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Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co
by Rhoda Banks
Welcome to Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., the podcast wherereal talk sparks real change.Hosted by Rhoda Banks—HR Executive, Certified Coach, Leadership Expert, and Two- Time Author—this show dives deep into the stories of women who have shattered barriers and lifted others along the way.From leadership lessons to candid conversations on resilience, sisterhood, andbreaking through the glass and concrete ceilings—especially for African Americanwomen—each episode delivers insights, inspiration, and actionable strategies for rising, leading, and lifting as you climb.Whether you're navigating the boardroom, pushing past career ceilings, or redefining success on your own terms, Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co. is your space to learn, grow, glow, and build a legacy worth remembering. Because every barrier is breakable.
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While You Wait: Navigating the Job Market Without Losing Your Confidence
In this solo episode, Rhoda discusses something she is personally navigating, staying confident and grounded while searching for the right opportunity in a competitive market.What You’ll Take AwayA healthier way to view rejectionHow to stay focused and in motionA reminder that your value does not changeConnect with RhodaFollow for more insights on leadership, career growth, and breakthrough moments.Explore coaching, speaking, and consulting through The Rhoda Experience.Closing ThoughtYou are not stuck. You are preparing.
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Small Bites. Big Breakthroughs.
Ryan McCrea, Leadership development expert and author of Quick Bites of Insight: Leadership Micro Sized Learning on Work and Leadership joins the show.What We Covered: Why traditional leadership development often requires supplemental and additive approaches The power of micro-learning in daily leadership How small insights lead to lasting behavior change Practical ways to develop yourself and your team in real time Real-life leadership scenarios and how to respondKey Takeaways: Growth happens in small, consistent moments Leaders must move from knowing to doing You can build leadership habits without adding more work Simple actions create meaningful impactGet the Book:Quick Bites of Insight: Leadership Micro Sized Learning on Work and Leadership Connect with Ryan:https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmccrea/https://www.quickbitesofinsight.com/
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Leadership with Traction: From Engineer to CHRO and the Power of Lifting Others
In this episode, Rhoda speaks with executive coach and former Chief Human Resources Officer Jada Reese about leadership growth, mentoring, and navigating executive leadership as a woman.Jada shares lessons from her career journey that began in mechanical engineering and evolved into senior HR leadership roles at major organizations including Enterprise Bank and Schnucks.After more than three decades leading people strategy, culture transformation, and executive teams, Jada now coaches senior leaders on building sustainable leadership impact.Key Topics Transitioning from technical expert to strategic leader Lessons learned serving as CHRO in complex organizations Why mentoring is a responsibility of leadership Navigating leadership as an African American woman The importance of authentic leadership and voice Helping leaders lead with clarity and purposeAbout Jada ReeseJada Reese is an executive leadership coach and former Chief Human Resources Officer with over 30 years of experience leading people strategy across complex organizations. She has led major transformations, mergers, and culture initiatives while helping organizations build stronger talent pipelines and leadership capability.Today she coaches senior leaders and emerging executives to amplify their leadership voice and lead with authenticity and courage.
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The Leadership Shadow You Don’t Know You’re Casting
In this solo episode, Rhoda challenges leaders to confront a critical but often overlooked truth. You are always casting a leadership shadow. Through personal stories, hard-earned lessons, and practical reflection, this episode explores how your behavior, energy, and emotional presence shape your team’s experience. You will walk away with a deeper awareness of your leadership impact and clear steps to lead with intention.What You’ll LearnWhat a leadership shadow is and why it matters How unexamined leadership shows up in harmful ways The difference between intention and impact How your behavior shapes team culture daily Why leadership legacy is built through experience, not titles Key TakeawaysYour leadership is felt before it is understood Culture is built by what you normalize, not what you say Unchecked stress and insecurity show up in your leadership Awareness is the first step to transformation Your leadership shadow becomes someone else’s internal voice Connect With RhodaCoaching, speaking, and leadership experiences through The Rhoda Experience Podcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co. Call to ActionIf this episode made you think differently about your leadership, share it with another leader. And ask yourself: What kind of shadow am I casting?
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From Corporate to Startup and Back Again: Reinventing Leadership at Every Stage
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with Aaron Adams, a seasoned leader in the startup technology space whose career spans corporate leadership, executive consulting, entrepreneurship, and high-growth startups.Aaron shares: The key differences between corporate and startup leadership What consulting teaches you about influence Lessons learned from navigating multiple career pivots Advice for seasoned leaders feeling restless Guidance for emerging leaders building their foundationWith a background in Industrial-Organizational Psychology and certifications in SHRM and PROSCI change management, Aaron offers practical wisdom on leading through growth, ambiguity, and reinvention.If you’re navigating career transitions, building leadership capacity, or wondering when it’s time to pivot, this episode is for you.
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Wings of Purpose: Transforming Pain Into Power
In this powerful episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with the co-founder of The Royal Butterfly, Lashonda J. to explore how pain can become purpose.From personal adversity to building a movement that empowers vulnerable youth, this conversation dives into healing, leadership, resilience, and what it means to grow wings through hardship.If you’ve ever wondered whether your story matters, this episode is for you.
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Scaling with Soul: Building a Brand, Business, and Legacy That Aligns
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with business growth strategist and author Fredah Mainah to explore what it really takes to grow a business with intention.Fredah shares insights on brand clarity, revenue optimization, and sustainable scaling, along with the critical role self-leadership plays in entrepreneurial success. From mindset to monetization, this conversation offers practical wisdom for emerging and established business owners ready to grow with alignment and purpose.About Our Guest — Fredah MainahFredah Mainah is a business growth strategist, author, and founder of SPIRAL with Fredah. She helps businesses expand their brand presence, optimize revenue, and scale sustainably through strategy grounded in self-leadership and alignment
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Leading with Intention: HR Stories from the Front Lines
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with HR leader Riunita Martin to explore what intentional leadership looks like in action.With more than 20 years in corporate operations and over a decade in HR leadership, Riunita shares lessons from partnering with executives, leading through organizational change, and supporting workforce growth across industries, including manufacturing and telecommunications.Together, they discuss influencing leaders as an HR Business Partner, balancing accountability with psychological safety, and creating people-first cultures where employees and organizations thrive.About Our Guest — Riunita MartinRiunita Martin is a Human Resources Business Partner with over a decade of HR leadership experience and more than 20 years in corporate operations. She specializes in supporting business growth, guiding leaders through change, and translating strategy into actionable people solutions.She holds a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology, is PHR-certified, a Certified Change Management Professional, and has completed advanced leadership training through Cornell University.
