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club 30's with mjfangirl- a Michael Jackson Fan Podcast
by mjfangirl
Club 30s with MJ Fangirl is the go-to podcast for Michael Jackson fans. Tune in for music deep dives, fan conversations, event reviews, and cultural analysis celebrating the King of Pop’s legacy. Featuring exclusive interviews with dancers, collaborators, and members of MJ’s inner circle, Club 30s offers rare stories and behind-the-scenes insights you won’t find anywhere else. Whether you’re a lifelong fan or just discovering his magic, this is your space to connect, reflect, and celebrate MJ.
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71. MICHAEL - the BIOPIC review episode!
In this episode, we review the Michael Jackson biopic! Real fan reaction featuring mjfangirl and Randall. We discuss whether the biopic met our expectations, Jaafar Jackson's acting and whether or not he was believable as Michael Jackson in the film, likes and dislikes of the Michael biopic and some of our hopes for part 2. From the choreography to Colman Domingo’s portrayal of Joe Jackson, we’re sharing our unfiltered reactions straight from the theater to help you decide if this is the definitive MJ story. If you are a NEW Michael Jackson fan, please subscribe to this show. I do a lot of content specifically for the Michael Jackson fan community and I would love to have you as a part of the fam here! Michael Biopic Review: Timestamps00:00 - Introduction: Leaving the Theater After ‘Michael’03:45 - Comparison to ‘The Jacksons: An American Dream’ (1992)05:15 - How the Film Humanizes MJ: Vulnerability & Animals08:02 - Film Structure: Pacing, Non-Linear Storytelling & Editing09:44 - Key Career Moments: Motown 25 & The MTV Era11:28 - Jaafar Jackson Performance Review: Did He Capture the Spirit?14:00 - Handling the Controversies15:20 - Colman Domingo as Joe Jackson17:12 - The “Spider-Man Problem”: Skipping Key MJ History19:45 Why was Janet Jackson not in the Michael Jackson movie?24:20 - Easter Eggs for Fans28:30 - Discussion on the Music, Choreography, & Rich + Tone32:15 - The Estate’s Influence: How it Affected the Final Cut40:30 - Favorite Scenes & Favorite Performances45:10 - Audience reactions to Michael biopic54:30 - Will There Be a Sequel or Extended Cut?58:00- Closing Thoughts✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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68. How ET the Extraterrestrial helped Michael Jackson got his PUBLISHING - full breakdown
Michael Jackson got his publishing and masters in an unexpected way. Randall joins me today to discuss
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67. Michael Jackson BIOPIC news! JAAFAR JACKSON speaks, fan events, & official soundtrack
Hey hey! Excited to be back for a brief moment in the middle of my maternity leave to do an in studio episode all about the Michael Jackson biopic with my dad. I am talking about what songs are on the Michael Jackson movie soundtrack, recent Jaafar Jackson interviews, red carpet and fan events PLUS more. We also get into the true stories behind Motown 25, Victory Tour, Bad Tour and more. Comment below if you enjoyed this episode and let me know what city you'll be watching the biopic from! Get Early Access Michael biopic tickets- https://michael.movie/Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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66. Michael Jackson Fans Pick the Most Underrated Song (The Debate Got Heated) with Chris Lacy
Michael Jackson has one of the deepest catalogs in music history, which means some incredible songs inevitably get overlooked. So the question is simple… what is Michael Jackson’s most underrated song? In this episode, I’m joined by Chris Lacy for an old-school debate. Neither of us revealed our picks ahead of time, so we’re hearing each other’s arguments for the first time as the conversation unfolds :)We talk about why some Michael Jackson songs fade from public conversation, how music videos and visuals shape the way songs are remembered, and why certain tracks that fans love still don’t get the same recognition as the big singles. We also get into the depth behind both of these songs and whether being on an album like Thriller can actually make a great track more underrated instead of more famous.Now it’s your turn to decide.Who made the stronger case? Or did we both miss the real answer? :)Let us know in the comments what you think is Michael Jackson’s most underrated song. Subscribe for more deep dives, debates, and conversations about Michael Jackson’s music, history, and legacy.0:00 The Debate Begins: Michael Jackson’s Most Underrated Song0:35 The Rules of the Debate1:40 My Pick: Why Its So Underrated3:10 The Music Video Problem11:35 Chris Reveals His Pick17:40 Is Thriller Actually Why It’s Underrated?21:15 The Counter Arguments23:40 You Decide: Which Song Wins?#MichaelJackson #DangerousAlbum #ThrillerAlbum #WhoIsIt #BabyBeMine #KingOfPopJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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65. Michael Jackson Fans vs. The Victory Tour Ticket System- a look back at what REALLY happened!
In this episode, I am joined by Randall! We break down one of the most chaotic and controversial moments in Jacksons history: the Victory Tour ticket fiasco. Long before online ticketing, fans were required to send money orders by mail, only to be met with delays, confusion, missing tickets, and little to no communication. At the time, it sort of turned into a public relations nightmare, leaving thousands of fans frustrated, angry, and demanding answers. This video walks through exactly how the Victory Tour ticket system worked and we talk about current concert ticket sales and more!We also explore how the Jacksons and Michael Jackson approached resolving this issue. If you’ve ever heard whispers about the Victory Tour ticket drama but never understood the full story, this video connects the dots and explains what really happened behind the scenes during one of Michael Jackson’s most talked-about tours.Follow Randall @ therocfiles or for his Lego Work on @rocsmocs Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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64. We Tried to Decode Michael Jackson’s Sound… Here’s What We Found
What is the classic Michael Jackson sound? It’s a question fans have debated for decades. From “Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough” to “Remember the Time,” from “Stranger in Moscow” to “Black or White,” Michael evolved constantly. And yet… somehow, every era still sounds unmistakably like him. In this episode of Club 30s, we’re breaking down the five core elements that make up Michael Jackson’s signature sound, from limitless imagination and relentless refinement to global connection and blockbuster pop. Music writer Chris Lacy joins me as we explore the DNA behind MJ’s music, and we also feature listener voicemail submissions sharing the songs YOU think define his sound.Is it “Billie Jean”? “Earth Song”? “Bad”? Or something unexpected? Join the conversation in the comments: What song represents Michael Jackson’s signature sound to you?Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl 0:00 – What Is Michael Jackson’s Signature Sound?2:05 – The 5 Elements of Michael Jackson’s Music6:20 – “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’” vs. “Billie Jean” (Fan Picks)11:10 – Why “Earth Song” Defines Michael Jackson14:10 – “Remember the Time” & Monument of Sound18:30 – “Why You Wanna Trip on Me” & MJ’s Darker Themes22:05 – “Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough” & Quincy Jones Refinement25:15 – “Stranger in Moscow” & Emotional Isolation29:10 – “Black or White,” “Is It Scary” & MJ’s Global Impact40:30 – Final Verdict: What Makes Michael Jackson Timeless?
