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“is basically go from attack mode to defend mode, right? Go…” — The Knowledge Project at 22:54

“is basically go from attack mode to defend mode, right? Go from being a pirate to being the Navy, go from being the rebel to being the empire. And so, yeah, it is a thing that happens. I think, you know, you could probably just fairly say companies like that are caught in some sort of intermediate state, you know…”

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