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In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari Morin and Lisa Callahan talk honestly about how relationships evolve over time — beyond the early butterflies and beyond the breaking points — into something quieter, deeper, and often more meaningful than we expected.They explore:Why relationships can feel different even when nothing is "wrong"The slow emotional drift that can happen in long-term partnershipsHow to stay connected when life, stress, and identity changes shift the dynamicThe grief of losing earlier versions of your relationshipWhat it actually means to keep choosing your partner over timeYou'll hear a grounded conversation about the small, daily moments that build real connection, and why love that shows up in patterns, consistency, and ordinary life may be the most lasting kind there is.If your relationship feels like it's changing, if you're feeling some distance, or if you've wondered — Is this still good? Is this what love is supposed to become? — this episode offers reassurance, perspective, and a more honest definition of long-term love.The cohosts also talk about why no partner can be everything, and how strong friendships — especially with other women who truly understand you — can strengthen your relationship rather than compete with it.If you're craving that kind of connection, join Lisa and Kari at the Best Chapter Yet Fall Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. It's two and a half days to exhale, reconnect, and be reminded that your best chapter is still ahead. Spots are filling — learn more and reserve yours here: bestchapteryetfall2026Find Kari and Lisa:🎙 The Things We Know Podcast 📘 Facebook 📸 Instagram

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa turn the mic on themselves. As coaches who spend most of their time asking the questions, they finally sit in the guest seat and answer the ones that get to something real fast. What do people get wrong about coaching? Who are they actually built to work with? What does someone really come to them for, even when they can't name it yet? And how do you know when you're ready?This one is for any woman who has wondered whether coaching is for her — or who has been circling something she wants but hasn't quite let herself go after it yet.In this episode, Kari and Lisa talk about:What people most commonly misunderstand about what coaches actually doWho their ideal clients are and what those women are usually navigating when they reach outWhat someone is really coming to coaching for — even when they don't say it that way at firstWhat changes for a woman when she does this workThe beliefs Kari and Lisa each had to let go of to coach the way they do nowWhat makes this work harder than most people expectHow to know if you're actually readyThe songs that embody their coaching philosophy (yes, really)Work with Kari or Lisa: Both offer an initial conversation that gets to the heart of what you actually want and what it takes to get there. By the end — whether you decide to work together or not — you'll know your next steps. 📅 Book here 📅 Book Here 💛 Mention the podcast and receive 10% off your first coaching package with either of them.

We sat down with Athena Dean Holtz for a conversation about something most women don’t talk about enough — the decisions we make when we’re hurting.The ones that make sense at the time. The ones that cost us later. And the moment when you finally see the pattern and realize you can’t keep doing it the same way.We talk about wounded decision making, how women self-medicate with work, and what it actually takes to slow down long enough to recognize what’s driving your choices. We also get into forgiveness, the difference between healing old wounds and living through current ones, and what real transformation looks like from the inside.If you’ve ever looked back and thought, why did I choose that, this conversation will land.And also this: you don’t have to untangle it all on your own.There is something powerful about stepping out of your day-to-day life and into a room with women who are doing this work too. Women who are honest, self-aware, and ready for something different:Join Lisa and Kari at the next Best Chapter Yet Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. Spots are filling — learn more:https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026BRAND NEW! Join our Patreon for behind the scenes, bonus episodes and special discounts https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLinkWhere to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod 

We didn’t plan this episode. We sat down and hit record because the news cycle last week was too much to ignore.We talk about what women are actually absorbing right now. The stories that don’t just stay in headlines, but land in our bodies. From political misconduct allegations to the exposure of online communities built around violating women, to the ongoing lack of accountability for powerful men.And just as much, we talk about the response. The defensiveness. The “not all men” conversation and why it misses the point. The silence from men who consider themselves good, and the exhaustion women feel carrying that gap.This is an unfiltered conversation about anger, grief, emotional labor, and what allyship actually requires right now.And also this: you are not meant to hold all of this alone.If you’ve been feeling the weight of it, being in a room with other women who get it isn’t just nice, it’s necessary. Join Lisa and Kari at the next Best Chapter Yet Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. Spots are filling — learn more:https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026BRAND NEW! Join our Patreon for behind the scenes, bonus episodes and special discounts https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLinkWhere to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari  explore what happens when life doesn’t match the vision board. Drawing from their coaching work and lived experience, they unpack why tools like intention setting and mindset can be powerful when they work, and why they can become painful or even shaming when reality intervenes. Together they examine the limits of manifestation culture, the role of grief and adaptation in seasons shaped by caregiving, illness, or disruption, and what research actually tells us about motivation and follow-through. The conversation moves toward a more honest and humane way of orienting our lives, one that holds intention and reality at the same time, honors desire without demanding outcomes, and makes room for compassion, flexibility, and growth in the lives we are actually living.Want to create your next Best Chapter in real life?  Join us in Portland, OR Sept 18-20. 2026 for our YOUnique and Amazing retreat.https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026BRAND NEW! Join our Patreon for behind the scenes, bonus episodes and special discounts https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink

