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Winning Slowly
by Chris Krycho and Stephen Carradini
There are plenty of podcasts that will tell you how the latest tech gadget or “innovation” will affect the tech landscape tomorrow, but there aren’t that many concerned with the potential impact of that tech in a decade—much less a century. In a culture obsessed with now, how can we make choices with a view for tomorrow, next year, and beyond? 25–35-minute episodes released the first and third Wednesdays of the month.
Episodes
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Farewell… at least for now!
Show Notes You heard that right, everyone. Who knows, maybe we’ll be back someday, though! (Long-time listeners: stick around for the last bit of this episode. Trust us.) Music “Winning Slowly Theme” by Chris Krycho. Something special Respond We (still!) love to hear your thoughts. Hit us up via...
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8.23: Things Get Weird When You Add New Technology
Reviewing what we learned in 2020—and ranking what we read! So many books! Also: MARIMBAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Show Notes The books we covered this season: Phaedrus, Plato: 8.02, 8.03 The Postmodern Condition, Lyotard: 8.04, 8.05 The Age of Spiritual Machines, Ray Kurzweil: 8.06, 8.07 Jurassic Park…
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8.22: Mr. Penumbra’s 24-Hour Bookstore
Neal Stephenson at double speed and with a smile on his face. Mr. Penumbra’s 24-Hour Bookstore, Robin Sloan Show Notes Robin Sloan Sourdough Ruby George Saunders Cory Doctorow Credits Music “Getaway Car”, by Ezekiel Songs originally written by Make Sure. Used by permission, please don’t use…
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8.21: Twitter and Tear Gas—Examined
The things we learned from Zeynep Tüfekçi’s examination of social media and sociopolitical change. (We liked this book a lot.) Twitter and Tear Gas, Zeynep Tüfekçi Show Notes Zeynep Tüfekçi her recently-launched newsletter Insight 52-Cent Party Cultural Revolution Tianenmen Square Twitter and the...
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8.20: Twitter and Tear Gas—Explained
Walking through Zeynep Tüfekçi’s masterful explanation of the relationship between social media and protest movements. Twitter and Tear Gas, Zeynep Tüfekçi Show Notes Things we mentioned on the show, in the order we mentioned them: Zeynep Tüfekçi her recently-launched newsletter Insight modern...
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8.19: Contact—Examined
Thinking about Carl Sagan's views on belief, and how they relate to religion and science Contact, Carl Sagan Show Notes After reading Carl Sagan’s 1985 novel Contact and watching the 1995 movie of the same name, we discuss a major epistemological question: what are the acceptable grounds for...
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8.18: Contact—Explained
Another book from the ’80s, but hey: at least this one is fiction! Contact, Carl Sagan Show Notes We read Carl Sagan’s 1985 novel Contact and watched the 1995 movie of the same name. In this episode, our overview of the book: its plot and its basic interests. Things we mentioned on the show, in…
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8.17: Evolution as a Religion—Examined
We argue with Mary Midgley on how she did what she did, more than what she did. Evolution as a Religion, Mary Midgley Show Notes Descartes’ belief that people can’t be rational without God; see paragraph six Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene David Hume Immanuel Kant John Rawls, the specific claim...
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8.16: Evolution as a Religion—Explained
What had Mary Midgley so incredibly angry in the 1980s, and what did she do about it? Evolution as a Religion, Mary Midgley Show Notes Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene “Superman” and Friedrich Nietzsche David Hume Immanuel Kant The other book Chris is reading on politics &c. currently: Politics...
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8.15: The Real World of Technology—Examined
We point out several concerns that we have with the arguments Dr. Franklin makes in her lectures-turned-book: the ineffectiveness of her holistic and prescriptive technologies frame, her deeply cynical view on policy, and other thorny places that her arguments lead (like the Soviet Union). The…
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8.14: The Real World of Technology—Explained
The Real World of Technology, Ursula Franklin Show Notes Cold War peace movement Peace movements in Canada Second-wave feminism (to which Dr. Franklin’s feminism approximately belongs to) Third-wave feminism (to which Dr. Franklin’s feminism approximately does not belong to): Oklahoma…
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8.13: Dark Matters: On the Surveillance of Blackness—Examined
Discussing Simone Browne’s epistemology, ideas, and arguments: what persuaded us, and what didn’t? Dark Matters: On the Surveillance of Blackness—Explained, Simone Browne Show Notes Critical theory Critical race theory Black feminism Intersectionality White as default in AI, potentially due to...
