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“Otherwise, you fall prey to wishful thinking and terror.…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:52:06

“Otherwise, you fall prey to wishful thinking and terror. So they challenge their own perspective. They also deliberately think of perspectives of other people. So if you're a liberal, how would a conservative see this? If you're Zelensky, how would Putin see it? And how would the chancellor of Germany see it? How…”

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