The Optimize Podcast

In this episode, we explore the shift from manual market intelligence to the automated, high-security future of bidding. Guest Tim Brett discusses his transition from GovWin IQ to VisibleThread and the vision behind the 7.0 platform. We tackle the frustration of FOIA processes, the "last mile" of proposal compliance, and how to use data to "fail fast" on the wrong bids.     Topics Discussed: The transition from human intelligence to automated data scraping. VisibleThread 7.0: Native SAM.gov integration and data-backed scoring. The "Compliance Fortress": Avoiding immediate disqualification on complex tenders. International markets: Exploring "Find a Tender" (UK) and "OzTender" (Australia).     The Chicago hot dog rule: A lesson in customer intimacy. Timestamps: 00:29 – Tim Brett’s background at GovWin IQ.   02:25 – The "Investigative Journalist" approach to market intelligence.     08:52 – Why market intelligence providers still matter in the age of SAM.gov.   17:58 – Deep dive into VisibleThread 7.0.       24:08 – Proposal shredding and compliance matrices.       32:38 – A Chicago lesson on knowing your customer.     Additional Links: Website: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/ Host LinkedIn: Chris Hamm Guest LinkedIn: Tim Brett

In this episode of The Optimize Podcast, we sit down with Harrison Smith, a seasoned leader in federal acquisition innovation. Smith recounts his journey from a Presidential Management Fellow to leading digitalization efforts at the IRS and acting as an Innovation Advocate at the FDIC. The conversation centers on a shocking reality: the high cost of government "silence." Smith explains how complex, 80-page RFPs act as a financial barrier that drives away small businesses and startups, often costing companies $25,000 per page to respond. He provides a blueprint for change through the Pilot IRS program, which utilized 12-page solicitations and oral pitches to award contracts for cutting-edge tech in record time. Topics Discussed: The Path of an Innovation Advocate: Moving from traditional NAVSEA contracting to innovation roles at DHS, IRS, and FDIC. The "Wired" Procurement Myth: How a lack of government communication is interpreted by industry as a pre-selected award, leading firms to abandon bids. The Pilot IRS Model: Using 12-page solicitations and a 35-day cycle to ingest paper tax returns and de-anonymize cryptocurrency. The $25,000 Page: Unpacking the real-world cost of solicitation complexity for industry partners. CMMC & The "Last Mile" of Security: Navigating the friction between innovation and the looming November 2026 CMMC Level 2 requirements. Incentivizing Federal Risk: How industry recognition (like Fed100 awards) encourages government personnel to prioritize mission outcomes over paperwork. Useful Timestamps: 01:11 – Career Evolution: From PMF to FDIC Innovation Advocate. 08:12 – The "Wired" Misconception: Why silence breeds industry distrust. 12:15 – Understanding "P-Win" and Industry Gate Reviews. 17:00 – The "Pilot IRS" Blueprint: Awarding contracts in 35 days. 23:23 – The $25,000 Page: The actual cost of GovCon complexity. 32:08 – Security vs. Innovation: CMMC Level 2 and FedRAMP challenges. 38:00 – Offsetting Risk: Recognizing government innovators. Additional Links: VisibleThread Podcasts: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/ Chris Hamm (Host) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/ Harrison Smith (Guest) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harrison-smith-0029ba4/

The federal government is increasingly looking outside traditional procurement cycles to find the next generation of technology. In this deep-dive episode, Angela Donahoo joins host Chris Hamm to demystify the "alphabet soup" of innovation authorities—including SBIR, STT, and CSOs.     Angie recounts her career pivot from traditional federal contracting to standing up GSA’s first innovation-focused pilot teams. She explains how the Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) program acts as non-dilutive R&D funding for American small businesses and how the Phase III authority allows the government to rapidly scale those innovations on a sole-source basis. The conversation also tackles current policy debates, including the "SBIR Mill" controversy and the importance of leadership support in fostering a culture of critical thinking within the acquisition workforce.     Topics Discussed   The Pivot to Innovation: Moving from traditional FAR-based contracting to the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) and GSA pilot programs.       The SBIR/STT Landscape: Definitions of these key R&D programs and the critical differences in their partnership requirements.       Bridging the "Valley of Death": How the SBIR Phase III authority helps companies transition from small pilots to multi-million dollar production contracts.       Commercial Solutions Openings (CSOs): A breakdown of the CSO methodology as a streamlined "Shark Tank" style solicitation process.       Policy & Reauthorization: Understanding the "SBIR Mill" issue and how new legislation pushes oversight back to individual agencies.       The Future of Acquisition: Why streamlined authorities are essential for an overworked acquisition workforce and the likelihood of these methods entering the FAR.     Useful Timestamps   01:12 – Angie's background: From the Federal Career Intern Program to GSA FedSim.       04:48 – Partnering with DIUX (now DIU) to implement the first Commercial Solutions Openings at GSA.       07:43 – The Dog Earmuff Example: A real-world look at why specialized R&D is needed.       10:23 – Breakdown of SBIR vs. STT and the structure of Phase I and Phase II awards.       13:28 – Where to find opportunities: The DSIP portal and SBIR.gov.       16:45 – Scaling the GSA Phase III Innovation Team to a $5 billion portfolio.       26:39 – Tackling the "SBIR Mill" controversy and the reauthorization landscape.       32:15 – Deep dive into CSOs: Process vs. Contract Type.       42:11 – Managing institutional disruption and the importance of leadership "having your back".     Additional Links The Optimize Podcast Website: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/ Host Chris Hamm on LinkedIn: Chris Hamm Guest Angela Donahoo on LinkedIn: Angela Donahoo