In this powerful episode, Lisa and Kari sit down with Jessica Patay, founder and executive director of We Are Brave Together, a global nonprofit created to support caregiving mothers raising children with disabilities and medical complexities. Jessica shares the personal story that sparked her mission, the invisible isolation so many caregivers endure, and why community is not a luxury, it is survival. Together they talk about the courage it takes to ask for help, how to build deep friendships in midlife when life is already heavy, and what it looks like to move from Why me to What now with self-compassion and strength. If you are a caregiver, love someone who is, or simply crave more meaningful community in this season of life, this conversation will make you feel seen and less alone.We Are Brave Together: https://www.wearebravetogether.org/Brave Together Podcast:on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyWhere to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa slow down to talk about why storytelling has always mattered so much, and why it still does right now. They reflect on story as a way we make sense of what we’ve lived, how women across cultures have carried memory and meaning when formal histories fell short, and why telling our own stories is never just personal. The conversation explores how stories can heal, connect, and help us become more fully ourselves, while also naming the quiet power of paying attention to who is telling the story and why. At its heart, this episode is about storytelling as a way of staying awake, preserving truth, and refusing to let our lives, our histories, or our humanity be flattened or rewritten by someone else.If you are ready to start telling your story join us in Portland, OR for our next Best Chapter Yet retreat.  Sep 18-20 https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026 Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

What if the best version of you is still ahead?In this episode, Lisa and Kari get real about one of the most quietly radical things a woman in midlife can do — let herself be new. Not fixed. Not improved. New.If you've ever Googled "how to reinvent yourself in your 40s" at midnight, or wondered whether it's too late to try something that scares you, this conversation is for you.Lisa and Kari talk through what it actually feels like to give yourself permission to change, why being a beginner again is harder than it sounds, and how to stop waiting for the right moment to start living differently.In this episode:Why midlife is the perfect time to try something completely newHow to quiet the voice that says it's too lateWhat it looks like to let yourself become a different version of youIf this episode hit home, follow or subscribe to The Things We Know so you never miss a conversation.✨ Ready to stop thinking about it and actually do it?The best way to start your journey to being new is at our next Best Chapter Yet retreat — YOUnique and Amazing in Portland, OR, September 18–20. This is your dedicated time and space to step away, reconnect with yourself, and step into who you're becoming. Come as you are. Leave as someone new.👉 Grab your spot before they're gone — https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026

In this conversation, Kari and Lisa sit down with Shawna Rosenzweig, CEO of Camp Fire, to explore what young people are facing today and what adults can do to support them with clarity and compassion. Shawna shares her path into youth development and community engagement, what it looks like to lead a one hundred and fifteen year old national organization, and how she balances identity, parenting, and purpose in a rapidly changing world. Together they talk about belonging, safety, outdoor experiences, and the small but powerful ways parents, teachers, caregivers, and communities can help young people thrive. It is honest, grounding, and full of the kind of insight that makes you exhale and rethink what’s possible for the next generation.Please consider contributing to Campfire’s Friendship Fund: The Camp Fire National Friendship Fund is a financial and community resource assistance program that fills in funding gaps throughout the national Camp Fire network, extends existing scholarship programs, and supports projects that remove barriers to accessibility.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari explore what it really means to make peace with your pace in a world that constantly equates speed with worth. They unpack the quiet pressure so many women feel to keep up, especially in midlife, when responsibilities multiply and life demands more care, not more urgency. The conversation moves through burnout, ambition, desire, and the seasons of life that force us to slow down whether we want to or not, naming the tension between loving where you are and still longing for more. This is an honest, compassionate look at pacing your life in a way that’s sustainable, aligned, and deeply human, without giving up on growth or meaning.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