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From Vision to Impact: Aligning Strategy, Systems, and Leadership in Healthcare
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations, Rhoda Banks sits down with healthcare strategy and operations executive Katie Nowak to explore what it takes to turn complex healthcare goals into measurable outcomes. Katie shares insights on bridging the gap between clinicians and the business of healthcare, applying systems thinking in real- world environments, and leading transformation with both discipline and compassion. This conversation is a must-listen for leaders navigating change, complexity, andexecution in healthcare and beyond.Key Topics Covered: Bridging clinicians, business, and technology Systems thinking in healthcare strategy execution Turning vision into measurable population health outcomes Reducing friction through aligned planning and governance Leading high-performing cultures with empathy Navigating resistance and change The future of healthcare leadershipAbout the Guest:Katie Nowak is a Vice President of Commercial Accounts and a seasoned healthcare strategy and operations leader with deep expertise in population health, transformation, and execution. She is passionate about improving patient and community outcomes by aligning strategy, systems, and people.
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You Can’t Pour From Empty, But You Can Lead From Full
In this powerful episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co. Rhoda sits down with self-care advocate and leadership mentor Sharon to explore the truth that self-care isn’t a luxury, it’s leadership. They unpack the conditioning that keeps high- achieving leaders, especially women and women of color, in cycles of over- responsibility, depletion, and self-sacrifice, and how to break free.You’ll learn: Why real leadership requires self-care, not self-neglect The identity shifts women leaders must make to lead with ease How to build boundaries without apology Daily practices for emotional and energetic self-regulation The mindset shift from “carrying it all” to conscious leadership What leading from overflow actually looks likeIf you’re tired of pushing through and ready to lead from power, peace, and presence, this episode is your invitation.Connect with Sharon:Website: https://selfcareyouacademy.com/Instagram & Resources linked on her siteConnect with Rhoda:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/virtualrhodabanksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Join Fortitude & Free Circle🔗 https://www.skool.com/fortitude-free-7478Learn more about: https://selfcareyouacademy.com
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Pushed to Purpose
Sometimes life whispers, sometimes it nudges, and sometimes it pushes us out of comfort and into calling. In this solo episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda shares her personal journey of learning to trust those pushes, from leaving roles and relationships that no longer served her to writing Daughter of an Assassin.You’ll hear: What happens when we resist the nudge (burnout, stress, loss of joy). The cost of conforming to the world’s expectations. Why purpose lives beyond the four walls of work. Practical steps to move forward when fear and “what ifs” try to hold you back. Reflection: Where are you resisting the push? And what’s one small step you can take this week toward alignment with your purpose?Purpose doesn’t wait for perfect timing. It waits for your yes.
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Chosen, Not Chasing: Dr. Markay Winston’s Leadership Journey
In this deeply inspiring episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with Dr. Markay Winston, whose rise to the superintendency is less a story of pursuit and more a story of preparation, sponsorship, self-belief, and courageous acceptance.Dr. Winston’s journey spans more than three decades in K–12 education, from school psychologist to district leadership, shaped by equity-driven purpose, resilience, and powerful sponsors who saw her potential before she fully saw it herself.Rather than chasing titles, Dr. Winston focused on excellence, service, and impact, trusting that the right doors would open at the right time. When they did, she had to confront her own doubts, lean into belief, and step fully into her calling.This episode is a masterclass in: The power of sponsorship over self-promotion Leading with humility, authenticity, and courage Navigating imposter syndrome and stepping into big leadership roles Building trust through deep listening and community connectionIf you’ve ever questioned your readiness, struggled with self-doubt, or waited for permission tolead, this conversation will speak directly to your heart.Dr. Winston’s Leadership Journey Highlights 30+ years in public education Former School Psychologist Chief of Diverse Learners — Chicago Public Schools Assistant Superintendent → Deputy Superintendent → Superintendent (MCCSC) Architect of community-centered leadership strategies Champion for equity, access, and inclusive educationWhy This Episode MattersDr. Winston’s story reframes leadership success. Instead of asking, "How do I get there faster?"she teaches us to ask:"Who am I becoming while I prepare?"Her journey reminds us that: Sponsorship matters Self-belief is learned And leadership is something we step into, not chaseThis episode will resonate deeply with: Women navigating executive leadership paths Educators and administrators Professionals wrestling with imposter syndrome Anyone standing at the edge of their next breakthroughFavorite Quote from the Episode“I didn’t chase the role — I had to accept that I was ready for it.”Host Message This episode is a reminder that your breakthrough doesn’t always come from pushing harder, sometimes it comes from believing deeper.— Rhoda Banks Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.