In this episode of the Optimize podcast, host Chris Hamm sits down with Jim Ghiloni, CEO of GhilCon, LLC, and a seasoned veteran of government contracting. Jim shares his unconventional path from being a Soviet history expert to becoming a pivotal architect of GSA’s most successful contract vehicles, including Alliant and Oasis. The conversation provides a deep dive into the evolution of Government-Wide Acquisition Contracts (GWACs), the strategic implementation of self-scoring methodologies to reduce protests, and the nuances of the private sector's approach to capture management. Jim also shares his "special superpower" for managing diverse stakeholders and provides a free masterclass on coaching technical teams for oral presentations—explaining why passion and authenticity beat a "polished" sales pitch every time. Topics Discussed The "Kremlinology" of Contracting: How a background in Soviet history translates to navigating the complex halls of government. The Birth of Alliant and Oasis: The inside story of designing enterprise-wide vehicles and managing the weight of stakeholder expectations. Self-Scoring & Objective Evaluations: How moving away from subjective trade-offs revolutionized the procurement process and minimized legal hurdles. The Private Sector "Black Box": What industry gets wrong about government intent and how companies analyze RFPs with "Talmudic discipline." Mastering Oral Presentations: Why the "Paper Tiger" fails in the room and how to coach technical experts to speak with passion. The "Disney Point": A practical tip for presentation body language rooted in Disney lore. Useful Timestamps 01:26 – Jim’s transition from Soviet History to the D.C. tech sector. 04:37 – Leading the Navy Group and the origin story of the Alliant Program. 08:58 – The importance of industry outreach and stakeholder management. 13:01 – Deep dive into self-scoring methodologies and objective criteria. 17:37 – Transitioning to the private sector: What Jim didn't know about "Capture." 26:00 – How industry over-analyzes every comma and adjective in an RFP. 32:33 – Why Oral Presentations are the ultimate truth-teller in evaluations. 40:19 – The Orals coaching process: Content, narratives, and "The Disney Point." Additional Links The Optimize Podcast Website: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/ Host Chris Hamm on LinkedIn: Chris Hamm Guest Jim Ghiloni on LinkedIn: Jim Ghiloni

Modernization isn’t just a technology problem—it’s a funding model, risk model, and governance problem. In this episode of Optimize, Chris Hamm talks with Vaughn Noga, former EPA Chief Information Officer, about what it takes to modernize in government when every change creates operational churn and oversight pressure.Vaughn explains why Working Capital Funds can enable continuous modernization (instead of one-and-done “projects”), how boards and transparency can create accountability, and why some modernization funding approaches don’t scale when the same infrastructure needs refresh every few years.They also tackle the tension between innovation and compliance including the rising bar of FedRAMP and what vendors should do differently when trying to break in: build credibility with the people closest to the tech and risk, not just the top of the org chart. Useful timestamps (MM:SS)03:02–03:32 — Leadership reality: too many “rocks” to pick up at once08:17–12:11 — Working Capital Funds: continuous modernization + governance model14:27–15:18 — Vendor engagement: “work from the bottom” to earn trust18:31–19:12 — FedRAMP as a high bar for commercial innovators21:47–22:28 — Why TMF loans for recurring infrastructure refresh don’t make sense43:32–44:12 — “We tried that, it didn’t work” mindset—and why it stalls progress Topics discussedWorking Capital Funds and continuous modernizationModernization risk: operational churn, oversight, and adoption realitiesFedRAMP/compliance barriers and innovation tradeoffsTMF vs repeatable funding for infrastructure refreshShared services and consolidation: what’s realistic vs wishful thinkingHow industry should engage CIO orgs (credibility, bottom-up buy-in)LinksPodcast page: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Host LinkedIn (Chris Hamm): https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/Guest LinkedIn (Vaughn Noga): https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaughn-noga-984360299/

What’s really changing in the GovCon bid and contracts landscape—and what does that mean for the people doing the work? In this episode, host Chris Hamm brings the evaluator viewpoint (1,000+ proposals reviewed across written evaluations, orals, demos, and source selections) into a practical conversation with Kyle Peterson, a former aerospace contracts manager who now leads Customer Success at VisibleThread.Transcript series-4-optimize-po…They walk through the “real day job” friction: parsing Section I clause lists and flowdowns, catching security and classification requirements that don’t belong, building compliance matrices, and comparing multiple RFP amendments—work that can quietly consume entire days. Kyle shares concrete time-savings examples (hours → minutes) and why those gains aren’t just productivity—they’re also risk mitigation.Transcript series-4-optimize-po…The second half shifts to AI: how GenAI can support briefings, alignment to prior work, and early drafting—paired with deterministic methods that show exactly where requirements appear in the document. They also address the new wave of NDAs and customer clauses that restrict proprietary data from being ingested into learning/training models, plus the questions every GovCon team should ask about data handling and controls before adopting AI-enabled tools.Transcript series-4-optimize-po…Useful timestamps (MM:SS)00:02 — Intro + why this episode is different (VisibleThread-focused; Chris “plays the novice”)Transcript series-4-optimize-po…00:43 — Kyle’s background: aerospace contracts manager → Customer Success leaderTranscript series-4-optimize-po…02:17–03:38 — Clause/flowdown reviews: “two screens,” hours of cross-referencing, and the real pain pointTranscript series-4-optimize-po…06:51–09:25 — How teams start: upload docs + persona-based workflows; SAM.gov integration and lifecycle viewTranscript series-4-optimize-po…12:19–14:45 — GenAI vs deterministic: briefings, alignment, and “show me where it is in the doc”Transcript series-4-optimize-po…16:30–17:52 — Writing + audience: translating technical content for audits (DCAA) and building trustTranscript series-4-optimize-po…18:30–19:25 — Time savings examples: “shall” extraction (hours → minutes) + amendment comparisons (8 hours saved)Transcript series-4-optimize-po…19:51–20:40 — Who buys tools like this (and the “VisibleThread alumni base” effect)Transcript series-4-optimize-po…22:09–27:48 — Market shifts: non-traditionals, OTAs/CSOs realities, and why tools can’t rely on a single data sourceTranscript series-4-optimize-po…33:06–35:43 — NDAs + AI: “you shall not” clauses, model learning, and what to ask vendorsTranscript series-4-optimize-po…38:56–41:24 — Evaluator perspective: why tools fell out of evaluation, and why AI is coming back to speed awardsTranscript series-4-

In this episode of Optimize, host Chris Hamm sits down with Lisa Grant, a veteran acquisition leader whose career spans mission-critical federal contracting and senior procurement leadership, including serving as Deputy Clerk and Chief Procurement Officer for the U.S. House. Lisa walks through the experiences that shaped her leadership style, from high-tempo environments where timelines and consequences are real, to complex procurements that draw intense scrutiny.A central thread of the conversation is procurement integrity, not as a buzzword, but as a set of deliberate behaviors and guardrails. Lisa shares a standout behind-the-scenes moment from a high-profile source selection when unlisted attendees began piling into the room and how she enforced the structure so the process stayed fair, credible, and defensible.Lisa also explains the practical mechanics that protect trust: disciplined communications, clear roles, visible processes, and the leadership backbone to hold the line even when senior stakeholders want updates. The episode closes with hard-earned advice on reputation, trust, and leaving every job with integrity.