What if getting dressed could feel like a way to reconnect with who you’re becoming? In this episode, Kari and Lisa talk with Julia Dietmar, CEO and co-founder of OpenWardrobe, about how style naturally evolves through the seasons of our lives and how clothing can help us express ourselves more authentically during times of change. Julia shares how to let go of old fashion “rules,” how to make the most of the clothes you already own, and how she found the courage to launch a company in her fifties. This is an encouraging, practical, and creative conversation for anyone ready to feel more aligned, more confident, and more at ease in their style.Learn more about Julie and connect, and get on Open Wardrobe to be inspired:[email protected]://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-k-dietmar-083810/Use code TTWK for 20% off a Style BlueprintWhere to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa revisit a topic that sits at the heart of every meaningful relationship: repair. Rather than striving for perfection or trying to get it right all the time, they explore why the willingness to notice harm, take responsibility, and come back into connection matters more. Drawing from relationship research, parenting and caregiving realities, and their own lived experience, they talk about why rupture is inevitable, why repair is often uncomfortable, and how repair builds trust over time — with others and with ourselves. This conversation invites listeners to release shame, soften self-judgment, and stay oriented toward connection, integrity, and growth, even when things don’t go as planned.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode, Lisa and Kari sit down with international speaker and visibility expert Kimberly Crowe to talk about finding your voice and letting it work for you, especially in the middle chapters of life. They explore why so many women stay hidden, how the stories we tell ourselves shape our confidence, and what begins to shift when we choose visibility over perfection. Kimberly shares her journey from early speaking experiences to thousands of stages around the world, along with her philosophy that business and self-expression can be both meaningful and fun. It’s a warm, encouraging conversation about midlife reinvention, storytelling as a path to connection, and the small, brave steps that help a voice grow stronger.To learn more about Kimberly and explore opportunities to grow your voice and visibility, visit https://speakersplayhouse.com/.To register for Voices of Women Summit https://thingsweknow--checkingout.thrivecart.com/vow-summit-speaker-registration-2026/To register for Podapaloozahttps://thingsweknow--checkingout.thrivecart.com/podapalooza/Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod 

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa sit down with Dr. Nelva Lee to reflect on how embracing life’s turns helped define the path she ultimately built. Nelva reflects on a career spanning healthcare administration, education, entrepreneurship, and community advocacy, and how building systems to support multilingual, immigrant, and underserved communities emerged through lived experience rather than linear planning. She shares how faith has guided her leadership and service, why midlife has become a season of intentional challenge and growth, and how continuing to push herself physically, most recently by running an ultramarathon, feels essential to staying alive and awake to her own life.To learn more about Dr. Nelva Lee and her work, or to get in touch with her directly, visit DrNelvaLee.com.If this conversation resonated and you’re craving space to reflect on your own pivots, growth, and next chapter alongside other thoughtful women, there is still a short window to join Kari and Lisa at Unstoppable: A Best Chapter Yet Retreat, happening February 27 through March 1 in Palm Springs, California. It’s an invitation to step into clarity, connection, and forward movement in a supportive, judgment-free circle, and it’s coming up quickly.

In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari use the psychological thriller All Her Fault as a doorway into a much larger cultural conversation about how quickly women are judged, blamed, and morally scrutinized. Through the intertwined storylines of working mothers, caregivers, and a woman whose life has been shaped by inherited guilt, they explore how blame lands differently on women than on men, how motherhood is policed through impossible standards, and how judgment often disguises itself as concern. Drawing on research, cultural patterns, and familiar moments from pop culture, this conversation invites listeners to slow down their own reflexes, notice who gets the benefit of the doubt, and consider how awareness itself can begin to loosen these patterns.If this conversation stirred a desire for something different than judgment or fixing, and you’re craving an empowering, safe, and genuinely loving circle of women where you can show up without being evaluated, there is still time to join Kari and Lisa at Unstoppable: A Best Chapter Yet Retreat, happening February 27 through March 1 in Palm Springs, California. It’s an invitation to step out of scrutiny and into connection, reflection, and forward movement with women who know how to hold space without verdicts.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod 

Lisa and Kari came back to talk a little bit more about what is going on in our country right now.We are all exhausted and it is hard but we have to keep going because speaking out is working. Please share this episode with everyone you know

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa name the moment we’re living in without softening it or pretending it’s business as usual. They talk honestly about the emotional and nervous system toll of staying awake to what’s happening in the world, why disengagement is no longer a neutral choice, and how caring deeply right now comes with a real cost. Drawing from their work as coaches, mothers, and women paying close attention, they explore how to stay engaged without burning out, why regulation is not avoidance but capacity-building, and how community helps keep despair from taking over. This is a conversation about moral distress, presence, and what it means to remain human, grounded, and connected in a time that feels anything but normal.And if this conversation stirred a desire not just to stay informed, but to stay human and resourced in the midst of it all, there is still a small window to join Kari and Lisa at the Unstoppable: A Best Chapter Yet Retreat in Palm Springs, February 27–March 1, 2026. The retreat is a place to slow down, tend to your nervous system, reflect on your own story, and reconnect with what gives you steadiness and courage for the long road ahead. More details and registration are linked above if this feels like the kind of support you’ve been needing.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod 