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63. Michael Jackson Tour Merch: Rare Collectibles & Iconic Pieces (with MJ Market)
Michael Jackson tour merch wasn’t just a souvenir, it was tour-era branding, fan identity, and collectible history. In this episode, I’m joined by Jonathan, owner of MJ Market, a longtime MJ collector and one of the most trusted names in the space, to break down what makes Michael Jackson tour merch so valuable and fun to look at, decades later.We dig into the pieces collectors actually chase, from tour books/programs and rare city/crew shirts, to the unexpectedly iconic Bad Tour paper cups, and the holy grail category: tour jackets (including VIP/contest-level items). If you’ve ever wanted to start collecting or are just curious about the history of Michael Jackson tour merchandise, this is for you!What we cover:-Why Michael Jackson tour programs and merch quality stood out-Rare stories (including the Wembley “Royal Box” program)-Tour shirts, crew exclusives, and what collectors look for-Tour jackets + VIP-only pieces-How to avoid scams + safer ways to buy online👇 Follow Jonathan / MJ Market on all his platforms and tell him mjfangirl sent you! @michaeljacksonmarket@mjj_collectorsMichaelJacksonmarket.com | 10% OFF at MJ Market: Use code MJFANGIRL at checkout.00:00 – Michael Jackson Tour Merch: The Real History 02:55 – Why Tour Merch Still Feels Emotional Decades Later04:46 – Tour Programs: Jackson 5 → Jacksons → Solo Era 06:44 – Bad Tour Programs: Standard vs Special Editions 08:28 – Rarest Tour Program12:06 – Tour Shirts: City Exclusives + Crew/Staff Pieces16:18 – Bad Tour Paper Cups + Dangerous Plastic Cups19:23 – Tour Jackets: Contest Winners, VIP Dinner Jackets, Photographer Vest23:06 – “Golden Ticket” Merch: Brass Keychains + VIP-Only Items29:02 – Biopic Effect: Why More Rare MJ Merch May Surface33:06 – Biggest Collector Mistake36:42 – Authentic Tour Shirt Clues49:21 – The One Item He’ll Never Sell53:03 – Hardest Find + The One That Got Away58:46 – What’s Coming in 2026 (Trading Cards, Reissues, More)59:06 – Bonus: Bad Tour Japan Pepsi Bottle (Still Fizzy?!)01:00:02 – Follow Jonathan + Where to Shop MJ MarketJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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62. The Side of Michael Jackson’s Neverland You Didn’t See (Big Al’s Untold Stories)
In Part 2 of my conversation with Big Al, we continue exploring life inside Neverland Valley Ranch, this time focusing on family events, holidays, touring, and the private moments fans rarely hear about. Big Al shares what Joe Jackson Day was really like behind the scenes, how large family gatherings were managed, and what Christmas at Neverland and charity events looked like when the cameras weren’t around. These stories add another layer to how Neverland functioned, not just as an amusement park, but as a home.Through his memories, we see a more personal side of Michael Jackson - be sure to share and like this video if you enjoyed it!✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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61. I saw Michael Jackson perform LIVE!! my 30th anniversary concert storytime
Enjoy this storytime that I recorded a few years back! It's all about me seeing mj live. a lot of people ask, mjfangirl have you ever seen michael jackson live in concert? i did! :)Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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60. What Michael Jackson’s Neverland Was REALLY Like — Big Al’s Untold Stories (Part 1)
In this episode I am so excited to welcome back Big Al to the show! Big Al was Michael Jackson’s longtime amusement park manager, who worked with him for 15+ years. Today he takes us inside Neverland Valley Ranch and walks through what daily life was really like running Michael’s private amusement park. From opening the gates early in the morning to maintaining rides, trains, and safety systems. You guys also submitted lots of questions, some of which we discussed today (and more coming in part 2) He shares detailed stories about the layout of the ranch, the steam train, Michael’s favorite rides, and how events were carefully planned so everyone experienced every part of Neverland. The conversation also moves into personal moments that reveal Michael Jackson away from the stage. Big Al recounts being gifted one of Michael’s fedoras, driving him and his children to Thanksgiving dinner, being invited to share the holiday meal, and later receiving a custom Santa Claus suit made just for him. Stay tuned for PART 2, dropping next week!TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Welcome to Michael Jackson’s Neverland01:05 – Big Al- Manager of Michael Jackson’s Amusement Park01:30 – “Michael Jackson Gave Me His Hat”03:30 – Why Michael Jackson’s Neverland Was Different05:30 – A “Normal” Day at Michael Jackson’s Neverland07:10 – How Michael Jackson Planned Days for Sick Kids08:50 – Why Michael Jackson Didn’t Play His Own Music 09:30 – Big Al’s Thanksgiving Call From Michael Jackson16:10 – How Neverland Ran Without Michael Jackson20:00 – Michael Jackson’s Favorite Neverland Rides28:00 – “This Will Be Michael Jackson’s Biggest Christmas”36:45 – Michael Jackson Has a Santa Suit Made for Big Al45:30 – Big Al on the Michael Jackson Moments That LastedJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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59. Michael Jackson BIOPIC Movie Trailer 2026 — Emotional First Reaction!!!!!
The Michael Jackson movie trailer is finally here, and in this video, Randall and I are reacting to it live for the very first time! Rather than just an emotional watch-through, we slow it down and take a closer, more intentional look from our longtime fan perspective, breaking down scene choices, visual cues, tone, symbolism, and what the filmmakers seem to be signaling about Michael’s story. Watch along with us, and let’s break it down together!!!Check out Randalls video mix - Michael Jackson, Clipse, Tyler, the Creator - P.O.V. (Video Mix)youtube.com/watch?si=WGOkCuXTI7WRvtC2&v=CMP6yeW9wL0&feature=youtu.be Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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58. Michael Jackson’s Choreographer Travis Payne: Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts & This Is It
For nearly 20 years, choreographer and creative partner Travis Payne worked alongside Michael Jackson-- from the Dangerous era and HIStory Tour, to Ghosts, Scream, and This Is It.In this episode of Club 30s with mjfangirl, I’m joined by Randall (therocfiles / rocsmocs.com ) for a deep-dive conversation with Travis about the creativity, collaboration, and precision behind some of Michael’s most ambitious work. Travis shares what it was really like collaborating with Michael on set and on tour, how Ghosts evolved through multiple versions, and what fans never saw behind the scenes while building massive productions around the world. We also discuss Michael’s rehearsals, global and street-dance influences (including the Bankhead Bounce), and the reality of bringing MJ’s vision to life.Follow Travis Payne:Website: travispayne.comInstagram: @travispayne1Listen to Club 30s with MJFANGIRL:Spotify / Apple Podcasts / Amazon MusicJoin the community (Club 30’s / Patreon):patreon.com/mjfangirlConnect with mjfangirl:Business inquiries: [email protected]: @mjfangirlblogCHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 - Intro: MJfangirl + Randall welcome Travis Payne (Michael Jackson creative partner)00:01:01 - Travis Payne credits: Michael Jackson (Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts, Scream, This Is It)00:02:57 - Travis Payne origin story: Atlanta dance training00:04:03 - Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation Tour00:09:48 - Travis Payne on mentoring young dancers00:14:37 - Travis Payne’s inspirations (Bob Fosse, Alvin Ailey, Debbie Allen + more)00:15:34 - Michael Jackson influence on showmanship00:18:31 - First time working with Michael Jackson00:20:44 - Joining Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Tour00:26:50 - “Dangerous” performance: film references + building MJ’s live cinematic world00:28:37 - Michael Jackson “Dangerous” at Soul Train Awards: why it was full-circle00:32:33 - Michael Jackson rehearsal standard00:33:15 - Bankhead Bounce in “Dangerous”: hip-hop dance + Atlanta culture in MJ choreography00:38:01 - Divine Nine stepping + “Global Dance”00:40:26 - Michael Jackson “Ghosts” era: creative process + early concepts00:41:45 - “Ghosts” filmmaking detail: the “dust” took days to perfect00:44:01 - Why “Ghosts” was ahead of its time (Thriller legacy + Stan Winston + tech)00:54:43 - HIStory Tour logistics: Kingdom Air planes + more01:02:21 - Michael Jackson “Scream” behind the scenes: MJ + Janet collaboration01:13:00 - MJ Immortal / ONE / Michael Jackson: The Experience
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57. Michael Jackson and Hip Hop: Culture, Credibility, and Collision
