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“an investment vehicle because it's not firm. It's called…” — The Knowledge Project at 41:39

“an investment vehicle because it's not firm. It's called Act 3. You can figure out where that comes from Oban Panera and now Act 3 holdings. Within eight weeks of leaving Panera had gotten involved in our first real deal, which was Kava. He had been an investor in Kava when it was two restaurants,”

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