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8.12: Dark Matters: On the Surveillance of Blackness—Explained
Digging into Simone Browne’s application of critical race theory to surveillance studies. Dark Matters: On the Surveillance of Blackness—Explained, Simone Browne Show Notes The two main subjects we mentioned on the show as relevant were critical theory (and specifically critical race theory) and...
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8.11: The Printing Press as an Agent of Change—Analogs to the Internet
The printing press and the internet are often compared. How similar in impact are they really? The Printing Press as an Agent of Change, Elizabeth Eisenstein Show Notes Eisenstein’s outline: dissemination standardization reorganization data collection preservation amplification reinforcement...
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8.10: The Printing Press as an Agent of Change—Explained
Digging into Elizabeth Eisenstein’s magisterial and seminal work on how print changed culture. The Printing Press as an Agent of Change, Elizabeth Eisenstein Show Notes We almost entirely ended up talking about the contents of this book specifically! And we weren’t joking about how dense it is: A...
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8.09: Jurassic Park—Examined
Don’t go into science for the money: you will get killed by dinosaurs. Jurassic Park, Michael Crichton (and the movie!) Show Notes We put dinosaurs mostly in the background and talk about what Crichton really wanted to discuss: the science/industrial complex, the limits of science to interpret or...
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8.08: Jurassic Park—Explained
What the well-known novel and movie have to say about science, ethics, epistemology, and hubris. Jurassic Park, Michael Crichton (and the movie!) Show Notes Things mentioned on the show Media OS—see TVTropes’ “Extreme Graphical Representation” for many examples. The Expanse TV series overview…
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8.07: The Age of Spiritual Machines—Examined
Digging into Kurzweil’s deficient view of culture and human nature—from sex and family to epistemology and human dignity. The Age of Spiritual Machines, Ray Kurzweil Show Notes Things mentioned on the show Stephen’s music blog 7.06 and 7.07: The ERLC AI Statement Parts 1 and 2 Mass Effect and…
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8.06: The Age of Spiritual Machines—Explained
Reading Ray Kurzweil’s prognostications about the future—and coming to terms with his ruthless optimism. The Age of Spiritual Machines, Ray Kurzweil Show Notes Things mentioned on the show The Age of Intelligent Machines Moore’s Law Universal constants, and especially the speed of light You Are…
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8.05: The Postmodern Condition—Examined
The Postmodern Condition, Jean–François Lyotard Lyotard’s postmodernism, the politics of power, and aesthetics: what do we keep and what do we reject? Show Notes Errata Chris, because he was slightly sick, forgot that although we were recording in February, the episode was coming out in March.…
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8.04: The Postmodern Condition—Explained
Note: Hey listeners, sorry for the weirdness—I (Chris) accidentally published this pointing to the audio for last week’s episode. All fixed now! Jean-François Lyotard on postmodernity, science, and kitschy art. The Postmodern Condition, Jean–François Lyotard Show Notes We do our best to explain...
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8.03: Phaedrus Examined
Should we even keep reading this book—with its criticisms of books? Show Notes We dig into our disagreements with and appreciations of Plato’s Phaedrus! Other things mentioned on the show: C. S. Lewis’ Introduction to Athanasius’ On the Incarnation Marshall McLuhan Ellul and Mumford 2.02:...
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8.02: Phaedrus Explained
What did Plato actually argue two and a half millennia ago? Show Notes We really only did one thing in this episode: talked about Plato’s Phaedrus! What did Plato say? How did he say it? What does it mean? There are, though, lots of interpretations. Relevant to our next episode: people have cited...
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8.01: A Book Club!
