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“At first, no one trusts one another. Everyone's nervous.…” — The Knowledge Project at 35:01

“At first, no one trusts one another. Everyone's nervous. Everyone's kind of puffing their chest and presenting the best. But you do this year after year after year to the point where I'm still in a forum with one of these people. No, two of these people, 14, 15 years later, one of them is the executor of my will…”

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