In this episode of mjfangirl, we dive into a conversation I have been wanting to have for a long time about Michael Jackson and hip hop culture. As hip hop rose from the streets to become the dominant voice of Black youth culture, Michael Jackson had to navigate a world that suddenly valued authenticity, edge, and credibility in ways pop music never had before. This episode explores what happened when the King of Pop met a culture that did not automatically bow to pop royalty.Joined by voices from the Black Jackson Estate Podcast- Ashleigh, and Nikki, along with Randall, and Chris Lacy, we break down how that cultural shift reshaped Michael’s career. We talk through the transition from Thriller to Bad, the New Jack Swing era of Dangerous, and the more experimental and often misunderstood HIStory and Invincible years. The conversation asks whether Michael was embracing hip hop, adapting under pressure, or being actively tested by a culture that had changed the rules.We explore Michael’s real relationships with hip hop artists like Biggie Smalls, Heavy D, Wreckx-N-Effect, Eve, and others, as well as collaborations that almost happened, including Lil’ Kim and Pharrell. We unpack behind the scenes stories from Rodney Jerkins, Michael’s admiration for Biggie and 50 Cent, and why songs like Unbreakable and This Time Around still spark debate decades later. We also examine James Brown’s influence, beatboxing, dance, and the street culture that shaped Michael’s creative evolution. If you have ever wondered where Michael Jackson truly fits in hip hop history, this episode is for you.ROUNDTABLE MEMBERS: Black Jackson Estate @theblackjacksonestatepodcast https://www.patreon.com/c/theblackjacksonestate/Chris Lacy : https://chrislacy1990.medium.com @ chrislacy1990Randall - @ therocfiles / @rocsmocs #HipHop #NotoriousBIG #michaeljackson TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Michael Jackson & Hip Hop: Why This Conversation Matters02:26 – Personal Hip Hop Origins (NYC, Atlanta, The South)05:32 – From Thriller to Bad: Cultural Pressure on Michael Jackson06:59 – Quincy Jones, Rap Skepticism & the “Hip Hop Is a Fad” Debate09:23 – James Brown, Beatboxing & MJ’s Hip Hop DNA10:27 – New Jack Swing & Dangerous Falling Between Eras11:47 – Run-DMC, LL Cool J & Hip Hop Challenging MJ’s Image14:59 – Dangerous Era Collaborations (Heavy D, Wreckx-N-Effect)18:31 – HIStory Era: “We’re Still on the Same Track”22:22 – Michael, Janet & Biggie at the VMAs23:20 – Michael Jackson on Hip Hop (VIBE 2001 Interview)27:25 – Listener Voicemails: Favorite MJ Hip Hop Collaborations31:35 – Notorious BIG on Invincible & Unbreakable34:15 – Was Biggie’s Verse “Never Heard Before”?38:22 – Biggie’s Bars on MJ Songs (Lyric Breakdown)42:00 – The Lil’ Kim Collaboration That Never Happened46:10 – Pharrell, The Neptunes & “Super Thug”49:41 – Could Michael Have Pulled Off Neptunes Beats?54:55 – Michael & Hip Hop Dance56:20 – The Moonwalk Debate1:08:30 – Final TakeawaysJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl
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56. How REAL Michael Jackson Collections Are Built (Autographs & Rarities) featuring Michael Jackson Market
this is an older episode but worth listening to, as it was a previous Youtube only episode! Today we have an exclusive interview with one of the most trusted names in Michael Jackson collecting.In this video, I sit down with Jonathan, owner of MJ Market, to go inside the world of Michael Jackson memorabilia, from rare collectibles to the hard truth about autograph authenticity.We break down how serious collectors authenticate Michael Jackson autographs, what separates real memorabilia from fakes, and why certain items hold long-term value while others don’t. Jonathan shares real-world experience from the collector market, including common mistakes fans make and what to look for before spending serious money.Whether you’re just starting your collection or already deep in the hobby, this conversation will help you collect smarter, avoid costly errors, and understand what truly makes Michael Jackson memorabilia valuable.Visit michaeljacksonmarket.com and get money off your first order using code MJFANGIRL . Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify "Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast"Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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55. Michael Jackson: Fact, Fiction, and the Myths That Won’t Die, with Elizabeth Amisu
Michael Jackson is one of the most misunderstood artists in history. In this episode, MJ scholar Elizabeth Amisu joins mjfangirl to help separate fact from decades of myths about his songwriting, dancing, business decisions, and creative genius.Michael Jackson ACADEMIC STUDIES COURSES with Elizabeth Amisu: https://onlineartseducation.co.uk/course/dangerous-philosophies-of-michael-jackson-online-course/https://elizabethamisu.com/From claims that Michael didn’t write his own music, to the idea that others created his sound, to persistent misunderstandings about the moonwalk, Thriller, and his role as a businessman, this conversation takes a closer look at what’s actually true (and why so many myths continue to circulate today)!Elizabeth Amisu, author of The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson, brings an academic lens to Michael’s creative process, musicianship, choreography, and legacy. Together, we examine how tabloid narratives, oversimplification, and cultural bias have shaped public perception, often overshadowing Michael’s innovation, discipline, and artistic intelligence.This episode also explores why Thriller was not an overnight success, how Michael approached songwriting and arrangement, the difference between inventing and popularizing dance moves, and why his business decisions including music publishing, changed the industry forever.With the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic bringing renewed attention to his life and work, this is the perfect moment to revisit the facts, challenge long-held assumptions, and understand Michael Jackson beyond the myths.TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Why Michael Jackson is so misunderstood01:18 – Separating fact from decades of MJ myths04:32 – “Michael Jackson didn’t write his own songs” - DEBUNKED08:42 – Solomon’s firsthand story recording “Can You Feel It” with Michael11:15 – Did Quincy Jones create Michael Jackson's sound?22:15 – Musicianship without reading music26:40 – The moonwalk: invention vs. popularization28:55 – Why that Motown 25 moment changed everything30:00 – Michael Jackson Academic Courses35:05 – How Michael strategically built Thriller’s legacy45:00 – The Beatles catalog myth51:30 – The biopic and Michael’s lasting legacy✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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54. Michael Jackson Dancer & BODY DOUBLE Ricko Baird REVEALS the TRUTH on You Rock My World & More
In this episode of Club 30s with mjfangirl, we’re going behind the scenes with Ricko Baird, one of the select dancers who worked closest with Michael Jackson — including serving as MJ’s body double in You Rock My World and performing with him in the Michael Jackson & Friends shows. Ricko opens up about the shocking truth behind moments fans have never heard about before: being chosen out of more than 3,000 dancers to perform with Michael, what really happened during the Earth Song bridge collapse, how the choreography for You Rock My World changed on set, and which moments weren’t actually Michael on camera. He also talks about the intensity Michael brought to rehearsals, the experience of becoming “Adult MJ” in Thriller Live, and how all of these experiences shaped his transition into creating his own music today. If you love Michael Jackson, behind-the-scenes stories, early-2000s short films, or rare insights from the dancers who helped bring MJ’s visions to life, this interview is packed with details you won’t want to miss.Make sure to check out Ricko’s music at rickobaird.com and support his independent artistry. Follow him on Facebook at Ricko Baird and Instagram @ricko_baird TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Introduction: Who is Ricko Baird?02:24 — Early Life, Training & Becoming a Professional Dancer04:09 — Landing His First Big Jobs & Moving to L.A.05:00 — The Nerve-wracking Day Michael Jackson Walked Into Rehearsal07:14 — Dancing Right Beside Michael Jackson08:12 — Auditioning for Michael Jackson & Friends 09:58 — Traveling with MJ: Seoul, Munich & Experiencing MJ Mania11:26 — Dangerous Live Clip Reaction & The Iconic “Flip” Moment13:30 — What Michael Was Like in Rehearsal vs. Onstage15:00 — Backstage at MJ Shows: Focus, Intensity & Perfection17:20 — Earth Song, The Bridge Collapse & What Really Happened19:10 — The Aftermath: Was Michael Hurt? What Did the Crew Do?25:44 — You Rock My World: How Ricko Got the Call27:30 — On Set with MJ, Chris Tucker & Marlon Brando29:36 — The Dance Sequence: What Got Cut & What Fans Never Saw32:31 — Ricko Reveals When He Was MJ’s Body Double36:00 — The Movement Study: Matching Michael’s Style Perfectly39:02 — Becoming “Adult Michael” in Thriller Live41:50 — Touring the World as Michael in London & International Shows46:00 — Ricko’s Transition Into a Solo Recording Artist48:00 — Inside His Album Frequency & the Vision Behind the Music50:00 — Music Video “Believe” Clip + Creative Process54:00 — Ricko Baird's Music53:15 — One Michael Jackson Moment Fans Would Be Shocked to Know56:25 — Final Thoughts + Where to Follow Ricko Baird✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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53. the UNTOLD stories of Jackson 5's REAL Journey to Motown with Mother Diva
In today’s episode, I sit down with the incredible Mother Diva to explore the rarely told, deeply important history of Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5. From their early days in Gary, Indiana to the years of grinding through Chicago’s music scene before Motown ever opened its doors. Mother Diva shares exclusive stories about the Jackson family’s earliest performances, the real origins of the Jackson 5 name, their first recordings at Steeltown, the truth behind Motown rejecting them eight times, and the powerful role Chicago played in developing their sound.00:00 – Welcome + Introducing Mother Diva01:08 – Mother Diva’s background in Chicago & MJ community work02:09 – “Supporter vs Fan” and how advocacy shaped her MJ mission03:19 – The REAL early history of Michael Jackson & the Jackson family06:03 – How the Jackson Brothers formed in Gary, Indiana11:40 – How Tito’s guitar incident changed everything for the group14:55 – The TRUE origin of the name “Jackson 5”17:02 – Chicago’s Regal Theater era & early talent show domination21:05 – Big Boy, Steeltown Records & the first Jackson 5 record deal26:12 – Motown rejects the Jackson 5 eight times?! What really happened34:30 – Quincy Jones, Chicago roots & guiding Michael’s early genius44:50 – Street dancers, the backslide & how the “moonwalk” got its name48:55 – Honoring the Jackson legacy: holidays, activism & community events55:25 – Where to follow and support Mother Diva + closing✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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52. BAD Tour in Japan! One Fan's Capture of NEVER-Before-Seen Moments