In this episode of Optimize, host Chris Hamm sits down with Soraya Correa—former Chief Procurement Officer and Senior Procurement Executive at the Department of Homeland Security—to get specific about what it actually takes to modernize acquisition from the inside. Soraya walks through her career path across procurement and program leadership, then explains how she launched the DHS Procurement Innovation Lab by focusing on speed, outcomes, and the flexibilities already available “within the four corners of the FAR.”They dig into what “top cover” looks like in practice: letting contracting officers try new approaches, learning from failure, and sharing repeatable playbooks across government. Soraya also addresses the risk environment leaders face today—and why she believes the acquisition workforce (not legislation) drives the most meaningful reform.Finally, Soraya shares what she’s building now as CEO of the National Industries for the Blind (NIB)—supporting the AbilityOne ecosystem, expanding services like closeout support, and creating real economic independence for Americans who are blind or visually impaired.Useful timestamps (MM:SS)00:04 — Welcome + why Soraya’s DHS acquisition role matteredTranscript s04-Soraya Correa Th…00:59 — Soraya’s career path: contract specialist → CPO (and why it took 40 years)Transcript s04-Soraya Correa Th…03:35 — Moving to the program side: learning IT and building acquisition muscle07:32 — The Procurement Innovation Lab origin story: “I didn’t ask for permission”Transcript s04-Soraya Correa Th…09:47 — Starting with closeouts: removing friction and cleaning up the backlogTranscript s04-Soraya Correa Th…10:40 — “Show me” evaluations: using practical tests (including “bad code”) to assess vendors12:10 — Coalition of the willing: sharing playbooks across agencies (and why reform starts with practitioners)14:20 — Do leaders still provide “top cover” for innovation in 2026?Transcript s04-Soraya Correa Th…17:50 — “The answer can’t be no”: partnering with political leadership, legal, IT, and CFO21:52 — The most unexpected DHS buy (and what it taught her about mission support)Transcript s04-Soraya Correa Th…25:00 — What NIB does: AbilityOne, Skillcraft, and building employment pathways29:14 — Marketing services like closeouts and accessibility at scaleTranscript s04-Soraya Correa Th…32:01 — Wrap-up and where to connect

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Chris Hamm sits down with David Rothzeid — Principal at Shield Capital, U.S. Air Force reservist, and former acquisition lead at Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) — for a candid look at how protests, OTAs, and SBIR policy really shape DoD innovation.David walks through his journey from ROTC and early Air Force contracting roles to DIU, where he helped stand up the Commercial Solutions Opening (CSO) model and use Other Transaction Authority (OTAs) to pull non-traditional tech companies into defense. He explains how a high-profile production OT for Raincloud was protested and sustained on a “ticky-tacky” issue — and how that single GAO decision effectively froze enthusiasm for production OTs and hurt both the company and the mission.Chris and David then connect that experience to today’s landscape: new “speed of delivery first” guidance from the Secretary, the FORGE and SPEED Acts, and why schedule — not cost or performance — must become the sacred variable for defense acquisition.In the second half, David talks about leaving active duty to join Shield Capital, what he actually does as a venture investor for dual-use startups, and why he’s been pushing hard on SBIR/STTR reform to shut down “SBIR mills” that live off endless grants with no commercialization intent. He shares his work supporting the INNOVATE Act, his view of how SBIR should work, and how he helps founders decide when (and when not) to pursue DoD.They close with a lighter segment on Sweat Equity, David’s early-morning workout and networking group on the National Mall — a healthier, more human way for the national security community to connect.In this episode, you’ll learn:How OTAs evolved from NASA’s early days to DIU’s CSO model — and why their flexibility and collaborative nature matter so much.What actually happened in the Raincloud protest, why GAO sustained it, and how it chilled production OT usage across DoD.Why protests and cultural risk aversion make it harder for leaders to override decisions, even when they believe they were right.How new guidance and legislation aim to make speed of delivery the primary success metric for defense acquisition.What “SBIR mills” are, why David calls them exploitative, and how the INNOVATE Act could reset incentives toward commercialization.How a national-security-focused VC like Shield Capital works with startups on capability gaps, GTM strategy, and when to tackle DoD.Why leaving uniform actually made it easier for David to engage Congress and senior leaders on acquisition reform.The story behind Sweat Equity and why he thinks we need new ways to build community in the defense innovation ecosystem.Timestamps (approximate)00:00 – 04:10 – Meet David Rothzeid: ROTC, discovering acquisition, early Air Force contracting roles, and the road to DIU.04:10 – 08:10 – Joining DIU, DIUX 2.0, and the push for new authorities like OTAs and CSOs.08:10 – 12:30 – OTAs 101: NASA origins, DARPA, codifying prototype authority, and why DIU built the CSO process.12:30 – 16:30 – “Being right but early is the same as being wrong”: institutional pushback, being called a heretic, and the Raincloud production OT.16:30 – 20:30 – The Oracle protest, GAO’s decision, and how one sustained protest killed momentum for production OTs.20:30 – 24:30 – Secretary’s memo, FORGE/SPEED Acts, and elevating schedule over cost and performance.24:30 – 28:30 – Leaving active duty for Shield Capital, staying in the reserves, and discovering how accessible Congress and senior leaders can be.28:30 – 32:30 – SBIR/STTR, SBIR mills, the INNOVATE Act, and why perpetual grants are “asinine.”32:30 – 35:30 – What David actually does as a VC for founders: government translator, strategy coach, and talent advisor.35:30 – 36:30 – Sweat Equity workouts and closing thoughts.Resources & links🔗 Optimize Podcast hub: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/🔗 Connect with host Chris Hamm on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/🔗 Connect with guest David Rothzeid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-rothzeid-7a116961

