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“Yeah. And he's grown immensely. He started as my student…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:39:37

“Yeah. And he's grown immensely. He started as my student and I learned from him all the time watching him do it. But we share the same value system. We share a common thought process about what's going to work. And so the way you get there is through taking the time to think about things”

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