“And so, but, you know, you do have to, you have to be…” — The Knowledge Project at 45:10
“And so, but, you know, you do have to, you have to be willing to like sit in the room and describe what it is. And you have to be willing to like listen to people, you know, crap on it, right? Without getting dissuaded. And then, you know, there is this thing, this conflict thing, right? Which is, it's a big deal for…”
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