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Chris Hamm (CEO, FIN Acquisitions & former SES at GSA AAS) sits down with Robert (“Bob”) Niewood, a career GSA acquisition and systems leader turned consultant, to unpack how federal procurement actually works under the hood.Bob walks through his 20+ year journey at GSA — from intern and contracting officer to director of systems and HCA for the Multiple Award Schedules program — and explains why the uniqueness of federal appropriations and fund flows keeps breaking commercial tools. He argues that in many mission spaces, custom-built solutions still beat COTS and low-code, and that focusing only on contract writing systems badly mis-frames the real problem.Chris and Bob dig into the executive order on centralized procurement and OCAS, the push to move GWACs and MACs into GSA, the coming explosion of BPAs under FAR changes, and AI’s emerging “cottage industry” of one-off pilots. Throughout, Bob stresses business architecture, financial integration, and workforce capacity as the real constraints — and offers pragmatic advice for both agencies and GovCon teams trying to navigate what’s next.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why “the financial tail wags the dog” in federal procurement — and what that means for system design and data.How GSA’s mission and revenue model make it fundamentally different from a “back office” contracting shop.The real trade-offs between COTS, low-code, and custom-built acquisition systems in a legacy-heavy environment.Why contract writing is just one small piece of a much larger business system (funds, audits, oversight, post-award).The hidden complexity of OCAS and centralized procurement for “simple” common goods and services.How GWACs, MACs, and new BPAs will stress current data models and legacy systems.Why AI in acquisition today looks a lot like the early days of dashboards and RPA — and what might actually scale by 2026.Timestamps[00:00] Meet Bob Niewood – Philly sports, early GSA days, and how he fell in love with government contracting.[06:30] Lotus Notes, paper files, and the first attempt to move GSA into a commercial ERP — and why it failed.[10:00] Why federal money “is not commercial” – appropriations rules, one-year vs multi-year funds, and custom finance logic.[14:00] Custom vs COTS vs low-code: when GSA must build its own mission systems and where commercial tools still fit.[18:20] Can GSA still be its own integrator? Workforce constraints, DRPs, and the tax of transformation on 1102s.[21:00] “It’s not about clauses” – reframing acquisition systems as end-to-end business systems, not just contract writing tools.[27:20] Why “one system for everything” usually fails — and how GWACs and MACs complicate any consolidation strategy.[29:10] Moving contract vehicles from NIH or NASA into GSA: practical realities, data migration, and integration pain.[33:40] OCAS and centralized procurement: why making simple buys “more complex” can create a false economy.[38:50] Enterprise pricing vs local buys – how timing, specs, and IDVs could solve more problems than new central offices.[40:55] What will work by 2026? A more focused procurement ecosystem, incremental modernization, and better alignment inside GSA.[42:30] AI as the next “wild west” – pilots, cottage industries, and finding use cases that scale across agencies.[44:50] BPA boom, legacy data problems, and why intelligent automation still has huge headroom in acquisition workflows.[46:00] Bob’s parting advice and why experiencing life as a contractor (yes, register in SAM) can be eye-opening.

Rob Burton brings over three decades of legal and procurement experience to this candid episode of the Optimize Podcast. In conversation with host Chris Hamm, Rob dives into the growing use of AI in bid protests—some of which are generating “hallucinated” claims that frustrate GAO reviewers.They break down the scope of the FAR overhaul, the implications of GSA’s OneGov consolidation effort, and how current acquisition trends could impact competition, pricing, and policy for years to come.From protest reform to the OEM reseller debate, this is a must-listen for GovCon professionals navigating a wave of change in federal acquisition.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Rob’s federal background & GSA happy hour banter (00:30)Bid protest reform under Trump & Biden (04:20)AI-generated protests and GAO pushback (06:40)Executive orders and procurement strategy (10:45)OneGov and GSA centralization risks (18:30)OEMs, resellers, and the pricing squeeze (23:00)FAR overhaul and the “600-page” rule change (26:00)Debriefing breakdowns and protest drivers (42:30)What needs fixing next in acquisition (48:00)

Guest:Alan Thomas, Founder of AlphaTango Strategies & Former Commissioner, GSA FAS🎧 Host:Chris Hamm, CEO of FIN Acquisitions & Former SES, GSA AAS Defense📄 Episode Description:In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Chris Hamm kicks off Series 4 with a powerful conversation with Alan Thomas—former Commissioner of GSA’s Federal Acquisition Service. Together, they dig into what it really means to lead through transformation in the world of federal contracting.Alan reflects on his time at GSA, including integrating 18F, managing risk tolerance, and prioritizing culture over compliance. He shares hard-won leadership advice for anyone working in or around government acquisition—whether you're navigating reform, building teams, or just trying to stay focused in a sea of noise.From public sector leadership to private sector insights, this episode offers a rare, honest look at the pressures and purpose behind decision-making in GovCon.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Alan’s journey from consulting to federal leadership (02:00)Leading GSA’s Federal Acquisition Service (06:00)Managing risk, reform, and cultural tension (14:00)Lessons from integrating 18F and TTS (17:00)What focus really means in public service (13:30)Culture vs. compliance and leading with trust (27:00)Thoughts on AI, innovation, and the risk-averse mindset (28:00)Why “every storm runs out of rain” (37:40)🔗 Useful Links:Listen to more episodes: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with Chris Hamm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/

Episode Title: 2025 Unfolded – Essential Insights from the Optimize Podcast2025 is here, and the lessons from last year’s top conversations are more relevant than ever. In this special compilation, The Optimize Podcast host Jeff Shapiro takes you through the most valuable moments from Series 3—insights you can use to sharpen your strategy and stay ahead in the evolving world of government contracting.You’ll hear highlights from our most popular and talked-about episodes, organized into four timely themes:DOGE Policies – Navigating the New NormalHow the Department of Government Efficiency is reshaping contracting, from terminations to compliance.Competitive Intelligence and Bid Protests – Staying Ahead of the GameWinning strategies for gathering intel and navigating protests to secure contracts.Building Relationships – Why Connections Still MatterWhy trust, networking, and collaboration remain the backbone of GovCon success.Adapting to Technological and Cultural Change – Embracing the FutureHow contractors are leveraging tech, AI, and cultural shifts to drive innovation.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome to 2025 Unfolded03:15 – DOGE Policies – Navigating the New Normal15:40 – Competitive Intelligence and Bid Protests – Staying Ahead of the Game29:20 – Building Relationships – Why Connections Still Matter42:05 – Adapting to Technological and Cultural Change – Embracing the Future55:30 – Closing thoughts and key takeawaysUseful Links:More episodes of The Optimize PodcastConnect with host Jeff Shapiro on LinkedIn

