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“angry at me. The guy said, Obon Penn or angry at me. Why…” — The Knowledge Project at 30:38

“angry at me. The guy said, Obon Penn or angry at me. Why am I trying to take their capital and shift it to this growth thing Panera? The guy's in international didn't want to call home. The guy's in manufacturing. We're trying to figure out why they were in a retail company. Anyway,”

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