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“of international travel. So I could, I just ended up like…” — The Knowledge Project at 2:09:00

“of international travel. So I could, I just ended up like, I was really worried about an issue because it's like, that's a pretty slippery slope. It's easy to create a dependence on. But like, the other side was, if I can't do red eyes, then I can just lose one day with my family on each side of international travel.…”

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