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“We played around. I shouldn't say played around. We had…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:17:49

“We played around. I shouldn't say played around. We had maybe a significant portfolio in some people's mind, but not one that you would see written up in the New York Times or something. But when I decided, when these interest rates were so cheap that you didn't have to be a genius to borrow at 1% or 2% and invest in…”

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