Order the Paperback + Audio Here
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Ep. 99 - If You Don't See the Problem with Banks, This Isn't for You
Most people ask, "How does The Infinite Banking Concept work?" But that's the wrong question. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy break down the real reason why Infinite Banking doesn't resonate with everyone and why that's actually a good thing. If you don't see a problem with how you're currently using banks, building your own system of financing won't feel necessary. And no numbers, strategy, or rationale will change that. This conversation dives into: Why awareness of the problem must come before any solution The reality of the capitalization phase (and why patience matters) What most people misunderstand about death benefit and legacy How mindset and behavior, not math can determine success with money Why "trying" to simplify without understanding leads to poor decisions You'll also hear real-life examples of how families are using the same dollar to build capital, create flexibility, and support future generations. This episode is about helping you to think about things differently: Are you ready to think about money differently or not? Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 98 - Uninterrupted Compound Growth vs Broken Market Momentum
When markets drop, most people focus on the visible loss. But the bigger cost is often the momentum you lose along the way. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy unpack what market pressure really means for families, ranchers, and business owners trying to build long-term financial confidence. They discuss why The Infinite Banking Concept offers a different foundation, one built on control, liquidity, and uninterrupted compound growth rather than hope and timing. They also explore how financial discipline at home matters just as much as philosophy, especially when preparing Children for real life, involving them in money conversations, and building a family system that can weather both good times and hard times. If this episode challenged the way you think about volatility, control, and long-term financial planning, start with the book. That is still the best first step. The paperback and audio version are both available at ranchyourway.com.
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Ep. 97 - Stop Trying to Use Investment Accounts for Infinite Banking
Should you use investments to create your own banking system, or is a whole life policy the better tool? In this episode, Lacy walks through the key differences between market-based strategies and participating whole life policies. You'll learn how liquidity, certainty, and long-term control impact your ability to finance your life, and why trying to replicate infinite banking with investments often falls short. This is a must-listen if you're deciding where to store and access your capital. Get started by grabbing your copy of Farming Without the Bank at www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 96 - Whole Life Insurance Deposit Options: Breaking Down the Load Fee
Many whole life insurance policies allow policyholders to make additional contributions through a deposit option to purchase Paid-Up Additions and accelerate cash value growth. However, these contributions typically come with a load fee, which often raises questions for policyholders. In this episode, Lacy breaks down what the deposit option load fee actually is, why it exists, and what it covers. She explains how the fee is used to cover provincial premium taxes, policy administration costs, and advisor compensation. You'll also learn how deposit option contributions are processed inside a participating whole life policy, how they purchase Paid-Up Additions, and why understanding the structure of these fees is important when designing policies used for implementing The Infinite Banking Concept®. We also discuss how, within a properly structured policy, assuming dividends continue to be paid, the policyholder can eventually access every dollar contributed to the policy. If you've ever wondered why your deposit option payment isn't credited dollar-for-dollar into Paid-Up Additions, this episode will clarify exactly how the load fee works and why it's part of the policy design. As Lacy likes to say, "Don't let the nickel hide the dime!" Start your journey at ranchyourway.com and grab your book bundle to see if this philosophy resonates with you. And as always — keep learning with us. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 95 - Wall Street, Apple, and the Lie About Money: Why Ken Shapero Chose to go with The Infinite Banking Concept
Clarity Over Noise: Infinite Banking and Long-Range Financial Sovereignty with Ken Shapero In this conversation, Winnie sits down with Ken Shapero to explore his journey from early Apple innovation and Wall Street finance to a life devoted to The Infinite Banking Concept. Together, they unpack what financial sovereignty actually means, why most households have been programmed to think about money a certain way, and how clarity, not hype becomes the foundation for long-term stability. Ken shares: • Why he walked away from Wall Street • The difference between Austrian economics and central planning in plain language • How to stay grounded when markets, crypto, and headlines create noise • Why permanent life insurance, when structured properly, becomes a warehouse for wealth • And the powerful mindset shift that changes how families think about legacy This episode is about more than money. It's about ownership, discipline, courage, and choosing clarity over noise. If you've ever questioned the system, or felt there must be a steadier way to build wealth this conversation will challenge and strengthen you.
