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“anguish better than I could have. So very moving. He made…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:32:36

“anguish better than I could have. So very moving. He made an opera on da Vinci. And whenever he does an opera like that, he has a symposium where he invites people with different views on the topics to speak. And I had the honor of being invited and used the opportunity to talk about da Vinci's sketches. And there…”

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