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Navigating the Chaos: Leading from Within in a Complex World
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with global speaker, author, and conscious leadership practitioner Michele Risa to explore what it truly means to lead from within during uncertain times.Drawing on decades of global experience, from post-Soviet Russia to the Middle East to Fortune 500 boardrooms, Michele shares insights on agency, authenticity, and navigating chaos with clarity and courage. The conversation also highlights her work with university students through Universities United, preparing the next generation with the inner and outer competencies needed to thrive in today’s workplace.Together, they explore: Why remembering who we are is foundational to leadership How inner work drives outer impact The role of trust and authenticity in engagement and retention What young leaders need to navigate complexity and uncertaintyThis episode is a must-listen for leaders, educators, and anyone committed to human-centered leadership.Guest Bio:Michele Risa is a global speaker, former Citibank executive, award-winning author, and conscious leadership practitioner. She is co-author of Conscious Entrepreneurs and the founder of Collaborative Solutions Global. Michele has spoken at the World Economic Forum, TEDx Manhattan, and for organizations including Microsoft, MasterCard, and the New York Stock Exchange.Connect with Michele:Website: www.CollaborativeSolutions.Global
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From Fragmented to Whole: Reclaiming Power Through Boundaries
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with boundaries coach, speaker, and podcast host Barb Nangle for a deeply honest conversation about healing, codependence, and reclaiming personal power.After decades of surface-level healing, Barb’s life transformed at age 52 through 12- step recovery. By addressing codependence, intergenerational trauma, and compulsive overeating, she learned to build healthy boundaries that changed every aspect of her life—from relationships and career to physical and emotional well-being.Together, Rhoda and Barb explore: Why boundaries are essential, not selfish How codependence keeps women stuck in self-neglect The connection between emotional healing and physical health How inner transformation creates broader social impactThis episode is a must-listen for women ready to break old patterns, reclaim their voice, and become whole.Guest Bio:Barb Nangle is a boundaries coach, speaker, author, and podcast host of Fragmented to Whole. After a life-changing recovery journey at 52, Barb now empowers professional women to break cycles of self-neglect, heal deep-rooted wounds, and build healthy boundaries that support personal growth and social change.Connect with Barb:Website: https://higherpowercc.com/Podcast: https://higherpowercc.com/podcast/
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The Thinking Patient: Where Healthcare Expertise Meets Lived Experience
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with healthcare consultant, speaker, and survivor Dana E. Sherwin for a powerful conversation at the intersection of expertise and lived experience.With over 35 years in healthcare leadership and consulting, and as a six-and-a-half-year survivor of a stem cell transplant, Dana offers a unique perspective on patient–physician communication, patient advocacy, and what it truly means to center care around the human experience.Together, they explore: Why patient–physician communication is foundational to quality care How Dana’s personal medical journey reshaped her professional mission What healthcare leaders can do to elevate the patient experience How patients can become informed, empowered partners in their own care This conversation is a must-listen for healthcare leaders, clinicians, patients, and anyone passionate about creating more compassionate, effective healthcare systems.Guest Bio:Dana E. Sherwin is a healthcare consultant and speaker focused on healthcare management and patient–physician communication. She has held executive and consulting roles across hospitals, managed care plans, and leading national consulting firms. Dana holds a Master of Health Services Administration from the University of Michigan and a Bachelor of Science from Cornell University. She is a Fellow of the American College of Healthcare Executives and serves on multiple editorial and advisory boards. Dana is also a stem cell transplant survivor and the voice behind The Thinking Patient.Connect with Dana:Website: www.thethinkingpatient.com
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The Future of Leadership is Human
In this heart-centered and insightful episode, Rhoda sits down with former colleague and transformational leader, Erik Person, to explore why the future of leadership is increasingly human-driven, rooted in empathy, authenticity, and honoring people’s unique strengths.Erik shares: His philosophy of building teams of “loveable misfits” How empathy transforms outcomes in leadership What human-centric leadership looks like in practice How to lead teams through uncertainty and change The role of mindfulness, resiliency, and authenticity in modern organizations The legacy he hopes to leave for the leaders coming behind himThis is a conversation for anyone who leads, wants to lead, or wants to be led by someone who truly sees them.Key Questions Explored What does “The future of leadership is human” mean in today’s world? How does empathy differ from simply “being nice”? What does a human-centric leader look like in action? How can leaders balance compassion with accountability? Why is empathy essential during change and uncertainty? What breakthrough insight would Erik offer to emerging leaders?Takeaways Empathy is not a weakness, it’s strategic strength. The best teams are built from unique, diverse gifts. Leadership legacy is created one human moment at a time. Resiliency begins with people feeling seen, valued, and supported.
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Panic-Free Leadership: Calm Power, Clarity & Conscious Confidence with Elle Ingalls
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with peak-performance coach Elle Ingalls to explore how leaders move from reaction-based leadership to conscious, grounded leadership rooted in presence and self-regulation.They discuss: Why reactive leadership happens, and how to break the cycle Tools for leading with calm, clarity, and confidence Women’s leadership and the “over-responsibility” pattern The nervous system’s role in emotional presence and decision-making Practical techniques for stress-free high performance How to replace urgency with intentionality and self-trustKey Takeaway:Calm is not passive, calm is power. Leaders don’t rise by doing more; they rise by grounding more deeply in who they are and how they show up.Connect with Elle: https://elleingalls.com/ Panic Free Peak Performance resources available on her siteConnect with Rhoda:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/virtualrhodabanksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.