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Ep. 94 - Extra Mortgage Payments or Policy Deposits? A Rancher's Guide to Smarter Debt Control
Paying down debt feels responsible. It feels disciplined. But is sending extra principal to the bank the most strategic move, especially if you practice the Infinite Banking Concept®? In Episode 94, Winnie and Lacy unpack one of the most common questions we receive: Should extra cash go straight toward your mortgage (or vehicle loan) or should the extra cash go to your whole life policy first? In this conversation, we explore: • Mortgage prepayments vs policy deposits options • Liquidity vs locked equity • Uninterrupted compound growth • Policy loans and repayment mindset • Who really owns the debt This episode challenges short-term thinking and invites you to "rethink your thinking" around control, convenience, and long-range wealth building. Because you're going to service debt either way. The real question is: Who controls it? Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 93 - Infinite Banking Isn't Failing — Your Mindset Is
Most families start Infinite Banking. Very few truly live it. Fresh off a private annual gathering of Authorized Infinite Banking Practitioners from across North America, Winnie and Lacy share what separates those who simply open policies from those who build generational systems. In this episode, we unpack: • Why mindset matters more than mechanics • What policy loans are really teaching you • How financial noise disrupts long-range thinking • The risk of failing to prepare the next generation • Why stewardship requires discipline, not hype For ranchers, business owners, and families serious about generational strength, this conversation goes beyond life insurance. It's about clarity. It's about implementation. It's about building something that lasts. If you've questioned your strategy or felt uncertainty around your policies, this episode will help you recalibrate and think long range. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 92 - Perpetual Borrowing? The Mindset Shift Behind Infinite Banking
When it comes to the Infinite Banking Concept, understanding the mechanics is only half the battle — the real transformation happens in your mindset. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy tackle two powerful conversations: First, they answer common questions from a business owner exploring corporately owned dividend-paying whole life policies: Should you run all your income through your policy? How much cash should you keep on hand? What does it actually look like to borrow and repay policy loans month after month? How do you balance operating expenses with building long-term wealth? Then, they unpack a more sobering reality — what happens when someone says, "We tried IBC," after six years… and walks away. Is the "perpetual borrowing and repaying" really a flaw — or is it simply the misunderstood function of controlling your own banking system? This episode dives into: The difference between bank debt and policy loans Why repaying yourself isn't the same as paying a bank The power of uninterrupted compounding The often-forgotten value of permanent death benefit Why protecting your financial philosophy matters more than ever Infinite Banking isn't a product — it's a practice. It requires intentional cash flow management, community, coaching, and a willingness to think differently about money. All financial strategies require discipline. The question is: which "hard" are you choosing? If you're new to IBC, curious about implementation, or wrestling with doubts, this episode is for you. Start your journey at ranchyourway.com and grab your book bundle to see if this philosophy resonates with you. And as always — keep learning with us. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 91 - Holding Companies, Capital Dividend Accounts & Life Insurance: What Canadian Business Owners Need to Know
In Episode 91, Winnie Lau is joined by Chartered Professional Accountant Nigel Kennett to break down three commonly misunderstood tools in Canadian business planning: holding companies, the Capital Dividend Account (CDA), and corporate-owned life insurance. This episode is a plain-language conversation for business owners, farmers, and ranchers who want to understand when these tools actually make sense, how they work together, and why involving the right professionals early can prevent costly mistakes later. If you're thinking about asset protection, tax efficiency, or long-term succession planning, this episode will help you ask better questions before making big decisions. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 90 - How Holding Companies, Trusts & Insurance Work Together in Long-Term Planning
Once business owners start thinking long-term — beyond income and toward legacy — structure matters. In this episode, Winnie is joined by CPA Nigel Kennett to explore how: Holding companies help separate risk from opportunity Trusts can protect family wealth across generations Corporate-owned life insurance fits into broader planning (and when it doesn't) The Lifetime Capital Gains Exemption connects directly to clean corporate structure Poor administration can undo otherwise good planning Accountants and advisors must work together — not in silos The conversation also addresses a common challenge: what to do when your accountant isn't familiar with dividend-paying whole life insurance or policy loans — and how to bridge that gap using education and collaboration (including resources like Becoming Your Own Banker). This episode is for business owners who are ready to move from earning money to protecting and positioning it wise Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 89 - Why Farms Keep Paying the Bank—and How to Stop
In this episode of the Ranch Your Way Show, Winnie and Lacy slow things down and do something simple—but powerful. They read and unpack the summary of Farming Without the Bank. Why? Because most farm families don't need another sales pitch. They need clarity. This conversation is for: The spouse who's "not sure yet" The operator who knows something feels off—but can't quite name it The family paying tens (or hundreds) of thousands in interest and wondering if there's another way You'll hear real examples of: Keeping control of your money instead of qualifying for it Why "saving for the future" doesn't have to mean locking money away How whole life insurance fits into farm cash flow (without the fluff) Why legacy planning isn't optional—whether you have kids, nephews, nieces, or no heirs at all They also explain why this concept takes time to grasp—and why rereading the book (and using the case studies) matters. If you're new here, this episode is a strong place to start. If you already own the book, this is your nudge to pick it back up. Grab the book (or the audio bundle) at ranchyourway.com Then come talk to us—after you've read it.