An overview of Season 8: a book (and movie!) club devoted to the canon (as we define it!) for technology and ethics. Show Notes The authors and topics we discussed in detail on the show: Phaedrus – linked here are a wide array of translations Elizabeth Eisenstein, The Printing Press as an Agent…
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Jake Meador: In Search of the Common Good
Hey listeners, we had a miscommunication leading to the episode originally being published with the wrong intro music—sorry to any of you who got that earlier version! This new version has the right intro music (and one edit fix Chris caught listening back through the episode as a bonus). Sorry...
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7.13: A Healthy Tension
Chris and Stephen talk about an interesting article… and then pivot to the nature of this podcast and some of their healthy differences—about the show, and in approach to these questions in general. Show notes Isaac Asimov’s Caves of Steel Alan Jacobs’ Pinboard “The Web Falls Apart” Chris’...
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7.12: An Experiment in Moral Imagination, Pt. 3
Sustainable long-distance transportation, or really great virtual reality? Fight! Show notes Which would make for healthy localist cities in 80 years: sustainable long-distance transportation, or really great virtual reality? Chris says sustainable long-distance transporation. Stephen says VR....
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7.11: An Experiment in Moral Imagination, Pt. 2
“Go Do Earth Things”, or, How 80 Years of Non-Technocratic Thinking Might Improve Phoenix, AZ Show notes What will the world be like 80 years from now if we avoid technocratic thinking? We discuss the far future of ecologies, urban planning, and … open-source code economy. Listen all the way...
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7.10: An Experiment In Moral Imagination, Pt. 1
Show Notes Press pause on the dystopias. Set aside interventions. Dream a little of a non-technocratic world. We’ve mostly been in the weeds of thinking about specific interventions around technologism this season. Today, we press pause and just spend some time imagining—dare we say, dreaming—of...
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7.09: Frictioneers
Can adding a little friction back to user interfaces save us? Show notes We talk about the currently-trendy concept of (design) friction and how it is necessary but not sufficient for right action on the Internet. Links Facebook admits that it intentionally defrauded children by making it easy to...
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7.08: Literally Metaphorically Listen for Earthquakes
Show Notes We pause from issue-focused episodes and try to pull together the threads of the season so far to take a step toward our ethic of technology. Stephen imitating Lewis Mumford saying “I said that!!!” Links Donald Trump cannot block critical Twitter users, court rules The Lindy effect –...
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7.07: The ERLC AI Statement, Part 2
Data privacy, just war, the sovereignty of God… there’s a lot here! Show Notes We dig into the rest of the ERLC’s statement on AI—everything from security and privacy to just war and the sovereignty of God. Links Artificial Intelligence: An Evangelical Statement of Principles In Search of the...
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7.06: The ERLC AI Statement, Part 1
People reflecting proactively on ethics? Sold! …mostly. Mostly! Show Notes The ERLC published a statement on artificial intelligence and ethics. We give them an ‘A’ but have some substantive disagreements. Links Artificial Intelligence: An Evangelical Statement of Principles Mass Effect - Mass...
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7.05: Chattanooga, China, and Subsidiarity
Localism is great! …but it is no panacea. Show Notes We look at everything from American racial history to the differences between Chattanooga’s and China’s “local” internets. Stephen gesticulating wildly! Links The New Sewer Socialists, Evan Malmgren, Logic An alternate ending to the tragedy of...
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7.04: Not Better Enough
Rejecting solutionism, the problems of the humane, and wise change. Show Notes We dig into the challenge of taking a non-solutionist approach and rejecting a technocratic view of the world… while not rejecting “interventions” and making real progress along the way. Corrections Stephen…
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7.03: Ari Wallach
An interview with the founder of Longpath about his vision for the future and trans-generational ethics. Show Notes We chat with Ari Wallach of Longpath about his vision for the future and the importance of trans-generational ethics. (There’s obviously a lot we both find valuable and disagree…
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7.02: People Who Don’t Want To Do Things
Any positive vision of the future must contend with people who like the current way of doing things. We discuss personal and communal liturgies as potential ways to address the issue. Show Notes John Deere discussion in 6.13 $200M lobbying from oil companies 43 Democrats not even voting on a…
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7.01: Do We Really Need to Keep the Internet Around?