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The Only Imposter is the Syndrome
In this powerful episode, Rhoda sits down with leadership strategist and OD expert Joani Alsop to reframe one of the most pervasive challenges facing women in leadership: imposter syndrome.But Joani doesn’t believe you are the imposter. She believes the syndrome itself is lying to you, and today, she breaks down how to silence that false narrative while owning your power.In this episode: Why self-doubt often rises with success, not failure How systems, not individuals, can trigger the “imposter” feeling Practical reframes and rituals for stepping into rooms with confidence Language shifts that help you stop minimizing and start owningThis conversation is for every woman who has ever over-prepared, over-apologized, or over-delivered just to feel worthy. You’re not alone, and more importantly, you were never the imposter.Call to Action If this episode reminded you of your own quiet battles with confidence, take a moment to reframe the story you tell yourself. You were never the imposter, the feeling was. Share this episode with a woman in your world who needs that reminder today and tag us using #BreakthroughConversations so we can cheer her on too.Stay Connected with Rhoda:Website: www.therhodaexperience.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therhodaexperience/Instagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Speaking Inquiries: [email protected] us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversations
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From Pillars to People: How Chris Dyer Levels Up Leadership & Culture
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda welcomes culture and high-performance leadership authority Chris Dyer, bestselling author, global speaker, and former CEO who led companies ranked “Best Place to Work” 15 times.Chris is widely regarded as the #1 Culture Speaker, creator of the evidence-based 7 Pillars of Amazing Culture, and author of The Power of Company Culture and Remote Work. His work helps leaders activate trust, transparency, listening, and accountability to build workplaces where people and performance thrive.Together, Rhoda and Chris explore what truly shapes culture in today’s evolving workplace, and how leaders can show up with clarity, humanity, and intention, evenamid AI disruption, hybrid environments, and shifting employee expectations.In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Why culture is a science, not just an art The mindset shift that moved Chris from CEO to culture expert The leadership behaviors behind companies winning “Best Place to Work” 15times How transparency transforms performance and psychological safety Why listening and positivity are underestimated leadership superpowers Tactical ideas for experimenting with culture (reverse mentoring, no-meetingdays, etc.) The future of leadership in an AI-driven world Practical prompts for becoming a culture-driven leader todayWho This Episode Is ForThis conversation is perfect for: Senior leaders & executives Culture and talent professionals Future-focused HR and people leaders Managers striving to build high-trust teams Anyone passionate about workplace purpose, performance & belongingConnect With Chris DyerWebsite: https://chrisdyer.comBooks: The Power of Company Culture, Remote WorkSpeaking & Programs: https://chrisdyer.com/speakingConnect With RhodaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/virtualrhodabanksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.If today's conversation sparked a leadership breakthrough, share it with a colleague or leader who is shaping culture where they stand.
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Leading with Empathy: Women in Leadership with Holly Golebiowski
Join Holly Golebiowski as she shares her leadership transformation—from nearly losing her career to becoming a sought-after executive coach. We explore how empathy is a strategic asset, how women can assert themselves with awareness and compassion, and how self-coaching tools like DISC and “introvert safe words” help create inclusive leadership spaces.Key Insights: Empathy isn’t weakness—it’s strategic business currency DataDrivenInvestor. The power of self-awareness and coaching to pivot careers The Bliss Business PodcastSoundCloud. Practical tools like DISC assessments and introvert safe words to createpresence and clarity Facebook+15Powerful IntrovertPodcast+15SoundCloud+15. Balancing performance with psychological safety—leading with heart.Action Items for Leaders:1. Learn to use self-awareness tools (like DISC) to uncover and adapt leadershipstyle.2. Frame empathy as performance—build trust, resilience, and innovation throughauthentic leadership.3. For meeting equity—use introvert safe words to pause and reset dynamics.4. Embrace self-coaching—ask, "What am I afraid of?" or "What does success look like?" as Holly recommends Facebook+11Powerful IntrovertPodcast+11SoundCloud+11Facebook+4The Bliss BusinessPodcast+4DataDrivenInvestor+4.Connect with Holly: LeaderSkills website (found via her profile) Apple Podcasts+5The Bliss Business Podcast+5SoundCloud+5 Highlights from recent episodes: From Burnout to Breakthrough, Role ofEmpathy in Leadership Powerful Introvert Podcast+3RSS.com+3The BlissBusiness Podcast+3Thanks for listening!If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share. Lead with empathy, clarity, and courage.
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From Grief to Global Impact: How Noura Ghazi Leads with Heart
In this inspiring episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda Banks welcomes Noura Ghazi, a Syrian human rights lawyer, activist, and founder of Families for Freedom and NoPhotoZone. Noura’s life has been defined by courage, growing up with a political prisoner father, marrying open-source advocate Bassel Khartabil through prison visits, and transforming unimaginable loss into a global mission to serve the detained and disappeared.This conversation isn’t just about advocacy; it’s about leadership. Noura shares what it means to stand tall as a woman leader, how she finds strength in service, and why the world needs women’s voices now more than ever.Call to ActionIf you’ve ever wondered how to turn adversity into action or how one woman can spark change, this is the episode you need. Listen, be inspired, and support the work at nouraghazi.org.Stay Connected with RhodaWebsite: www.therhodaexperience.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therhodaexperience/Instagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Speaking Inquiries: [email protected] us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversations
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Debt-Free & Denim: Crafting a Second Act with Purpose (with Tanja Huston)
In this powerful conversation, Rhoda sits down with retired HR executive Tanja Huston, who has transformed her post-corporate life into a vibrant blend of storytelling, creativity, and financial wisdom.From launching a children’s literacy nonprofit (Tanja Huston’s Books) to upcycling denim and fabric into couture-worthy fashion pieces, Tanja shares how she built a second act rooted in purpose over titles.Topics We Cover: How to emotionally and financially prepare for reinvention Living debt-free by design, not by accident Why creativity isn’t just a hobby, it’s healing and legacy Turning pillowcases into purses & comforters into hoodies The mission behind Tanja Huston’s Books and why literacy mattersConnect with Tanja and/or Donate to Tanja Huston’s Books:www.tanjahuston.comConnect with Rhoda:@RhodaBanksOfficial | The Rhoda Experience
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The Power Shift: Leading Like an Ally with Julie Kratz
In this powerful episode, Rhoda is joined by Julie Kratz—LinkedIn TopVoice, allyship expert, TEDx speaker, and author of seven books includingher newest, We Want You: An Allyship Guide for People with Power. Julieshares her journey from feeling a lack of belonging in corporate spaces tobecoming a national voice on inclusion. Together, they explore what realallyship looks like, how people with power can lead differently, and why thetime for action is now.Topics Covered: Julie’s personal “pivot points” from corporate life to allyship The inspiration and message behind We Want You How leaders can activate inclusive behaviors Overcoming the fear of getting allyship wrong Celebrating International Allyship DayResources & Links: We Want You: An Allyship Guide for People with Power – Available nowNextPivotPoint.comWatch Julie’s TEDx TalkSubscribe to Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.