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa talk with Kristy about what it looks like to take a leap in midlife and step into a version of yourself you didn’t see coming. Kristy shares how she went from growing up in a very nonpolitical household to becoming an activist and community organizer, working alongside a committed network of women through Build Tomorrow Chicago and Indivisible Edgewater. Together, they explore how concern turns into action, how community creates purpose during times of upheaval, and why getting involved doesn’t require a certain personality or background. This conversation is for anyone navigating big, unexpected life changes and wondering how to channel their energy into something meaningful and alive.To learn more about Kristy’s work or get involved, find her communities on Instagram at @buildtomorrow.chi and @indivisible.edgewaterAnd if this conversation stirred that familiar feeling of wanting your next chapter to feel more vibrant, purposeful, and connected, there is still a small window to join Kari and Lisa at Unstoppable: A Best Chapter Yet Retreat in Palm Springs, February 27-March 1, 2026. It’s a powerful and loving space for women who want to step into community with clarity and courage, and it’s coming up quickly, so click the link above to learn more and register to join! Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod  

Kari and Lisa talk with researcher and storyteller Rachel Joy Swardson about the real landscape of women’s friendships—the fractures we don’t speak about, the quiet eroders that dissolve connection, and why midlife can feel both full and lonely at the same time. Together they explore how values shifts, life transitions, and unspoken expectations shape the way women find, make, and keep friends, and they consider what it looks like to repair or release a friendship with honesty and compassion. This conversation invites listeners to reflect on their own patterns, the friendships that shaped them, and the possibility of forming meaningful new connections in midlife.And because connection is at the heart of their Best Chapter Yet Retreats, Because of course any good chapter includes the best kinds of friends as our stories unfold!  Kari and Lisa share what they see every time: women forming deep, organic friendships almost instantly, thanks to the intentional work that begins long before anyone arrives. The bonds that spark there are real and lasting, and it’s one of their favorite parts of this work. For those craving that kind of community, there is still time to join them at Unstoppable: A Heroine’s Journey in Palm Springs, February 27-March 1, 2026Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod 

Lisa Callahan and Kari Morin are back!   Here to open Season Four of The Things We Know by retiring the familiar pressure to be better and asking a different, more honest question. What if this year is about being braver instead. In a world that feels heavy and uncertain, they explore what courage actually looks like in midlife and in these times. Not perfection or optimization, but emotional honesty, softened strength, clear boundaries, and the willingness to be seen as we are. Through personal stories about caregiving, grief, identity shifts, friendships, parenting adult children, and the courage required to stay present rather than numb, they reflect on the small, everyday acts of bravery that help women move forward without abandoning themselves.Because bravery is easier when it is practiced in community, Lisa and Kari also share what they witnessed at their Brave and Boundless retreat last Fall, and why they are so excited about their next gathering, Unstoppable: A Heroine’s Journey, taking place February 27 through March 1, 2026 in Palm Springs. This retreat offers women a chance to explore their stories, reclaim their courage, and step into the year ahead with support, connection, and intention. There’s still time to register, and spaces are filling, but the invitation is simple: come be held in community, explore your next chapter with support, and step into the kind of courage this new season is all about.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod 

Lisa and Kari offer a lively preview of what’s ahead in Season Four, sharing the themes, conversations, and guests they’re most excited to bring to the podcast in the coming months. With several powerful interviews already recorded, they highlight the topics that will shape the new season—courage, friendship, activism, healing, identity, pace, desire, storytelling, and more—along with the kinds of honest, funny, grounded conversations listeners have come to expect. This quick preview sets the stage for a season filled with depth, connection, and the kinds of episodes that stay with you long after they end.And as you look ahead to your own new season, Kari and Lisa also invite you to consider joining them at Unstoppable: A Heroine’s Journey, their upcoming retreat in Palm Springs. It’s a space designed for connection, clarity, and courage—the same themes that run through the year’s upcoming conversations—and a powerful way to begin your next chapter with support and community. Registration link is here.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa wrap up a tough year by exploring a surprisingly uplifting idea called the winning streak. Inspired by creator Charlie Rocket and expanded through the somatic work of Melanie Mishler, they talk about how naming even the smallest things that are going right can shift how we experience progress and resilience. This conversation is not about forced optimism but about noticing what is steady and good, even in uncertain seasons. It is a reminder that momentum often begins with one simple truth: things are still working, even when life feels hard.You know what might be the perfect way to experience a winning streak? Come meet us in Palm Springs, California, February 27 to March 1, 2026, for our next Best Chapter Yet weekend retreat. Picture sunshine, laughter, deep conversation, and that unmistakable feeling of forward motion. It is time to remember how good it feels to root for your own life again. All the details and the registration link are here.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