Michael Jackson’s Bad Tour in Japan (1987) was the beginning of a new era and his first-ever solo world tour. In this episode, we take a deep dive into how Japan became the launchpad for Michael Jackson’s global domination during the Bad era. From his sold-out shows in Tokyo, Yokohama, and Osaka to the passionate energy of Japanese fans, this is where Michael’s evolution as a solo performer truly came to life.Later in the episode, we’re joined by illustrator/photographer Sharon Robinson, who shares her unbelievable story of capturing rare Bad Tour photos, and later giving them to Michael Jackson himself. She reveals what it was like to witness MJ’s magic up close... from the adrenaline of those first Japan shows to the unforgettable energy inside the Tokyo Dome in 1988.If you’re a fan of Michael Jackson’s live performances, Bad era style, or just love hearing behind-the-scenes stories from those who were there, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Timestamps00:00 – Intro: Why the Bad Tour in Japan is legendary01:00 – Michael Jackson’s connection to Japan02:30 – The energy of MJ’s first solo tour04:00 – Eddie Garcia’s story: “Go out there and hurt ‘em!”06:15 – How Japan shaped the Bad Tour08:20 – Michael Jackson's influence & Japanese fan culture10:00 – The full Bad Tour Japan setlist14:00 – Backstage Bad Tour moments and tour prep17:00 – Live singing, dancing, and chemistry20:30 – The magic of “Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)”21:00 – Guest interview with Sharon Robinson23:00 – How Sharon captured Michael Jackson live30:00 – Giving her photos to MJ himself40:00 – The 1988 Tokyo Dome shows50:00 – Legacy of the Bad Tour & unseen MJ momentsJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl
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51. MICHAEL (2026) Teaser, reacting to JAAFAR JACKSON as Michael Jackson in new BIOPIC!
the Michael Jackson 2026 biopic teaser trailer is HEREEEEE! Fun times! Randall joins us today for a FIRST REACTION to the MICHAEL Jackson Biopic trailer. The biopic will release in April 24 2026 and we cannot wait! This chat will be our reaction to the MICHAEL 2026 trailer and also a discussion of some MICHAEL TRAILER Easter Eggs that only fans will know and appreciate!Follow randall @ therocfiles and @ rocsmocs on socials.Watch Randall in Season 2 of Lego Masters & on the Holiday Lego Bricktacular, streaming on HULU. ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected] Jackson biopic, MJ 2026, Michael Jackson trailer reaction, MJ legacy, King of Pop, Michael Jackson movie trailer explained
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50. Interview- Ola Ray Reflects on Life After Thriller, Michael Jackson, and Finding Faith
Get Ola's Book- The Thrill of It All: https://amzn.to/4huLFrBFollow Ola Ray: www.olaray.comToday I fulfilled a lifelong dream, getting to sit down with Ola Ray, the leading lady and "Thriller girl" from Michael Jackson’s legendary Thriller short film. In this episode of mjfangirl, we dive into Ola Ray’s incredible journey, from her early days growing up in St. Louis and modeling in Japan, to breaking barriers as a Playboy centerfold, and landing the role alongside Michael Jackson in Thriller, that would make her part of music history. Ola opens up about her unforgettable memories with Michael Jackson on the Thriller set, how their real chemistry brought the story to life, and more. Ola also shares her powerful testimony of overcoming, finding healing through faith, and writing her memoir “The Thrill of It All.” This is a deep, emotional conversation about fame, survival, and the divine timing that brought her full circle. Listen as Ola Ray reflects on the magic of Thriller, the joy and humanity of Michael Jackson, and the strength it takes to rise again. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Ola Ray’s Introduction & Early Dreams02:30 Growing Up Between St. Louis, California, and Japan05:30 Becoming a Model and Performer in Tokyo06:30 Breaking Barriers as a Playboy Centerfold10:30 How Playboy Led to Thriller for Ola Ray12:00 Meeting John Landis and Landing the Role 14:30 Behind the Scenes of Filming Thriller19:30 Real Chemistry with Ola Ray & Michael Jackson25:00 Michael Singing Live on Set32:00 Michael’s Humor, Perfectionism, and Playful Side34:00 Thriller Breaking Racial Barriers on MTV36:30 Inside the Star-Studded Thriller Premiere40:00 Life After Thriller: Fame, Temptation, and Hollywood’s Dark Side45:00 Healing and Finding Faith49:00 Writing Her Memoir “The Thrill of It All”52:30 Memories of Michael Jackson and His Love for Fans55:00 Closing Reflections & Ola Ray’s Message of Hope✩mjfangirl Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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49. Starr Hayes talks 30+ Years with Michael Jackson | Rare Stories from a fan turned friend
In this exclusive interview, lifelong fan Starr Hayes shares her incredible journey from being a young Jackson 5 fan to becoming a close friend of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. Hear never-before-told stories about meeting the Jacksons, growing up alongside Michael, and witnessing his rise from Motown to Thriller fame. Starr opens up about the real Michael — his humor, kindness, intelligence, and deep humanity.✨ If you love Michael Jackson, the Jackson 5, or rare fan stories, this episode is a must-listen!00:00 – Becoming Friends with Michael Jackson: Starr Hayes’ Story02:30 – First Time Hearing the Jackson 5’s “I Want You Back”04:00 – Manifesting a Meeting with Michael Jackson06:15 – Meeting the Jackson Family for the First Time10:00 – Growing Up with Michael: From Fan to Family Friend16:00 – Inside Michael Jackson’s World: Bob Jones & Behind-the-Scenes Drama23:30 – What Michael Jackson Was Really Like in Person33:00 – Legacy, Faith & Funny Memories That Keep Michael’s Spirit Alive__________✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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48. Chatty Q&A: My MJ Fandom, First Concerts & Life in LA
Hey fam! 💜 Grab a snack and get comfy because today’s video is a super chatty Q&A and reintroduction. I’ve been on YouTube for almost 8 years (!!) and thought it was the perfect time to share a little more about me, my Michael Jackson fan story, and life outside of YouTube. In this video, I’ll talk about how I first fell in love with Michael Jackson, the story of my very first Michael Jackson concert experience (yes, I actually saw him LIVE 😭), and how my journey shifted from being a superfan to a Michael Jackson historian. I’ll also share some of my personal favorites—from music and books to podcasts and more—so you can get to know me beyond just the channel.If you’re new here, WELCOME! And if you’ve been riding with me since the early days, thank you so much for being part of this amazing MJ Fangirl community. 💜 Don’t forget to drop a comment with YOUR own Michael Jackson fandom journey—I’d love to hear it! 💜[00:00] Intro – Chatty reintroduction video[01:10] How I first became a Michael Jackson fan[02:20] Discovering The Jacksons true story: An American Dream movie [03:30] Seeing Michael Jackson live in 2001 (Invincible era concert) 🎤[04:50] Little-known Michael Jackson story: Smooth Criminal & The Bandwagon[06:40] Balancing being a Michael Jackson superfan vs historian[08:20] Why I don’t go to as many MJ fan events anymore[10:00] Hayvenhurst vlog + King of Popcorn event 🎬[11:15] What I’d say if I ever met Michael Jackson[12:20] Dream Michael Jackson concerts I’d time travel to[15:00] First ever concert experience (not Michael Jackson)[16:20] Childhood memories that shaped me as a creator[18:00] Favorite music & artists outside of Michael Jackson 🎶[19:40] Life outside YouTube: Peloton, podcasts & family life[22:00] My reading obsession + favorite book apps (Libby & Audible)[26:30] My Elvis Presley phase 📚 (and Lisa Marie Presley’s memoir)[30:30] Lessons from other fan communities (Elvis vs Michael Jackson fandoms)[33:20] Is the Michael Jackson fan community united or divided today?[36:10] Thoughts on Michael Jackson’s posthumous albums (Xscape & Michael)[38:20] Handling criticism as a Michael Jackson fan online[40:40] Why I continue creating Michael Jackson content today ✨Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#47- Michael Jackson’s 30th Anniversary: Memories from the Front Row featuring Reva T
Welcome back everyone! Longtime Michael Jackson fan Reva returns to share her unforgettable experience at the 30th Anniversary Celebration concerts in 2001. From securing tickets through the official fan club to being front row at Madison Square Garden, Reva takes us inside the energy, emotion, and history of Michael’s final U.S. concert performances.She also recounts camping out overnight in New York City to meet Michael at the Invincible album signing—a once-in-a-lifetime moment that highlights just how deeply Michael cared for his fans.✨ Highlights from this episode:How fans secured front row seats through Michael’s fan clubThe Jacksons’ on-stage reunion and iconic guest performances (Whitney Houston, Britney Spears, Usher & more)Behind-the-scenes fan stories you won’t see in the TV broadcastMichael’s first-ever live performance of You Rock My World and a legendary Billie Jean momentWhat it was like meeting Michael at the Invincible album signing in Times SquareTIMESTAMPS00:00 – Reva returns: her Michael Jackson fandom & fan club days02:37 – How fans got front row tickets for the 30th Anniversary Celebration09:55 – The Jacksons’ reunion & celebrity guest highlights (Whitney, Britney, Usher & more)18:46 – Emotional memories & once-in-a-lifetime moments from the shows23:30 – Behind-the-scenes stories: filming, mishaps & Michael’s magic on stage29:56 – You Rock My World debut + legendary Billie Jean performance35:30 – Camping out for Michael Jackson’s Invincible album signing42:00 – Meeting Michael face-to-face & reflecting on his lasting legacy✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#46- Michael Jackson BIOPIC- a FANTASY fairytale or TRUTH untold? FANS SOUND OFF!
