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National Police Association Podcast
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Chats with law enforcement experts and leaders
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National Police Association Podcast Pt. 2 with Gregory K. Bovino, Commander-at-Large of the United States Border Patrol (Ret.)
In Part 2 of Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith’s conversation with former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino, the discussion dives deep into the national debate surrounding illegal immigration, sanctuary city policies, immigration enforcement, and the growing hostility faced by Border Patrol and ICE agents in American cities.Bovino challenges the political phrase “worst of the worst,” arguing that limiting immigration enforcement only to violent offenders effectively creates a pathway to mass amnesty. He explains why immigration enforcement, in his view, must address the broader scale of illegal entry and overstays rather than waiting for crimes to occur before action is taken.The conversation examines how sanctuary city policies impact federal immigration enforcement and local law enforcement cooperation. Bovino describes how sanctuary jurisdictions create what he calls a “draw” for illegal immigration while simultaneously making it more difficult for law enforcement agencies to work together to remove criminal offenders and maintain public safety.Smith and Bovino also discuss the economic and social impact of illegal immigration on American communities, including: Competition for jobs and wages Strains on schools and hospitals Emergency room overcrowding Resource burdens on taxpayers The effect on working-class Americans A major focus of the episode is the distinction between criminal due process and administrative immigration enforcement under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). Bovino explains how immigration law allows federal authorities to process removals administratively without using the traditional criminal court system.The interview also addresses the unprecedented hostility directed toward Border Patrol and ICE personnel. Bovino recounts violent encounters involving vehicles, projectiles, and organized activist resistance during enforcement operations in major cities, while discussing the long-term effects these operations have had on agents.The episode closes with Bovino encouraging young Americans and current police officers to consider careers in the Border Patrol and public service, calling the profession deeply rewarding and emphasizing the importance of protecting American communities.Key Topics Discussed “Worst of the worst” immigration enforcement debate Sanctuary cities and federal enforcement conflicts Economic impact of illegal immigration Immigration law and administrative due process Violence against Border Patrol and ICE agents Law enforcement morale and officer safety Mass deportation strategies Border security policy and national sovereignty Recruiting the next generation of Border Patrol agents Twitter https://x.com/GregoryKBovino
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National Police Association Podcast Pt. 1 with Gregory K. Bovino, Commander-at-Large of the United States Border Patrol (Ret.)
🔎 Episode OverviewIn this compelling first installment, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with recently retired U.S. Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino, one of the most visible and outspoken leaders in modern border enforcement. Bovino reflects on his decades-long career, from humble beginnings to commanding high-profile operations across the country. The conversation explores the realities of illegal immigration, the operational and political challenges facing Border Patrol agents, and what it takes to achieve meaningful enforcement in the United States today.🎧 Key Topics and Takeaways🚔 A Career Inspired by Early Encounters Bovino shares a memorable childhood interaction with law enforcement that shaped his path. He joined the U.S. Border Patrol in 1996, drawn by service, mission, and a sense of adventure. 🛡️ Leadership Under Pressure He emphasizes leadership as the critical force multiplier, especially during years of limited resources. He highlights the resilience and dedication of Border Patrol agents operating without modern technology in earlier years. “Our most precious resource is our agents.” ⚖️ Politics and the Border Bovino discusses how shifting political administrations impact Border Patrol operations. He contrasts policy approaches and their real-world effects on manpower, morale, and mission execution. He describes the Border Patrol as uniquely vulnerable to political changes. 🌐 From the Border to the National Spotlight Bovino recounts being thrust into national media attention during major enforcement operations in cities like Minneapolis, Los Angeles, and Chicago. He addresses public criticism, viral media coverage, and his agency’s decision to respond directly through social media. He stresses the importance of telling the truth to counter misinformation. ⚔️ Fighting a Two-Front War He explains the challenge of enforcing the law while facing opposition from political leaders, media, and internal policy constraints. Leadership responsibility includes shielding frontline agents from external pressures. 🤝 Law Enforcement Unity Despite Politics Bovino describes strong support between federal and local law enforcement behind the scenes. Many local officers privately expressed solidarity, even when public cooperation was restricted. He calls the forced divide between agencies a travesty. 📉 Impact of Enforcement Operations He notes significant crime reductions in cities where Border Patrol operations were deployed. He references large-scale enforcement efforts such as Operation Midway Blitz. 🇺🇸 The Reality of Mass Deportation Bovino argues that mass deportation is essential to addressing illegal immigration at scale. He introduces the concept of “total spectrum immigration enforcement,” a whole-of-society approach. Key components include: Federal, state, and local cooperation through 287(g) programs Community reporting Workplace enforcement Encouraging self-deportation He emphasizes that success depends on national willpower and coordinated action. 💬 Notable Quotes “Leadership can make or break the mission and the people carrying it out.” “We do not just fight the bad guys. We are often fighting on two fronts.” “It is awfully hard to argue with the truth.” “Mass deportation is not optional. It is essential.” 🔜 Coming NextThis is Part 1 of a two-part conversation with Greg Bovino. Stay tuned for Part 2, where the discussion continues with deeper insights into enforcement strategy, national security implications, and the future of immigration policy.
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NPA Podcast with Wendy Patrick, Career Prosecutor, Media Personality, Author, Public Speaker
In this compelling episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with nationally recognized prosecutor, legal analyst, author, and speaker Wendy Patrick. With decades of courtroom experience and academic expertise in theology and human behavior, Patrick offers a unique perspective on crime, justice, and the psychological factors that shape both offenders and victims.The conversation explores the evolving justice system, the importance of threat assessment, and the growing challenges facing law enforcement and prosecutors today.🔍 Key Topics & TakeawaysHer work bridges law, psychology, and faith, offering insight into why people make harmful decisions. Contrast between changing laws and unchanging moral frameworks. The enduring relevance of ancient wisdom in understanding justice and human nature.The emotional and ethical weight of pursuing justice, not just convictions.Why threat assessment, not prediction, is key to preventing crime. The dangers of ignoring patterns of behavior in repeat offenders. Insight into identifying red flags even in individuals without criminal records: Why many violent offenders appear “normal” or “quiet” to those around them. Examples like Ted Kaczynski illustrate how warning signs are often missed. The importance of trusting instincts and recognizing subtle behavioral cues. Emphasis on proactive crime prevention strategies. Recognizing behavioral patterns before violence occurs. Empowering individuals and communities to trust their instincts and act early. https://wendypatrickphd.comhttps://x.com/WendyPatrickPhDhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/wendypatrickphd
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NPA Podcast with police Sgt. Jon Rappa, Interrogation Instructor, Author of Extracting the Truth
In this episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Sgt. Jon Rappa—an active law enforcement officer and nationally recognized instructor in interview and interrogation techniques. Rappa shares how personal tragedy shaped his career, breaks down the realities behind police questioning, and explains why communication—not coercion—is the most powerful tool officers have.Key PointsPositive interactions with detectives on the case inspired a lifelong commitment to helping victims. His core philosophy: “Justice is coming.”Hollywood portrays aggressive, high-pressure tactics. Reality is far different: Calm conversations Rapport-building Respectful communication Rappa emphasizes: relationship-based interviewing gets better results than confrontation.Every officer talks to people all day, every dayYet most interview training comes after becoming a detective Strong communication skills can: Improve investigations Strengthen cases Enhance officer safety Humans detect deception only slightly better than chance (~52%) Body language often reflects stress, not necessarily guilt Focus should be on: Conversation flow Information gathering Behavioral context Critical for officer safety (e.g., detecting flight or aggression) Useful for identifying reactions during searches Less important than communication during formal interviews https://extractingthetruth.comhttps://advancedpoliceconcepts.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-rappa-27a374113
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NPA Podcast with Joseph Giacalone, NYPD Sergeant (Ret), Host of True Crime with the Sarge Podcast
Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with former NYPD sergeant and cold case expert Joseph Giacalone, an investigator who turned “retirement” into a second career in media, teaching, and true crime storytelling.From leading Bronx cold case homicide investigations to educating the public on the realities behind crime, Giacalone shares hard-earned insights on solving decades-old murders, working with prosecutors, and the growing national fascination with true crime.Giacalone describes cold cases as investigations where all viable leads have been exhausted—which can happen in weeks or years.Unlike TV portrayals:Detectives must convince prosecutors to accept a caseEven strong evidence (including DNA) may be deemed insufficientProsecutors often demand additional evidence months after initial reviewSolving a long-dormant homicide delivers:A surge of adrenaline and fulfillmentClosure for victims’ familiesA sense of justice delayed—but not deniedBuilding “True Crime with the Sarge”Giacalone launched his podcast after years of media appearances and academic work.His approach:Combines real investigative experience + academic expertiseOffers both YouTube live shows and audio-only interviewsListens closely to audience feedback to shape contentHe fills a unique niche by bridging:Street-level policingAcademic criminal justiceMedia analysishttps://x.com/joegiacalonehttps://www.josephgiacalone.comhttps://www.youtube.com/josephgiacalonehttps://www.facebook.com/JosephLGiacalone
