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“this might be surprising to people. I don't think that has…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:05:12

“this might be surprising to people. I don't think that has been attempted many times before. I don't think people, like, you know, there are companies you can describe as being highly innovative that are hundreds of thousands of people because I think you're going to always get sort of a residue of innovation out of…”

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