EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 52 MIN
Ep 9: Jesus at Your 9-5
from SAY THAT AGAIN with Pastor Jason · host SayThatAgain
In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with longtime friend, mentor, and veteran podcaster Mike Linch - Lead Pastor of Northstar Church and host of Linch with a Leader - for a transparent conversation about what it actually takes to go the distance in faith, leadership, and community impact. In a culture obsessed with quick wins, viral clips, and instant platforms, Jason and Mike unpack the counter-cultural power of longevity and resilient redundancy. They look at the changing cultural landscape from 2020 to 2026, dealing with the painful realities of leadership - like navigating hyper-sensitive cultural optics and learning when to simply "let the disgruntled grunt" while keeping a "screen door" policy of open-hearted love. Finally, Mike shares an incredible, perspective-shifting story from the baseball diamond that reminds us of our true identity: wherever you are placed on the map, you are a "minister in disguise." Whether you are a parent at the dinner table, a corporate leader, or a coach on the field, this episode will challenge you to stop overestimating social media clout and start leaning into the profound influence of everyday discipleship. In this episode, we cover: The Anchor of Longevity: Why staying in one place long-term kills ego, builds deep trust, and keeps you grounded. Church FOR the Community: Re-positioning the local church to become the city's first call for help by serving with no strings attached. Resilient Redundancy: Why doing the same core things over and over with hunger and curiosity is the secret "magic" behind momentum. Letting the Disgruntled Grunt: Embracing the emotional toll of leadership, handling exits with grace, and maintaining an open "screen door" church culture. Ministers in Disguise: Why your uniform, job title, or zip code is just a cover for your real assignment: representing Jesus exactly where you are. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: Shifting from a weekend message to a mid-week mission. 00:45 – Welcoming Mike Lynch: A 30-year full-circle friendship. 02:30 – The In-Law Connection: Honoring the legacy of Eddie and Lou Dell Bishop. 06:40 – The Anchor of Longevity: Staying grounded when people know the "real you" first. 12:06 – Church FOR the Community: Becoming the city's first call for help. 16:18 – Irresistible Influence: Building bridges to schools, government, and local businesses. 18:25 – The Aftermath of Crisis: Showing up consistently before tragedy strikes. 21:40 – Who is My Neighbor? Recognizing the needs of the people in your natural life path. 24:15 – Moving at the Speed of People: Why Jesus’ greatest ministry moments were actually interruptions. 26:17 – 10 Years of Lynch with a Leader: Core takeaways from a decade of interviewing iconic Christian leaders. 28:45 – Sweeping the Streets: True greatness found in the mundane. 31:30 – Intentional Curiosity: Why leaders must never assume they have a corner on the market (and Andy Stanley’s driver). 34:19 – Resilient Redundancy: How doing the same core things over and over builds the magic of momentum. 35:33 – The Battle and the Build: Managing burnout, emotional weariness, and personal rhythms in ministry. 38:49 – Letting the Disgruntled Grunt: Navigating the emotional toll of people leaving and why we need "screen door" relationships. 43:31 – The Post-2020 Shift: Leading through a landscape hyper-sensitive to optics, assumptions, and misread moments. 45:31 – Digital Boundaries: Practical strategies for protecting your peace on X, LinkedIn, and Instagram. 47:57 – Ministers in Disguise: The inspiring home plate prayer story and the unmatched value of everyday influence over social media clips. Episode Resources https://mikelinch.com/ Bethlehem Church Website Call to Actions (CTAs) Identify Your Assignment: You are a minister in disguise. Whether you're an educator, a business owner, a stay-at-home parent, or a nurse, how can you consciously represent Jesus in your "uniform" this week? Share your thoughts in the comments below! Embrace the Routine: If the "resilient redundancy" of your everyday life is starting to feel heavy or boring, take Mike's advice: build in a brief rhythm to pause, reset, and ask God to renew your curiosity for the mundane spaces. Tune In & Expand Your Leadership: Want to catch more of Mike's interviews with world-class leaders? Subscribe to Lynch with a Leader on your favorite podcast platform. Subscribe & Share: If this conversation gave you a healthy dose of courage to face your daily battles, hit subscribe and share it with a teammate, coworker, or friend who needs the reminder that they aren't where they are by accident. #SayThatAgainPodcast #BethlehemChurch #JasonBritt #MikeLynch #NorthstarChurch #LynchWithALeader #EverydayDisciple #ResilientRedundancy #MinisterInDisguise #SpeedOfLove #MarketplaceKingdom #ChristianLeadership #Longevity #CommunityFirst
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