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“In some industries, that's all you need to do, but not in…” — The Knowledge Project at 2:21:24

“In some industries, that's all you need to do, but not in mine. We are trying to work class. So I have enormous perspective and ability to, again, found legitimacy to make things happen faster. And it's not that I want to make decisions. I want to be part of important decisions because that helps me for my mental…”

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