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“Well, they say, hi, Matt. Nice to hear you on the podcast.…” — Y Combinator Startup Podcast at 42:39

“Well, they say, hi, Matt. Nice to hear you on the podcast. What's your best pitch to high performing startups in the Bay Area to adopt more of a human centered design? Says something that the government has been moving towards surprisingly well, but that fast moving startups have neglected. Yeah. You know, there's…”

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