Today I discuss fan reactions to Paris Jackson’s recent comments about the forthcoming Michael Jackson biopic. I also share some of my own thoughts and hopes for the movie. ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#45- Is Michael Jackson’s Xscape a Posthumous MASTERPIECE? Let's talk about it.
In this episode of Club 30s, MJFangirl teams up with longtime friend Randall for a deep dive into Michael Jackson’s 2014 posthumous album Xscape. From unreleased vault tracks to Timbaland’s contemporary production, we break down the album’s creation, standout songs, chart performance, and how it compares to other posthumous projects.We also look at the fan reception, the infamous 2014 Billboard Music Awards hologram performance, and what Xscape means for Michael’s overall legacy. Whether you loved it, hated it, or still aren’t sure — this episode brings history, fan insight, and behind-the-scenes stories together for the ultimate Xscape discussion.
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#44- Interview- Big Al on 15 Years at NEVERLAND
So grateful for the opportunity to chat with Big Al! It really meant a lot to have AL IN STUDIO- so I want to extend my gratitude to him for coming on the show to chat in person! :) In this episode, we dive into the incredible experiences of Big Al, Allan Scanlan, the amusement park and railroad manager at Michael Jackson's Neverland Valley Ranch. Over the course of his 15-year tenure, Big Al shares fascinating stories about managing the rides and daily operations at Neverland, his personal interactions with Michael Jackson, and the numerous humanitarian events hosted there. We also explore Michael's favorite amusement park rides, unique friendships, and touching memories that showcase his kindness and humanitarianism. TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Meet Big Al, Neverland’s Ride Manager01:00 – Michael Jackson Describes Neverland in His Own Words02:00 – How Big Al Got the Job at Neverland03:30 – Daily Life Managing the Rides & Trains04:50 – The First Time Big Al Met Michael Jackson06:20 – Water Balloon Fights with MJ07:00 – The Katherine Steam Train & Tribute to Katherine Jackson09:30 – Neverland Was Always Evolving12:00 – How Big Was Neverland Valley Ranch?17:00 – The Truth About MJ’s Charity Work22:30 – Rare Look Inside the Ranch: Rooms, Piano & Decor27:00 – MJ’s Favorite Rides at Neverland36:00 – When MJ Wanted a Roller Coaster at Home39:30 – Where Are Neverland’s Rides Now?40:00 – Filming the Michael Biopic at Neverland Valley Ranch44:00 – What Neverland Meant to MJ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#43- Interview- Hakim Abdulsamad of The Boys talks filming BADDER from Moonwalker
In this episode, we dive into the illustrious career of Hakim Abdulsamad, also known as Hakeem from the legendary 90s Motown group, The Boys. I really loved diving into Hakim's unique perspective on being a child star as well as the moments he shared about being with MJJ. Hakim is a celebrated artist, songwriter, and music producer. As a part of The Boys, Hakim and his brothers shot to stardom and were known for hits like 'Dial My Heart' and 'Lucky Charm.' Hakeem shares his experiences as a child star, later producing music for legends such as Shanice, Tevin Campbell, Wizkid, and Akon, as well as playing a fun role in Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. Listen as Hakim reminisces about his early days, the journey of The Boys, their signing with Motown, and the highs and challenges of fame at a young age. He also offers insightful reflections on working with Michael Jackson and the lasting inspiration MJ provided. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction to Today's Episode00:03 Hakeem Abdul Samad's Early Career02:05 The Boys' Rise to Fame05:18 Experiencing Stardom as a Child10:32 The Dynamics of Being in a Sibling Group14:58 Transitioning Away from the Music Industry18:58 Working with Michael Jackson on Moonwalker32:38 Memories from Gardner Elementary Auditorium dedication36:15 Michael's Inspirational Pep Talk39:10 Michael Jackson's Influence and Legacy01:03:05 Hakeem's Current Projects and Future Plans✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#42- Interview- FRANZ HARARY Reflects on 26 Years of Friendship & Magic with Michael Jackson
Legendary illusionist Franz Harary reflects on his 26-year friendship with Michael Jackson, sharing never-before-heard stories from the Victory and HIStory tours, working on magic for Neverland Ranch, and the advice Michael gave him that changed his life. In this in-depth interview, Franz takes us behind the scenes of designing illusions for the King of Pop, from their very first meeting to the trick that almost went horribly wrong. If you're a fan of Michael Jackson, live performance, or creative storytelling — this is a must-watch.Timestamps:00:00 – Making Magic with Michael Jackson: Meet Franz Harary03:30 – How Franz Began working for Michael Jackson and became a friend06:50 – Designing Michael Jackson’s First Illusion for the Victory Tour10:45 – Michael Jackson at the Movies: Disguises, Gremlins & a Surprise Comic12:15 – The Secret Magic Hidden in Neverland Ranch18:30 – The Spiker Illusion & Michael Jackson’s Last-Minute Creative Call23:55 – How Michael Jackson’s Advice Helped Franz Harary43:18 – The Biggest Misconception Fans Have About Michael Jackson44:55 – Franz Harary’s Fondest Memory of Michael Jackson🔗 More from Franz Harary:Website: https://www.franzharary.comInstagram: @franzhararyJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#41- inside the BRAND NEW museum, MJJ5 Exhibit with Vernay and Ryan O'Neal
If you're a Michael Jackson fan, this episode is a must-listen! I’m joined by Vernay and Ryan O’Neal — two superfans who’ve opened one of the largest Michael Jackson exhibits in the world: the MJJ5 Exhibit, now on display at the Showboat Hotel in Atlantic City.We talk about:How they started collecting rare Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson memorabiliaWhat you’ll see inside the exhibit — including Neverland Ranch flags, Tito’s guitar, and a custom MJ One sound systemTheir incredible stories of meeting the Jackson familyWhy they’re preserving this legacy as longtime collectors and fansMJJ5 ExhibitShowboat Hotel Main Level801 BoardwalkAtlantic City, NJ 08401Tuesday-Sunday 11:00am- 7:00pm daily (closed Mondays)📲 Follow them on Instagram @mjj5exhibit🎟️ TikTok @mjj5exhibit2025DISCOUNT FOR SUBSCRIBERS- The MJJ5 exhibit is open through August 31, 2025 at the Showboat Hotel. If you mention “MJFangirl” at the door, you’ll get $10 admission :)TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Intro: A rare Michael Jackson exhibit opens in Atlantic City01:34 – What’s inside the MJJ5 Exhibit 04:26 – How Vernay and Ryan started collecting Michael Jackson memorabilia06:55 – Why they opened the Michael Jackson exhibit to the public — emotional fan reactions10:59 – The story behind Michael Jackson’s MJ One sound system13:18 – Meeting the Jackson family & a heartfelt moment with Tito Jackson18:45 – Displaying rare Jackson 5 and solo era magazines by decade21:05 – Neverland Ranch flags and stories from visits to Neverland25:02 – Why the Jacksons' legacy matters just as much as Michael Jackson’s solo career33:00 – Why the Showboat Hotel was the perfect home for the exhibitJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#40- How To Study Michael Jackson Like a Scholar (Even If You’re Just a Fan) with Elizabeth Amisu