Kari and Lisa mark their one hundred fiftieth episode with a reflective, honest conversation about the beliefs they once held tightly, the ones life softened, and the truths that feel steadier now. Looking back at the evolution of the podcast, the unexpected shape of this past year, and the lessons earned at different ages, they explore how perspective shifts over time and what wisdom emerges from both joy and difficulty. This milestone discussion invites listeners to consider their own turning points, the assumptions that no longer fit, and the deeper knowing that comes with experience, humility, and growth.We invite you to imagine three days of connection, creativity, and real conversation.  Join us in Palm Springs for Unstoppable: A Heroine’s Journey, Feb 27–Mar 1, 2026. Best Chapter Yet retreat: “Unstoppable, A Heroine’s Journey”  in Palm Springs, February 27–March 1, 2026. Details and registration here!Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode, Kari and Lisa dive into a conversation many of us feel but rarely name: how easy it is to slip into information bubbles without even realizing it. They explore what happens when our news feeds narrow, our assumptions harden, and the algorithms learn us a little too well — and they offer a refreshing, compassionate look at how to stay informed without losing ourselves in outrage or overwhelm. With practical tools, surprising research, personal stories, and a few gentle invitations to stretch beyond our comfort zones, this episode is all about cultivating curiosity, discernment, and a more grounded relationship with the media we consume. It’s not about politics — it’s about awareness, agency, and choosing the wider lens. Tune in for an honest, energizing reminder that we can all break out of the echo chamber and reconnect with nuance, complexity, and each other.If this episode opened things up for you, imagine three days of clarity, courage, and real conversation.  Join us in Palm Springs for Unstoppable: A Heroine’s Journey, Feb 27–Mar 1, 2026. Best ChapterYet retreat: “Unstoppable, A Heroine’s Journey”  in Palm Springs, February 27–March 1, 2026. Details and registration here!Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari sit down with filmmaker, actress, and creative entrepreneur Trinette Faint, fresh off her Best Actress win at the Berlin Indie Film Festival for her witty and deeply human short film Party Pants. Together they explore what it means to reinvent yourself in midlife, build community that’s real instead of performative, and lead with creativity and connection. Trinette shares how her company Floor 51 Productions and her new venture Chez Faint are giving women spaces to collaborate, rest, and create with purpose—from Boston to Brooklyn to Rome. Watch Party Pants on YouTube here and learn more about Trinette’s work and upcoming retreats at chezfaint.com.If you’re ready for your own spark of creativity, connection and clarity, join us for our next Best Chapter Yet retreat: “Unstoppable, A Heroine’s Journey”  in Palm Springs, February 27–March 1, 2026. Details and registration here!Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

What if the answers you keep searching for are already in you? In this episode, Kari and Lisa explore the idea of cumulative knowledge — the way life quietly teaches us through repetition, resilience, relationships, and the stories we carry. It’s a conversation about the wisdom we forget we have, the old scripts we’re still running, and the surprising ways our lived experience shapes what we do next. If you’ve ever underestimated what you already know, this one will feel like a deep exhale and an invitation to trust yourself more.If this conversation reminds you of all you already carry, imagine giving yourself a few days to honor it. Join us in Palm Springs, California, February 27 to March 1, 2026, for our next Best Chapter Yet weekend retreat. Learn more and register here.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa talk honestly about movement and motivation in midlife. Not the glossy version, but the real one that includes shifting energy, caregiving, perimenopause, creaky joints, and the moments when even finding your sports bra feels like a workout. They unpack what it means to move through the world at this stage of life with strength, humor, and self-respect. The conversation explores how motivation looks different now, why reactivity gives way to resilience when we care for our bodies, and how movement can be simple, powerful, and deeply personal. It’s not about perfection or performance. It’s about staying connected to yourself and creating a life where movement feels like coming home.And if talking about movement has you picturing some sunshine and space to exhale, we’ve got the perfect idea. Join us in Palm Springs, California, February 27 to March 1, 2026 for our next Best Chapter Yet weekend retreat. Imagine warm desert air, wide open skies, and a few unforgettable days surrounded by dynamic women ready to move forward in their own lives with strength and joy. You can find all the details and the registration link here.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa step into a conversation that has been simmering for a long time. Faith and Freedom explores how personal belief, public power, and democracy are colliding in ways that shape everyday life. They share personal stories about faith, talk openly about the rise of Christian nationalism, and name why the separation of church and state matters now more than ever. This is not a sermon or a debate. It is a real conversation about conviction, compassion, and protecting the space for difference — because how we live this out together will shape the kind of world we pass on.If conversations like this leave you craving space to breathe, reflect, and connect with women who care deeply about the world too, our next retreat might be the perfect place to do it. Join us in Palm Springs, California, February 27 to March 1, 2026 for our next Best Chapter Yet weekend retreat. Picture sun-soaked days, big conversations, and a circle of dynamic women who are ready to live their next chapter with intention and heart. You can find all the details and the registration link here.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa lean into the question behind the title What to Feel (WTF) because lately both meanings apply. When the world keeps throwing curveballs, it is hard to know whether to rage, cry, laugh, or shut down entirely. Together they talk about the emotional whiplash of this past year, the grief beneath our anger, and how to keep hope alive when it feels like everything is unraveling. It is a conversation about empathy, resilience, and remembering that however you feel right now, it is okay.  You’re not alone!After a year of holding so much, maybe what comes next is space to breathe again. Our next Best Chapter Yet weekend retreat in Palm Springs will offer just that—a chance to rest, reconnect, and rediscover your own momentum. Join us February 27 to March 1, 2026, for a few unforgettable days of clarity, courage, and connection. All the details and registration are here.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari get real about power and the many ways it shows up in everyday life. They talk about the difference between power that controls, power that tries to help but sometimes misses the mark, and power that is shared and lifts everyone. Along the way they share what this looks like in their own lives, in coaching, and in community. They also name the quieter kinds of power that often go unseen, like supporting someone from behind or holding space so another voice can shine. This is an honest and practical conversation about rethinking power and noticing how our choices can open up more connection and possibility.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa talk about the small but powerful difference between reacting and responding. They share where this shows up in their own lives as moms, caregivers, partners, and friends, and how easy it is to either blow up or shut down when emotions take over. They offer simple practices that help create a little space before we act, like naming what we are feeling, breathing, or even finding humor in the moment. This conversation is about being gentler with ourselves, showing up more clearly for the people we love, and remembering that even one pause can change the whole tone of a relationship.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

