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“But our real business was business to business, as we call…” — The Knowledge Project at 24:46

“But our real business was business to business, as we call it, selling to jam manufacturers in Europe and pie manufacturers. And if you're a pie manufacturer, you're going to go where the apples are because 50% of the pies are apple. Or if you're in the jam business, you have to have a whole variety. So Oxford didn't…”

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