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From Quiet Strength to Bold Entrepreneurship: Kristina Desilva
Kristina Desilva shares her journey from quiet contributor to bold entrepreneur, proving that authenticity and emotional intelligence are the true game-changers in leadership In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda talks with Kristina Desilva, CEO & Founder of Skybright Coaching LLC, about her journey from introverted contributor to global leader and now bold entrepreneur. Kristina shares how authentic leadership and emotional intelligence shaped her career, the underratedsoft skills every leader needs, and how she’s helping women step into leadership on their own terms.“Presence, empathy, and authenticity aren’t just soft skills, they’re transformational skills.”If you’re ready to embrace your authentic self and lead with purpose, this conversation will inspire you. Don’t forget to follow, rate, and share the podcast to help us amplify these powerful voices.
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Composing Confidence: Coaching, Creativity, and Leadership with Dr. Alina Kirshon-Goldman
What happens when music, coaching, and leadership come together? In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with Dr. Alina Kirshon- Goldman, educator, musician, entrepreneur, and certified coach, who has built a career at the powerful intersection of creativity and confidence.As the founder of Alina’s Music Studio, Alina helps students, especially young girls, develop far more than technical skill. Through violin, viola, voice, and coaching, she creates a space where music becomes a tool for empowerment, emotional expression, and leadership growth.Together, Rhoda and Alina explore: How Alina’s journey from musician to entrepreneur to coach unfolded The ways coaching transforms music lessons into life lessons How performance builds presence and leadership skills Strategies for moving through performance anxiety that apply far beyond the stage Why creativity is one of the most underutilized leadership tools todayThis episode will inspire you to see leadership as something that can be composed, practiced, and lived with confidence.About Dr. Alina Kirshon-GoldmanDr. Alina is the founder of Alina’s Music Studio, where she blends music education with personal development. A certified coach and passionate educator, she uses music to unlock confidence and leadership in her students. Her work empowers the next generation, particularly young girls, to embrace their voice, step into their power, andnlead with courage and creativity.Learn more or book a lesson: www.alinasmusicstudio.comIf you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co. so more people can discover stories of women leading boldly and authentically.Follow the Podcast:@breakthroughconversationswithrhoda | #BreakthroughWithRhoda
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From Burnout to Balance: Redefining Success for Women of Color with Dr. Lynise Green
In this powerful episode, Dr. Lynise Green shares her journey from a career inengineering to becoming a leader in holistic wellness and leadership strategy. She opens up about her personal experience with burnout and how it led to building two brands, WellWithL and WorkWell Strategic Consulting, focused on helping high- achieving women reclaim their energy and redefine success. You’ll learn about her Vitality Reset, Mental Reset, and how to identify burnout before it derails your life and leadership.Topics Covered: Recognizing burnout and energy depletion Redefining success for women, especially women of color Holistic wellness in corporate leadership Leading with purpose, clarity, and sustainabilityConnect with Dr. Green: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynisegreennd/Follow the Podcast:@breakthroughconversationswithrhoda | #BreakthroughWithRhoda
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Polished Presence: How to Lead with Confidence, Class, and Connection
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., I sit downwith Nancy Imbs, founder and president of Polished., a leadership and soft skills consultancy dedicated to helping individuals shine whether in a boardroom, a ballroom, or anywhere in between.With a career spent coaching everyone from politicians and executives to athletes, college grads, and teens, Nancy knows what it takes to elevate your presence, refine your communication, and master emotional intelligence. Her approach blends confidence-building strategies with timeless etiquette and modern leadership tools, empowering people to show up withpurpose and poise in every interaction.In this conversation, we explore:The mission behind Polished. and how Nancy’s journey shaped her callingThe common thread among people striving to elevate themselves, regardless of age or professionWhat “being polished” truly means in today’s workplaceHow to define and build authentic executive presenceThe connection between emotional intelligence, leadership, and personal brandWhy etiquette and nonverbalcommunication are still powerful differentiatorsCommon communication mistakes leaders make and how to avoid themPractical steps to start showing up more confidently todayThe key messages audiences are craving from leadership speakers right nowIf you’ve ever wondered how to command a room without saying a word, or how to lead with both warmth and authority, Nancy’s wisdom will give you the mindset and tools to make it happen.Connect with Nancy Imbs:Website: Polished.LinkedIn: Nancy ImbsGet ready to elevate your presence, polishyour personal brand, and connect morepowerfully than ever before.
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From Trainer to Trailblazer: Holly Pyatt on Leadership, Launching, and Leveling Up
In this inspiring episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., we sit down with Holly Pyatt, founder of Pyatt Consulting, whose career journey proves that leadership isn’t just a role, it’s a calling.Holly first made her mark as a standout trainer during one of the largest Epic implementations back in 2007–2008. Under pressure and with thousands of moving parts, she learned what true leadershiplooks like when the stakes are high. Since then, she’s navigated industries, coached leaders, built high-performing teams, and ultimately launched her own consulting business.We cover everything from the common pitfalls leaders face to the role emotional intelligence plays in today’s leadership landscape. Holly also shares candid insights about the leap from corporate leader to entrepreneur, what’s been rewarding, what’s been surprising, and what she wishes more women knew before they launch their own ventures.In this episode, you’ll discover:How pivotal career moments shaped Holly’sleadership philosophyThe leadership pitfalls she sees most oftenand how to overcome themWhat “high performance” really means andhow to achieve itWhy emotional intelligence andcommunication are non-negotiables formodern leadersThe mission and unique edge of PyattConsultingHolly’s advice for women ready to level upor launch their own businessA leadership lesson she’s carried throughevery roleEncouragement for those feeling stuck oroverlooked in their careerConnect with Holly Pyatt:Website: Pyatt ConsultingLinkedIn: Holly PyattIf you’ve ever felt the pull to lead, launch, orlevel up, this conversation will give you boththe inspiration and practical wisdom to takethat next bold step.
