“Yeah, exactly. And that's the carrot on the end of the…” — TV Podcast Industries at 37:44
“Yeah, exactly. And that's the carrot on the end of the stick for this storyline, which is, you're right, it's not insurmountable. The odds are not forever not in their favor. Exactly. These Hunger Games are winnable, if you will. And I think that's why you can go, you can start ticking down, like, well, hold on, was…”
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