Episode Title:FAR 2.0, Fewer People, Bigger Bets: Surviving the Next GovCon Wave👤 Guest:Erv Koehler, former Assistant Commissioner, GSA’s Office of General Supplies and Services🎧 Host:Jeff Shapiro, Optimize Podcast📄 Episode Description:In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro is joined by Erv Koehler, a former senior leader at GSA, to discuss what FAR 2.0 and current procurement reforms really mean for industry. With decades of acquisition experience inside the federal government, Erv breaks down how shrinking workforces, growing complexity, and shifting cultural mindsets are colliding inside federal acquisition teams.From the real-world limitations of DOGE to why AI is both promising and problematic, Erv offers a frank, detailed view of the issues affecting buyers and contractors alike. They explore how leadership sets the tone for risk tolerance, what contractors get wrong about relationship-building, and why the future of GovCon will demand more strategy, patience, and adaptability than ever before.Whether you’re a small business, large integrator, or consultant trying to navigate change, this episode delivers practical, eye-opening insights you won’t want to miss.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Erv’s unexpected path into federal acquisition (01:30)The problem with shrinking acquisition teams (05:45)What FAR 2.0 actually changes—and what it doesn’t (09:20)AI’s role in acquisition and what to watch for (22:00)Risk tolerance and leadership culture in contracting (26:00)The impact of DOGE reform and where it fell short (30:20)Consultant relationships, pricing, and small business access (38:15)GSA schedules, TDR, and evolving competition (45:00)Strategic advice for navigating the GovCon landscape (56:30)🔗 Useful Links:🎧 Listen to more episodes: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/🔗 Connect with host Jeff Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/🔗 Connect with guest Erv Koehler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erv-koehler-63a67a38/

No Corners Cut: Building, Growing, and Selling in GovCon👤 Guest:Donna Honeycutt, Co-founder & former COO of WWC Global🎧 Host:Jeff Shapiro, Optimize Podcast📄 Episode Description:In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro is joined by Donna Honeycutt, co-founder and former COO of WWC Global—a pioneering government contracting firm known for its commitment to military spouses, compliance, and culture.Donna shares how she and her co-founder built a GovCon business overseas from scratch, scaled it over 15 years, and sold it with zero due diligence findings. From pricing pressures and CPARS credibility to hiring challenges and values-based leadership, Donna unpacks the real-world experiences behind growing and exiting a successful federal contracting company.She also speaks candidly about the realities of competing with big business, the problem with regulatory inertia, and how integrity became WWC’s most valuable differentiator.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Building WWC Global from Naples, Italy (03:15)Creating opportunities for military spouses (06:40)Staying audit-proof and compliance-focused from day one (13:30)Growing while staying values-aligned (20:00)Managing pricing and perception in a competitive GovCon space (26:45)The exit strategy and selling the business (34:00)What big businesses get wrong—and small businesses get right (55:00)Why regulatory change is overdue in federal acquisition (01:03:00)🔗 Useful Links:Listen to more episodes: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with Jeff Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with Donna Honeycutt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-segal-huneycutt-a441619/

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, Jeff Shapiro speaks with Allison Ritz, a GovCon expert and Director of Product Marketing at VisibleThread. Together, they unpack the shifting rules of federal procurement—from the ripple effects of the MAPS acquisition to the rise of AI in capture and proposal processes.Allison discusses what consolidation really means for niche contractors, why subcontracting shouldn’t be viewed as a fallback, and how strategic positioning is more important than ever in the face of fewer—but broader—acquisitions. She also offers a grounded, practical perspective on AI’s role in GovCon: where it helps, where it doesn’t, and what business leaders often get wrong when adopting it.With insights into human decision-making, relationship-driven sales, and the future of proposal work, this is a must-listen for anyone navigating change in the federal market.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Allison’s path into public sector SaaS and GovCon (02:30)The MAPS acquisition and what it signals for the market (06:00)Professional services and consolidation risks (11:15)Subcontracting as a strategy, not a demotion (19:00)Capture planning and human decision-making (33:00)AI and proposal development: hype vs. value (43:30)AI implementation mistakes and what leaders overlook (51:00)How to stay competitive and adapt (58:00)🔗 Useful Links:Listen to more episodes: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with Jeff Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with Allison Ritz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-ritz-cf-apmp-111a6663/

Guest:Chris Hamm, former Director, GSA Assisted Acquisition Services🎧 Host:Jeff Shapiro, Optimize Podcast📄 Episode Description:In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, Jeff Shapiro sits down with former GSA leader Chris Hamm to explore the state—and future—of federal procurement. With firsthand experience at the helm of GSA’s Assisted Acquisition Services, Chris shares his perspective on the challenges of consolidating contracts, the tension between innovation and risk aversion, and the cultural drivers behind federal protest trends.They tackle what the recent executive order on contract consolidation really means, how government-wide contracts are evolving, and why acquisition teams often default to “safe” over smart. Chris also discusses the SBIR program, eBuy critiques, and how to build a better, more accountable procurement system.Whether you're an acquisition professional, contractor, or policy follower, this episode delivers sharp, honest insights you won't hear anywhere else.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Chris’s path into GSA and early federal service (03:20)Executive order on contract consolidation (08:12)Culture vs. policy: Why risk aversion dominates (19:30)Protest culture and unintended consequences (25:00)GWACs and the potential impact on programs like NASA SEWP (30:00)RFO/FAR overhaul and tech modernization (39:15)Thoughts on eBuy, automation, and procurement platforms (47:30)SBIR program and small business innovation (1:00:55)Chris’s current work supporting GovCon companies (1:04:30)🔗 Useful Links:Optimize Podcast: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with host Jeff Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with guest Chris Hamm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hamm-304103/