In this episode, MJfangirl discusses the growing acceptance of Michael Jackson studies as a serious academic field with Elizabeth Amisu, an author and PhD candidate in Michael Jackson studies. We dig into Amisu's book, 'The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson,' along with other recommended readings that examine Michael Jackson's artistic and cultural impact. Topics include the significance of Jackson's Oxford speech, the cultural and musical legacy he left behind, and the importance of acknowledging his African American heritage. They also discuss the current state and future potential of Michael Jackson academic studies, encouraging listeners to contribute to preserving his legacy.Related Links:Get Elizabeth's Book: https://amzn.eu/d/4tMjNBnhttps://michaeljacksonstudies.org/https://elizabethamisu.com/TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro: Can You Get a PhD in Michael Jackson?00:43 - Meet Elizabeth Amisu: Author, Scholar, MJ Expert02:00 - Why We Should Study Michael Jackson Seriously05:52 - What Is the Journal of Michael Jackson Academic Studies?08:13 - How MJ Was Overlooked in Academia Before 200911:19 - How Instinct vs. Intellect Framed MJ’s Image13:05 - Book #1: Dangerous by Susan Fast (Album Analysis)18:52 - Book #2: The Dangerous Philosophies by Elizabeth Amisu22:12 - Why There Were So Few Serious MJ Books?29:05 - Michael Jackson’s Oxford Speech (and why it matters)33:19 - Book #3: Man in the Music by Joseph Vogel38:24 - Book #4: MJ and the Quandary of Black Identity by Sherrow O Pinder43:40 - Book #5: Making Michael by Mike Smallcombe47:23 - What It’s Like Getting a PhD in MJ Studies50:57 - Final Thoughts: How Fans Can Help Preserve MJ’s LegacyJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#39- Reflections on the Legacy of a Legend & Who Inspired Michael Jackson with my dad
In this special episode, MJFangirl dives deep into the influences that shaped the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, with the help of her dad, a lifelong music enthusiast. They explore the impact of legendary entertainers like Sammy Davis Jr., Jackie Wilson, and James Brown on Michael's career. Through personal anecdotes and rare clips, they paint a vivid picture of how these icons inspired Michael to become a global sensation. Join us for an insightful journey through music history and discover the roots of Michael Jackson's extraordinary talent.00:00 Introduction to Michael Jackson's Influences00:34 A Father's Influence and Early Memories06:55 Michael Jackson's Concert Legacy10:33 The Iconic Motown 25 Performance21:29 Sammy Davis Jr.: A Major Influence32:03 Reflecting on the Legacy of a Legend32:41 The Jackson 5's Impact and Longevity33:25 Tribute to Sammy Davis Jr.36:28 Michael Jackson's Inspirations: Jackie Wilson46:31 Michael Jackson's Inspirations: James Brown57:59 Michael Jackson's Humanitarian Legacy01:02:14 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#38- HIStory 30- A celebration of Michael Jackson's HIStory album with Chris Lacy
In this episode, we talk to Chris Lacy about his article, celebrating the 30th anniversary of Michael Jackson's HIStory album. LINK: Michael Jackson’s ‘HIStory’ Turns 30: Scream. Survive. Smile. https://chrislacy1990.medium.com/michael-jacksons-history-turns-30-scream-survive-smile-3c6bb690c511In honor of the 30th anniversary of HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I, we're diving deep into Michael Jackson’s most personal and politically charged album. Joined by writer Chris Lacy, we reflect on the album’s legacy, chart-topping success, and powerful themes—from social justice and media scrutiny to pain, perseverance, and purpose. Together, we explore why HIStory still resonates today and why the Estate’s silence around this milestone feels especially significant.Chris opens up about his creative process behind his article, what inspired it, and more, including fan favorite tracks “Tabloid Junkie,” “Smile,” and "Stranger in Moscow". ALSO- The Michael Jackson biopic, originally set to release in 2025, has reportedly been delayed until next year, this episode, we react to the latest update about the Michael film starring Jaafar Jackson and directed by Antoine Fuqua. What do you think is really going on with Michael, the Michael Jackson biopic? Do you think the delay is because of the reshoots... or is the project going to be delayed to be SPLIT into two films? Let’s talk-- I’m reading and responding to your thoughts in the comments! ALSO- this JUNE... Watch this space for new and meaningful MJ videos all month for Black Music Month – subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next.Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#37- Michael Jackson's BAD ERA Was Personal: Identity, Pressure, and the Prince DUET that Never Happened | featuring Justin Marlowe
Buy Justin Marlowe's book: Perfect Strangers: Echoes of a Black Suburban Youth https://amzn.to/43nSZA7✨ Join us all month long on MJFANGIRL as we honor Black Music Month with powerful conversations that celebrate the legacy, impact, and artistry of Michael Jackson. ✨In this episode, we dive deep into Michael Jackson’s BAD era. Featuring special guest and author Justin Marlowe, we explore MJ's influences, his identity journey, and how BAD was more than a song, short film, and album... It was a statement. TIMESTAMPS:00:00 – MJ Reinvents Himself with BADMichael Jackson BAD reinvention, MJ BAD era, post-Thriller MJ05:00 – Why “Bad” Wasn’t the First SingleMJ single release order, Bad album facts, MJ track list10:00 – The Duet That Never Happened: MJ vs. PrinceMJ vs Prince, Prince Bad duet, MJ Quincy Prince meeting15:00 – Genreless Genius: MJ’s Musical EvolutionMJ musical style, MJ genre blend, MJ beyond pop20:00 – Why “Give In to Me” Might Be MJ’s Best SongGive In to Me MJ, MJ underrated songs, MJ best deep cuts25:00 – The Edmund Perry Story & Short Film OriginsMJ short film inspiration, Edmund Perry Bad, MJ video backstory30:00 – Michael’s Most Vulnerable Performance?MJ acting in BAD, MJ vulnerability, MJ Wesley Snipes scene35:00 – Black Identity & Growing Up in SuburbiaMJ Black identity, MJ and race40:00 – Liberian Girl, Smooth Criminal & Studio StoriesMJ studio secrets, Quincy vs MJ, Liberian Girl meaning45:00 – Final Thoughts on the Legacy of BADMJ BAD impact, BAD tour, BAD legacy breakdown🔗 **Get Justin Marlowe’s Book: Perfect Strangers: Echoes of a Black Suburban Youth: https://amzn.to/43nSZA7🎧 **Listen to full episodes on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Amazon💬 **Join the conversation: What’s YOUR favorite track from BAD?#MichaelJackson #BlackMusicMonth _______________________________________________________Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#36- Interview- Eddie Garcia Reflects on Dancing with Michael Jackson (Bad & Dangerous Tours & More)
