“or four and a half. And therefore, before we were…” — The Knowledge Project at 38:48
“or four and a half. And therefore, before we were borrowing at five and in COVID, we were borrowing at four and a half. So when people say, oh, geez, you've got all this financing in COVID. Yes, maybe some people did. And some people got very low rates because rates were zero and they might have borrowed at two at an…”
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