In this episode of the Visible Threads Optimized Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro speaks with Amber Kodish, a seasoned expert in government contracting. They discuss Amber's journey into the GovCon space, the cyclical nature of government contracting, and the current challenges and opportunities within the industry. Amber emphasizes the importance of understanding core capabilities, networking, and building relationships in the federal sector. The conversation also touches on leadership strategies during uncertain times and the potential for businesses to pivot towards defense and homeland security opportunities. Additionally, they explore the significance of state and local government contracts and the evolving landscape of procurement practices. In this conversation, Amber Kodish and Jeff Shapiro discuss the importance of networking in the business world, particularly in the context of government contracting. They explore strategies for building a network, the significance of follow-up, and how commercial companies can successfully enter the government market. The discussion also covers various funding sources available to businesses, including SBIRs and RFIs, and emphasizes the need for relationship-building in achieving success in government contracts.👤 Guest:Amber Kodish, Federal Business Development & Strategy Consultant🎧 Host:Jeff Shapiro, Optimize Podcast📄 Episode Description:In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro speaks with GovCon strategist Amber Kodish about how to shift mindset, strategy, and operations when federal business doesn’t go according to plan. From navigating budget uncertainty to creatively entering new markets through pilots and partnerships, Amber shares an insider’s take on how businesses can lead with agility and grow through the chaos.They discuss how to identify resilient agencies, why being likable matters more than ever in business development, and how to rethink your capture strategy beyond waiting on SAM.gov. Whether you’re a prime, a sub, or a commercial company trying to break into federal, Amber offers sharp, honest, and energizing advice to help you take action.📌 Topics & Timestamps:Amber’s path into GovCon and passion for mission-focused work (02:30)Leading teams and setting a strategic vision after disruption (10:15)Identifying growth-friendly agencies and geographic opportunities (13:30)Relationship-driven business development and why it works (26:00)Breaking in through pilots, micro-purchases, and alternative entry points (50:30)GSA schedules, SBIRs, and how to stop relying on SAM.gov alone (57:40)Lessons in leadership, optimism, and adaptability in GovCon (01:05:00)🔗 Useful Links:Listen to more episodes: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with Jeff Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with Amber Kodish: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-kodish-mba-cpm/  

Guest:Ross Wilkers, Senior Staff Reporter, Washington Technology🎧 Host:Jeff Shapiro, Optimize Podcast📄 Episode Description:In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro is joined by Ross Wilkers, veteran journalist and Senior Staff Reporter at Washington Technology. They dive deep into the current transformation sweeping federal procurement—fueled by policy mandates, staffing changes, and a growing push toward commercial solutions and outcome-based contracting.Ross shares what he’s hearing on the ground from contractors, policymakers, and agency insiders—from the shrinking federal workforce and skepticism around consulting, to the reality of scaling commercial tech for government needs. Whether you’re a longtime GovCon player or just trying to stay ahead of the headlines, this episode delivers fresh perspective on what’s really driving change—and how to prepare for it.📌 Key Topics & Timestamps:Ross’s path from local journalism to GovCon (01:00)How agency workforce reductions are disrupting relationships (08:00)The commercial preference push and Palantir’s lawsuit (14:00)Consulting’s image crisis in GovCon (18:30)Scaling challenges with commercial tech in government (20:00)Outcome-based contracting: rewards vs. risks (59:00)Advice for influencing policy change and avoiding “complaint-only” feedback (50:00)Where to get real GovCon insights (52:00)🔗 Useful Links:Listen to more episodes: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with Jeff Shapiro on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with Ross Wilkers on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ross-wilkers-9256a371/ 

Jeff Shapiro and Marsha Lindquist delve into the complexities of government contracting, focusing on strategic pricing and the implications of terminations and stop work orders. Marsha shares her extensive experience in the field, offering insights into best practices for contractors facing potential contract terminations. The conversation covers essential topics such as understanding termination costs, navigating different contract types, and the importance of strategic planning when preparing settlement proposals. In this conversation, Marsha Lindquist and Jeff Shapiro discuss the complexities of managing records and costs associated with contract terminations, particularly in the context of audits and subcontractor claims. They emphasize the importance of maintaining thorough documentation, understanding allowable costs, and preparing for potential audits. The discussion also covers the nuances of subcontractor claims, price analysis, and the business decisions that contractors must navigate when settling termination proposals. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for diligence and compliance in government contracting.  

In this informative episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro sits down with cybersecurity and government contracting expert Josh Duvall, shareholder at Maynard Nexon. They delve into critical issues impacting federal contractors, providing valuable insights on navigating Organizational Conflicts of Interest (OCIs), effectively managing bid protests, and the importance of cybersecurity compliance, particularly with the implementation of the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC).Topics Discussed:Understanding and navigating Organizational Conflicts of Interest (02:50)Types of OCIs: biased ground rules, unequal access to information, impaired objectivity (11:07)Strategies and insights for successful bid protests, including managing key personnel issues (24:36)Importance and strategic use of government Q&A processes (21:17)eLatest developments and impacts of the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) (58:35)The significance of proactive cybersecurity compliance and third-party certifications (01:03:26)Useful Links:Optimize Podcast: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with host Jeff Shapiro on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with guest Josh Duvall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuabduvall/ 

In the latest Optimize Podcast episode, host Jeff Shapiro is joined by Blaine Klusky, founder and principal of Harkin Advisors. Together, they delve deep into the significant impacts and complexities introduced by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and how these policies are affecting federal contractors.Topics Discussed:Understanding DOGE and its implications for federal contractors (06:15)Navigating terminations for convenience (T for Cs) and rescinded terminations (06:44)Managing regulatory audits and potential overreach by DCAA (07:11)The importance of empathy and maintaining relationships during audits (35:59)Strategies for proactive proposal writing and avoiding "taboo words" flagged by DOGE (16:32)Effectively handling unintended consequences and pivoting your business model (11:18)Practical advice for interacting with regulators and auditors (41:24)Managing business operations and planning strategically for DOGE's impact (29:57)Advice on professional social media conduct and internal communication (59:41)Useful Links:Optimize Podcast: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/Connect with host Jeff Shapiro on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffshapirocpa/Connect with guest Blaine Klusky on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blaineklusky/

