“how they should or shouldn't be. Well, they've been a big…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:20:04
“how they should or shouldn't be. Well, they've been a big, big factor. I mean, I was paying 18 or 20% at one stage for loans. Didn't have as many loans, thank God. And then when they're cheap, cheap, you know, these rates.”
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