“what the ecosystem is does it end up kind of getting…” — The Knowledge Project at 1:02:41
“what the ecosystem is does it end up kind of getting Microsoft it in the sense that you're going to still get for the time being you're still going to buy a smartphone it's not at all apparent there's going to be another device and if there is it's a long way and it might be an Apple device as well you're still going…”
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