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Jeff Shapiro interviews Shauna Weatherly, a federal acquisition expert with over 35 years of experience. They discuss the current landscape of government contracting, particularly for small businesses, and the importance of adapting to changes in federal acquisition policies. Shauna shares insights on effective strategies for small businesses, including the significance of teaming, engaging with contracting officers, and leveraging resources like SAM.gov. The conversation also touches on the role of NAICS codes, GSA contracts, and alternative opportunities in government contracting. In this conversation, Shauna Weatherly and Jeff Shapiro discuss the evolving landscape of government procurement, focusing on commercial strategies, the future of the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), and the challenges faced in contracting and talent retention. They emphasize the importance of adapting to changes in the market, understanding proposal evaluation processes, and the need for businesses to diversify their offerings. The discussion highlights the significance of presenting strong proposals and the necessity for companies to be proactive in their strategies to succeed in a competitive environment.

In 2024 Unfolded - Essential Insights from the Optimize Podcast, we’ve distilled the top moments from seven impactful episodes into one essential highlights reel. Join Marcia Watson and explore how AI is reshaping federal contracting, the power of building strong relationships, strategies for mastering competitive intelligence, and insights on adapting to rapid changes in technology and workplace culture. Whether you’re a seasoned professional or new to the field, this episode offers actionable takeaways, expert perspectives, and a fresh look at what’s ahead for government contracting in 2024.

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, Marcia Watson and Steve Skeldon dive into the power of competitive intelligence and its impact on capture and proposal success. They unpack why many companies fall short in their competitive analysis, how to tackle these challenges, and the tools that can transform market research into actionable insights. From leveraging past performance to crafting winning pricing strategies, they share practical tips for navigating the ever-changing market landscape. This episode highlights the importance of integrating capture and proposal processes, maintaining a human touch in business development, and staying engaged throughout the entire lifecycle to outpace the competition.Connect with SteveConnect with Marcia

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, Noelle Russell, Chief AI Officer & Microsoft MVP in AI, and Fergal McGovern, CEO of VisibleThread, dive into the evolving role of artificial intelligence (AI) in federal contracting. They explore how AI can improve efficiency, its limitations, and why human judgment, creativity, and ethical accountability remain irreplaceable. From managing data quality to addressing security concerns, this episode provides actionable insights for organizations navigating the AI landscape.Key Topics Covered:How AI enhances efficiency but cannot replace human critical thinking.The importance of data quality and ethical accountability in AI implementation.Collaboration between humans and machines to achieve optimal outcomes in federal contracting.Practical steps for integrating AI while mitigating risks and ensuring compliance.Guest SpeakersNoelle Russell: Chief AI Officer & Microsoft MVP in AI. Connect with Noelle on LinkedIn.Fergal McGovern: CEO of VisibleThread. Connect with Fergal on LinkedIn.Where to Watch and ListenWatch the Podcast:VisibleThread Podcast PageYouTube ChannelListen to the Podcast:SpotifyApple Podcasts

Episode TakeawaysPlan for Compliance: Don’t rely on boilerplate flow-down documents; ensure all mandatory clauses are clearly identified and relevant to the specific contract type.Leverage Templates: Templates for compliance matrices and pricing data are essential to maintain consistency and reduce errors.Proactive Risk Management: Using tools like VisibleThread helps streamline audits, monitor flow-down compliance, and assess risks across documents, saving time and reducing costly mistakes.Value Relationships: Effective teaming and strong communication with subcontractors can prevent missteps and support contract execution.Stay Agile: Regularly update compliance policies to keep up with evolving regulations and client requirements to remain audit-ready and aligned with FAR/DFAR standards.

In this insightful episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Marcia Watson dives into the upcoming U.S. election and its implications for government contracting with experts Gene Moran and Larry Allen. They explore crucial changes contractors might see, including shifting federal priorities, potential new regulations, and the impact of political dynamics on bidding and contract types.Key topics include the significance of relationship-building and communication with government representatives, evolving roles for small businesses in federal contracting, and the rise of AI and Buy America policies. With a focus on staying informed, the speakers highlight capture strategies, low-risk partnerships, and resources like spending trends and industry associations to keep contractors prepared. They emphasize adaptability and strategic planning around cash flow and continuity, especially given the uncertainty that often accompanies changeover years.Top Takeaways:Contractors should prioritize relationships, staying informed on political shifts, and adapting to federal changes.New regulations may impact contracting areas like AI, Buy America, pay equity, and transparency.Key insights for small businesses and infrastructure projects emphasize proactive engagement and low-risk, reliability-focused capture strategies.Listen to the full episode on Optimize Podcast for a deep dive into election-driven trends affecting the contracting landscape.

In Episode 3: The Re-invention Mindset, Marcia Watson sits down with Lori McDowell to explore how mindset plays a critical role in both personal and professional success—especially in the fast-paced world of government contracting.Lori shares her own story of reinvention, offering practical tips on overcoming burnout, maintaining a healthy work-life balance, and pushing past limiting beliefs. They dive deep into how a growth mindset, embracing risk, and asking for help are essential to thriving in a high-pressure environment like GovCon.This episode challenges listeners to shift their thinking from fearing failure to viewing challenges as opportunities for growth. Lori and Marcia also discuss how cultivating strong human relationships, both at work and personally, can drive success. Whether it’s finding balance, developing resilience, or simply asking for help, this conversation is packed with actionable insights for GovCon professionals looking to stay ahead and thrive.Tune in to discover the power of self-love, gratitude, and positivity in navigating your career and achieving your goals in government contracting!

This episode explores the rapid evolution of work culture driven by the pandemic and technological advances. It discusses the shift to hybrid and remote work models, the impact of AI and cloud-based tools, and the challenges and opportunities of the post-COVID era. The guests share their experiences of significant changes in the industry, such as the move to the cloud and the shift from hard copy submissions to digital collaboration. They also discuss the effects of the pandemic on remote work, virtual communication, and the need for adaptability and productivity in the changing work landscape. The conversation explores the changes in workplace culture and technology, particularly in relation to different generations. The speakers discuss the shift in leadership and communication styles as younger generations enter the workforce. They also touch on the importance of adaptability and staying relevant in the face of rapid technological advancements. The conversation highlights the need for a balance between technology and human connection, as well as the importance of developing a future-ready workforce. The speakers emphasize the opportunities for innovation and growth that come with embracing new technologies.