Some stories are too powerful to stay untold. In this compelling conversation, Kari and Lisa are joined by memoir and business book ghostwriter Jenny Nesbit—a spiritual life coach and visionary who believes that when women tell the truth about their lives, they not only heal themselves but help others feel less alone. From surviving domestic abuse to helping others reclaim their voice, Jenny shares why storytelling is a radical act of sovereignty, connection, and transformation. Together, they explore the deep personal and professional power of writing your story, challenge the myth that some voices don’t matter, and invite listeners to consider where their own truth is ready to be spoken.Where to find Jenny and learn more: https://www.jennynesbit.com/JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreatat voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

What does it look like to face life’s hardest battles twice—and still come out laughing, leading, and lifting others? In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa sit down with Amy Spence: mom, marathon runner, master transformation coach, and two-time breast cancer survivor. Amy shares her journey with raw honesty and humor, from the moments that tested her to the strategies that helped her rise up stronger. She talks about creating her Rise Up System, launching the Bad Boobie Club podcast, and finding joy in a new normal. This is a conversation about resilience, healing, and connection—and a reminder that none of us have to walk through challenges alone.Where to listen, contact, and find out more about Amy:https://www.amyspencecoaching.com/https://www.amyspencecoaching.com/podcastWhere to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com

Maya Angelou’s challenge is simple but piercing: “Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.” In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa unpack what it really means to live by those words—in parenting, caregiving, politics, justice, and how we treat our planet. From unlearning old assumptions about children and loved ones, to confronting the gap between awareness and accountability in our culture, they explore how “knowing better” must push us past comfort into responsibility. Grace for the past matters, but so does courage for the present. This conversation is both a mirror and a call to action: where in your own life are you being asked to do better?Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

Dehumanization has become the cheap currency of politics, media, and even casual talk—and it’s leaving us more divided than ever. In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari look at how words and labels strip people of dignity, whether it’s whole communities cast as threats or the double standards baked into our justice and political systems. They don’t shy away from naming the hard stuff—how fear gets manufactured and weaponized against immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, urban neighborhoods, even teachers and neighbors. But they don’t stay stuck in outrage either. Instead, they point us back to something truer: at the end of the day, every human being wants safety, health, and belonging. Moving forward means refusing caricatures, rejecting fear-mongering, and daring to rehumanize one another.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

What holds women back from stepping fully into leadership isn’t just the boardroom—it’s the kitchen, the calendar, and the endless to-do list at home. In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa dive into Katty Kay and Claire Shipman’s The Power Code and the chapter that made them stop in their tracks: “Pots and Pans and Power.” They unpack how the unequal division of household labor—and the invisible mental load that comes with it—still limits women’s opportunities, drains ambition, and shapes confidence. From the pandemic’s toll on working mothers to the cultural undervaluing of domestic work, Kari and Lisa bring research, coaching insight, and personal stories to show why the balance must shift at home before real equality can take root anywhere else.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