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Breaking Through the Mid-Career Ceiling with Coach Annie P
In this empowering episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda sits down with the powerhouse Coach Annie Pelissier, leadership coach, entrepreneur, and founder of Elevate Consulting. Annie brings the fire as she shares her mission to help mid-career women stop playing small and start showing up big. You’ll hear about her personal journey, the bold reasons behind launching Elevate Consulting, and the transformational results of her mastermind program designed specifically for women navigating mid-career crossroads. Annie doesn't hold back when it comes to mindset traps, bold leadership, and reclaiming power in spaces not designed for us. Grab your notebook and your courage, this conversation is one you’ll want to revisit.What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why so many mid-career women shrink themselves and how to stop. What inspired Annie to become a leadership coach. How Elevate Consulting is closing critical gaps in leadership development. What bold leadership looks like for women in systems not built for them. Mindset traps that hold women back and how to break free. How to stay elevated and inspired as a coach and leader.Call to Action:Have you ever felt stuck in the middle of your career journey? What bold move are you ready to make? Tag us on social and share your breakthrough moment. Use the hashtag #BreakthroughWithRhoda and Listen Now on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Stay Connected with Rhoda:Website: www.therhodaexperience.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therhodaexperience/Instagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Speaking Inquiries: [email protected] us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversations
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From Billing Office to Boardroom: Bold Leadership & Transformative Conversations with Rhoshay Rogers
In this powerful and personal episode, host Rhoda Banks sits down with her sister and trailblazing executive, Rhoshay Rogers, Sr. Leader at a large health plan. From her early days in the billing office to leading national teams that shape the future of healthcare delivery, Rhoshay’s story is a masterclass in bold leadership, resilience, and transformation.Together, they explore the realities of being a Black woman in corporate America, the power of purpose-driven leadership, and what it truly takes to go from overlooked to undeniable. Whether you’re just starting out or already leading, this episode will leave you feeling inspired to own your brilliance and walk boldly toward your next breakthrough.What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Rhoshay’s first steps in healthcare and her unexpected path to executiveleadership What “clinical transformation” means—and why it matters now more than ever Stories of navigating bias, microaggressions, and corporate barriers as a Black woman How Rhoshay coaches nurses and clinicians transitioning into strategic, data- driven roles Her greatest leadership lesson—and how she defines bold leadership Grounded advice for emerging leaders seeking to grow with intention The one message Rhoshay would give to her younger selfNotable Quotes“Be your true authentic self, be humble and show vulnerability…” – Rhoshay“If people aren’t your passion, you should not be leading them.” - RhodaCall to Action:If this episode moved you, don’t keep it to yourself. Subscribe, rate, and share with someone who needs a reminder that their starting point does not define their finish line. Leave a review on Apple or Spotify and use #BreakthroughConversations to join the conversation.Stay Connected with Rhoda:Website: www.therhodaexperience.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therhodaexperience/Instagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Speaking Inquiries: [email protected] us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversations
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Breaking Through the Glass Ceiling: Latina Leadership in Corporate America
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Company, Rhoda welcomes Latina corporate leader Ana Sarg, who has spent over 20 years at MasterCard working her way from the front lines of customer service to executive leadership.Ana reflects on the triumphs and trials of navigating corporate America as a woman of color, the power of identity in leadership, the critical role of both mentorship and sponsorship and what it truly takes to shatter the glass ceiling. This conversation is a masterclass in resilience, cultural pride, and career elevation.What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Ana’s rise from customer service to leadership at MasterCard How she stayed motivated in a system not built for her Navigating identity and authenticity in corporate culture Her personal definition of inclusive leadership Advice for young Latinas building their careers Her proudest leadership moment—and what’s nextNotable Quotes:“We never lose, we learn.” — Ana Sorich“Meeting people where they are is key.” — Rhoda BanksStay Connected with Ana Sarg on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-sarg-80660a7/Stay Connected with Rhoda:Website: www.therhodaexperience.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therhodaexperience/Instagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Speaking Inquiries: [email protected] us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversationsEnjoyed this episode? Share it with a woman who’s ready to lead Leave a review on Apple or Spotify Use #BreakthroughConversations to join the conversation
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A Mentor’s Journey in Entrepreneurship, Mentorship, and Navigating in White Corporate America
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Rhoda Banks sits down with longtime mentee and trailblazing entrepreneur Karmen Trice to reflect on their shared journey that began back in 2007. What started as a mentorship relationship evolved into a sisterhood rooted in growth, purpose, and breaking barriers.Karmen shares what it was like returning to school as an adult, navigating corporate America as a Black woman in predominantly white spaces, and ultimately carving her own lane through entrepreneurship. Together, they explore the role of mentorship, identity, and advocacy in shaping careers and building lasting legacies. Whether you're a leader, a mentee, or someone simply trying to find your place in the room this episode will leave you inspired to walk boldly in your truth.What You’ll Hear in This Episode: The origin story of Karmen and Rhoda’s mentor-mentee bond Karmen’s courageous decision to return to school and reimagine her future Navigating corporate white spaces as a Black woman: lessons, trauma, and triumphs How mentorship shapes access, confidence, and identity Karmen’s pivot into entrepreneurship and how she defines success on her terms A rapid-fire round of wisdom: breakthrough moments, advice for younger self, and what’s nextCall to ActionLoved this conversation? Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review your support helps us amplify more powerful voices and stories like Karmen’s. Share this episode with a mentor, mentee, or someone who needs a reminder that their breakthrough is possible.#BreakthroughConversations #MentorshipMatters #BlackWomenInBusiness#TheRhodaExperienceConnect with Rhoda & Co.Website: www.therhodaexperience.comInstagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Tag us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversations
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Rediscovering Your Muchness: Rethinking HR & Reclaiming Authenticity w/ Amy of Sublimitas Consulting
Hosted by Rhoda Banks | Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Episode SummaryIn this soul-stirring episode, Rhoda is joined by Amy Rannebarger, founder of Sublimitas Consulting, and co-creator of Wingman™ Growth Solutions. Together, they unpack how corporate culture often silences authenticity and how leaders can reclaim their "muchness" to drive meaningful transformation.Amy shares her journey of rediscovery, the origins of her popular blog series The Return to Muchness, and the bold moves she’s made in just one year as a founder, speaker, and strategic consultant. She invites us to reimagine HR not as a compliance function, but as a catalyst for soul-centered business growth.If you’re feeling stuck, small, or disconnected from your purpose this episode is your call to turn your soul volume back up.In This Episode, We Cover: What it means to “rediscover your muchness” in life and leadership The hidden dysfunctions in workplaces and how Amy helps untangle them The purpose behind Wingman™ Growth Solutions and the “messy middle” How HR can shift from transactional to transformational A powerful self-reflection question for listeners who’ve been dimming their lightGuest Spotlight: Amy of Sublimitas ConsultingAmy is a strategist, speaker, and founder of Sublimitas Consulting. She’s passionate about helping leaders and organizations return to what matters most, clarity, connection, and courageous action. She’s also the co-founder of Wingman™ Growth Solutions and currently writing her book Soul Volume: Heart-Whole and Soul Free. Blog Series: The Return to Muchness New Podcast: Wingman On Call Learn more: www.sublimitasconsulting.comCall to ActionIf you’ve been playing small or hiding parts of yourself to survive the grind, this is your sign. Ask yourself:“Where am I shrinking to fit, and what would it look like to take up space again?”Connect with Rhoda & Co.Website: www.therhodaexperience.comInstagram: @rhoda.banksPodcast: Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co.Tag us with your takeaways using #BreakthroughConversations
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Feathers of Confidence: Embracing Compliments and Celebrating Your Inner Peacock
In this vibrant and heartfelt episode, Rhoda Banks sits down with HR executive, life coach, and author Shannon Norman, founder of Accept the Compliment for Women. From being on her own at a young age to rising as a respected voice in both corporate spaces and women’s empowerment circles, Shannon brings vulnerability, humor, and truth to every story she shares. Together, they discuss the struggle women face with self-worth, the art of receiving compliments, and what it really means to walk with peacock-level confidence.What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Shannon’s early life and how she rose from adversity Her evolution as an HR leader and life coach The origins of Accept the Compliment for Women Confidence-building tips from her book Confident as a Peacock Why women must learn to take up space and receive love out loud Shannon’s next chapter and parting wisdomConnect with Shannon Norman:Website: https://www.shannonnormancoaching.com/Book: Confident as a PeacockInstagram/LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/norman.shannon/Stay Connected with Rhoda:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therhodaexperience/Instagram: rhoda.banks https://www.instagram.com/rhoda.banks/?hl=enWebsite: www.therhodaexperience.comBook Rhoda to Speak: [email protected] this episode lifted, you up:Share it with a sister, friend, or coworkerPost your favorite quote and tag @RhodaBanksUse the hashtag #BreakthroughConversations
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When Men Amplify Women’s Stories: A Conversation with Orlando Walker
In this unforgettable episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., we explore the sacred intersection of art, family, and purpose. Rhoda is joined by Orlando Walker—a gifted artist, storyteller, and the creator of the striking cover art for her memoir, Daughter of an Assassin.What makes this episode especially powerful is the divine twist: Orlando didn’t just collaborate on the art—he’s family. Through Ancestry.com, Rhoda’s sister discovered she had a brother. That brother was Orlando. And what followed was more than a reunion—it was the beginning of legacy work rooted in healing and creative alignment.Together, they discuss the moment of discovery, the emotional and artistic process of designing the book cover, and the deeper meaning behind amplifying women’s voices, especially through the lens of a man using his gifts to uplift.Highlights from the Conversation: How Orlando’s discovery of his biological sister led to new family bonds and creative collaboration The evolution of the Daughter of an Assassin cover art, from concept to symbolism A powerful backstory behind a piece of Orlando’s art displayed on his wall illustrating the plight of women His story of being published six times and helping another woman author navigate the publishing process, saving her thousands How his first Fossil watch gifted by the brand became a tribute art piece that eventually sold The legacy Orlando hopes to leave through art that reflects identity, resilience, and truthFeatured Quote:“Sometimes healing doesn’t arrive in the way we expect. Sometimes it shows up in brushstrokes, in siblings we never knew we had, or in divine timing that links our stories together.” — Rhoda Banks.About the Guest:Orlando Walker is a visual artist whose work reflects deep emotional themes around identity, struggle, and the strength of individuals, with some pieces focusing specifically on the strength of women. With six published art pieces and a growing body of legacy work, Orlando uses his platform to amplify underrepresented voices. He is also a mentor, having guided women authors through the publishing process to ensure their stories, and covers, reflect their full truth.