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Ep. 87 - When Banks Tighten: How Farm Families Can Stay in Control Without Panicking
In a recent episode of Growing the Future, host Dan Aberhart interviewed Canada's largest farmland owner, Robert Andjelic about what he sees coming for agriculture — tighter lending, economic pressure, and a potential capital squeeze that could impact farm families across the country. After listening, we felt two things at the same time: The concerns are real. Fear is not a strategy. In this episode, we highlight the key issues that were raised — and then share our own three-point plan for how farm and ranch families can prepare in a calm, practical way. This conversation is about: Building your own financial buffer Managing cash flow intentionally Making proactive decisions instead of panic-driven ones There is a way forward — and it starts with clarity and control. Watch the original Growing the Future episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-8Kix9MolA Start Here: www.ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank - Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Watch our Podcast on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeart Radio https://empoweredlifefinancial.thrivecart.com/preorder-fwtb-cdn-version-book-audio/
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Ep. 86 - Life Insurance vs Infinite Banking: Why Age Misses the Point
Most people think life insurance is just a death benefit. That misunderstanding is costing families, business owners, and ranchers liquidity, flexibility, and long-term control. In this episode, Winnie Lau and Lacy unpack two real conversations that revealed a deeper issue: People confuse insurance thinking with Infinite Banking thinking. You'll hear: Why a dividend-paying whole life policy is treated as an asset by banks How cash value is viewed differently than real estate or land Why age is the wrong lens when evaluating Infinite Banking The difference between a life insurance conversation and an IBC conversation How liquidity, control, and stewardship matter more than returns alone Why legacy planning isn't about "spoiling" the next generation This episode challenges the idea that Infinite Banking is only about death benefit needs or life stage. It's about how you finance your life—at any age. If you already "know" IBC, this episode may reveal what you're still missing. Start here: ranchyourway.com Book Bundle: Farming Without the Bank – Canadian Edition + Becoming Your Own Banker (paperback + audio) Available on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and iHeartRadio.
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Ep. 85 - More Than a Money System: Why This Changed Our Family
This episode is being reshared for one simple reason—it reminds us what actually matters. In a candid, unscripted conversation, Lacy and Reid talk about why they chose a different financial path, how it changed daily decisions on the ranch, and what it gave them during one of the hardest seasons of their lives. This is not just a discussion about Infinite Banking. It's about: Creating breathing room when life doesn't go as planned Raising children inside real financial conversations Making decisions from clarity instead of fear As the year comes to a close and families spend more time together, this episode invites you to slow down, listen in, and consider what kind of financial foundation brings peace—not pressure—into your home. Grab Farming Without the Bank (paperback + audiobook) at www.ranchyourway.com Watch on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio
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Ep. 84 - Conditioned to Need the Bank? A Winter Reset for Ranchers
Winter on the ranch looks different. The work is still there — feeding cattle, checking fences — but the pace shifts. And that shift creates something rare: space to think. In this Christmas-day episode of The Rancher Way Show, Winnie reflects on why this quiet season is one of the most powerful times to reassess how money is flowing through your operation and your life. This conversation covers: Why Infinite Banking is a mindset first, not a product How conditioned thinking keeps ranchers tied to banks The real cost of "operating on cash" and lost opportunity Why even long-time IBC practitioners still need coaching One simple question to ask yourself that can change your financial direction If you've ever felt like the calf check disappears in a day… If you've wondered whether there's a better way than starting over every year… If you want more control, flexibility, and autonomy in unpredictable times… This episode is for you. 🎧 Grab Farming Without the Bank (paperback + audiobook) at ranchyourway.com 📺 Watch on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 83 - Thinking Outside the Herd: What We Learned from Doug Ferguson About Cash Flow, Confidence & Ranch Freedom