Today I am interviewing the amazing Eddie Garcia! He danced with the King of Pop for years, was a principal dancer on the Bad and Dangerous tours and appeared in short films from Smooth Criminal to Speed Demon, and the Super Bowl. Now, Eddie Garcia shares what it was really like touring the world with Michael Jackson and MORE. TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Dancing beside Michael Jackson: Meet Eddie Garcia 01:50 – Eddie’s early career and Janet Jackson connections 04:00 – Almost cast in Captain EO at 14 06:00 – Getting the job on Smooth Criminal 08:30 – First conversation with Michael Jackson 10:00 – Behind-the-scenes of Smooth Criminal 14:00 – Realism in performance: Acting, props & character work 17:00 – Working with real gang members on “The Way You Make Me Feel” 19:00 – Joining the Bad Tour at 18 years old 22:00 – First Bad Tour performance nerves and MJ’s inspiring advice 24:00 – The Mohawk story & Mad Max stage persona 26:30 – How the Bad Tour evolved after Japan 29:00 – Rehearsals and solo performance in front of Michael 33:30 – Michael’s hands-on feedback and intense rehearsal process 36:00 – Dangerous Tour breakdown & magic trick mishap 42:30 – Fan rushes the stage – how security reacted 47:30 – The fan girl who slapped a bodyguard and fainted 50:00 – MJ’s struggle with touring – rare insight from his private tapes 54:00 – Hanging out with Bubbles the chimp 🐵 56:30 – Why “Remember the Time” was never performed on tour 59:00 – Teaching the next generation of dancers This episode is for:Michael Jackson fans (especially Bad and Dangerous era lovers)Dance students and performersFans of Eddie Garcia or 80s/90s pop cultureAspiring choreographersAnyone curious about behind-the-scenes music video & tour storiesOld-school MTV-era short film enthusiastsPeople who love hearing rare celebrity insights from those who were there✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram & Facebook: @mjfangirlblogYoutube: mjfangirltvPatreon: patreon.com/mjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#35 - The WIZ back in theaters in 4K , Heaven Can Wait Goes Viral, & Dear Fangirl *ADVICE for new fans*
Today we chat about some current news such as the WIZ coming back to theaters on May 18 and 21 here in the US, Heaven Can Wait trending, and we chat about some Dear Fangirl letters and give our advice to new fans. Submit a letter for Dear Fangirl: https://forms.gle/gSNHUf4sy3pn5idn8Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#34- REMEMBER THE TIME-a Cultural Moment! deep dive featuring Black Jackson Estate & Randall
Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl TIMESTAMPS:0:30 BLACK JACKSON ESTATE PODCAST & RANDALL5:00 PREMIERE OF REMEMBER THE TIME10:30 TEDDY RILEY & NEW JACK SWING ON DANGEROUS 17:17 LYRICS & MEANING19:45 INSPIRED BY DIANA ROSS32:00 PERFORMANCES OF REMEMBER THE TIME33:50 REMEMBER THE TIME AT SOUL TRAIN AWARDS38:00 TECHNOLOGY USED40:00 EDDIE MURPHY46:00 THE MISSING HEADDRESS56:35 BECOMING A CROSSOVER ARTIST & THE BLACK COMMUNITY1:06:46 FATIMA ROBINSON CHOREOGRAPHY1:16:00 FINAL THOUGHTSShow notes: Released on January 14, 1992, REMEMBER THE TIME stands as a landmark in Michael Jackson’s musical evolution. As the second single from his Dangerous album, the song represents Jackson’s deliberate shift from the sound of Quincy Jones to the style of new jack swing. Co-written and produced with Teddy Riley and Bernard Belle, the track achieved both commercial and critical success, peaking at #3 on the Billboard Hot 100 and reaching #1 on the R&B chart. In this video, we also discuss the Remember the Time short film that accompanied the single, which premiered on FOX in February 1992. Directed by John Singleton, the then-24-year-old filmmaker behind *Boyz n the Hood*, the film was a stylized portrayal of ancient Egypt featuring an all-Black cast, including Eddie Murphy, Iman, and Magic Johnson. The project was a groundbreaking celebration of Black royalty and cultural heritage, realized through elaborate costume design, choreography by Fatima Robinson, and pioneering visual effects. The film employed early morphing CGI technology and high-concept cinematography, making it one of the most innovative music videos of its time._____✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared#michaeljackson #musicpodcast #rememberthetime ✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/Mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#33 - Michael Jackson "Another Part of Me" Deep Dive (PLUS Biopic Updates) featuring Chris Lacy
This episode is a DEEP DIVE into Another Part of Me - a song and short film from Michael Jackson 's BAD Album. We will discuss the lyrics, the origin and recording, the short film, as well as live performances of the song on the Bad tour. ALSO- Will MJ make HISTORY again with a 2 part BIOPIC? Let's chat about this upcoming 2025 MICHAEL JACKSON MOVIE. The movie was originally to come out in April 2025 and now it's been pushed to october 2025 and POSSIBLY will be a 2 part BIOPIC. Why will the Michael Jackson Movie be split into 2 parts? According to sources like Variety, the runtime is 4 hours, being WAY too long for a movie theatre run, and they have a lot of music to cover. Reshoots have also been reported. I am open to whatever works and I will be at the theatre but, wanted to discuss this recent development with my friend Chris Lacy.Follow Chris Lacy @ chrislacy1990----------------------------------TIMESTAMPSTIMESTAMPS1:00 Intro to Chris Lacy 5:00 Origin and Recording of Another Part of Me11:00 Captain EO17:50 Another Part of Me vs Streetwalker23:10 The Live Version of the Song/ Bad Tour 32:40 The Short Film43:30 Michael Jackson Biopic UpdatesImagine getting more MJFANGIRL content - access a library of storytimes, ad free unedited studio videos, and reaction videos! join patreon for exclusive weekly content - patreon.com/mjfangirl✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#32- Storytime- I Flew to Japan to meet Michael Jackson
In this video, I talk about my experience almost meeting Michael Jackson. As a fan this was my close encounter with Michael Jackson with the exception of seeing him live in concert in 2001. I flew to Japan to meet Michael Jackson In 2006 when he was there for the Japan MTV Awards to receieve the Legend Award and I THOUGHT it was my MOMENT to meet the King of Pop... what could go wrong? Listen to my story of how i ALMOST met my hero, the one and only Michael Jackson. Watch my storytime of seeing him in concert here: https://youtu.be/H4mrXx3tHZo?si=pqHoWklZ0gtXrI5CTIMESTAMPS: 1:02 Producer talks meeting Michael Jackson 4:46 Visiting Neverland Experience 6:23 MJFANGIRL's history with Japan 8:45 Arriving in Japan in 200626:15 Michael’s Red Carpet Appearance at the VMAs in 200635:05 MJ’s Speech at Japan VMAs 45:20 Join mjfangirl PatreonHave you ever had a close encounter with the King of Pop!l?! Imagine getting more MJFANGIRL content - access a library of storytimes, ad free unedited studio videos, and reaction videos! join patreon for exclusive weekly content - patreon.com/mjfangirl✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#31- Michael Jackson UNPOPULAR OPINIONS... fans react!