Season 7’s charter—by way of a rollicking argument about Alan Jacobs’ The Year of Our Lord 1943 and Tolkien’s idea of eucatastrophe. Show Notes Major figures we discuss in this episode: Alan Jacobs’ recent work The Year of Our Lord 1943: Christian Humanism in an Age of Crisi Jacques Ellul C. S....
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[Bonus] 7.01 Outtake: Twitter is Strongbad
7.01 will be in your ears tomorrow. For today: how Stephen copes with Twitter.
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Jessica C. Blank
Documentary theater and the power of storytelling for social change. Show Notes An interview with writer, director, and actor Jessica C. Blank, focusing on her approach to using writing and acting as a means of accomplishing social change. We talk about her work on The Exonerated and How To Be a...
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6.13: A Four-in-One Special
Wrapping up Season 6 by covering the topics we intended to cover before Chris’ experience with burnout broke everything. Show Notes On burnout: Chris’ New Rustacean episode Chris’ blog posts Shannon Vallor and Technology and the Virtues “Why American Farmers Are Hacking Their Tractors With...
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6.12: Beer Rules
Regulation as neither bogeyman nor panacea, but a way of protecting out the right spaces for genuine competition to emerge. Show Notes Back in September, we recorded this episode live, both of us in person, at Pikes Peak Brewing Company in Monument, Colorado—as Stephen was out visiting Chris and...
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6.11: Very Thoughtful Ethics Dogs
Reflecting on the limits of AI, and the limits we should put on AI. Show Notes AI is coming and it’s going to take all of our jobs! …or, not, depending on who you ask and how optimistic they are or aren’t about the limits of AI as we understand it today. Regardless: how should we think about...
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100!
Our 100th episode spectacular – with a look at where we have come from and where we are going. Show Notes It’s been four and a half years and 100 episodes of Winning Slowly! We pause to take a bit to reflect on what we’ve done, what we’re about, and where we hope to go from here. We also reflect…
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6.10: The Future of Something Like Work
The end of work, post-work, universal basic income—and a more hopeful frame than these. Show Notes Economists, guilt-ridden Silicon Valley inventors and investors, and others have been looking at the future of work. One possible conclusion? That it’s going away. We don’t think that’s quite...
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6.09: Granular Levels of Tomato Tracking
Blockchain, the necessity of regulation, and the regulatory challenges posed by truly global technologies. Show Notes Blockchain and the associated currencies and techniques derived from it have been in the news a lot for the last few years. And it’s an incredibly interesting technology, which...
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6.08: People Do Reject Technologies, Part 2
Nuclear weapons, nuclear waste, and how to argue well with intractable disagreements. Show Notes Sometimes, the rejection of a technology is far less clear cut than in last week’s discussion of Google Glass. With nuclear weapons (and nuclear waste), for example, decades of rejection by many…
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6.07: People Do Reject Technologies, Part 1
Google Glass, snap judgments, and how we form ourselves to make those snap judgments well. Show Notes Google Glass failed miserably. Why? Because people sometimes do reject technologies. But why? People’s snap judgments are far from infallible, of course, but in this case they seem to have been...
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6.06: A Kind of Blindness
Smart cities, “big data”, and the meaninglessness of mere information. Show Notes We attempt to take down the idea that more data is the solution to our problems. Without wisdom, and without an ethical frame, numbers mean nothing. Links The metadata of experience, the experience of metadata –…
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6.05: Crispr
What are the limits on gene editing? Should we be doing it at all? If so, under what circumstances? Who determines where it's okay to use Crispr? Show Notes What are the limits on gene editing? Should we be doing it at all? If so, under what circumstances? Who determines where it’s okay to use...
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There are plenty of podcasts that will tell you how the latest tech gadget or “innovation” will affect the tech landscape tomorrow, but there aren’t that many concerned with the potential impact of that tech in a decade—much less a century. In a culture obsessed with now, how can we make choices with a view for tomorrow, next year, and beyond? 25–35-minute episodes released the first and third Wednesdays of the month.
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