PODCAST · health
Out with Burnout
by Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD & Philip M. Abraham, MD
Co-hosts Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD, and Philip Abraham, MD, from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis and co-directors of the Department of Pediatrics Office of Faculty Development provide tips on avoiding burnout in the clinical space. Invited guests will join Katherine and Phil every episode to discuss their personal experiences on key wellness topics. Katherine and Phil completed Wellness Coaches education through Wellcoaches® in early 2023. They developed the Physicians as Wellness Coaches Program in Pediatrics to help address physician burnout and build wellness skills and strategies among Pediatric residents as they enter their careers in medicine. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Special Episode 1 - Menopause
September is Women in Medicine Month, a time when the medical community and others celebrate and honor the contributions of women in the field of medicine. In honor of Women in Medicine Month, Out with Burnout is taking a break between seasons 2 and 3 to provide a special episode diving into the topic of Menopause. The Out with Burnout hosts, Drs. Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric and Phil Abraham discuss symptoms and treatments of menopause with Dr. Denise Willers. Dr. Willers is a Professor and Division Chief of Academic Specialists in Obstetrics and Gynecology at WashU Medicine and the Medical Director of the Women’s Health Clinic at Barnes Jewish Hospital. She is a 2025 recipient of the Dean’s Impact Awards, highlighting her community engagement through patient care, advocacy, leadership, and commitment to serving underserved populations.For inquiries on today's topic or requests for future special episode topics, please email [email protected]. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentHosts: Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD, and Philip Abraham, MDExecutive Producer: Megan ShafferGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 18 - Recreational Wellness
This is the 18th of a series of 18 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Recreational Wellbeing with special guest Gammon Earhart, PT, PhD. Dr, Earhart is a Professor of Physical Therapy, Neurology, and Neuroscience, and serves as the Associate Dean for Physical Therapy and Director of Program in Physical Therapy.Sources mentioned in this episode:Exercise reshapes aging bodies and minds - Science DirectDaily steps and all-cause mortality: a meta-analysis of 15 international cohorts- The Lancet, Public Health JournalEffects of dance on gait and balance in Parkinson's disease: a comparison of partnered and nonpartnered dance movement - PubMedThis is the final episode of Season 2. Out with Burnout will return in a few months for Season 3.Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentHosts: Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD, and Philip Abraham, MDExecutive Producer: Megan ShafferGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 17 - Social Wellbeing
This is the 17th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Physical Wellbeing with special guest Patrick Hill, MA, PhD, life purpose researcher. Sources mentioned in this episode:"Social capital and burnout among mental healthcare providers" - Journal of Mental Health"Could the connectedness of primary health care workers involved in social networks affect their job burnout? A cross-sectional study in six counties, Central China" - BMC Health Services Journal"Promoting a sense of belonging, engagement, and collegiality to reduce burnout: a mixed methods study among undergraduate medical students in a non-Western, Asian context" - BMC Medical Education Journal"Social connectedness as a determinant of mental health: A scoping review" - PLOS ONEAffiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 16 - Occupational Wellbeing
This is the 16th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Occupational Wellbeing with special guest Bradley Evanoff, MD, MPH, occupational health and safety expert.Sources mentioned in this episode:"Healthcare Occupations: Characteristics of the Employed" - U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics"Physical, psychological and occupational consequences of job burnout: A systematic review of prospective studies" - PLOS One"The Business Case for Investing in Physician Well-being" - JAMA Internal MedicineAffiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 15 - Financial Wellbeing
This is the 15th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Physical Wellbeing with special guest Adam Goldstein, CPA/ABV, financial advisor.Sources mentioned in this episode:"The Effect of Understanding Issues of Personal Finance on the Well-being of Physicians in Training" - WMJ"An assessment of residents' and fellows' personal finance literacy: an unmet medical education need" - International Journal of Medical Education"Well-being Assessment of Medical Professionals in Progressive Levels of Training: Derived from the WHO-5 Well-being Index" - CureusAffiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 14 - Mental Wellbeing
This is the 14th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Physical Wellbeing with special guest David Carr, MD, dementia and geriatrics specialist.Sources mentioned in this episode:"Epidemiology and Risk Factors for Dementia" - Psychiatric Clinics of North America Journal"Inequalities in dementia incidence between six racial and ethnic groups over 14 years" - Alzheimer's & Dementia JournalAffiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 13 - Environmental Wellbeing
This is the 13th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Environmental Wellbeing with special guest Meg Krejci, wellness consultant for mindfulness.Sources mentioned in this episode:"Interventions to Improve Mental Health, Well-Being, Physical Health, and Lifestyle Behaviors in Physicians and Nurses: A Systematic Review" - American Journal of Health Promotion"The Impact of Psychological Interventions with Elements of Mindfulness (PIM) on Empathy, Well-Being, and Reduction of Burnout in Physicians: A Systematic Review" - International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health"Stress management in Medicine" - Revista da Associacao Medica BrasileiraAffiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 12 - Physical Wellbeing
This is the 12th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Physical Wellbeing with special guest Brenden Lucey, MD, sleep medicine specialist.Sources mentioned in this episode:"Most Physicians Sleep Fewer Hours Than Needed For Peak Performance, Report Says" - American College of Chest Physicians"Sleep health is associated with next-day mindful attention in healthcare workers" - Sleep Health"The Impact of Sleep and Circadian Disorders on Physician Burnout" - CHEST Journal"Emotional Labor and Depressive Symptoms Among Healthcare Workers: The Role of Sleep" - Workplace Health and Safety Journal"Work-Family Conflict and Depression Among Healthcare Workers: The Role of Sleep and Decision Latitude" - Workplace Health and Safety Journal"Associations of physician burnout with career engagement and quality of patient care: systematic review and meta-analysis" - The BMJResources: Episode 10, Season 1: Gratitude Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 11 - Spiritual Wellbeing
