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“I have found that people reach over bureaucracy in these…” — The Knowledge Project at 40:40

“I have found that people reach over bureaucracy in these cases. I don't think that is bureaucracy. I don't know if this is a useful conversation, but maybe. I'm not a bureaucracy apologist. I do. If you ask anyone at Shopify, they will be able to cite many, many instances of me using my legitimacy to subtract…”

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