Listen to all of the unpopular opinions from Michael Jackson fans and mjfangirl and randall react to some of the wildest thoughts from, what the best Michael Jackson song is, is Michael Jackson Billie Jean overrated, the Michael Jackson Invincible album doesn't get enough love, to thoughts on the Liberian Girl music video. Follow Randall @ therocfiles and check him out on Lego Masters Season 2 *now streaming on HULU*✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#30- how Michael Jackson changed our lives - fan discussion
Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's - www.patreon.com/mjfangirlRandall and mjfangirl discuss how Michael Jackson changed our lives. ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#29- Michael Jackson Biopic Actors Spill Tea, MJ's Manifesto, and the First 4 Motown Albums
In today's episode we touch on a variety of topics, all about Michael Jackson. Check the timestamps below:1:00 Introduction to new mjfangirl studio setup4:08 Michael Jackson Movie Actors Nia Long, Kat Graham, Coleman Domingo, Joseph David Jones16:20 Michael Jackson Got To Be There, Ben and More34:29 Did Michael Jackson Manifest becoming the King of Pop?_________________Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#28- Vincent Paterson talks Thriller, and Choreographing Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal, & more
Get Vincent’s Book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3DjnexS___________TIMESTAMPS0:33 Who is Vincent Paterson? Introduction2:10 Working on Beat it With Michael Jackson6:10 Dancing as a Zombie in Thriller 8:50 Michael Jackson's Energy in Rehearsal10:15 How Michael Jackson Learned Dance Choreography16:45 Michael Jackson Improvising in Smooth Criminal19:57 Inspiration behind Michael Jackson Lean21:16 How Michael Jackson did the Lean24:00 Original Ending of Smooth Criminal 26:30 Michael's Creative Ideas 31:10 Ladysmith Black Mambazo in Moonwalker33:40 Vincent Paterson's Icons & Instincts - Inspiration Behind the Book38:00 Becoming a Choreographer for Dancers and Actors 43:00 Vincent Paterson on MJ's Bad Tour Choreography49:00 How Michael Jackson's Halftime Show Made HIStory56:50 Blood On the Dance Floor- Inspiration behind the short film1:02:10 Working on Black or White 1:06:00 Michael's On Stage & On Camera Persona1:10:00 Unreleased Michael Jackson Behind the Scenes Footage1:13:30 A chat about the Michael Jackson Biopic 1:19:25 How Choreography Impacts Fans & Their LivesIf you ever wanted to know who created the dance sequence for Smooth Criminal, who choreographed Michael Jackson’s smooth criminal, how Michael Jackson did the lean in smooth criminal, and so much more about Michael Jackson’s dancing, you’re in for a real treat with today’s video! Award-winning Director and Choreographer Vincent Paterson has worked in nearly every genre of the entertainment industry, including film, theater, Broadway, concert tours, opera, music videos, television and commercials. He’s worked with Michael Jackson, Madonna, Bjork, Whitney Houston, Donna Summer, Van Halen, Paul McCartney & more. Vincent first appeared as a gang leader in the video for “Beat It” as well as a zombie dancer in “Thriller”. Original Thriller Zombie interview- right here with Vincent Paterson. He went on to choreograph & direct Michael Jackson’s first solo tour, the Bad Tour, as well as choreograph the videos for “Smooth Criminal” “The Way You Make Me Feel” “Black or White” and directed 1997’s “Blood on the Dance Floor”. Not to mention Vincent Paterson’s work on numerous other Michael Jackson appearances including the 1993 Superbowl Halftime Show and MTV10. His book Icons and Instincts: Choreographing and Directing Entertainment's Biggest Stars book was released in 2022 & it is Vincent’s autobiography and account of his life, many accomplishments and collaborations, & his journey within the world of dance. ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#27- "Childhood" by Michael Jackson - a mini deep dive into the song & short film
Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl this is a mini deep dive into the Michael Jackson song Childhood. where the video was recorded, the lyrical meaning of childhood and more!✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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26. The State of Elvis Presley vs Michael Jackson Fandom in 2025 with Those Elvis Girls
So excited to welcome Kristen and Benita of @ThoseElvisGirls to the show this week! Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley have much more in common than Lisa Marie Presley and being pop culture icons and KINGS (the King of Rock n Roll and the King of Pop). Both Elvis and Michael Jackson have fandoms that continue to grow and continue to invest millions of dollars each year in their posthumous art, make visits to their hollywood stars, and more. In this video, we chat the impact that a biopic like the Elvis Biopic can have on a fandom, things to know about Elvis' Graceland and why Michael Jackson doesn't currently have a place like Graceland and so much more. Subscribe to Those Elvis Girls: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHQnI7Ze9FdR6TcA4CQR9jAFollow Those Elvis Girls on IG: https://www.instagram.com/those.elvis.girls/Follow Those Elvis Girls on FB: https://www.facebook.com/ThoseElvisGirls/Timestamps:0:30 Introducing Those Elvis Girls Channel4:20 Posthumous projects from the Elvis Presley Estate & Michael Jackson Estate9:50 Christmas at Graceland Special11:00 Graceland Museum15:40 Why Michael Jackson Neverland isn't open to the public 24:11 Lisa Marie & Michael Jackson - details in Lisa Marie's Book 36:20 Elvis Fans- what the fandom is like and meeting Elvis Presley fans44:00 The Elvis Presley Biopic & it's impact on the Elvis Fandom51:25 Michael Jackson's 2025 Biopic fan Hopes & Predictions✩ Contact & Socials Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected] #elvispresley #michaeljackson #fandom
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#25- mjfangirl's fan story- opening up about *MY STORY* & hopes for the future
Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#24- Michael Jackson BIOPIC release pushed back ... AGAIN? Addressing the rumors
In this video, we discuss the latest rumors concerning the postponed release of the michael jackson biopic. ✩ Contact & Socials Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblog My amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl... Patreon: / mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast” Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#23- Michael Jackson Fans Make Playlists with Unreleased & Rare Tracks | with Chris Lacy
In this episode I am joined by Chris Lacy, journalist and hip-hop choreographer, to share our fan made Michael Jackson playlists. This playlist of Michael Jackson songs includes songs he never performed live, rare MJ tracks that were not released as singles, and tracks that we believe are underrated Michael Jacksons songs in general. We include tracks like Buttercup by the Jackson 5, Morphine by Michael Jackson, Why You Wanna Trip on Me and MORE! ‘Smooth Criminal’ Is Michael Jackson’s Best Short Film, Even If ‘Thriller’ Is the G.O.A.T.https://medium.com/@chrislacy1990/smooth-criminal-is-michael-jackson-s-best-short-film-even-if-thriller-is-the-g-o-a-t-1c8dd761af95 Michael Jackson’s ‘Dangerous’ Turns 30: Engaging Pop Culture Without Losing the Gospelhttps://thevioletreality.com/michael-jacksons-dangerous-turns-30-engaging-pop-culture-without-losing-the-gospel-3306fdc0fcce I’m Sorry, “Another Part of Me”: You’re Underratedhttps://medium.com/p/2423f11adca7✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont:https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon:patreon.com/mjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#22- Discussing Michael Jackson Remixes & Rarities with Randall
The best and the worst Michael Jackson remixes- let's chat about them all. We also discuss this rumor that Michael Jackson did not like remixes, why he didn't like remixes, and what the greatest FAN MADE MIXES are. We discuss the Michael Jackson remix album, Blood on the Dance Floor History in the Mix, as well as Michael Jackson remixes and rarities you may have never heard. Let us know in the comments about your favorite mixes today! Follow Randall @therocfiles Stream Lego Masters Season 2 on HULU & see him on Season 3 last episode (Holiday Bricktacular)___________________________Randall's Michael Jackson Remix Playlists:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUwzgpTBZeg&list=PLkyN4PrbW3PiqxHASsMpQI-RAsKPFYhhOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv99hwKHXHc&list=PLkyN4PrbW3PgvIIkakfQKEIGMDGhHHDOw___________________________________________TIMESTAMPS1:44 How we as MJ fans feel about remixes3:40 Michael Jackson did not like remixes- here's why6:00 Michael Jackson Remix Album Background Info9:00 The BOTDF Remixes vs originals12:00 How remixes were released during Michael Jackson's career19:00 Fan Favorite Michael Jackson Remixes- Official Mixes26:00 Fan-Made Remixes- Single White Glove, Eulonzo, Remixed by Nick, Groovefunkel etc35:00 Dear Fangirl - Toxicity within the Michael Jackson fan community42:00 Will the biopic show the real Michael Jackson ?DEAR FANGIRL shoutout- Thanks Denzel for your letter!Submit to Dear Fangirl: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Afj4xA0wwOGI9HqlLzsFO36rJ1_HmAXlYpd2MXc3a_M/editJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#21- Michael Jackson's KEY business MOVES (the media NEVER gave him credit for)
in today's episode we discuss Michael Jackson business deals, Michael Jackson the business man, and Michael Jackson business empire. Michael Jackson was not some fairytale peter pan figure, he was also a business man that made some key strategic moves that helped elevate him as an entertainer and as a career public figure. Michael Jackson not only purchased the Beatles AKA Sony ATV catalog but also purchased songs to give them back to other black artists ✩ Contact & Socials Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblog My amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblog Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast” Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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#20- Stranger in Moscow - a mini deep dive into Michael Jackson's MOST autobigraphical song
Michael Jackson's stranger in moscow is arguably his most autobiographical song. let's take a deep dive into stranger in moscow and talk about Michael Jackson and his creative process in writing this song. ✩ Contact & Socials Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblog My amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblog Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Mjfangirl Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast” Business Inquiries - [email protected]
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Club 30s with MJ Fangirl is the go-to podcast for Michael Jackson fans. Tune in for music deep dives, fan conversations, event reviews, and cultural analysis celebrating the King of Pop’s legacy. Featuring exclusive interviews with dancers, collaborators, and members of MJ’s inner circle, Club 30s offers rare stories and behind-the-scenes insights you won’t find anywhere else. Whether you’re a lifelong fan or just discovering his magic, this is your space to connect, reflect, and celebrate MJ.
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