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NPA Podcast with Anne E. Schwartz, Author of Monster: The True Story of the Jeffrey Dahmer Murders
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with veteran journalist, author, and law-enforcement communications expert Anne Schwartz. Their conversation covers Schwartz’s extraordinary career—from crime reporter to police public information officer—and her firsthand experience covering one of the most infamous criminal cases in modern history: the crimes of Jeffrey Dahmer.Schwartz shares what it was like as a young reporter arriving at the crime scene the night the Dahmer case broke in Milwaukee, how investigative journalism and police work intersect, and why building trust between reporters and law enforcement is essential to telling the public the truth.The episode also explores the evolution of police media relations, the impact of social media on public information, and the lessons law-enforcement agencies must learn to communicate effectively in today’s media environment.Key Topics Discussed* How Anne Schwartz Entered the World of Crime Reporting* Covering the Jeffrey Dahmer Case* How Dahmer Was Finally Caught* Media Relations and the Role of a Police PIO* The Explosion of True Crimehttps://www.amazon.com/Monster-Story-Jeffrey-Dahmer-Murders-ebook/dp/B095W1RQ34 https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-e-schwartz-a6b6309/https://www.facebook.com/schwartz.strategies/https://x.com/AnneSchwartz911
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NPA Podcast with Guest Michael A. Letts, Founder of InVest USA, providing police bullet-proof vests
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, host Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Michael Letts, a longtime law enforcement officer, pastor, Army veteran, and national advocate for first responders.Letts shares the remarkable journey that led him from ministry and national weightlifting competitions to decades of service in law enforcement. He also discusses the founding of InVest USA, a nonprofit dedicated to providing life-saving protective equipment such as bulletproof vests to police officers across the country.The conversation explores the spiritual, emotional, and operational challenges facing law enforcement today—from officer safety and chaplaincy programs to the international drug trade, political pressures on policing, and emerging national security threats.Throughout the discussion, Letts emphasizes the importance of community support for law enforcement and the role that everyday citizens can play in helping officers stay safe.Key Topics DiscussedFrom Ministry to Law EnforcementThe Importance of Police ChaplaincyThe War on Drugs and International CartelsThe Ongoing War on PoliceInVest USA: Protecting Officers on the StreetLetts shares the story behind the creation of InVest USA, a nonprofit that provides ballistic vests and safety equipment to officers who may not have adequate protection through their departments. The organization prioritizes departments that have lost officers in the line of duty and works with communities to raise funds to equip local police.https://investusa.org/https://x.com/MichaelLettsUShttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-michael-letts-show/id1803847986
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NPA Podcast with Guest Chad Bianco, Sheriff of Riverside County and Candidate for California Governor
On this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Chad Bianco, Sheriff of Riverside County, California—and current candidate for Governor of California.Before the headlines and the statewide campaign, Sheriff Bianco spent 32 years in law enforcement serving the citizens of Southern California. In this wide-ranging conversation, he shares his unexpected path into policing, his leadership of one of the largest sheriff’s offices in the country, and why he believes California is ready for change.Sheriff Bianco didn’t grow up dreaming of becoming a cop. In fact, he candidly admits he initially joined for the pay and benefits. But on day one of the academy, something clicked.He describes law enforcement as a calling—guided by faith and a deep commitment to service. Over three decades, he built a career that included:Corrections and patrolNarcotics enforcementInternal Affairs (a role he initially resisted but credits for shaping his leadership)Detective Bureau leadershipOversight of major child exploitation investigationsOne of the most impactful moments of his career came in 2006 when he helped bring Dateline’s To Catch a Predator to Riverside County, resulting in 51 predator arrests over a three-day sting operation and the creation of a lasting countywide task force.Sheriff Bianco argues that:California’s past 20 years of policy have been “pro-criminal” and anti-public safety.Reduced penalties, early releases, and weakened enhancements have increased crime.Public frustration has reached a tipping point—even in traditionally Democratic strongholds like Los Angeles.He emphasizes restoring consequences for criminal behavior while rebuilding public trust in law enforcement.https://biancoforgovernor.comhttps://x.com/ChadBiancohttps://www.facebook.com/SheriffChadBianco
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NPA Podcast with Guest, Todd Herb, Former Orlando P.D., First Responder Advocate at Ready Rebound
In this powerful episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with retired former Orlando Police Department officer Todd Herb to discuss a game-changing concept: providing first responders with elite-level sports medicine care to dramatically reduce recovery time, cut taxpayer costs, and protect morale.Todd shares how his post-law-enforcement journey led him to Ready Rebound, a company founded on one simple idea:If professional athletes get immediate, specialized treatment to return to peak performance, why shouldn’t first responders?When the public thinks about first responder injuries, they imagine:Officer-involved shootingsStructure firesMajor catastrophic incidentsBut the reality is very different.Most injuries are:Torn shouldersBlown kneesBack injuriesRolled anklesTraining accidentsThese orthopedic injuries often lead to:Months of light dutyCostly overtime backfillFrustration and morale declineLitigationEarly medical retirementLoss of trained talentIn small departments (often fewer than 20 officers nationwide), one injured officer can devastate staffing and budgets.Todd explains that even a single prolonged injury can cost a small city $50,000–$100,000 in overtime alone.Key TakeawaysFirst responders face athletic-level physical demands.Traditional workers’ comp systems are not designed for mission-critical responders.Faster, specialized treatment protects both public safety and taxpayer dollars.Treating officers like elite athletes improves morale, readiness, and retention.
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NPA Report with Guest, Dustin Reichert, Retired Deputy, Purple Heart recipient, author and speaker
In this powerful follow-up episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith reconnects with Deputy Sheriff Dustin Reichert, whose 2021 interview about surviving an officer-involved shooting deeply impacted listeners.But as Dustin explains, that shooting was neither the beginning nor the end of his story.It was part of something much bigger.Topics:EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing)A powerful therapy that helps the brain reprocess unprocessed trauma — “defragging the hard drive,” as he puts it.BrainspottingA trauma-processing modality that accesses the “deep brain” where trauma is stored when officers don’t have time to process between calls.Building the Right Support TeamNot all therapists understand first responder trauma. Dustin emphasizes:It’s okay to “shop around” for the right therapist.You should feel trust and connection.Agencies with embedded therapists are improving — but independent relationships are critical.From Survivor to SpeakerToday, Dustin:Speaks to law enforcement and civilian audiencesEducates on trauma processing and resilienceAdvocates for better administrative buy-inPerforms professional hypnosis shows (yes — even for sheriffs!)He also shares a powerful message with civilians:“Your biggest trauma is your biggest trauma. It’s not smaller just because someone else’s looks bigger.”https://dustinreichert.com https://10-88officerdown.comhttps://www.facebook.com/dustin.reichert
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NPA Report with Guest, Keith Swank, Career Law Enforcement Officer and Sheriff of Pierce County, WA
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Pierce County Sheriff Keith Swank, a constitutional sheriff who has emerged as a national voice for courageous law-enforcement leadership in the face of unprecedented political pressure. Sheriff Swank explains how Washington State’s “sanctuary” laws and legislative overreach threaten not only public safety, but the very independence of the elected sheriff’s office. Drawing on his career with the Seattle Police Department and his historic election as Pierce County’s first sheriff elected from outside the sheriff’s office, Swank details the growing effort by state lawmakers to “modernize” policing by imposing political control over who may run for sheriff and even removing sitting sheriffs who dissent. The conversation also explores why cooperation with ICE increases safety for officers, detainees, and the public; how riots, CHAZ/CHOP, and political interference reshaped policing in Seattle; and why sheriffs are uniquely accountable to the people, not politicians. Above all, this episode is a candid look at what it means to stand firm under fire, speak truth in hostile environments, and lead with courage when silence would be easier.🗂️ Topics CoveredWhat makes the sheriff’s office constitutionally independentPierce County’s charter government and its limits on sheriffsWashington State’s “Keep Washington Working” Act and sanctuary policiesWhy ICE cooperation improves public safety—and why it’s prohibited in WashingtonLegislative efforts to politically “qualify” or decertify elected sheriffsThe danger of allowing bureaucracies to remove sheriffs for speechRiot control lessons from Seattle, CHAZ/CHOP, and the “Summer of Love”The difference between appointed police chiefs and elected sheriffsNational implications for sheriffs in blue statesThe personal toll of standing up and why it’s still worth ithttps://x.com/Swank4America https://www.facebook.com/keith.swank.92https://www.piercecountywa.gov/126/Meet-Your-Sheriff