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Leading with Heart: Redefining Effective Leadership through Compassion and Vision w/ Heather Younger
In this inspiring episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., host Rhoda sits down with bestselling author, TEDx speaker, and workplace culture strategist Heather Younger. Known for her powerful insights on employee engagement and compassionate leadership, Heather shares the evolution of her work—from The Art of Caring Leadership to her newest iteration, Unshakable Leadership.Together, they explore what it means to lead with heart in today’s complex, fast-paced, and often disconnected workplace. From her personal journey to practical strategies, Heather unpacks the true power of empathy, trust, and vision in leadership. Whether you're an emerging leader or a seasoned executive, this episode will challenge and inspire you to rethink what effective leadership really looks like.In This Episode, We Cover: What inspired Heather’s leadership journey and how her personal story shaped her mission The core principles of heart-centered leadership—and why they're more relevant than ever How to integrate compassion and empathy into everyday leadership practices The real business impact of leading with heart: retention, engagement, and performance Practical strategies for building trust, inclusion, and psychological safety Advice for aspiring leaders navigating tough environments The future of leadership and the rise of Unshakable LeadershipMemorable Quote:"Leadership is less about titles and more about how we make people feel, day in and day out."— Heather Younger
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Leading with Grace: Candice Evans on Stress, Self-Care & Holding Space for Others
Author and mental health advocate Candice Evans joins Breakthrough Conversations to share how unacknowledged stress impacted her body—and how choosing grace helped her heal and lead. In this episode, Candice shares powerful insights from her book DIG: Develop in Grace, reminding us that real leadership starts with self-leadership.Key takeaways: How stress can manifest physically—even when you're doing “everything right” Why leaders must prioritize their own mental health to lead others well The DIG method: Develop in Grace—a practical path to healing and growthSocial Media One-Liner:Feeling stretched thin while leading others? Tune in as @candicegraceevans shares how to DIG: Develop in Grace and lead yourself first. #BreakthroughConversations #LeadWithGrace #DIG
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Unapologetically Seen: Tangela Williams Spann on Mental Health & Radical Self-Acceptance
In this raw and powerful episode, author and advocate Tangela Williams Spann shares the emotional journey behind her books Sad, Black, and Fat and Brazen, Black, and Free. We explore how race, body image, and mental health intersect, and why being unapologetically seen is its own act of freedom.Key highlights: How unspoken stress and stigma impact mental wellness and self-worth The power of storytelling and humor in healing out loud Why representation and compassion matter—especially for Black girls andwomenSocial Media One-Liner:“Being seen is radical.” Don’t miss this bold episode with @tangelawspann on mental health, body image, and breaking free. #BreakthroughConversations #BrazenBlackAndFree #UnapologeticallySeen
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Color Outside the Lines: Balancing Corporate Ambitions with Creative Entrepreneurship
In this high-energy and heartfelt episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., we sit down with the unforgettable Lashondria “Shon” Hunt — corporate professional by day and dynamic Wedding Day-of Coordinator by weekend. Shon brings the sparkle wherever she goes, and in this episode, she opens up about what it really means to live and lead in two very different worlds.From navigating leadership roles in corporate America to orchestrating once-in-a- lifetime moments for couples as the founder of ShonLuv Events, Shon shares lessons on time management, self-protection in business, and how mentorship and authenticity have been her superpowers. If you're a multi-passionate professional or an aspiring creative entrepreneur, this episode is your permission slip to color outside the lines and lead with your whole self.What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How to protect your business and peace of mind when dealing with difficultclients Why mentorship matters (and how it shaped Shon's path) The art of time-juggling two careers Tips for building a brand around your authentic personality Advice for anyone chasing a side hustle while working a 9-to-5Guest:Lashondria “Shon” HuntFounder & Owner, ShonLuv Events | Wedding Day-of Coordinator | Corporate Rockstar| Mentor & Joy-BringerConnect with Shon:https://www.shonloveevents.com/https://www.instagram.com/shonloveevents/https://www.facebook.com/people/ShonLove-Events/61563918541064/#
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From Burnout to Breakthrough: Honoring the Voice Inside with Krista Kathleen
In this soulful episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., we explore the journey from burnout to deep inner alignment with special guest Krista Kathleen—former nurse turned life coach, business mentor, and founder of Born to Coach®. Krista shares how honoring her intuition led her to a more fulfilling life and how she now empowers other women to do the same through coaching, hypnotherapy, and intentional self-discovery.Rhoda takes a brave leap during the episode and participates in a live guidedmeditation and coaching session, giving listeners a front-row seat to what it’s like to tune into your body’s wisdom and inner voice. Together, they unpack how to distinguish fear from intuition, why so many women struggle to trust themselves, and practical ways to begin your own breakthrough journey.In This Episode: Krista’s journey from nursing to building a coaching business A powerful live guided meditation and coaching demo How to differentiate between fear and intuition Tools for women feeling stuck, burnt out, or out of alignment The biggest transformations Krista’s clients have experienced What’s next for Born to Coach®Whether you're seeking purpose, clarity, or the courage to listen to your gut—this conversation is your nudge to pause, reflect, and honor the voice inside.
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Bouncing Beyond Barriers: From WNBA Star to Healthcare Leader with Sylvia Owens
In this episode of Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., Rhoda reconnects with longtime friend and powerhouse leader Sylvia Owens. Sylvia’s story is one of resilience, transformation, and trust earned over time. From professional basketball courts around the world—including the WNBA—to executive leadership in healthcare, Sylvia shares how the grit, discipline, and teamwork from her sports career laid the foundation for her success in corporate America.You’ll hear how their friendship began with a cafeteria encounter and an unforgettable moment of truth, plus how Sylvia’s leadership style mirrors her days on the court. She opens up about navigating imposter syndrome, empowering women—especially African American women—and mentoring the next generation of leaders. With humor, humility, and honesty, Sylvia reminds us that the path to breakthrough is paved with purpose and perseverance.Topics Covered: Transitioning from athlete to healthcare leader The role of trust and authenticity in leadership Strategies for mentoring and empowerment Advice for women breaking through limiting beliefs The basketball move that defines her leadership styleTune in and discover how Sylvia Owens continues to bounce beyond barriers—on and off the court.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co., the podcast wherereal talk sparks real change.Hosted by Rhoda Banks—HR Executive, Certified Coach, Leadership Expert, and Two- Time Author—this show dives deep into the stories of women who have shattered barriers and lifted others along the way.From leadership lessons to candid conversations on resilience, sisterhood, andbreaking through the glass and concrete ceilings—especially for African Americanwomen—each episode delivers insights, inspiration, and actionable strategies for rising, leading, and lifting as you climb.Whether you're navigating the boardroom, pushing past career ceilings, or redefining success on your own terms, Breakthrough Conversations with Rhoda & Co. is your space to learn, grow, glow, and build a legacy worth remembering. Because every barrier is breakable.
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