In this episode of the Optimize Podcast, host Marcia Watson is joined by Todd Packer and Scot Loveland to discuss the evolving relationship between the proposal and acquisition industries and the importance of finding common ground. They delve into the complexities of federal procurement, highlighting the role of small businesses, the importance of clear communication with contracting officers, and how government agencies aim to diversify their supply chains. The discussion emphasizes the need for businesses to be “procurement ready” and the importance of building relationships within the government contracting world.

In Episode 8 of the Optimize Podcast, we dive deep into the pervasive challenge of Imposter Syndrome and its notable impact on professionals in the GovCon industry. Host Tan Wilson, alongside seasoned expert Anatalia Macik, Director of Proposal Operations at Excella, sheds light on the ways this phenomenon hampers career progression and self-confidence within the competitive realm of government contracting. Anatalia brings her dual expertise in proposal development and business development to discuss practical strategies for navigating and overcoming the self-doubt and barriers that particularly affect women in GovCon. This episode is an invaluable resource for anyone looking to understand and conquer Imposter Syndrome, armed with real-world advice and strategies for personal and professional growth.

Join host Tan Wilson for a special edition of ‘The Optimize Podcast 2023 Unfolded’ as we look back at last year's riveting themes and conversations. This episode is a journey through the most impactful discussions from previous episodes, highlighting key insights in business success. Dive into the essence of Effective Communication, understand the revolutionary intersection of Technology, AI, and Cybersecurity, explore Branding and Personal Development, and unravel the intricacies of Leadership and Team Dynamics. Plus, don’t miss our fun segment where guests reveal their desired superpowers in business. Get ready for an enlightening recap that interconnects growth, innovation, and adaptability in the business world of 2023.

Embark on a refreshing journey into the heart of branding and marketing with our illustrious guest, Kris Brinker, a maven who seamlessly melds the art of Tai Chi with the science of branding. In a candid and insightful session, Kris and our host delve into the essence of marketing, debunking myths and laying bare the core strategies that drive successful branding. From aligning stakeholders to understanding the erratic nature of public perception, this episode is a treasure trove of insights for entrepreneurs, brand strategists, and anyone keen on crafting authentic narratives in a market flooded with discord. Tune in as we unravel the nuances of branding and explore how to navigate the delicate balance between authenticity and strategic branding in a world where every voice is vying for attention.

Join Tan in this engaging episode as she chats with Fergal McGovern, CEO of VisibleThread, about the nuances of AI and technology adoption. They delve into the challenges of integrating new technologies, spotlight common pitfalls, and share actionable strategies for success. The discussion also highlights the vital role of 'Internal Champions' in driving a culture of continuous improvement and active engagement.

In this episode we are at VisibleThreads VT Summit 2023. Tan and her guests, Rebecca Link and Marcia Watson, both Proposal Management professionals, dive into a riveting discussion on mastering workplace efficiency with tech, navigating generational diversity, and the art of empathetic, strength-focused leadership in today’s dynamic business world.https://www.visiblethread.com/blog/the-optimize-podcast/Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/show/2sVdLuhhUZem9mZrHlQw5c?si=b45102eb9f2f44fbApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-optimize-podcast/id1713359198 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf07mAQMdH5IgEgJhyhpMoQwww.visiblethread.com

Today's 'TechCyclone' episode explores the thrilling crossroads of innovation and risk. Join Tan as she talks with Thomas Perry, President & CEO of VG Systems and Major Courtney P. Gallagher, Director of Operations for the 341st Cyberspace Operations Squadron. They explore the balance between the world of tech innovation and the tangible challenges that come with it. As businesses teeter on the brink of a tech revolution, some might be overshadowed by this looming tech storm. As the future's winds gather strength, how do we navigate the landscape?

This episode dives into the challenges of balancing entrepreneurship's demands while embracing parenthood and family. Our host, Tan Wilson, talks to Martha Ellison, President & CEO of M923.You can watch the full episode hereWelcome to the Optimize Podcast brought to you by VisibleThread. We bring you the best and latest insights for everything from government contracting on topics such as BD, capture, proposal management, and business writing. Every series of Optimize is hosted by an expert in their field who brings their expertise and real-life experience to each episode. This podcast series is hosted by Tan Wilson, President of Entellect. In each episode, Tan will be joined by thought leaders and industry experts as they dive into proposal development, government contracting, entrepreneurship, and bid strategies.Please subscribe, rate, and review us wherever you listen. 

This episode dives into the art and science of successful collaboration in the proposal, business development, and capture processes. Our host, Tan Wilson, talks to Stephanie Zink from Taurus Group and Jennifer Adeli from Edgesource.You can watch the full episode hereWelcome to the Optimize Podcast brought to you by VisibleThread. We bring you the best and latest insights for everything from government contracting on topics such as BD, capture, proposal management, and business writing. Every series of Optimize is hosted by an expert in their field who brings their expertise and real-life experience to each episode. This podcast series is hosted by Tan Wilson, President of Entellect. In each episode, Tan will be joined by thought leaders and industry experts as they dive into proposal development, government contracting, entrepreneurship, and bid strategies.Please subscribe, rate, and review us wherever you listen. 

Every series of Optimize is hosted by an expert in their field who brings their expertise and real-life experience to each episode. This podcast series is hosted by Tan Wilson, President of Entellect. Tan is a renowned GovCon influencer who has spearheaded business processes and bid strategies that have clinched contracts worth over $150 billion to her clients. She is a bid strategist, executive coach, mentor, Marvel and DC enthusiast, and self-proclaimed bourbon lover. In each episode, Tan will be joined by thought leaders and industry experts as they dive into proposal development, government contracting, entrepreneurship, and bid strategies.The Optimize Podcast will be available on Spotify Apple podcasts and anywhere you listen to podcasts.