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NPA Report with Guest, Henry Morris, better known as Hollywood, founder of Support Our Shields
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith welcomes back returning guest Henry “Hollywood” Morris, founder of Support Our Shields and a leading voice in independent media defending law enforcement, religious freedom, and American values.Hollywood shares why he launched Support Our Shields at the height of the “defund the police” movement and reflects on traveling more than 80,000 miles across 33 states to honor over 75 fallen law enforcement officers. Together, Betsy and Hollywood examine the renewed attacks on police and federal agents, particularly ICE, and warn that America may be witnessing “Defund Police 2.0.”The conversation tackles the media’s role in shaping false narratives, the real-world consequences of anti-law-enforcement policies in major cities, and the growing danger of pitting law enforcement against law enforcement. They also discuss recent chaos in Minneapolis and Saint Paul, including the storming of a church service by activists, and what it reveals about cultural radicalism, selective outrage, and the erosion of public order.Most importantly, this episode highlights why independent media has become essential in exposing lies, defending officers, and reaching Americans who are no longer buying what legacy media is selling.🔍 Key Topics DiscussedWhy Support Our Shields was founded and how the mission has evolvedThe real impact of “defund the police” policies on vulnerable communitiesRecord police resignations, early retirements, and staffing shortagesICE enforcement, media misinformation, and public interference with arrestsThe weaponization of vehicles against law enforcement officersChurch disruptions, Antifa tactics, and familiar faces from past unrestHow legacy media frames law enforcement vs. the rise of independent voicesWhy anti-police rhetoric is becoming more dangerous and more desperateThe moral, spiritual, and public-safety consequences of lawlessnesshttps://hollywoodmorris.comhttps://www.supportourshields.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/supportourshields
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NPA Report with Guest, Milwaukee Sgt. Patrick O’Donnell (Ret.) Best Selling Author & Writing Coach
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Milwaukee Police Department veteran, bestselling author, and podcast host Patrick O’Donnell for a wide-ranging conversation that blends real-world policing, writing, and cultural honesty.Patrick shares the story of why he became a cop, growing up in Chicago, witnessing a SWAT raid as a child, and falling in love with police work during the height of the crack epidemic in Milwaukee. He walks listeners through his law-enforcement career, from high-crime patrol assignments and midnight shifts to promotion as a sergeant and the realities of leadership in busy urban districts.The conversation then turns to Patrick’s unexpected journey into writing and self-publishing. What began as a practical guide on buying cars evolved into a prolific writing career, including his highly successful Cops and Writers series—books that help fiction authors write realistic police characters, procedures, and investigations. Patrick explains how leaning into real-world experience, rather than Hollywood tropes, became the key to his success.Betsy and Patrick also discuss the growing gap between real policing and its portrayal in modern television, movies, and fiction. They explore the “CSI effect,” unrealistic DNA expectations, and the damage caused when ideology and forced woke narratives replace authentic character development, both in entertainment and in real-world policing policies.Drawing on decades of experience, Patrick offers candid insights on what makes police characters believable, why good storytelling always starts with character and how authenticity resonates with audiences far more than manufactured narratives.Topics CoveredWhy Patrick O’Donnell became a police officerPolicing Milwaukee during the crack epidemicTransitioning from policing to bestselling authorWriting realistic police fiction and procedureThe “CSI effect” and misconceptions about DNA and investigationsWhy Hollywood gets policing wrongBuilding the Cops and Writers community and podcastWhere to Find Patrick O’DonnellWebsite: CopsAndWriters.comPodcast: Cops and Writers (Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and more)Books: Available on AmazonSocial Media: Links available through his website
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NPA Report with Guest, Scott Hughes, Chief of Police, Instructor, Expert, Consultant
Sgt. Betsy Smith welcomes back Chief Scott Hughes for a wide-ranging conversation on officer safety. Together, they unpack the risks that are rising (including ambushes) and why fundamentals like seatbelts, vests, and continuous training still matter, especially in an era of short staffing, reduced proactive policing, and heightened scrutiny of law enforcement.What they cover1) “Fundamentals win”: the basics that save livesChief Hughes and Sgt. Smith return to simple fundamentals:Seatbelts (always, not just “on the way to a hot call”)Speed discipline and response-mode decision-makingBody armor/vestsTactical repetition: handcuffing, self-defense, and scenario training that reflects reality2) Cars, crashes, and survivabilityThey discuss how modern vehicle technology may contribute to better survivability:Collision alerts and lane-drift warningsAirbags and improved vehicle safety features At the same time, they warn that driving “lights-and-sirens” too fast to calls that don’t warrant it can create dangerous habits over time.3) Tactical medicine: tourniquets, kits, and new expectationsSgt. Smith contrasts earlier generations of policing—when officers were discouraged from using tourniquets—with today’s norm:Tourniquets commonly carried on beltsPatrol medical kits becoming standardA more urgent mindset: render aid immediately, and in some cases transport a wounded officer directly rather than waiting for EMS4) Training from the internet: body cam footage as a “rolling classroom”They talk about how modern officers learn from:Body camera, dash cam, and surveillance videoYouTube/Rumble as informal training librariesRoll call discussions: “What would I do? What would I do differently?”5) A key mindset change: “Getting shot doesn’t end the fight”Sgt. Smith notes older scenario training often stopped once someone was “shot,” unintentionally teaching shot = dead. Chief Hughes describes the updated mindset he teaches: if you’re still alive, keep moving, keep thinking, keep fighting, keep saving lives.6) Using body cams to coach, not just to punishChief Hughes describes an internal practice he supports:Supervisors regularly reviewing body cam footageUsing clips to reinforce good tactics (safe approaches, positioning, keeping the weapon hand free, etc.)Avoiding “gotcha-only” body cam culture, which undermines learning and trust7) Proactive policing: uneven recovery and the staffing crisisThey discuss how demonization of police and political pressure contributed to reduced proactive policing and how recovery depends heavily on jurisdiction:Some areas remain reluctant due to perceived lack of support (political, administrative, or community)Big-city staffing shortages continue to reshape policingThe downstream impact on communities when proactive policing declines8) Ambush attacks and “routine” moments that aren’t routineThey discuss a rise in ambush-style attacks and how some tragedies are nearly impossible to “train away,” including being attacked while:Eating lunch in a patrol carWorking traffic details Their point: some threats don’t come with warning, which makes fundamentals and habits even more important.9) The training gap: funding, staffing, and personal responsibilityThey address a tough reality: agencies often can’t spare officers for training due to staffing and overtime constraints. Their shared message to officers:You may need to invest in yourself (range time, defensive tactics, grappling, continuing education)If you haven’t practiced critical skills since the academy, those skills may fail you when it countsMemorable lines“If you don’t make it there, you’re no good to anybody.”“Your people are the most important thing you’ve got. Without them, you’ve got nothing.”“If you’re feeling pain, you’re still alive—so let’s go.” (in the context of fighting through injury) Links & guest infohttps://www.crosdenconsulting.comhttps://twitter.com/ChiefShugheshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-hughes-clee-0a978929
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The National Police Association Podcast with Samantha Borgos, Co-Founder of Sovereign Self Defense
On this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with firearms instructor and content creator Samantha Borgos, co-founder of Sovereign Self Defense.Samantha has built a viral social media presence by blending “edutainment”—educational content wrapped in entertainment—with videos of herself legally open carrying in everyday places like Whole Foods, Sephora, and Starbucks. She and Betsy talk about how those videos started as a simple experiment after Florida’s open carry law changed, and how they’ve evolved into a powerful way to normalize responsible carry, especially for women.They also dive into the heart of Samantha’s work: teaching civilians, cops, and veterans how to think, train, and live like true protectors. From understanding the realities of home invasions to what to do legally and practically after a defensive shooting, Samantha emphasizes that citizens must be prepared to act as their own first responders long before police can arrive.________________________________________In This Episode, We Discuss:• Samantha’s path into firearms & trainingo How she went from knowing nothing about guns to co founding a self defense companyo Her background running a marketing and branding agencyo Meeting her husband (a U.S. Marine and weapons & tactics instructor) and becoming his first “Warrior Workshop” student• The Warrior Workshop & Sovereign Self Defenseo How one experimental class turned into a full multi level training programo The concept of “where personal protection meets personal development”o Training not just skills with a gun, but the character, courage, and mindset required in a real fight• Normalizing armed, capable womeno Why Samantha didn’t see herself represented in the typical “tactical” or “flimsy” female gun stereotypeso Her mission to show you can be feminine, fashionable, and still highly competent with a firearmo Using social media “edutainment” to help women feel more confident carrying• Open carry as a social experimento How Florida’s change in open carry law led to her first viral video________________________________________Connect with Samanthahttps://sovereignselfdefense.com https://www.instagram.com/thewarriorworkshop https://www.instagram.com/samanthajaclyn_ https://www.facebook.com/samantha.loomis.33
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National Police Association Podcast w/David Gonzales, U.S. Marshal for the District of Arizona (Ret.)
