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“This is very, very hard to, again, get people to believe…” — The Knowledge Project at 24:56

“This is very, very hard to, again, get people to believe, but it's actually risky to not try higher. A lot more people have... It's not risky in the moment, though, right, to follow best practices. It's only risky as you fast-forward time. Yeah, and I mean, we should acknowledge why. If you make...”

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