In this episode, Winnie and Lacy dive into the powerful overlap between cattle marketing and the Infinite Banking Concept®, inspired by their recent experience at Doug Ferguson's Master Marketers in the Making event in Alberta. Whether you run cattle, grow crops, or are building a multi-generational operation, this conversation will help you rethink how you earn, keep, and flow money through your ranch year. We talk about: What ranchers can learn from Doug Ferguson's outside-the-box marketing How one extra paycheck a year can change your stress level Why cattle income timing matters for family life & mental health Where Infinite Banking supports marketing decisions (and confidence) Real stories from ranchers who implemented Doug's strategies Why the next generation watches how you manage money And why reading Farming Without the Bank before a meeting matters If you've ever thought, "There has to be a better way to manage money on the ranch," this episode will give you clarity, inspiration, and practical next steps. Resources Mentioned: Doug Ferguson's Marketing Schools: https://www.mrcattlemaster.com/marketing-schools Farming Without the Bank – Canadian Edition: ranchyourway.com 🎧 Listen on Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or YouTube. 📘 Grab Farming Without the Bank – Canadian Edition at ranchyourway.com. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 82 - How Farmers Become Their Own Banker: Our Interview on The Impact Farming Show
Hey There, We've got something special for you this week. We had the pleasure of being guests on Tracy Brunet's podcast, The Impact Farming Show earlier this year to share our passion for helping Canadian farmers and ranchers implement The Infinite Banking Concept. If you've ever felt like the bank has more control over your operation than you do, this conversation is for you. We shared our journey, the financial challenges that pushed us toward this strategy, and how we've teamed up with our friend and original author of Farming Without the Bank, Mary Jo Irmen to serve Canadian prducers. You'll hear real stories, simple explanations, and practical steps you can take to begin the journey of becoming your own banker. In This Episode, We'll Cover: What Infinite Banking really is, in everyday language. Why it's especially powerful for farmers, ranchers and multi-generation operations. How families can start and build their system over time. Why IBC can be a game-changer for succession planning and teaching the next generation about money. The biggest transformations we've seen when producers take control of their finances. Infinite Banking isn't only about money - it's about control, freedom, and securing the legacy of your family's farm or ranch. We're excited to share this conversation with you. Thanks for leaning in with us, Winnie & Lacy The Canadian Edition audiobook of Farming Without the Bank is now officially live. Where to find us: YouTube • Apple Podcasts • Spotify • iHeartRadio Website: www.ranchyourway.com Book reference: Farm Without the Bank (Canadian version) for those who want to dig deeper. Click the link below to order your copy. https://empoweredlifefinancial.thrivecart.com/preorder-fwtb-cdn-version-book-audio/
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Ep. 81 - Money Truths Ranchers Need to Hear: Lies, Fear & Financial Freedom
Are the stories you tell yourself about money helping you… or quietly hurting you? In this honest and eye-opening episode, Winnie and Lacy dig into the three most common lies people believe about money and how those lies can derail even the best financial intentions — especially for families, ranchers, and anyone trying to build long-term financial freedom. Together they unpack: Why "I'll save when I make more money" is a trap Why term insurance should really be called death insurance Why stress, fear, and impatience lead people to terminate policies too early H ow emotional decisions sabotage long-term control What Nelson Nash taught about filtering truth from marketplace noise And why insurability is one of the most overlooked financial blessings Winnie also shares real client stories (anonymized) about impatience, policy cancellations, health changes, and the cost of listening to financial noise instead of your long-term plan. If you've ever doubted your path, felt overwhelmed by conflicting financial advice, or wondered whether you're doing "enough," this episode will bring clarity, confidence, and calm. 🎧 PLUS: The Ranch Your Way audiobook is now available! Grab the bundle at ranchyourway.com. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 80 - Full Premium vs. Required Premium: The Hard Truth About Your IBC Results
If your IBC policy isn't performing the way you expected. This episode tells you exactly why. Fresh off an intimate private session with Farming Without the Bank author Mary Jo Irmen, Winnie and Lacy break down one transformational challenge she gave a client: Stop paying only the required premium. Start paying the full premium. In this episode, we explore: • The psychology behind minimal vs. maximum premium • Parkinson's Law and optimizing policy performance • The real cost of avoiding your finances • Why full premiums build a stronger financial tailwind • How to plan contributions around your cash flow cycles • Why comparing bank loan rates to policy loan rates misses the point • The mindset shift every IBC family needs Whether you're ranching, farming, or simply wanting more control over your financial life, this conversation will help you think and achieve success in implementing the IBC process in your life. The Canadian Edition audiobook of Farming Without the Bank is now officially live. Get the hardcopy + audiobook bundle at ranchyourway.com. https://empoweredlifefinancial.thrivecart.com/preorder-fwtb-cdn-version-book-audio/ Listen on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio. Share this episode with someone who needs encouragement on their IBC journey.