 In headlines and hearings, we still see the same pattern play out: women brave enough to tell the truth are met with skepticism, hostility, or outright dismissal. That disbelief doesn’t just silence—it revictimizes, forcing survivors through systems built to malign and exhaust them, while convictions remain rare. No wonder so many choose silence, carrying fear and shame instead of justice. In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari dig into why our culture clings to doubt, and what must shift if women’s voices are ever to be truly heard.Last Chance to join us for our Fall 2025 retreat: JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreat at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town). You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

In this episode, Kari and Lisa take a closer look at the phrase "just be nice" and the cultural conditioning behind it—especially for women. They explore how niceness often masks self-silencing, emotional disconnection, and fear of conflict, while true kindness is rooted in clarity, courage, and respect. Drawing from the work of Glennon Doyle, Brené Brown, Harriet Lerner, and Resmaa Menakem—as well as research from TIME Magazine, the Journal of Behavioral Medicine, and the Newport Institute—they unpack the emotional and even physical toll of chronic niceness. With humor, honesty, and some serious fire, this conversation redefines what it means to be kind without abandoning yourself. They also reference Antoinette Griffin’s video on the difference between nice and kind, and invite listeners to let go of performative likability in favor of deeper authenticity.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa get real about something most of us experience but rarely talk about: what it feels like to live in a body that’s changing. From shifting energy and brain fog to the pressure to “age gracefully,” they unpack how culture, comparison, and internalized expectations shape the way we see ourselves. With reflections from their own lives and insights from experts like Dr. Jen Gunter, Brené Brown, and Mary Pipher, they explore what it means to stay kind to yourself, release old narratives, and live well in the body you’re in—today. They acknowledge what’s hard, but also celebrate the gift of change—because aging, for all its challenges, still beats the alternative!If you’re ready to honor the season you’re in—and live more fully in the body you have now—join Kari and Lisa this October for the Brave & Boundless retreat in Chicago. It’s a weekend for shedding old stories, deepening self-trust, and reconnecting with your power. Register now! Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

In this episode, Kari and Lisa sit down with behavioral scientist and neuroscientist Dr. Amanda Wiggins to explore what’s really happening in women’s brains during midlife—and how to support clarity, creativity, and calm in a world that often demands the opposite. From the neurological effects of burnout to the hidden cost of masking exhaustion at work, they unpack why so many women feel foggy, irritable, or depleted—and what research-backed rituals can help. Amanda shares insights from her work at The cGP Lab and draws on years of experience helping high-performing women and global organizations design environments where well-being is sustainable and real. To learn more about Amanda connect with her on LinkedIn.Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa unpack the difference between being a lighthouse—steady, grounded, and offering light—and being a lifeboat, jumping in to rescue others at their own expense. They explore how many women are praised for being selfless helpers, and how that conditioning can lead to over functioning in friendships, caregiving, and relationships. Through honest conversation and coaching wisdom, they share what it looks like to support others without losing yourself, why fixing isn’t the same as helping, and how real connection requires reciprocity and vulnerability.If you’re ready to stop bailing water and start standing in your light, join Lisa and Kari this October in Chicago, for a weekend designed to help you come home to yourself, no rescuing required. Consider yourself invited to the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreat at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode, Kari and Lisa dive into the discomfort—and the possibility—of life’s “in-between” seasons. These liminal spaces, where we’re no longer who we were but not yet who we’re becoming, can feel quiet, confusing, and unsteady. They reflect on personal and collective in-between moments, from career shifts to cultural upheaval, and how this space of becoming is ripe with transformation if we let it be. They don’t offer advice, but they do offer good questions—and a reminder that this season, strange as it may be, matters deeply.Did you know a women’s retreat might be the PERFECT way to face YOUR in-between season? JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreat at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).  You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode, Kari and Lisa talk with writer, producer, and GOLD Comedy founder Lynn Harris about the deeper power of humor—especially for women in midlife who are ready to take up more space. They explore how comedy builds confidence, shifts culture, and creates connection, and why being funny isn’t about performing—it’s about being bold, authentic, and fully yourself. Lynn shares stories from her work empowering women and nonbinary folks through GOLD Comedy, and reminds us that laughter isn’t just medicine—it’s a leadership tool. Learn more at goldcomedy.com and lynnharris.net, or connect with Lynn on LinkedIn.You know what’s NOT funny?  Our Fall Retreat is nearly full!   JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreat at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town). You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