Sgt. Betsy Smith sits down with longtime friend and law enforcement legend David Gonzales, whose 48-year career spans small-town patrol, Arizona DPS narcotics work, and over two decades as the presidentially appointed U.S. Marshal for the District of Arizona. Gonzales shares how a 19‑year‑old kid from Flagstaff ended up patrolling one of the largest counties in America, chasing major drug traffickers, hunting fugitives around the world, and managing thousands of federal prisoners during the height of the immigration crisis.He also gives an insider’s view of private prisons vs. county jails, the reality of human trafficking investigations, the chaos of the 2020 Portland courthouse attacks, and today’s intense hostility toward federal law enforcement — especially ICE and the Marshals Service — in a deeply divided political climate.In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:Life with the Arizona Department of Public Safety (DPS)Transition into narcotics during the surge of heroin and marijuana coming from MexicoBecoming U.S. Marshal for ArizonaHow relationships with sheriffs, chiefs, and community partners positioned him for appointmentBeing nominated by Senators John McCain and Jon Kyl and appointed by President George W. BushUnusually being kept on by Presidents Obama, Trump, and Biden, serving 22 years as a presidential appointeeWhy the Marshals are often considered the “cops’ cops” of federal law enforcementHigh rate of critical incidents and shootings compared to other federal agenciesPortland attacks on federal facilitiesBeing on the ground during nightly Antifa/BLM attacks on the Portland federal courthouseFirebombs, lasers aimed at eyes, and constant riotsArresting agitators only to see them immediately released and back on the streetThe frustration of local police wanting to help but being ordered not to assist the feds📧 Email: [email protected]
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National Police Association Podcast w/ Tony Sanborn, Pres., Arizona Law Enforcement Canine Association
Host Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with police K9 handler Officer Tony Sanborn, president of the Arizona Law Enforcement Canine Association (ALECA), for an in‑depth conversation about modern police K9 work.Tony shares why he was “called” to the profession, how K9 units have become powerful ambassadors and recruitment tools for law enforcement, and what really goes into training, deploying, and caring for these highly skilled working dogs.They dive into the Desert Dog Police Canine Trials and Public Safety Expo, how the event has evolved into one of the biggest K9 competitions and public safety expos in the region, and why public education about use of force and police tactics has never been more important.From the realities of using K9s in civil unrest, to breed debates (Malinois vs. German Shepherds), to the rise of therapy dogs in schools and for officer wellness, this episode gives a candid, behind‑the‑scenes look at the dogs who save lives—and the handlers who stand behind them.In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:Tony’s path into law enforcement & K9Why being a cop and a K9 handler felt like a callingHow cadet and explorer programs set the foundation for his careerK9s as “ambassadors” for the professionHow dogs break down barriers with the public when uniforms can’tWhy K9 units are often front and center in recruitment effortsHow handlers are reminded they’re a “conduit” to the communityLearn more about the Arizona Law Enforcement Canine Association (ALECA) and their mission to train, equip, educate, and support K9 teams across the state.Follow ALECA on social media to see videos and highlights.https://www.alecapolicek9.com/https://www.facebook.com/AZPoliceK9/https://www.instagram.com/alecak9/Use the donate option on ALECA’s site to help fund training, equipment, and retired K9 care.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Det. Vic Ferrari, NYPD (Ret.) Author & Podcast Host
This week, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with retired NYPD detective Vic Ferrari—author, podcaster, and Bronx native—for a candid conversation about policing’s past and present in New York City. Ferrari traces his path from a car-obsessed kid to an NYPD detective specializing in auto crime, explains what Law & Order gets closer to right than most shows, and walks through how CompStat and stop‑question‑frisk were intended to work.The discussion ranges across mayoral eras (Koch, Dinkins, Giuliani, Bloomberg, de Blasio, Eric Adams, and the mayor‑elect referenced in the conversation), internal culture and standards, interagency work, the impact of cashless bail, and current controversies. Vic shares a personal vignette from 9/11, reflects on public sentiment then and now, and outlines why many officers today fear getting in trouble more than getting hurt. He closes with how writing became therapy, why his book covers look the way they do, and where listeners can find his podcast.In This EpisodeGrowing up in the Bronx, early inspiration from classic cop shows, and joining the NYPD at 21.Ten years in the Auto Crime Division: chop shops, VIN switches, exports, and organized crime cases.TV vs. reality: why most police shows “speed things up,” and why Law & Order comes closest to the NYPD workflow.Becoming an author: why retirement in Florida didn’t stick, turning stories into nine NYPD books, and collaborating on covers (how he gets them made and why they’re humorous).Leadership and standards: internal scandals, lowered hiring bars, uniforms/grooming, and training culture.Cashless bail: Ruined Manhattan’s criminal accountability Interagency work & borough differences (e.g., wiretaps in Manhattan vs. the Bronx).9/11: where Vic was, getting downtown, and how public sentiment shifted.Databases & oversight: debate around gang databases and political rhetoric.The future of the NYPD: potential attrition, “report‑taker” mindset vs. proactive policing, and generational change.Notable Quotes (pull‑quotes)“Most cops today aren’t afraid of getting killed; they’re afraid of getting in trouble.”“CompStat was like chemotherapy—you have to know when to take your foot off the gas.”“After 9/11, we were cheered on the West Side Highway…and called scumbags again fifteen minutes later up in the Bronx.”https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01IIQXLBC https://www.facebook.com/vicferrarinypd https://www.instagram.com/vicferrari50https://www.youtube.com/@vicferrari4046s
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Dr. Josh McConkey, Physician, USAF Col. & Candidate
Episode OverviewIn this powerful episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Dr. Josh McConkey, an Air Force Colonel, ER doctor, and author of The Weight Behind the Spear, to discuss leadership, service, and the future of our country. From the emergency room to the battlefield, from classrooms to campaign trails, Dr. McConkey shares how true leadership means empowering others, holding people accountable, and restoring American values of duty and patriotism.Key Topics Covered1. The Weight Behind the SpearThe meaning behind Dr. McConkey’s leadership philosophy.Why America’s greatest strength is its people — teachers, mentors, coaches, and families who give others confidence and direction.How selfless leadership differs from ego-driven leadership.2. Teachers, Accountability, and America’s YouthThe decline of accountability in education and how it damages young people’s development.The importance of restoring teacher authority and supporting classroom discipline.Why teaching and policing are the two hardest — and most essential — jobs in America.3. Police Officers and School Resource OfficersThe critical role of school resource officers in protecting students.How removing officers from schools endangers educators and children alike.Real-world insights from an emergency physician who’s treated wounded officers.4. Tactical Medicine and ResiliencyHow tactical combat casualty care (TCCC) training has saved countless law enforcement lives.The growing threats of ambushes on police, firefighters, and paramedics.Why resilience, adaptability, and critical thinking define both military and law enforcement excellence.5. Patriotism and LeadershipThe uniquely American spirit of patriotism and why it matters.Lessons from overseas about what sets U.S. service members apart.How love of country fuels sacrifice, service, and moral clarity.6. From Combat Zone to Campaign TrailWhat inspired Dr. McConkey to run for Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina.How failed leadership during COVID and soft-on-crime policies created lasting harm.His firsthand perspective on America’s mental health crisis, accountability in justice, and the need for purpose-driven governance.7. Mental Health and Public SafetyThe collapse of state mental health systems and its impact on police and emergency medicine.The dangers of “decriminalization without treatment” in cities like Portland.Why replacing police with social workers has failed catastrophically.The need for more mental health facilities, better-qualified staff, and real accountability.8. Accountability, Crime, and Illegal ImmigrationThe dangers of cashless bail and soft-on-crime judicial policies.Stories of repeat offenders and victims of failed justice systems.The consequences of the Biden administration’s open-border policies.How illegal immigration and human trafficking are devastating communities and emergency departments.Leadership Lessons from Dr. McConkeyTrue leadership is about lifting others, not promoting oneself.Resiliency and adaptability are essential for both service members and first responders.Accountability, in schools, courts, and politics, is the foundation of a functioning society.Patriotism isn’t just emotion; it’s an act of service and moral courage.Resources MentionedBook: The Weight Behind the Spear, Available at Amazon and Barnes & Noble.Campaign Website: strongernc.comSocial Media: Instagram: @JoshMcConkeyMD X (Twitter): @McConkey007
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Jamie McBride, LAPD Det., Police Union President, and Actor