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Ep. 79 - Starting the Change: Food, Finances, and Building a Stronger Future for Agriculture
and Lacy sit down on the first snowy day of 2025 to talk about something stirring up emotion across the ag community: cloned meat hitting the Canadian marketplace. They share their own reactions, the concerns they're hearing from families, and the very real question—what can we actually do about it? This heartfelt conversation moves from fear and frustration to empowerment, highlighting the role of financial self-reliance, small daily choices, and supporting local producers. The girls also discuss raising the next generation, overcoming comparison, and why Infinite Banking is helping families stay rooted on their land. A grounded, hopeful episode for anyone who wants to protect their livelihood, support agriculture, and build something lasting for their family. The Canadian Edition audiobook of Farming Without the Bank is now officially live. Get the hardcopy + audiobook bundle at ranchyourway.com. https://empoweredlifefinancial.thrivecart.com/preorder-fwtb-cdn-version-book-audio/ Listen on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio. Share this episode with someone who needs encouragement on their IBC journey.
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Ep. 78 - The Biggest Mistake People Make with Life Insurance (and How It Costs Families Millions)
In this episode of Ranch Your Way, Winnie and Lacy open up about the truth behind life insurance—why it's so misunderstood, and what happens when you wait too long to apply. Lacy shares her own story of being diagnosed with cancer and how having coverage before that diagnosis gave her peace of mind and financial stability. Together, they unpack why insurability isn't guaranteed, what "qualifying" really means, and how families can use Infinite Banking to protect and grow wealth across generations. Whether you've been skeptical about insurance or just never had it clearly explained, this conversation will shift how you see financial preparedness, security, and legacy. Note: All details shared were accurate at the time of recording. Some products, rules, or processes may change over time—so always check in with us for the most current information.
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Ep. 77 - Smarten Up: Simple Ways to Strengthen Your Cybersecurity and Stop Scammers
Your money works hard—don't let hackers steal it. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy reveal how digital thieves target everyday Canadians, share practical cybersecurity habits you can start today, and explain how life insurance companies protect your information. Tune in for real examples, relatable insights, and a healthy dose of "choose your hard" motivation to take your online safety seriously. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 76 - $270/Month Could Have Saved a Ranch: Smarter Coverage 101
One ranch family thought $270/month was too expensive—until an accident changed everything. Instead of income protection, overhead coverage, and funds for an accessible home, they faced selling half their herd, unexpected medical bills, and years of financial strain. In this episode, we unpack how small, affordable policies could have replaced lost income, covered business expenses, and kept their operation afloat. Learn how to protect your ranch without breaking your cash flow. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 75 - From Imagination to Action: Review of Part 1 – Becoming Your Own Banker
In this Ranch Your Way episode, Winnie and Lacy review Page 27 of Becoming Your Own Banker—the summary of Part 1 of Nelson Nash's classic. Together they revisit the key principles that built the Infinite Banking Concept: the importance of imagination, avoiding the "grocery store trap," understanding the "money problem," and practicing capitalization with patience and discipline. They connect these lessons to real ranch life—harvest paydays, dream boards, and family cash-flow decisions—showing how Infinite Banking isn't an investment product but a system of thinking. If you've ever wondered how to turn seasonal income into lasting legacy, this review will bring Nelson's words to life in a way that speaks directly to the agricultural community. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 74 - Make the Bank Plan B: Real Talk with Mary Jo Irmen
A straight-shooting conversation about money, control, and how to stop letting the bank call the shots. n this episode, Winnie & Lacy sit down with Mary Jo Irmen, creator of Farming Without the Bank and author of Life Without the Bank, for a down-to-earth conversation about money, control, and legacy. Together, they talk about why farmers and ranchers need to make the bank Plan B, not Plan A, and how the Infinite Banking Concept gives families a way to finance their operations differently. Mary Jo also shares how the idea for the Canadian edition of Farming Without the Bank came to life, and how her partnership with Winnie and Lacy is helping producers north of the border take back control of their cash flow, their land, and their future. They cover: Why so many farm families stay stuck in the same financial cycle and how to break it What real financial control looks like in both good and bad markets How to protect your operation and build a lasting legacy for the next generation f you are ready to think differently about how you finance your operation, this conversation is a must-listen. Get your copy of Farming Without the Bank – Canadian Edition at RanchYourWay.com Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@RanchYourWay Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay
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Ep. 73 - Liquidity, Control, and Growth
Summer check-ins turn into a candid talk on focus, boundaries, and better money decisions. Winnie and Lacy share why ditching constant notifications (goodbye, smartwatch in meetings and phone in the bedroom) boosts clarity—then connect that clarity to Infinite Banking basics from Becoming Your Own Banker (Page 26): You finance everything you buy—cash, borrowing, leasing, or the IBC "fourth way." Control vs. convenience: store cash at the bank or in your own entity (policy) and keep liquidity while your money keeps working. Deposit Options (PUAs): making dollars do more than one job. Dividends ≠ stock dividends: what they are and why taxation is different. How insurers pay claims: actuaries, reserves, and why policies are built for generations. Generational wealth: more death benefit without "extra" new dollars. If you're a rancher or small-business family who loves paying cash, this episode shows how to keep the security you value while adding growth, control, and options—without becoming a slave to lenders (hello, Parkinson's Law). Ditch distractions, regain focus, and learn Page 26 of IBC: cash vs convenience, Deposit Options, and how to "finance everything" with more control and generational impact. Learn more at RancherWay.com Grab your copy of Farming Without the Bank – Canadian Edition Get Becoming Your Own Banker by Nelson Nash
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Ep. 72 - Prepare in Good Times: Ranchers, High Beef Prices & Cash Flow
Ranchers across North America are celebrating record-high cattle prices—but as history shows, good times don't last forever. In this episode, Winnie and Lacy dive into the realities of today's beef market and how ranching families can capitalize on opportunities while preparing for inevitable downturns. You'll hear: Why record cattle prices can feel like a double-edged sword How to pivot and protect your operation when markets swing The importance of cash flow control and Infinite Banking in ranching Real rancher stories about beef prices, lifestyle choices, and financial resilience Whether you're selling calves, buying yearlings, or just trying to make sense of market volatility, this conversation will give you tools and perspective to weather both the highs and the lows. Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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Ep. 71 - From Uncertainty to Clarity: How Infinite Banking Transformed our Family's Finances with Billie Heggie
In this episode, Lacy sits down with her longtime friend and now client, Billie Heggie to share her inspiring journey as a wife, mom, and entrepreneur in the network marketing world. She opens up about how her family discovered Infinite Banking, the peace and freedom they now feel after implementing it, and the impact it's had on both their finances and their family life. We also dive into their financial mindset today, showing how they're passing down confidence, independence, and a solid foundation of money values to their kids. If you've ever wondered how to build wealth while raising a family and running a business, you'll love this conversation filled with real-life stories, practical wisdom, and encouragement for the road ahead. Listen as two friends have a candid conversation and get inspired to take charge of your family's financial future! Billie Heggie's contact info: https://www.instagram.com/billieheggie https://facebook.com/billie.long.313 Follow Ranch Your Way Instagram: http://instagram.com/ranch_your_way YouTube: http://youtube.com/@ranchyourway Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RanchYourWay ► Learn more: https://www.ranchyourway.com ► Get the books: https://www.ranchyourway.com
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The WinEH! Podcast is all about WINNING in Canada EH. Specifically in the world of how we work with Money, think about Money and how we can use it to ELEVATE our life experience. The Financial Philosophy that we live by is based in the use of the Infinite Banking Concept. We believe that every Canadian deserves to know there is a better way to go about the way we think and manage our money.This podcast has 3 DISTINCT SHOWS. We are sharing ONE show at a time.Each show aims to heal the financial divide created by life experience, history, government and the banks. Alright, come lean in and check out our first show, Ranch Your Way.
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Winnie Lau
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