“to third learning and transformation. By 98, 99, I was…” — The Knowledge Project at 30:06
“to third learning and transformation. By 98, 99, I was feeling some real frustration. I was running a big public company. We had four divisions at that time, Obon Penn, Obon Penn Manufacturing, Obon Penn International, and this fourth division, St. Louis Red Company that we had renamed Panera.”
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