Episode SummaryIn this powerful episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with longtime LAPD Detective and union leader Jamie McBride for an unfiltered look at the challenges and changes in modern policing. With 35 years of experience, McBride discusses everything from his early days on the beat to the recruitment crisis, declining standards, and the aftermath of 2020’s anti-police movement. Together, Betsy and Jamie confront the myths about law enforcement, explore how politics and policy are shaping the next generation of officers, and share candid thoughts on professionalism, education, and what it truly takes to wear the badge.Key Topics DiscussedJamie’s Path to PolicingDo You Need College to Be a Cop? Recruitment & Retention CrisisImpact of 2020 & Anti-Police RhetoricUnion Work & MisconceptionsTraining, Pay, and National StandardsAbout the GuestDetective Jamie McBride is a veteran of the Los Angeles Police Department with over three decades of service. A detective, police union director, father, grandfather, and outspoken advocate for law enforcement, McBride is known nationwide for his candid, unapologetic defense of the men and women who protect America’s streets.Connect with Det. McBrideFollow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamie_mcbride_official/
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Peter J. Forcelli, ATF Deputy Assist Director (Ret) & NYPD Det
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with retired federal agent Peter J. Forcelli, whose 35-year law enforcement career spans street policing in the Bronx and federal investigations.Forcelli recounts his path from a TV-inspired NYPD rookie to a respected federal agent who took on both violent criminals and a complacent justice system. The conversation offers a firsthand look at the failures of modern prosecution, the dangers of “woke” criminal justice policies, and why accountability — not leniency — is the key to public safety.From Beat Cop to Homicide Detective: Forcelli reflects on walking a Bronx beat, working homicides, and partnering with federal agencies that got real results.Why Prosecution Matters: He argues that violent crime spikes not because of guns but because prosecutors refuse to keep violent offenders behind bars.Broken Windows Policing: Forcelli defends the proven success of proactive policing — stopping minor crimes to prevent major ones — and warns what happens when cities abandon it.The Cost of “No Foot Pursuit” Policies: From Chicago to Virginia, new restrictions on basic policing tactics embolden criminals and endanger communities.🌐 Website: www.peterjforcelli.com
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Antoine Thomas, Host- Fighting for the Truth
Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith (Ret.) sits down with Antoine Thomas, a law enforcement veteran, podcaster, and Christian conservative, to discuss the challenges and triumphs of policing in today’s America. Antoine shares his journey into law enforcement as a personal calling, reflects on the highs and lows of his career, and explains how faith, resilience, and dedication kept him grounded in one of the toughest professions.Together, they explore how politics, media narratives, and cultural shifts have impacted law enforcement in recent years and why, despite the obstacles, Antoine still believes policing is the best profession on earth.Key Topics CoveredA Calling to Serve: Antoine describes becoming a police officer as a calling from God, shaped by family legacy and guided by Judeo-Christian values.Career Challenges: How he found strength during the difficult COVID and George Floyd era.Faith, Politics, and Policing: What it means to be a Christian conservative police officer in today’s political climate, including Antoine’s work with BLEXIT and Turning Point USA.Body-Worn Cameras: From skepticism to strong support, Antoine shares how cameras have become a crucial tool for protecting officers and exposing false claims.Fighting for the Truth Podcast: Why Antoine rebranded his podcast and how he uses the platform to discuss policing “the good, bad, and the ugly” while standing firmly on Proverbs 23:23: “Buy the truth and sell it not.”The Future of Law Enforcement: From the importance of political leadership that supports the police to seeing new generations of recruits enter the profession, Antoine is optimistic about the future of law enforcement.Restoring Pride in the Badge: Why communities are rediscovering that “life without cops sucks” and how officers can continue to serve with honor despite external pressures.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guests, David Ur & Lana Krichevsky-Ur, Re: Lawsuit Against Former Agency
In this gripping episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with former Marion County, Florida Deputy David Ur and his wife, Dr. Lana Krichevsky-Ur, to share their harrowing journey from public service to personal and professional devastation. What began as David’s midlife dream to serve in law enforcement turned into a nightmare of alleged retaliation, political interference, and career destruction after an arrest involving a politically connected suspect.David details his path from crane operator and helicopter pilot to deputy sheriff, excelling in the academy and eager to serve. But after a routine call turned into a felony drug arrest, internal politics and accusations of false reporting stripped him of his badge, his gun, and eventually, his law enforcement license. The couple recounts how the ordeal led to financial collapse, public humiliation, and a four-year legal battle while the suspect’s charges quietly disappeared.Lana opens up about the emotional toll of watching her husband’s career implode while she worked grueling hours as a medical resident. Together, they share how they rebuilt their lives operating a pizza food truck in Flagler Beach that donates to The Wounded Blue and how they are now pursuing justice through a federal lawsuit.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Christine Burke, Author, Trainer, Forensic Genetic Genealogist
Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith (ret.) sits down with former police sergeant and investigative trailblazer Christine Burke to explore the groundbreaking world of forensic genetic genealogy. Christine shares her compelling personal journey from banking to law enforcement, her passion for solving complex investigations, and how a surprising DNA discovery changed the trajectory of her life and career.Together, they delve into how this powerful tool is revolutionizing the investigation of cold cases, unidentified remains, and even new crimes—whether you're a seasoned detective or a civilian interested in joining the fight for justice. Key Topics CoveredChristine’s unexpected path into law enforcement and what drew her to detective workThe basics of genetic genealogy and how it differs from traditional DNA methods like CODISThe role of genetic genealogy in solving cold cases and identifying human remainsHow the technology contributed to major cases, including the Idaho murders case involving Brian KohbergerChristine’s personal DNA discovery and how it inspired her to help others solve their family mysteriesHow civilians—not just law enforcement—can get involved and become trained investigatorsWhy departments must revisit old evidence, as labs can now extract usable DNA from minimal or degraded samples
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Tim and Chelsea Putney, Peer support for The Wounded Blue
Episode Overview: In this powerful and emotional episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Tim and Chelsea Putney, a courageous Texas couple whose life was forever changed when Tim, a police officer, suffered a catastrophic on-duty injury. What follows is a deeply personal conversation about trauma, resilience, family, and the life-saving importance of peer support in law enforcement.Key Topics:💥 The Call That Changed Everything Tim recounts the harrowing 2017 incident where he responded alone to a violent domestic call involving a meth-fueled teen. The resulting injury to his spine changed the course of his career—and his family’s life—forever.⚖️ The Legal and Bureaucratic Struggles After Injury The Putneys describe the uphill battle they faced with workers’ compensation, insurance denials, and feeling abandoned by the very system meant to protect injured officers.💔 The Toll on Family and Marriage Chelsea opens up about the emotional weight of watching her husband struggle physically and mentally, the breakdown in communication, and how their marriage nearly collapsed under the pressure—until peer support gave them a second chance.🛠️ The Wounded Blue and the Peer Support Mission Tim and Chelsea explain how they became involved with The Wounded Blue, a national organization dedicated to injured officers. Today, they lead its peer support team, offering confidential, trauma-informed help to officers and their families across the country.🧠 Counseling, Recovery & Redemption From initial resistance to mental health counseling to becoming vocal advocates for therapy, the Putneys share how counseling saved their lives—and their marriage.🦴 A Second Shot at Healing Tim discusses his recent trip to Washington, D.C., where, after years of bureaucratic roadblocks, he finally received three life-changing spine surgeries through the help of Wounded Blue supporters.🌟 Looking Ahead: The Wounded Blue Survival Summit The couple will be featured speakers at the upcoming Wounded Blue Survival Summit in Las Vegas (Sept 22–25), a unique event providing training, healing, and hope for officers and their families.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, James Walden, Candidate for NYC Mayor, Former Asst US Attorney
Guest: Jim (James) Walden – former federal prosecutor, private‑practice attorney, and 2025 independent candidate for Mayor of New York City.Quick‑Listen SummaryFormer U.S. prosecutor Jim Walden explains why New York City is “fighting for its life,” how political mismanagement and anti‑police rhetoric have undermined public safety, and the specific reforms he believes can rebuild the NYPD, protect vulnerable communities, and restore sanity to City Hall.Five TakeawaysTask‑Force Model Works Coordinated, multi‑agency teams once crippled NYC’s mob violence—proof that collaboration, not defunding, drives crime down.“Defund” = Disservice to Victims Walden calls anti‑police rhetoric a form of bigotry that mainly endangers disadvantaged neighborhoods.Pay & Respect Matter NYPD starting salaries lag far behind LA, Chicago, and Dallas; raising compensation and public respect is essential to halt officer flight.Shield Operations from Politics Walden proposes charter changes (or court challenges) to block City Council bills that micromanage day‑to‑day policing.A Unity Strategy for November To stop a radical takeover, Walden urges all center‑left and conservative candidates to poll in early fall and unite behind the top performer.Notable Quotes“We don’t allow bigotry against other groups, but it’s become fashionable against cops.”“With a $118 billion budget, New Yorkers deserve safe subways—full stop.”“No sane person would become an NYPD officer right now unless we change the tone from the top.”
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Rich Staropoli, U.S. Secret Service (ret.), Former UnderSec DHS
From barber‑shop beginnings in Brooklyn to presidential protection on the White House grounds, Rich Staropoli has lived the “E‑ticket” ride of elite law enforcement. In this candid conversation he and Sgt. Smith examine:Why passion—not quotas—makes or breaks a police recruitThe Secret Service’s unforgiving firearms & scenario training (and how “woke” shortcuts dilute it)Walking the West Wing with President Clinton and counter‑assaulting for President BushA first‑person 9/11 account inside the White House perimeterDéjà vu: why the U.S. is “more poised than ever” for a mass‑casualty terror strikeThe Butler, PA attempt on former President Trump—and Staropoli’s charge of leadership “collusion” that stripped critical protection assetsPractical fixes: military‑to‑police pipelines, mission‑driven recruiting, and rebuilding public trustMemorable Quotes“In a thousand‑agent Secret Service, there’s no place to hide—your reputation is everything.”“The blue line doesn’t say anything about gender or race. I can teach skills; I can’t teach heart.”“We’re better positioned for a 9/11 repeat now than we ever were in 2001.”“Lowering standards to fill optics is not diversity—it’s a dereliction of duty.”
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Mike Fadden, CEO of Galls, largest public safety market provider
In this episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith welcomes Mike Fadden, CEO of Galls—the premier supplier of uniforms and gear for first responders across North America. As the son and grandson of police officers, Fadden brings a deeply personal passion to his leadership, which has helped transform Galls into one of the most law enforcement-supportive companies in the nation.From reviving the iconic Galls catalog to pioneering women-specific uniform lines and supporting numerous pro-police charities, Fadden shares how his company is evolving with the needs of modern policing. He also discusses his leadership philosophy, Galls’ steadfast support during the “Defund the Police” movement, and the critical importance of professional appearance and fit for officer safety and morale.Key Topics Covered:Galls’ mission: Serving the heroes who serve othersReviving the print catalog that officers still loveSupporting small agencies and officers who buy their own gearExclusive breaking news: Galls becomes premier sponsor of the National Law Enforcement Hall of FameInnovation in fabrics, footwear, and tactical design for today's officerThe critical role of professional appearance in officer safetyGalls' community and charitable support for C.O.P.S. and othersLeadership by example: Why Mike Fadden includes his personal email in every orderWhy your next boots shouldn't come from an anti-police website
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Lt. Daniel Byram (ret) Consultant, Collaborator, Speaker, Author
A wide‑ranging, fast‑moving conversation between Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith and retired Mesa, AZ Police Lieutenant Daniel Byram,an officer, instructor, Homeland‑Security textbook author and prolific novelist. From patrolling hundreds of rural square miles as a 20‑year‑old deputy in 1970s Ohio to supervising an exploding police force in one of America’s fastest‑growing cities, Lt. Byram shares lessons on leadership, training, resilience, writing and the future of the profession.Memorable Quotes“Every minute you’re on the street you’re doing PR and recruiting, even when you don’t know it.”“A 300‑page wire‑tap affidavit made me realize: if I can write this, I can write a book.”“Nothing is more transparent than today’s police department; the body‑camera is the ultimate fact‑checker.”Resources & LinksLt. Daniel Byram online – books, articles & social media: danielbyram.com
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Daniel Marquardt, President of the Nonprofit We Love Police Inc.
In this inspiring episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith speaks with Daniel Marquardt, Illinois businessman, father of ten, and founder of the nonprofit We Love Police. Born out of a deep sense of calling and faith, We Love Police was created in response to growing hostility toward law enforcement, particularly during the 2020 "defund the police" movement.Dan shares the personal and spiritual journey that led him to launch the organization in 2021 and how it has since evolved into a multifaceted initiative uplifting officers nationwide. With services ranging from motivational banquets to nationwide 24/7 chaplain access for officers and their families, We Love Police is working to change the narrative, support police well-being, and engage churches in local outreach.🔹 Key Topics Covered:The Calling to Serve Law Enforcement Dan recounts how the anti-police climate and his Christian faith led him to start We Love Police as a direct way to uplift officers and counter negative narratives.Banquets that Save Careers From heartfelt letters to tearful gratitude, Dan reflects on how We Love Police events have reinvigorated officers who were ready to walk away from the job.24/7 Chaplain Access for Officers & Families In partnership with a national chaplaincy network, the organization now offers confidential, immediate spiritual support, accessible via chat, video, or phone, without requiring credentials or department involvement.The Church Partners Program A turnkey initiative that empowers churches to build relationships with local police departments. The goal: 1,000 churches engaged by 2025 and full national coverage by 2030.How to Get Involved From tax-deductible donations and story submissions to church partnerships and merchandise that boosts officer morale, Dan outlines multiple ways the public can support We Love Police.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Dr. Travis Yates, LEO (ret), Author, Consultant, Speaker & Trainer
Dr. Yates explains how Department of Justice consent decrees have cost cities hundreds of millions of dollars, depressed staffing, and, according to his independent review, were built on evidence that was mostly inaccurate or misleading. The conversation details the constitutional problems with federal oversight of local police, the political dynamics that drive which departments are targeted, and a state-level alternative now being shopped to Congress. Key TakeawaysFollow the money: Federal monitors often bill $1 million + per year, while violent crime and staffing worsen.Transparency is the game-changer: Phoenix created a public portal pairing each DOJ allegation with body-cam video and reports.Constitutional guardrails matter: Without local consent, federal control arguably violates the Tenth Amendment.Data vs. narrative: Out of 5 million calls for service and 300,000 arrests (2016-2022), DOJ cited just 132 incidents—0.00025 %—yet claimed a “pattern and practice” of misconduct.State-level oversight model: Redirect DOJ consent-decree dollars to every state attorney general, creating 50 locally accountable review teams.Linkshttps://www.travisyates.org/https://www.yatesleadership.com/https://www.courageouspoliceleader.com/
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Chief Joel F. Shults, Ed.D., Police Chief (ret), Author, Trainer
In this episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Chief Joel F. Shults, Ed.D., a retired police chief turned author and trainer, to explore the human side of policing and the challenges officers face today. Drawing on decades of experience leading law enforcement agencies and writing extensively on topics ranging from compassion in policing to officer well-being, Chief Shults shares personal insights and actionable advice for both veteran and aspiring officers. Key Discussion Topics*The Foundation of Compassion in Policing*Rational Fear and Its Role in Officer Safety*De-Escalation: Reality Versus Expectation*The Impact of Age and Experience on Officer Risk*Officer Mental Health & Well-BeingNotable Quotes“Most stories about compassion demonstrated by law enforcement officers go untold—and that’s perfectly fine, because the best acts of charity and tenderness are done for their own sake, not for headlines.” “A fear that is rational, defensible, and articulable is a lawful and valid reason for the caution shown by officers. Fear itself is not the enemy, irrational panic is.” “In a world that wants universal de-escalation, officers still face scenarios where verbal tactics alone can cost lives. We must teach the public and policymakers the reality behind the badge.”
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Christian Maxwell, Entrepreneur & Fighter for the People
In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with congressional candidate Christian Maxwell—a straight-talking Chicago resident determined to revive her home city and state. From battling skyrocketing crime to defending the Second Amendment, Maxwell lays out a candid, data-driven plan to make Illinois safer for law-abiding citizens and more accountable to its taxpayers.Memorable Points* Crime Deterrence Requires Consequences – Maxwell argues that lenient prosecution and short-staffed police embolden repeat offenders.* Second-Amendment Rights Matter – Allowing responsible citizens to carry legally could reduce carjackings, retail theft, and home invasions.* Economic Vitality Depends on Safety – Businesses flee when security costs outweigh profits; reviving Chicago’s economy starts with making streets safe again.* Data-Driven, Not Utopian, Solutions – Target repeat offenders, support thorough police reporting, and leverage crime data to deploy resources effectively.* Citizen Advocacy Doesn’t End on Election Day – Win or lose, Maxwell pledges to keep holding Illinois leaders accountable.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Ted Cruz, U.S. Sen. from Texas, Attorney, & Podcast Host
In this episode Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)—litigator, author, and host of Verdict with Ted Cruz—for a wide-ranging conversation on his lifelong mission to “fight to defend freedom,” Texas’s uniquely decentralized policing model, and the national battle against anti-police activism. From personal stories of his father’s fight against tyranny in Cuba to hard-hitting critiques of “rogue” prosecutors, Cruz explains why strong, constitutionally grounded policing is essential to public safety and liberty.Key Topics* Texas’s decentralized, “constitutional” model of policing* Showing gratitude to officers—contrasting Texas with “bright-blue” cities* The rise of George Soros-funded district attorneys and the two ways to “abolish” policeNotable Quotes“I literally jump out of bed every morning because I get to fight to defend freedom for 31 million Texans.”“There are two ways to abolish the police: defund them directly, or elect prosecutors who refuse to prosecute crime.”“Come to Texas—we love our cops. You rob a store here, you will find yourself in a concrete room with bars on the door.”
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Kate Klasen, Business Owner & founder of BISHOP'S MISSION
Join Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith as she speaks with Kate Klasen, founder of Bishop's Mission, and her remarkable Dalmatian companion, Bishop. Kate shares how her personal journey as a first responder led her to create an organization dedicated to supporting law enforcement and first responders through PTSD recognition and peer support, aided by specially trained service dogs.Key Highlights:Meet Bishop: Discover how a rescued Dalmatian named Bishop became a vital companion and skilled PTSD service dog, trained to detect signs of stress and anxiety in first responders.Kate's Journey: Learn how Kate transitioned from being a 911 dispatcher to a patrol officer, confronting firsthand the trauma and mental health challenges inherent in first responder roles.Understanding PTSD: Kate explains the unique abilities of service dogs like Bishop, who detect PTSD symptoms through scent and behavior cues, offering critical emotional support.Peer Support and Critical Incident Response: Explore the significance of peer support systems, critical incident stress management, and how Bishop’s Mission provides a supportive environment tailored specifically to first responders' unique needs.Addressing Mental Health Stigma: Kate addresses ongoing stigma in law enforcement surrounding mental health, emphasizing the importance of open dialogue and supportive resources.Fundraising and Community Support: Find out how Bishop's Mission sustains its operations through fundraising and donations, ensuring accessible services to first responders without financial barriers. Kate also highlights plans for a veterinary emergency fund for service dogs.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Janeen Baggette, Founder/Chairman at K9s For Freedom & Independence
In this compelling episode, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith speaks with Janeen Baggette, a former combat aerovac medic, veteran law enforcement officer, and expert canine handler. Janeen founded K9s for Freedom, an innovative organization utilizing highly-trained dogs to support first responders dealing with trauma, stress, and critical incidents.Key Topics Discussed:Janeen's Background: Janeen shares her journey from military medic to law enforcement, highlighting her passion for canine work. She details her extensive experience working with search and rescue dogs, narcotics detection dogs, and explosive detection dogs.Transitioning to Mental Health: Janeen explains her transition into the mental health space, driven by her own experiences and observations of trauma among military and first responder personnel. She emphasizes the therapeutic power of dogs in helping responders cope with critical incidents and PTSD.Innovative Stress Detection: Janeen reveals that K9s for Freedom pioneered cortisol detection training, enabling dogs to identify the most stressed individuals in critical situations. She shares impactful stories illustrating how these dogs have intervened effectively in crisis situations, from preventing suicide attempts to comforting trauma-affected children.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Barbara Oldrati, mother of unjustly charged LEO Salvatore Oldrati
Episode OverviewBarbara Oldrati details the night her son, Corporal Sal Oldrati, responded to a 911 burglary-in-progress call on September 21, 2021—a volatile encounter that ended in a fatal, officer-involved shooting. Cleared internally and returned to duty within weeks, Sal was indicted 20 months later (May 23, 2023) for reckless manslaughter after New Jersey’s Office of Public Integrity & Accountability (OPIA) revisited the case under a new attorney general. Barbara explains why the family believes the prosecution is politically motivated, the toll it has taken on Sal’s career and young family, and what listeners can do to help.Key TakeawaysSal’s Law-Enforcement Journey – From Philadelphia Police Explorers at 14 to Officer-of-the-Year awards and promotion to corporal.The Critical Incident – Low-light, 1:30 a.m. confrontation with an armed homeowner brandishing a replica handgun; split-second decision-making under NJ use-of-force law.Attorney-General Reversal – Initial clearance by NJ Shooting Response Team vs. later grand-jury indictment under a newly installed progressive AG.Legal Issues HighlightedGrand-jury “ham-sandwich” threshold and selective evidence presentation.NJ self-defense statute allowing deadly force when an officer reasonably fears imminent harm.Alleged discovery suppression and broader OPIA misconduct now drawing legislative scrutiny.Personal Impact – Sal suspended without pay, losing health insurance just before marriage and fatherhood; PTSD and career uncertainty.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Dave Case, 30+ Years LEO, Author, Prof, Writer, Speaker
Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Commander Dave Case—cop, author, and lifelong Midwesterner—to unpack four decades of frontline experience. From patrolling in the 1980s crack era to policing the vertical combat zone of Cabrini‑Green, Case explains how multigenerational gangs, heroin‑to‑fentanyl trafficking, and politicized prosecution reshaped public safety in America’s third‑largest city. He also reveals how those hard‑earned street lessons power his crime novels Out of Cabrini and the forthcoming sequel Chicago Justice.Quotable Moments“For every gun offender you lock up, three guys want to take his place.”“I have never been in a ‘newsworthy’ incident the media reported accurately—ever.”
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Det. Jim Hill (Ret) President, Maricopa County Colleges POA
Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith welcomes longtime law enforcement professional and outspoken advocate Jim Hill—known on X as Mr. Thin Blue Line—to the National Police Association Podcast. With decades of experience from Maryland to Pennsylvania to Arizona, Hill brings an unfiltered, street-level perspective on gangs, policing standards, law enforcement leadership, and public safety policy.From confronting violent gang culture in Scottsdale to calling out the failures of academia and politicized command staff, Hill shares why he became a cop, what law enforcement must do to survive and thrive in today’s climate, and how we can reclaim communities held hostage by multigenerational gang violence.Topics Discussed:Why Jim Hill Became a Cop: A drive to confront bullies—inside and outside the department—and raise the intellectual bar in policing.Academic Decay in Criminal Justice Education: Why Hill is pursuing a doctorate and sounding the alarm over Marxist ideology in police prep programs.Failures of Modern Gang Strategies: Why both "hug-a-thug" programs and arrest quotas miss the mark—and what should replace them.The Role of Churches and Schools: How faith-based and educational institutions have retreated from the front lines of prevention—and how they must return.Border Gangs and Cartel Influence: How Arizona became a national hub for drug and gang infiltration—and how cartels partner with U.S. street gangs.The Fallout from George Floyd & Ferguson: How demoralized cops stopped being proactive and how radicals in leadership cripple officer morale.The Truth About Police Associations: Hill dismantles the myth that unions exist to protect bad cops—and explains how due process, not cover-ups, is what truly matters.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Dr. Trevor Wilkins, PhD, Former LEO and Psychotherapist https://national-police-association.transistor.fm/21
Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith welcomes longtime friend and special guest Dr. Trevor Wilkins, also known as The Angry Viking Therapist. Once a high-performing state officer, Dr. Wilkins shares his transformative journey from the front lines of law enforcement to becoming a nationally recognized mental health advocate and trauma therapist for first responders.Dr. Wilkins opens up about the cumulative toll of police work, his battle with anger and isolation, and the career-ending mental health crisis that ultimately set him on a new path. Together, he and Sgt. Smith discuss:🚓 Why he really became a cop (spoiler: it wasn’t about saving the world)⚠️ How trauma, burnout, and organizational stress nearly destroyed his life💡 The reality of feeling helpless, hopeless, and "not good enough"🧠 How he rebuilt his life and found purpose through counseling and trauma care👊 What "The Angry Viking Therapist" represents—and why it resonates🤝 The power of peer support and his work as Clinical Director with The Wounded Blue🔍 New insights into operational vs. organizational stress from his groundbreaking research
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Rep. Michael Cloud, Texas Constitutional Conservative
In this episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith speaks with U.S. Representative Michael Cloud about pressing issues surrounding law enforcement, immigration policy, and border security. As a representative from a border state and a strong supporter of law enforcement, Rep. Cloud offers insight into legislation designed to help local police agencies work with federal immigration authorities—most notably, the 287(g) Program Protection Act. They dive into why cooperation between local law enforcement and ICE is critical for public safety, how the politicization of law enforcement has impacted communities, and what Congress is doing to reinforce officer safety, fight cartel crime, and crack down on fentanyl trafficking.Key Topics Covered:The 287(g) Program Protection Act Ensuring local law enforcement can collaborate with ICE and removing federal barriers to doing so.The Rise of Sanctuary Cities Why some local governments are refusing to honor ICE detainers—and the real consequences for public safety.The Politicization of Law Enforcement How law enforcement has been caught in political crossfire in recent years and efforts to reverse the trend.Fentanyl, Cartels, and the "Fatal Funnel" Rep. Cloud details how cartel activity is affecting Texas and how legislation is targeting trafficking and human smuggling.Federal Overreach and the ATF Discussion on the ATF’s data collection and how new policies aim to protect lawful gun owners and local gun retailers.The Shush Act & Suppressors Why removing the federal tax on suppressors could improve safety and reduce regulatory overreach.Restoring Trust in Government Rep. Cloud shares his optimism about the direction of federal law enforcement and border policy under current leadership.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Matt Swartz, Deputy Sheriff, Trauma Survivor & Speaker
Episode Summary:In this powerful episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Deputy Matt Swartz—an officer whose life story is a true testament to grit, resilience, and an unwavering commitment to service. From growing up in a law enforcement family to surviving two devastating vehicle crashes—one of which left him a below-the-knee amputee—Matt shares how he fought his way back not just to life, but back into uniform.Now serving with the Clay County Sheriff's Department in Florida after a career with the New York State Police and a stint as a firearms instructor at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC), Matt continues to inspire cops, kids, and veterans alike with his story of comeback and courage.What You’ll Hear in This Episode:Why Matt Swartz followed his parents into law enforcementThe off-duty crash that changed everything—and nearly ended his lifeHis journey through traumatic brain injury, amputation, and rehabilitationHow he returned to patrol duty less than a year after the crashThe challenges of prosthetics and the behind-the-scenes advice from other amputee officersHis second major crash—and the joke-filled brotherhood that helped him recoverTeaching at FLETC, pushing himself as a firearms instructor, and mentoring new recruitsThe importance of family support in a cop's career and recoveryHow he responded to the anti-police sentiment in 2020–2021Why he’s still holding the line today, in uniform and in shape
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The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Jess Flores, Former LEO, Creator, Founder of Next Shift, LLC
Episode Overview: In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith welcomes Jess Flores, a former police officer who transformed her career-ending injury into a mission to help others transition out of law enforcement. Jess shares her personal journey, the challenges of leaving the profession, and how she found new purpose through fitness, community, and personal growth. She also discusses her work with Next Shift, a platform dedicated to supporting law enforcement officers in their post-career transition.Key Topics Discussed:Jess’s Journey into Law EnforcementInspired by her grandfather, a police officer and Marine Corps veteranHow childhood memories shaped her desire to serveTV’s influence on her dream of becoming a detectiveChallenges and Injury That Ended Her Career Suffering a debilitating hand injury, making it impossible to return to dutyStruggling with identity loss and depression post-law enforcementThe lack of conversation around officers leaving the professionRebuilding Life After Law Enforcement The role fitness played in her mental and physical transformationFinding a new purpose and a sense of community outside of law enforcementThe creation of Next Shift to support other officers in transition
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Randy Clark, Author at Breitbart, Border Patrol Retiree
🔹 Episode Summary: In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith welcomes investigative journalist and former Border Patrol agent Randy Clark from Breitbart News. With over 32 years of experience in border enforcement, Randy offers a frontline perspective on the evolution of the U.S. Border Patrol, the ongoing border crisis, and the impact of current immigration policies on national security.🔹 Key Topics Discussed: ✅ Randy Clark’s journey from Border Patrol agent to investigative journalist ✅ The transformation of the Border Patrol since the Reagan administration ✅ The surge of illegal crossings and its implications for national security ✅ The role of the Biden administration in border policy changes ✅ The Del Rio migrant crisis and the false accusations against Border Patrol agents ✅ The increase in unaccompanied minors and human trafficking concerns
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The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Vernon Geberth, Retired Commander of Bronx Homicide
Episode Summary:In this compelling episode of the National Police Association Podcast, host Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with one of law enforcement’s most renowned homicide experts—Vernon Geberth. Known as the “Godfather of Homicide,” Geberth has trained thousands of investigators, authored seminal works on homicide investigation, and played a key role in the advancement of forensic techniques, including the introduction of DNA evidence in criminal cases.Key Topics Discussed:Why Vernon Geberth Became a Cop – From his childhood interest in uniforms to his mission-driven entry into the NYPD.His Path to Homicide Investigation – The rigorous training, high-pressure cases, and the pivotal moments that shaped his career.Introducing DNA Evidence to Criminal Investigations – How Geberth pioneered the use of DNA in New York homicide cases.Notable Cases – From preventing a wrongful suicide ruling to solving some of the most gruesome homicides.Training Future Generations – Geberth’s nationwide impact on law enforcement training and his famous “We Work for God” mantra.Declining Homicide Clearance Rates – The impact of poor leadership, politics, and anti-police sentiment on solving crimes.The Importance of Faith and Mental Resilience – How his belief in God and strong family support helped him handle the psychological toll of homicide investigations.
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The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Det. Heidi Chance Ret., Speaker, Author, Trainer
In this compelling episode of the National Police Association Podcast, host Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith speaks with retired detective Heidi Chance, a veteran investigator and expert in human trafficking awareness. Detective Chance shares her journey in law enforcement to undercover work in vice and human trafficking investigations, shedding light on the stark realities of sex trafficking, online predators, and the misconceptions surrounding "sex work."Key Topics Discussed:Detective Chance’s Background: A family legacy in law enforcement and her path to becoming an undercover detective.The Evolution of Human Trafficking Investigations: How law enforcement has shifted its approach from arresting prostitutes to targeting traffickers and sex buyers.The Role of Drugs in Human Trafficking: How traffickers use addiction to manipulate and control victims.Arizona’s Border and Organized Trafficking: The difference between cartel-driven trafficking and individual traffickers.The Online Predator Epidemic: How social media and gaming platforms have become prime recruiting grounds for traffickers.Parenting in the Digital Age: How parents and grandparents can recognize warning signs and protect children from online grooming.Law Enforcement Training and Awareness: Detective Chance’s initiatives to train officers in recognizing and combating trafficking.How the Public Can Help: The importance of reporting suspicious activity and educating potential jurors on the realities of trafficking.
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Scott Lowry, Founder and President of StrataSite
Episode Summary:In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Scott Lowry, a retired lieutenant from the Findlay, Ohio Police Department and an expert in active shooter response training. With a rich background in law enforcement and a passion for preparedness, Scott shares his journey from being inspired by his father’s police career to his current work in training first responders and communities to handle large-scale incidents effectively.Key Topics Discussed:Scott Lowry’s law enforcement background and transition to active shooter response trainingThe impact of Columbine on modern law enforcement strategiesThe evolution of police training and tactical medicineThe Five Plus One Philosophy for active shooter responseChallenges in coordination between police, fire, and EMS during crisesThe role of dispatch centers in managing emergency responseHow schools and communities can prepare and engage in safety planningResources available through StrataSite and the Department of Homeland Security
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National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Bert Eyler, V.P. National Center for Police Defense
Episode Summary:In this episode, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Bert Eyler, VP of the Police Officers Defense Coalition, to discuss critical issues impacting law enforcement across the country. Bert shares insights from his career in law enforcement and explains the legislative efforts his organization is leading to protect officers, including the push to codify qualified immunity into law.The conversation covers:The misconceptions surrounding qualified immunity and why it’s essential for law enforcement.The impact of body-worn cameras and the challenges of public perception and “Monday morning quarterbacking.”The growing problem of prosecutorial bias, including the prosecution of officers in Austin, Texas, under DA Garza.The mental health toll on officers, not from incidents themselves but from prolonged investigations and lack of support.How citizens can advocate for better policies and elect officials who support law enforcement.Bert also highlights ongoing legislative efforts in Congress, including the work with Senator Jim Banks on HR 503 and S.122, and the critical importance of community support and political advocacy.
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The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, former Congressman Anthony D'Esposito, NYPD Det. (Ret)
Episode Title: Congressman Anthony D'Esposito: From First Responder to Political TrailblazerPodcast Host: Betsy SmithGuest: Congressman Anthony D'EspositoEpisode Summary:In this insightful episode, Betsy Smith sits down with Congressman Anthony D'Esposito to explore his journey from serving as a police officer and volunteer fire chief to entering the world of politics. The conversation covers his time in the NYPD, including groundbreaking work in gang takedowns and social media surveillance, his leadership during natural disasters as a fire chief, and how those experiences shaped his approach to public service and governance. D'Esposito shares his passion for common-sense solutions, the critical role of first responders in politics, and the importance of cutting through bureaucratic red tape to deliver real results.Key Topics Covered:D’Esposito’s Law Enforcement Journey: From a young recruit in Brownsville, Brooklyn, to leading pivotal gang takedown operations, including the innovative use of social media in criminal investigations.The Volunteer Fire Service: His time as chief in Island Park during natural disasters like Hurricane Sandy and its impact on his leadership.Transitioning to Politics: Why his firsthand experience with crime, disasters, and government dysfunction motivated him to seek public office.Common Sense and Coalition Building: The role of real-world experience in fostering bipartisan cooperation and effective governance.Crime and Public Safety: Addressing crime, woke prosecutors, and the ongoing efforts to restore law and order in New York and beyond.The Republican Momentum: How the GOP is gaining ground in historically Democrat strongholds through a focus on safety, affordability, and common-sense policies.Notable Quotes:“Law enforcement is one of the best educations you can get for government service.”“We need to focus less on rhetoric and more on delivering results for the American people.”“Republicans are the party of common sense, and voters are seeing that firsthand.”
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The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Amy Hawkins, Chair of Police Week Michigan, Writer and Speaker
Episode Title: The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Amy HawkinsGuest: Amy Hawkins, Chair of Police Week Michigan, Writer, and SpeakerHost: Sergeant Betsy Brantner SmithRelease Date: January 23, 2025Duration: 28:32 minutesEpisode Summary:In this episode, Amy Hawkins shares her journey from a background in communications and political advocacy to her passionate support for law enforcement. She discusses the importance of honoring those who serve, her role in organizing Police Week Michigan, and the challenges law enforcement faces in today's climate. The conversation highlights faith, family values, and grassroots activism in strengthening community support for officers.
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