This is the 11th of a series of 20 episodes focused on understanding the wellness wheel and providing tips and tricks on how to improve your life. This month's topic is Spiritual Wellbeing with special guest Rev. Callista Isabelle, Director for Religious, Spiritual and Ethical Life at Washington University in St. Louis.Sources mentioned in this episode:"Spirituality linked with better health outcomes, patient care" - Harvard School of Public Health“Spirituality in Serious Illness and Health” — JAMA"Tracy Balboni: How Spirituality Can Affect Caregiving" — Harvard UniversityResources:Episode 10, Season 1: Gratitude Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Out with Burnout Season 2 - Trailer
Join Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD, and Philip Abraham, MD, co-directors of the Washington University Department of Pediatrics Office of Faculty Development, for the second season of Out with Burnout.This season of Out with Burnout features experts from the St. Louis area, discussing the various spokes of the Wellness Wheel. Topics discussed this season will range from social wellbeing to financial wellness and occupational wellness. New episodes will be published monthly, starting in January 2025.
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Episode 10 - Gratitude
This is the tenth of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Gratitude with special guest Michelle Gill, MD, PhD, Homer E Nash Jr. Professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Allergy and Pulmonary Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 9 - Physical Health
This is the ninth of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Physical Health with special guest Jagruti Anadkat, MD, associate professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Newborn Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Jagruti is a wellness champion for the Department of Pediatrics. Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 8 - Connection
This is the eighth of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Connection with special guest Jason G. Newland, MD, MEd, (former) professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Infectious Diseases at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Jason was also the Schnuck Family Endowed Chair in Pediatric Infectious Diseases and the vice chair of Community Health & Strategic Planning.Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 7 - Creative Activities
This is the seventh of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Creative Activities with special guest Tosin Adeyanju, MD, assistant professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Hospital Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Tosin is also associate program director ofCurriculum for the Pediatric Residency Program.Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 6 - Strengths
This is the sixth of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Strengths with special guest William B. Johansen, MD, assistant professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Newborn Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Will is also board certified in Hospice and Palliative Medicine.Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 5 - Emotional Balance
This is the fifth of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Emotional Balance with special guest Lisa M. Moscoso, MD, PhD, professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Hospital Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Lisa is also the Hospital Medicine division director.Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 4 - Finding Purpose
This is the fourth of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Finding Purpose with special guest David A. Hunstad, MD, Arnold W. Strauss, MD Endowed Professor for Mentoring in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Infectious Diseases at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. David is also the Infectious Diseases division director and scientific co-director of the Children's Discovery Institute.Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 3 - Self-Compassion
This is the third of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Self-Compassion with special guest Barbara B. Warner, MD, F. Sessions Cole Professor of Newborn Medicine in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Newborn Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Barb is also the Newborn Medicine division director.Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 2 - Self-Leadership
This is the second of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Self-Leadership with special guest Fahd Ahmad, MD, MSCI, associate professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Emergency Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Fahd is also the director of research for the Pediatric Emergency Medicine Fellowship.. Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Episode 1 - Vision
This is the first of a series of ten episodes focused on improving wellbeing by learning skills for personal wellness improvement. This month's topic is Vision with special guest Jennifer G. Duncan, MD, professor of Pediatrics in the Department of Pediatrics Division of Critical Care Medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Jenny is also the director of wellness for Graduate Medical Education at WashU. Every episode features a feel good story, brief meditation and guest discussion. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Out with Burnout - Trailer
This first season of Out with Burnout features guests from the Department of Pediatrics at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis and focuses on wellbeing. Topics discusses this season will range from vision to creative activities and personal health. We will learn skills on personal wellness and improvement from our co-hosts Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD, and Philip Abraham, MD, co-directors of the Pediatrics Office of Faculty Development. New episodes will be published monthly.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Co-hosts Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD, and Philip Abraham, MD, from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis and co-directors of the Department of Pediatrics Office of Faculty Development provide tips on avoiding burnout in the clinical space. Invited guests will join Katherine and Phil every episode to discuss their personal experiences on key wellness topics. Katherine and Phil completed Wellness Coaches education through Wellcoaches® in early 2023. They developed the Physicians as Wellness Coaches Program in Pediatrics to help address physician burnout and build wellness skills and strategies among Pediatric residents as they enter their careers in medicine. Affiliated with Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis; Department of Pediatrics; Office of Faculty DevelopmentExecutive Producer: Katie CammarataGuest Relations & Management Support: Megan Shaffer
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Katherine Rivera-Spoljaric, MD & Philip M. Abraham, MD
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