“And we were hit with these weird, colorful, esoteric…” — Y Combinator Startup Podcast at 1:20
“And we were hit with these weird, colorful, esoteric symbols, which were Objective-C, which is still around, but maybe a little bit less popular than it was then for good reasons. And stared at this kind of impenetrable wall of Objective-C. And my brother promptly ejected, didn't move on with programming. He now is…”
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