Recorded right after the budget bill was voted in, first Lisa and Kari have their feelings then they realize this episode is more important than ever.  They explore why play matters for adults—especially during times of stress and uncertainty. From spontaneous laughter to imaginative role-playing, play isn’t just a luxury—it’s vital for connection, healing, and mental health. Drawing on research from experts like Stuart Brown and the Blatners, they unpack why adults often resist play and how we can reconnect with our playful selves. With personal stories and thoughtful questions, they invite listeners to remember the kind of fun that once lit them up—and maybe still could.Wanna connect with and PLAY  with other fun women like yourself? JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreat at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).  You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

Kari and Lisa had other plans for this week’s episode—but the world felt too heavy to ignore. They returned to Isabel Wilkerson’s Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents because it offers something essential right now: a way to understand the invisible structure beneath so much of the chaos, cruelty, and division we’re witnessing. In this conversation, they break down key ideas from the book, reflect on their own roles in the system, and connect the dots between caste and current events—from ICE raids to economic inequality to the enforcement of social hierarchies through fear and policy. This episode is about seeing what’s really holding us back—and deciding what we’re willing to do about it.Learn more about and read  Caste, by Isabel WilkersonWhere to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode, Kari and Lisa revisit the familiar concept of love languages—but with a much-needed upgrade. Drawing from personal experience, recent articles about research, and a sharp cultural critique, they unpack why the original framework, while helpful, doesn’t fully reflect the emotional realities women live today. They explore what’s missing—like mental load relief, shared enthusiasm, and alone time without guilt—and offer a richer, more honest take on how love is felt, expressed, and received in midlife and beyond. This is a conversation about expanding connection, not narrowing it—and evolving what love looks like now.JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreatat voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

Everyone’s feeling some level of stress about money in these uncertain times, so Kari and Lisa brought back financial well-being coach JD Rose—whose work is all about empowering women to shift their relationship with money. In this episode, they explore why financial struggle often isn’t about budgeting, but about safety, capacity, and the deeper stories we’ve internalized. JD shares meaningful, grounded ways to begin healing those stories and offers a fresh, compassionate perspective on what it really means to feel resourced.Learn more and/or connect with JD Rose:[email protected]://www.theresourcedwoman.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jd-rose/Inspired to invest in your empowerment with an opportunity to gather with dynamic women like you?   Join Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreat at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).  You won’t wanna miss the chance to connect with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

In this episode, Lisa and Kari take on the topic of rejection—not as a dead end, but as an opportunity to learn, grow, and realign. They share powerful examples of women who turned rejection into redirection, along with coaching insights and personal reflections on how to reframe rejection as feedback instead of failure. For a fun change, they recorded this one together in person, and the energy shows. It’s real, it’s thoughtful, and it just might shift how you see your next “no.”If you’re ready for a big YES….Join Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreatat voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpodReady to get Unstuck and become Unstoppable?Download our Masterclass; Unstuck and Unstoppable here!https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com 

In this episode of The Things We Know, hosts Kari and Lisa engage with sustainability trailblazer Maria Dowd from Dowd Solar Group, uncovering her remarkable journey from pioneering women's empowerment events to revolutionizing solar energy. Tune in to discover how smart, renewable energy choices transform communities and empower women to take control of their futures. Kari and Lisa dive into actionable insights on sustainable practices—from practical tips on reducing energy costs to inspiring ideas on how to be eco-chic, proving you can still be a fashionista who makes planet-friendly choices. You'll walk away with at least one simple, doable step to kickstart your journey toward a more vibrant, sustainable, and empowered future.More about Maria Dowd:https://dowdsolargroup.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariadowd/JOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreatat voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod

In this episode, Lisa and Kari welcome back their friend and past guest Sherry Turner to share her powerful story of resilience after losing her home in the Palisades fire earlier this year. Together, they reflect on the devastation of the January fires in Los Angeles, the myths that circulated in the media, and the often-overlooked stories of everyday people who faced loss and stepped into rebuilding. Sherry speaks candidly about her faith, grief, and transformation—from feeling like a refugee to embracing the role of a rebuilder. This heartfelt conversation honors the strength of community, the enduring power of hope, and what it means to turn tragedy into a new chapter.Resources and donation links:Red Cross: redcross.orgLA community support: lacity.gov/lastrongQuantum Queen Activation Bundle (supporting fire survivors):  https://quantumqueenlive.com/quantumqueenJOIN Lisa and Kari for the Brave & Boundless Best Chapter Yet 2025 Fall Retreatat voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).You won’t wanna miss the chance to gather with other women in an intimate retreat setting with the vibrant backdrop of downtown Chicago, combined with the levity and fun that you’re craving more of in your life.  Register now!  Where to find Kari and Lisa:The Things We Know Podcast HomepageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod