Who Thought We'd Be Here?

In this episode, we explore the evolving conversation around masculinity and the role men are trying to navigate in today’s culture. Rather than approaching the topic from extremes, this discussion looks at the tension many men feel between traditional expectations and modern societal shifts—and how that tension can create confusion around identity, purpose, responsibility, and emotional expression.We talk about what it means to show up as a grounded man in a world that often sends mixed messages: be strong but vulnerable, ambitious but balanced, independent but connected. The episode examines how social narratives, comparison, and pressure can shape behavior, while also emphasizing the importance of self-awareness, accountability, and intentional growth.This conversation isn’t about rejecting masculinity or defending outdated models of it. It’s about redefining it in a way that prioritizes character, discipline, empathy, and presence—qualities that allow men to build meaningful relationships, contribute to their communities, and live with clarity rather than reaction.Ultimately, the episode asks a simple but important question: what does healthy masculinity look like now, and how do you develop it deliberately instead of inheriting it unconsciously?Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This week’s conversation is inspired by the principles in Think and Grow Rich, but instead of reviewing the book, we explore what those ideas look like when applied to real life.We talk about the difference between wanting something and committing to it, how clarity of purpose changes the way you make decisions, and why belief isn’t just motivational language—it’s something built through repetition, action, and follow-through. The discussion centers on how mindset, persistence, and personal responsibility show up in everyday habits, creative work, and long-term goals.Rather than chasing quick results, this episode looks at the slower process of aligning your thoughts, actions, and standards so progress becomes sustainable. We also unpack the tension between discipline and doubt, and why growth often requires continuing to act even when outcomes aren’t visible yet.This is a conversation about applying timeless success principles in a modern context—less about wealth in the traditional sense, and more about building focus, direction, and consistency in the areas of life that matter most.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

Self-doubt is something almost everyone experiences — but very few people know how to talk about honestly. In this episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, we explore what self-doubt actually is, where it comes from, and how it shows up when you’re trying to grow, change, or move into a new chapter of life.Rather than framing self-doubt as something to eliminate or “fix,” this conversation looks at why doubt often appears during moments of transition, ambition, and self-reflection. We talk about the relationship between self-doubt and identity, how comparison and overthinking fuel insecurity, and why confidence isn’t the absence of doubt — it’s learning how to move forward with it.This episode also touches on how self-doubt can affect creativity, relationships, discipline, and decision-making, especially when you care deeply about the direction your life is going. We unpack the difference between healthy self-awareness and destructive inner criticism, and why learning to sit with uncertainty is a necessary part of personal growth.If you’ve ever questioned your path, second-guessed your decisions, or felt stuck between who you are and who you’re trying to become, this episode offers a grounded, honest perspective on navigating self-doubt without letting it define you.This isn’t about hype or motivation — it’s about understanding the inner tension that comes with becoming more intentional, self-aware, and aligned with the life you want to build.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This episode of "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" introduces the Renew, Reset, Release framework, a three-pillar system designed to help you move beyond traditional New Year's resolutions and create lasting, meaningful change.The episode critiques the "hustle culture" approach to new beginnings, arguing that adding more goals to an already overwhelmed life is a recipe for burnout. Instead, it proposes a sequential process of clearing out the old before inviting in the new.Stop Hustling. Start Resetting. 🔄 Tired of the same New Year's resolutions that never stick? In this episode, we break down the Renew, Reset, Release framework—a 3-step system to help you reclaim your energy and design the best year of your life.What you’ll learn:Why "adding more" is the reason most goals fail.How to conduct a personal energy audit (Renew).The secret to building systems that actually stick (Reset).How to let go of the baggage holding you back (Release).#LifeReset #GoalSetting #PersonalDevelopment #Productivity #RenewResetReleaseFollow & Review: If this episode helped you gain clarity, please leave us a 5-star review and follow the show for weekly deep dives!Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, we take a thoughtful look at the podcast’s 2025 — the areas where the show grew, the conversations that resonated most, and what we learned about consistency, depth, and community.We talk openly about where the podcast performed well and where we know we can do better. From episode frequency and content cadence to expanding the types of conversations we’re having, this episode breaks down how we’re intentionally improving the show in the year ahead.Looking toward 2026, we share our vision for growth: more episodes, more content, stronger storytelling, and a brighter, more focused future for the podcast. This is about building momentum, staying aligned with our values, and continuing to create conversations that actually matter.If you’ve been listening, supporting, or just found the show, this episode offers a clear look at where Who Thought We’d Be Here? is headed next.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this deeply personal and motivating conversation, marathon runner Ryan Carney opens up about the experiences that shaped him — from getting cut from his childhood soccer team, to losing his father at just ten years old, to discovering running as a lifeline, a discipline, and eventually a mission.Ryan shares how running became the place where he could confront grief, build identity, and learn who he truly was. He explains why he believes running is the only sport where everyday people can truly measure themselves against the best in the world, and why “never finding your ceiling” is what keeps him pushing harder.The episode dives into fatherhood, resiliency, and mental health as Ryan reveals the real stories behind his self-belief: the shame of hiding his father’s death as a kid, the lessons his mother taught him about holding pain, and how running became both therapy and purpose. He talks about burnout, discipline, and the myth that fitness can fix everything — emphasizing that running alone doesn’t solve mental health struggles.By the end, Ryan reflects on what it means to show up for your kids, how self-belief borders on healthy delusion, and why ordinary people can accomplish extraordinary things by simply — and consistently — taking the next step.It’s raw, emotional, inspiring, and a powerful look at what running, fatherhood, and healing truly teach us.You can find Ryan on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/ryjcarney/As well as the Hudson Valley Track Club: https://www.instagram.com/hudsonvalleytrackclub/Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this powerful episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, Brian Galligan is back again to talk about what it really means to rebuild yourself from the ground up. From battling insecurity and addiction to launching the Ikonical podcast and Top Dog Coverage, Brian opens up about the mindset shifts that helped him transform his pain into power.We talk about what happens when you stop chasing “Plan B” and finally make your dream your “Plan A.” From quitting drinking to finding clarity in purpose, Brian shares how staying curious, disciplined, and passionate helped him turn his creative vision into a reality.The conversation dives deep into:🔥 The power of reinvention and personal growth🏈 How football and scouting became his purpose💬 Why authentic storytelling and integrity matter in podcasting and media💡 How to keep learning and evolving at any age🧠 What it takes to stay disciplined after overcoming addiction❤️ Why vulnerability and connection are the keys to creativity🎯 How to balance ambition with presence and gratitudeBrian also breaks down the “Who, What, Where, When, Why” method he uses to ask better questions — a masterclass in interviewing and human connection that every podcaster or creator can learn from.This episode isn’t just about football or podcasting — it’s about how to show up for yourself when no one else does. It’s about turning setbacks into stepping stones and staying true to your values even when it’s not the popular route.If you’re chasing a dream, reinventing yourself, or trying to find meaning in the chaos — this episode will light you up.Check out Brian's NFL scouting coverage and podcast here:https://topdawgcoverage.com/podcasthttps://www.instagram.com/topdawgcoverageAnd the Ikonical brand here:https://ikonicalwear.com/https://www.instagram.com/ikonicalwear00:00 – Welcome Back03:00 – The Story Behind Ikonical08:15 – Turning Passion Into a Career11:45 – Escaping Negativity & Comfort Zones16:00 – Discovering Purpose Through Football22:00 – Integrity Over Clickbait28:45 – Hot Takes & Sports Media Debates34:30 – Accountability and Respect in the Industry39:00 – The Power of Mentorship44:00 – Staying a Lifelong Learner50:00 – Childhood Struggles & Feeling Underestimated58:30 – Quitting Drinking & Rebuilding Focus1:03:00 – Vulnerability and Storytelling in Podcasting1:10:30 – The Art of Asking Better Questions1:18:00 – Authenticity and Friendship1:25:00 – Learning to Be Present & Read the Room1:31:00 – What’s Next for Iconical and Top Dog Coverage1:38:00 – Behind the Scenes of College Scouting1:46:00 – The Passion and Energy of Game Day1:53:00 – Final Reflections on Growth and PurposeJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, the guys take a breath and reflect on two big turning points in their lives — Steve running his first marathon, and JP stepping into a new relationship. What starts as a casual catch-up unfolds into a deeper conversation about showing up for yourself, embracing discomfort, and learning how to open your heart again.Steve shares the highs and lows of race day: the nerves at the start line, the mental walls at mile 20, and the quiet pride that comes from finishing something that once felt impossible. Meanwhile, JP talks about the vulnerability and excitement of being in a new romantic relationship, learning to let go of old patterns, and what it means to build something real while still figuring yourself out.Together, they explore how discipline, patience, and presence are universal — whether you’re chasing a finish line or opening up to someone new. It’s an honest, grounded reminder that growth doesn’t always look the way you expect, but it’s always worth it when you keep showing up.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this solo episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, JP and Steve step back from interviews to share an honest check-in on their own self-improvement journeys. The conversation centers on the practices and mindsets they’re working on right now — slowing down to stay present, letting go of expectations that create unnecessary pressure, and rebuilding mindfulness routines that keep them grounded through both challenges and successes.They also explore the role of gratitude in everyday life, reflecting on how easy it is to overlook the good when caught up in old habits or future worries. Along the way, they open up about fears shaped by childhood, the tendency to wait for “the other shoe to drop,” and how past narratives can quietly shape present choices.The dialogue eventually turns toward faith and spirituality, with both hosts discussing how leaning into deeper meaning — even when it feels uncertain — has started to provide a new sense of purpose. By the end, JP and Steve remind listeners that self-improvement isn’t about perfection or quick fixes, but about practicing presence, gratitude, and trust in ways that make life richer and more intentional.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

Vinny Colandrea aka "The Reverb Yogi" joins JP & Steve to explain how he uses sound and vibration to guide people out of mental loops and back into present awareness. He defines his work as intentionally redirecting attention so people can “open the space to heal themselves” rather than being stuck in repetitive narrative talk therapy. He traces the arc of his practice from childhood music, through listening to teachers like Alan Watts and Eckhart Tolle, to a turning point when a gong bath produced a deep experience that pushed him from hobbyist to practitioner. He describes buying bowls and gongs, slowly building gear, and being invited to play at yoga classes before committing more fully to the work. Vinny talks about keeping a firefighting career while developing sound work — he frames both as service, and describes bringing gongs into the firehouse to normalize different expressions of masculinity and presence. He emphasizes blending identities rather than forcing a split between “work” and “life.” The episode covers both experiential and practical terrain: what a sound session feels like, how people often arrive skeptical and leave surprised and expanded, how sound helps people step out of story and into “timeless inner awareness,” and why physical vibration can feel viscerally different from recorded sound. Vinny explains instrument choice and notes that many of his gongs sit in the low bass range producing a bodily vibration you don't often feel in everyday life. He also shares practical daily practices and technologies that support presence: Shambhavi Mahamudra (a 21-minute Sadhguru practice he does), using driving or running as opportunities for awareness, and simple prompts to pull attention into the present. Vinny describes entrainment (the grandfather-clock metaphor) — how a room’s dominant energy pulls less-stable energies into sync — and how holding calm leadership in a room changes outcomes.Vinny addresses plant medicine and psychedelics with nuance: he’s seen powerful, useful experiences (ayahuasca, psilocybin, cacao), stresses intention and setting, and shares a specific ayahuasca retreat where diet and careful preparation allowed medicine to convey precise insights. He frames plants as tools that can expand pathways to presence when used responsibly, not as escapes. You can find Vinny on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/reverb_yogi/View his upcoming events here: https://bio.site/reverbyogiAnd his website here: https://www.reverbyogi.com/Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, JP and Steve take a step back from guests and topics to reflect on each other’s expertise — the qualities, habits, and skills that have shaped their friendship, creative work, and this podcast.The conversation begins with life updates: how new routines, fatherhood, and studio life have influenced their focus and energy. From there, the hosts shift into a deeper dialogue about what they’ve noticed in one another over the years. Patience, for instance, comes up as a strength that shows itself not only in relationships and sobriety, but also in how they’ve navigated rescheduling, setbacks, and long-term goals. Service is another recurring theme, with the lessons of working in restaurants — empathy, small acts of impact, attention to detail — carrying over into podcasting and everyday life.They also highlight the behind-the-scenes craft that doesn’t always get noticed: editing, production, and the willingness to improve through trial and error. That leads naturally into a discussion about curiosity — how asking better questions unlocks deeper conversations, solutions, and perspectives. Finally, they talk about consistency as a defining quality: not glamorous, but the key driver behind the growth of their podcast, careers, and personal lives.By naming these strengths in each other, JP and Steve reveal the foundation of their creative partnership. It’s a conversation about recognition, gratitude, and growth — and a reminder that sometimes the people closest to us can see our best qualities more clearly than we can ourselves.0:00 – Intro 5:00 – Parenthood, Routines & Focus 10:00 – Studio Life & Learning the Craft 15:00 – Why Structure Matters: New Segments 20:00 – Patience, Service & Life Lessons 25:00 – Technical Growth & Editing Wins 30:00 – Curiosity, Conversations & Questions 35:00 – Consistency, Streaks & Long-Game Thinking 40:00 – Future Ideas & Wrap-UpJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we sit down with Anthony Serino, hypnotist and mindset coach, for a powerful deep dive into how the subconscious mind shapes every aspect of our lives. Anthony opens up about his own struggles with anxiety, identity, and self-sabotage, and how discovering hypnosis gave him the tools to rewire his thinking and change his life.He breaks down what hypnosis really is — not stage tricks or mind control — but a practical way to quiet the noise, access the subconscious, and rewrite the patterns that drive our habits, fears, and beliefs. Anthony shares how he uses hypnosis with clients to break cycles of procrastination, imposter syndrome, and even addiction, showing that transformation doesn’t come from willpower alone but from shifting the underlying stories we believe about ourselves.Throughout the conversation, Anthony emphasizes the importance of presence and self-awareness, explaining how slowing down allows us to recognize the unconscious scripts that keep us stuck. We also talk about how hypnosis can help entrepreneurs, creatives, and everyday people stop “getting in their own way” and instead build confidence, clarity, and momentum in their personal and professional lives.By the end of the episode, Anthony leaves us with practical advice for anyone ready to change: start small, stay consistent, and recognize that your subconscious mind isn’t your enemy — it’s the key to unlocking your potential.You can find Anthony on Social Media Here - https://www.instagram.com/theanthonyserino/https://www.tiktok.com/@anthonyserinohttps://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@anthonyserino⁩  His website - https://www.anthonyserino.com/And the MindMod App - https://mindmod.com/0:00 Intro & Background  01:20 Anthony’s Mental Health Struggles & Turning Point  04:10 Discovering Hypnosis & Personal Transformation  07:30 Childhood Bullying, Trauma & Identity Struggles  12:00 Suicide & Existential Crisis  15:40 Depression, Anxiety & Coping with Emotional Eating  20:10 Hitting Rock Bottom & Finding Hope  23:45 First Hypnosis Experience & Skepticism  27:00 Major Life Changes: Weight Loss, Business Growth, G-Wagon  29:15 How Hypnosis Works Neurologically  34:20 Subconscious Programming & Everyday Hypnosis  37:50 Starting to Practice Hypnosis & Helping Others  42:10 Selling Business & Going Full-Time in Coaching  44:00 Action + Mindset: Practical Manifestation Explained  48:20 Overcoming Fear of Taking Action  52:00 Faith, Christianity & Manifestation Alignment  55:00 Identity, Shame & Renewing the Mind  58:00 Building Resilience, Facing Criticism & Subconscious Triggers  59:50 MindMod App, Hypnosis Resources & Closing Thoughts Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode of WTWBH, Steve and JP sit down with Lauren Hoheusle, the owner of Chakra Bowls Cafe, to discuss the intersection of nutrition, mental health, and entrepreneurship. Lauren shares her personal journey, explaining how a tragic loss in 2014 led her to dive deeper into understanding the impact of nutrition on the brain, emotions, and overall well-being.Lauren emphasizes the interconnectedness of what we eat and how we feel, both physically and mentally. She explains how her own health struggles motivated her to explore holistic approaches to wellness, blending nutrition, mental health, and spirituality. As an entrepreneur in the health and wellness space, Lauren provides insights on navigating the nuances of organic, natural, and processed foods, and shares her go-to wellness brands and supplements.One of Lauren's passions is improving the nutritional quality of meals served in schools and hospitals. She shares her vision for bringing more wholesome, plant-based options to these institutions, with the goal of positively impacting the health and well-being of children and patients. Lauren also credits her yoga and meditation practices as crucial to her personal growth and healing, discussing how these mindfulness techniques have helped her through challenging times.Throughout the episode, Lauren emphasizes the holistic approach to health and wellness that she advocates for, blending nutrition, mental health, and entrepreneurship. Her inspiring story and practical insights offer valuable lessons for anyone looking to improve their overall well-being and make a positive impact in their community.You can follow Lauren on her wellness journey here: https://www.instagram.com/laurenho524/Chakra Bowls Here: https://www.instagram.com/chakrabowlsAnd visit the Chakra Bowls website here: https://chakrabowlscafe.com/0:00 Lauren shares her journey founding Chakra Bowls Café 3:30 how the food we eat directly impacts mood and brain function. 7:00 meal planning, cleanses, and building a balanced relationship with food. 11:30 the highs and lows of running a wellness-focused café and food truck. 16:00  slowing down, managing stress, and avoiding burnout as an entrepreneur. 20:30 the healing power of whole foods and the philosophy behind Chakra Bowls. 25:00 letting go of perfectionism creates more joy and authenticity. 30:00 how the body signals stress and ways to stay grounded. 35:00 importance of community and connection in healing. 40:00 definition of success has shifted toward health and alignment. 45:00  practical tools for resilience and living with intention. 50:00 closing reflections on healing and authenticity.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

Michael Chernow — restaurateur, entrepreneur, endurance athlete, and founder of Kreatures of Habit — joins us for a brutally honest conversation about addiction, recovery, discipline, and building a life worth living.From running some of New York City’s most iconic restaurants to hitting rock bottom with drugs and alcohol, Michael’s journey is a masterclass in transformation. He shares the moment he realized, “I’m gonna die. I hate myself,” and how that pain became the catalyst for an entirely new way of living.  We go deep into what sobriety really means — and why quitting drinking or drugs is only step one. Michael breaks down the routines, mindset shifts, and non-negotiables that keep him on track:Why discipline beats motivation every timeThe morning routine that builds your “foundation” for the dayThe 3 C’s that guide his life — Commitment, Confidence, and CourageHow community and accountability play a vital role in staying soberWhy entrepreneurship is about people, not just profitThe story behind Kreatures of Habit and his newest product launchFollow Michael on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/michaelchernow/And visit the Kreatures of Habit website here: https://kreaturesofhabit.com/3:00 – Restaurants and cocaine 5:45 – Life is pain 6:30 – Self-proclaimed savage; life is pure sober 8:30 – Glass half full; wine sales down 40% 9:30 – School picture policy; getting off phones 12:00 – Boundaries around quality time; work/life balance 14:00 – True wealth is the people you love 15:20 – Entrepreneur mindset: “Who am I working 14 hours a day for?” 20:00 – Happiness in Denmark and work policies 22:00 – Purpose is love, not just drive 25:00 – Sobriety advice: stay in the present moment 26:45 – Building your foundation in the morning 28:30 – “Don’t trip at the starting line” — I am a miracle 30:00 – Your brain on alcoholism 31:30 – Doing what you say as a superpower 35:15 – Guilt from the past 40:00 – Calling the man who saved my life on my sober anniversary 41:45 – The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle 43:00 – Relationship with God and dealing with fear 46:00 – We are built to endure hard things 47:00 – Turning up your awareness 50:00 – “I’m gonna die. I hate myself” — Michael’s rock bottom 54:00 – Daily routine for sobriety 1:01:30 – Diet & exercise: The 3 C’s (Commitment, Confidence, Courage) 1:04:00 – AA meetings daily 1:06:10 – Community in sobriety 1:08:00 – Story of Kreatures of Habit 1:12:00 – Crowdfunding a business venture 1:14:30 – Tony Robbins: “All you need is 100 raving fans” 1:15:30 – Kreatures of Habit protein bar announcement 1:17:00 – Closing thoughts & thanksJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, stand-up comedian David Stickle gets honest about the messy, uncomfortable, and hilarious process of becoming a comic. He opens up about how terrifying his early sets were, what it’s like to bomb in front of a crowd, and why anxiety still shows up before every performance — no matter how many times he’s done it.David shares how stand-up helped him move through self-doubt, build confidence, and discover a deeper version of himself on stage. From managing hecklers to balancing authenticity with the pressure to be liked, this conversation explores the tension between fear and courage — and the power of doing the hard thing anyway.If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to get up there and try to make people laugh, this one’s for you.00:00 – Intro & meeting David Stickle  03:15 – How David got into stand-up and his first few sets  07:40 – What bombing on stage taught him  11:25 – Anxiety and the moments right before going on  15:50 – Building stage presence & emotional resilience  20:30 – Balancing vulnerability and humor  26:05 – The pressure to be liked vs. being yourself  30:40 – When the jokes aren’t landing  35:15 – Processing fear and rejection after a bad set  39:00 – Why he keeps returning to stand-up  44:10 – Comedy as a tool for authenticity and self-growth  48:00 – Are we ever actually *ready* to do the hard thing?  51:45 – Finding confidence through repetition and discomfort  56:15 – The vulnerability hangover after being fully seen  59:20 – Shifting expectations and defining personal success  1:03:10 – How the audience changes the performer  1:06:30 – What keeps him grounded when it gets hard  1:10:45 – Letting go of needing approval  1:14:00 – Advice for anyone thinking about starting stand-up  1:17:40 – Final reflections and outroJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this stripped-back solo episode, your favorite co-hosts return to one of their original recording spots — but they’re not the same people they were when they started. It’s a full-circle moment, and what follows is an open, emotional conversation about growth, fatherhood, sobriety, and self-work.They reflect on the idea that quitting drinking didn’t solve everything. “I thought quitting drinking would fix everything. It didn’t.” Sobriety, they realize, was just step one. The real challenge was facing the emotional pain, the loneliness, the avoidance, and the hard truths about themselves.They talk about impending fatherhood, breaking generational trauma, navigating identity without numbing, and the quiet struggle of maintaining self-care when it doesn’t feel like it’s working. The most powerful theme? That healing isn’t about one big moment — it’s about showing up, again and again, even on the days that suck.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this powerful and heart-centered episode, we sit down with Federico Fridman, co-founder of Cacao Lab, to explore how plants, fatherhood, and men’s work transformed his relationship with himself and the world around him.Federico shares how ceremonial cacao went from a personal healing practice to a thriving business built with his sister and rooted in ancestral connection. He opens up about what it means to lead as a man today — one who holds space, embraces softness, and unlearns shame — all while navigating the real-life challenges of entrepreneurship, emotional growth, and fatherhood.This episode is an honest look at how we break cycles, find purpose, and choose presence — even when life doesn’t go as planned.Whether you're curious about cacao, evolving as a leader, or simply trying to show up more fully in your life, this conversation is a beautiful starting point.Join Federico's Men's circle and other mindful events at Kelta here: https://www.kelta.life/eventsSupport Cacao Lab Here: https://www.instagram.com/cacaolaboratory/ https://cacaolaboratory.com/And watch our episode with Federico's partner Taylor Lyons here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMWk3V0MoAY&t=880s00:00 – Intro: What ceremonial cacao really is and why it matters  05:20 – Building a business rooted in ancestral respect & family healing  12:00 – From personal ritual to a global cacao brand  17:40 – Men's circles: creating space for honesty, softness & safety  22:00 – How fatherhood shifted everything emotionally & spiritually  30:50 – Burnout, boundaries & showing up as a leader who’s still healing  38:50 – Sobriety, ceremony, and the joy that came after nightlife  46:30 – The moment Federico found out he was becoming a father  52:50 – Identity, roots, and building a life between Argentina & upstate NY  59:00 – Legacy, love, and preparing for what's next  01:10:30 – Final reflections & where to connect with FedericoJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we sit down with Katie Parent, a licensed therapist and holistic healer, to explore what healing really means—beyond talk therapy and into the body, the nervous system, and lived experience.Katie shares how she combines traditional mental health practices with somatic tools, nervous system regulation, and energy work like Reiki to support people through trauma, burnout, and the messy process of becoming more whole. We discuss the difference between survival mode and true self-awareness, how trauma often lives in the body long after the mind thinks it’s healed, and why so many people are stuck in patterns that aren't their fault—but are their responsibility to shift.She also opens up about her own healing path, including childhood trauma, divorce, and what it means to show up as a therapist who’s still doing the work. We dive into addiction as an expression of unmet needs, the impact of little-t trauma, and why healing doesn't happen in isolation—it happens in connection.If you've ever felt burned out, numb, overly responsible, or like you're doing all the "right" things and still not feeling better, this one’s for you00:00:00 – Meet Katie: therapist, healer, space holder  00:01:00 – Therapy, energy work & bridging science with spirituality  00:05:00 – Trauma in the body vs. talk therapy  00:10:00 – The nervous system, survival mode & burnout  00:17:00 – Chronic stress, digestion & trauma in the organs  00:22:00 – Childhood patterns, anxiety & confidence  00:30:00 – Relationships, parenting, and healing through connection  00:38:00 – Katie’s personal trauma & therapist identity  00:44:00 – Shame, addiction, self-talk & emotional reparenting  00:53:00 – Root-cause healing & readiness for change  01:00:00 – Reiki, emotional pain & asking for help  01:10:00 – Daily practices: hydration, cold showers, nervous system care  01:15:00 – Where to find Katie + what’s coming nextJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this raw and inspiring episode, we sit down with Allen Wong — filmmaker, distance runner, and former addict — to explore how endurance sports and creativity helped him rebuild his identity from the ground up.Allen opens up about his chaotic past: growing up in a traditional Asian household, falling into addiction during his years of heavy partying, and losing his sense of self. But after COVID forced him into isolation, something shifted. He started running. Then filming. Then healing.From shooting marathon footage with a GoPro to building a tight-knit community of runners and recovering friends, Allen shares how storytelling and suffering on the road gave him a new reason to live. We talk about imposter syndrome, the loneliness of social media, the power of faith in yourself, and what it means to put something out into the world even when you think no one’s watching.If you’ve ever felt lost, like you’ve burned bridges or missed your moment — this one’s for you.00:00–Intro: Meet Allen Wong01:00–How Allen met the hosts through filming and running05:00–Allen’s 24-hour race shoot and the “Walking Dead” lean07:00–The story of addiction begins: fake IDs, rebellion, and burnout11:00–COVID isolation and why it was the wake-up call Allen needed13:00–From 210 lbs to his first run: how running changed everything15:00–First half marathon and falling in love with the process17:00–Discovering YouTube running creators & picking up a GoPro19:00–Getting into trail running & documenting the journey21:00–Growing up poor, bullied, and learning resilience23:00–How addiction gave him a superpower when redirected25:00–Rebuilding his relationship with his parents28:00–Getting into filmmaking, thanks to friends and YouTube30:00–First time filming a real athlete and making it work32:00–Creating content that inspired friends to run too34:00–The impact of storytelling and impostor syndrome35:00–Running the NYC Marathon in memory of a lost friend37:00–Being humbled by the marathon and coming back stronger39:00–Documenting his story with UPS and seeing it on the big screen41:00–Why he films “regular people” instead of elite runners49:00–What running really gives you — and why it’s more than fitness51:00–Faith, flow states, and doing the hard thing on purpose53:00–Running as spiritual practice and life mirror56:00–The importance of delayed gratification1:00:00–Why the marathon humbles you (and why that's a gift)1:02:00–Creating from vulnerability: "You’re never fully ready, just hit publish"1:04:00–Allen on imposter syndrome and doing it anyway1:08:30–The power of showing up for others & building creative community1:10:30–From self-doubt to impact: when someone says your work changed their life1:17:00–Post-creative anxiety and releasing attachment to the outcome1:19:00–Why hard conversations are worth it, even when they’re awkward1:21:00–Allen’s advice for anyone stuck or scared: “Fuck it, let’s ball”1:23:00–Allen’s personal “council” of inspiration1:25:00–Where to find Allen online Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we sit down with Jess Kravit, founder of Exalted Alchemy, to dive deep into the world of herbalism, natural wellness, entrepreneurship, and energetic healing. Jess breaks down what it really means to be a clinical herbalist in a modern world that’s both disconnected from nature and hungry for authenticity.From her journey with food-as-medicine and flower essences to the intentional, vibe-rich creation of her skincare, tinctures, and candles, Jess shares how she’s built a business that feels like an extension of self — and how she's learned to separate her identity from her brand. The conversation covers everything from garlic’s antiviral powers to the FDA's impact on herbalists, flower essence therapy, and the real energy behind making something by hand.00:00 – Intro & Meet Jess 00:01:11 – The Reality of Running a Product-Based Business 00:03:39 – Community & Entrepreneurial Friendships 00:04:58 – Herbalism Origins: From Vegetarianism to Clinical Study 00:07:03 – Toxic Skincare & Ingredient Awareness 00:08:25 – Food Disconnection & the Pharma Parallel 00:10:02 – Taste as Medicine: Why Capsules Aren’t Enough 00:11:34 – Exalted Alchemy Product Overview 00:13:03 – Skincare, Naming Products & Childhood Dreams 00:16:05 – Developing Ritual Products & Specialty Collaborations 00:17:36 – Top Go-To Herbs: Nettles, Elderberry & Garlic 00:20:01 – Garlic Suppositories & Alternative Treatments 00:21:27 – The Legal Limits of Herbalists 00:24:01 – Herbalism Is Ancestral Memory 00:25:21 – Customer Education & Skepticism 00:28:18 – Product Matching for Mental Health 00:31:11 – Flower Essences vs. Herbal Remedies 00:34:10 – Saint John’s Wort & Nerve Support 00:35:38 – Infusing Brand with Personality — and Separating from It 00:38:25 – Vibes, Intention & Energy in Products 00:41:15 – Making Tinctures, Face Oils & Energetic Skincare 00:44:16 – Flower Essences: How They’re Made 00:47:09 – Mental Health & Emotional Healing with Flower Essences 00:54:04 – From Survival to Thriving with Plants 00:58:11 – Live Demo: Grounding Spray Experience 01:00:16 – Candle Rituals & Gemini Moon Energy#Herbalism, #HerbalMedicine, #NaturalHealing, #HolisticHealth, #PlantMedicine, #EnergeticHealing, #FlowerEssenceTherapy, #FoodAsMedicine, #AlternativeMedicine, #EnergyHealing, #VibrationalHealing, #HealingJourney, #SpiritualWellness, #ConsciousLiving, #RitualsMatter, #HealingVibes, #MentalHealthAwareness, #GroundingPractices, #RestIsProductive, #MindBodySoul, #BurnoutRecovery, #ConsciousBusiness, #SpiritualEntrepreneur, #WellnessBrand, #AuthenticBranding, #CreativeEntrepreneur, #FounderStory, #PodcastInterview, #WellnessPodcast, #HealingPodcast, #YouTubePodcast, #WomenInWellness, #HealingConversations, #HolisticLivingJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In Episode 064, we sit down with Nick Spencer, martial artist, business owner, and founder of Snake Hill Jiu-Jitsu, for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about healing, identity, and building something real. From military police service to managing PTSD, Nick shares how Jiu-Jitsu became not just a discipline, but a path to personal evolution.We explore how plant medicine and psychedelics, like ayahuasca, reshaped his understanding of ego and trauma, and how community, communication, and showing up authentically have become the backbone of his business and relationships. This episode dives into the realities of co-owning a studio with his brother, confronting trauma from working in a morgue during the height of COVID, and finding strength through vulnerability.Whether you're into martial arts, mental health, or just trying to live more intentionally, this episode will leave you reflecting on what it means to be truly yourself.Check out Nick and Snake Hill Jiu-jitsu here -https://snakehilljiujitsu.com/https://www.instagram.com/snakehill_jiujitsu/0:30 our guest this week, Nick Spencer, Martial Arts Instructor & Founder of Snake Hill Jiu-Jitsu4:00 Building a safe community and culture within a Jiu-Jitsu Studio8:30 finding your mental edge in a healthy physical outlet12:00 Biggest lessons from teaching Jiu-Jitsu and owning your own business18:00 Co-owning a studio and business with your older brother20:00 Nick’s military police officer experience with PTSD and neck injuries 23:00 confronting trauma from the covid summer working for the morgue in NYC27:00 plant medicine, ayahuasca and PTSD32:00 the effects of powerful psychedelics on your ego40:00 how friendships and we view our friends evolve over time46:45 developing your own identity through yourself instead of perception49:00 just be who you are and being yourself in your relationship via communication54:00 books that have helped us on our journey1:02:00 Nick’s favorite podcasts1:06:00 the importance of community and family when building a business1:11:00 finding religion and attending Catholic/Christian school1:25:00 showing up authentically in your relationships and your business1:30:00 Nick asks us what our next big move is1:38:00 Nick’s council of decision makersJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this powerful and unfiltered episode, the hosts sit down with Bryce Eckwall, founder of Q29 Productions, for a deep conversation about the intersection of creativity, entrepreneurship, healing, and self-worth.The episode opens with a behind-the-scenes look at how real conversations are sparked—before the mics even turn on. The trio discusses the balance between structure and spontaneity in podcasting and how authenticity builds trust and connection. Bryce shares how podcasting became a gateway to deeper relationships and business opportunities, even calling it "the new business card" for entrepreneurs.What follows is a raw and inspiring story of transformation. Bryce recounts how a chance encounter with Daymond John of Shark Tank led to one of the most pivotal moments in his creative career. But the story goes far beyond that—it’s about the grind, the waiting, the follow-ups, and the quiet self-belief it takes to break through.The conversation deepens into themes of sobriety, addiction, and how the obsessive nature that once fueled destructive habits can be redirected into creative success. All three participants open up about their journeys with substance use, routine, anxiety, and overthinking—highlighting the mental toll that high-performance creative work can take.They explore the line between ego and intention in content creation. Is sharing your story self-promotion or service? How do creators navigate the blurred boundary between personal healing and public storytelling? Bryce speaks candidly about building his personal brand, facing criticism, and realizing that showing up consistently—and imperfectly—is often more valuable than going viral.As the conversation unfolds, topics range from:Mindset, routines, and mental healthThe power of storytelling in brandingAuthenticity vs. clickbait in social mediaFear of failure in both business and personal relationshipsHow content creation becomes therapyThe episode culminates in a powerful exchange on self-worth, vulnerability, and the pressure to be seen. The hosts also share personal reflections—on fatherhood, imposter syndrome, growth, and how podcasting has become a meaningful act of service in their own lives.Whether you're an entrepreneur, a creator, or someone navigating your own transformation, this episode is a reminder that behind every success is a story of struggle—and that your story is worth telling.Big thanks to Bryce ( https://www.instagram.com/brycewallll/ ) for both hosting us and joining us on this episode.  Be sure to check out Bryce and the team at Q29 productions at their website: https://www.q29productions.com/ and their instagram: https://www.instagram.com/q29videoJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This week we sit down with Steve Strong of the Dungeons in the Attic podcast for a deeply honest conversation about personal transformation. Steve opens up about his experiences with trauma, mental health, and the emotional weight he carried from childhood into adulthood. We explore how stubbornness shaped him, how tabletop role-playing games became a space for healing and connection, and the unexpected lessons found in the restaurant industry and fantasy storytelling alike. It’s a raw, reflective, and ultimately hopeful conversation about becoming the person you needed when you were younger.0:00 our guest this week is Steve Strong, part of the “Dungeons in the Attic” podcast3:30 Steves thoughts on the current state of mental health5:50 Steve’s love for Kid Cudi10:00 the value of asking yourself and others important questions12:00 the power of connecting with people through the service industry17:00 Atlas from Greek mythology and carrying the burdens of others on your shoulders19:30 “The person I am now is all the things that I was never given as a child”23:00 the traumatic and isolating events in Steve’s life that forced him to fix himself or kill himself27:00 lessons in humility and stubbornness32:00 a transforming compliment from his stepfather35:00 You can always work a little bit day by day on yourself36:30 “my thing now is trying to elevate people, not bury them”43:45 Steve’s origin in the restaurant industry48:00 getting addicted to being around other people and avoiding loneliness51:00 Breaking down Dungeons and Dragons and other story based tabletop RPGs54:00 escaping reality through these games57:00 describing the cinematic world of “Dungeons in the Attic”1:06:00 these games are about the journey, not a winner or loser01:12:00 prioritizing story over rules in a rules-like game1:19:00 Steve’s council1:27:00 Be sure to check outJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This week, we're joined by actor, improv teacher, and creative soul Connor Bond for a deep, hilarious, and honest conversation about what it really means to navigate life, creativity, and identity. We talk about Connor’s journey through different seasons of growth, from teaching improv to kids to finding purpose beyond traditional career paths. He shares the emotional balancing act of doing work that matters—learning to embrace both the anxiety and the excitement that come with it.We explore how skills from improv and acting can cross over into everyday life, including the importance of connection, vulnerability, and staying rooted in the present. Connor shares his personal philosophies on the relationship between narrative, game theory, and character building, and how letting go of ego has reshaped his approach to both his craft and his personal growth.Along the way, we dive into everything from existential philosophy to childhood wonder, discussing authors like Wittgenstein and Kierkegaard, the surprising lessons you learn from babies, and the idea that "everything is a coincidence—and that's okay." Connor also reflects on learning to accept life’s ups and downs without labeling every experience as good or bad, and why finding joy in imperfection might be the real secret to it all.The episode wraps with a fun, improv-inspired challenge, a hilarious reflection on Connor’s early exposure to Eraserhead, and a heartfelt discussion about the struggle—and beauty—of living authentically in a chaotic world.Find Connor online here: https://www.connorbondactor.com/https://www.instagram.com/bond_connorbond/Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This episode is a vulnerable look into the tug-of-war between ambition and self-acceptance. Steve and JP explore the quiet, often overwhelming internal dialogue that comes with trying to grow—physically, mentally, emotionally—while constantly questioning if you're doing enough. From the guilt of taking a day off, to spiraling thoughts about falling behind, to the fear of actually becoming the best version of yourself, this conversation unpacks the complex relationship we have with discipline, identity, and self-worth.They dig into the concept of imposter syndrome, not just as a label, but as a real emotional experience that colors everything from creative work to personal wellness. There's also an honest discussion about breaking free from the need to control outcomes, and instead learning to live in the gray area—where progress isn’t always visible, but presence is everything.For anyone who’s ever wrestled with the voice that says you’re not doing enough, or questioned your place in the life you’re building—this one’s for you. It’s a raw reminder that seeking the answers is part of the work.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we’re joined by Manny Jimenez — a real estate agent, martial artist, and man of deep faith — for an honest conversation about identity, growth, and staying grounded in a world full of noise. Manny opens up about his personal journey, from navigating insecurities in his youth to becoming a disciplined and purpose-driven man rooted in spiritual values.He shares how his faith has shaped his approach to life and business, the lessons he’s learned through martial arts, and why vulnerability and emotional honesty are essential to true masculinity. We dive into the challenges of staying authentic on social media, letting go of ego, and learning to embrace the hard stuff — because failure is just feedback.This episode is a reminder that strength doesn’t mean perfection, and that staying rooted in your values — especially faith and family — is the real foundation for becoming who you’re meant to be.Check out Manny on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/mannysellsupstate1:00 the willingness to be kind despite people thinking it may not be genuine3:00 Who is Manny Jimenez? And how did he get here?4:30 the reality and expectations of social media5:30 God has already made you “enough” and being your best self6:30 Don’t let material things change what you are rooted in7:30 The origin of Manny’s Christian faith10:00 Your faith is more than your belief, it’s about action12:00 dealing with insecurity and growing into yourself with family dynamics14:30 the people who shaped Manny to be who he is authentically today16:30 the bold moment where Manny faced his insecurity as a teenager19:00 Failure is feedback20:00 The discipline and vulnerability of martial arts 29:00 Life is simple, but it’s not easy32:30 life is just the art of becoming who you are35:00 the importance of men being vulnerable and having conversations about your feelings39:30 dealing with the stereotype of what it means to be a man and defining that for yourself45:00 you need people in your life that don’t let you quit47:00 being a rooted man in your masculine energy50:00 asking yourself the question “Is this the man I want to be?”57:00 You have to know the price of the things you want in life1:00:00 being your authentic self on your career journey1:07:00 the origin of the name “Who Thought We’d Be Here?”1:17:00 Gratitude brings me back to baseline, even in a huge victory1:25:00 Steve reflects on becoming a father soon1:30:00 Manny reflects on remembering that our parents are humans who make mistakes too1:38:00 Manny’s council1:45:00 Will you say yes to the negative thoughts then they pop into your head?Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

How many days have you lived? We kick off this episode with a little math problem to put time into perspective. Then, we reflect on the journey of this podcast, the variety of guests we have lined up, and the growing pains of figuring out what it means to turn a passion into a business.The conversation turns deep as we discuss the struggle of trying to figure things out before the answers are even meant to be clear. We talk about the dangerous habit of comparing your journey to someone else’s, letting go of victimhood, and analyzing the role our egos play in how we react to life’s challenges. It’s all about taking ownership of your emotions—whether good or bad—and learning to not take everything so personally.We also touch on the idea that the past is a trap, and the future is uncertain, so how do we navigate life without getting stuck in either? The discussion leads us into Sahil Bloom’s concept of the five types of wealth—time, social, mental, physical & financial—and how redefining wealth can completely change the way we approach life. Most of us aren’t chasing money; we’re chasing freedom.From there, we dive into the balance between business and creativity—how do we maintain passion while also keeping our work sustainable? And we ask ourselves the big questions: What should we talk about on the podcast? What are the boundaries? What are the conversations that need to happen, even if they’re uncomfortable?One of those uncomfortable topics is addiction—specifically, the struggle with pornography, loneliness, and how shame plays a massive role in personal battles. We break down how the person who judges you the most is often yourself, and how self-forgiveness is crucial in moving forward.The episode closes with a discussion on energy—redirecting it into things that truly matter, finding fulfillment from within rather than external validation, and learning how to break free from distractions and addictions that keep us from our highest potential.It’s a deep, thought-provoking episode that tackles ego, emotions, personal growth, and what it really means to build a fulfilling life.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we sit down with Taylor Lyons, owner of Kelta Wellness Center, a space dedicated to cutting-edge wellness technology, including sensory deprivation tanks, meditation beds, sauna therapy, and cold plunges. Taylor shares her journey from being a school teacher to a certified yoga instructor and entrepreneur, detailing what led her to create a space where people can disconnect from overstimulation and focus on introspective self-care.We dive deep into the science and experience of sensory deprivation floating, discussing how it resets the mind and body, improves mental clarity, and fosters deep relaxation. Taylor explains how her own experience with anxiety and stress led her to explore wellness practices, from retreats and life coaching to therapy and intimacy counseling.Beyond wellness, we explore the raw realities of motherhood, including the stress of pregnancy, postpartum struggles, "mom brain," and the identity shifts that come with raising a child. Taylor introduces us to the "Flamingo Theory of Motherhood", a powerful metaphor for regaining your sense of self while balancing the chaos of parenting.Check out Taylor & Kelta on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itstaylorbree/https://www.instagram.com/kelta.life/Visit Kelta's website to book a self care service: www.kelta.life3:00 Kelta is a space with wellness technology to provide patrons with introspective self care6:20 the quiet and zen atmosphere at kelta for sauna, cold plunge, meditation bed, and sensory deprivation tanks7:00 in depth explanation on the comfort experience of the meditation bed 13:00 sensory deprivation floating benefits, Joe Rogan, and Stranger Things14:30 Taylor’s personal connection and experience with sensory deprivation tanks and bringing it to Beacon19:00 using sensory deprivation to reset in today’s world of constant overstimulation23:00 Taylor’s trip to Costa Rica and her journey from school teacher to certified yoga instructor 28:00 how Taylor’s anxiety as a child led to her personal development journey 34:00 prioritizing spending money on valuable experiences like courses, life coaching and travel39:00 Spending money on your wellness is priceless, if your body is broken, you need to take care of it41:00 the journey to motherhood, building a family and business simultaneously 45:00 Taylor’s “pedal to the medal” pregnancy and the stress and anxiety she went through52:00 post partum struggles of rediscovering your identity after having a child55:00 the challenge of “mom brain” and learning to ask for help 59:00 even something as simple as walking your dog becomes a difficult process when you have a baby1:01:00 “the flamingo theory of motherhood” and how Taylor is getting her pink back1:07:00 the value of flexibility in your life as parenthood brings chaos and change1:09:30 being able to laugh at yourself and not take yourself so seriously1:12:30 regaining your childhood innocence and desire for fun as you mature1:15:00 “I don’t wanna be the mom that says no, I’m gonna do the thing”Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we reflect on the challenge of maintaining consistency and accountability in both the podcast and everyday life. We share our experience in a sensory deprivation tank in preparation for an upcoming episode, while we discuss the importance of movement, yoga, and staying active—especially as Steve sets his goal to be in top shape before the baby arrives.We dive into the mental struggles of content creation, the discipline of journaling, and insights from The Daily Stoic and The Celestine Prophecy. The conversation turns to therapy, the power of men opening up about their emotions, and how understanding control dramas can reshape relationships.From the necessity of breathwork and mindfulness to battling rumination and self-doubt, we explore the reality that growth never truly ends—"new levels, new devils." We also touch on the idea that moving to a new place won’t fix your problems if you bring the same mindset with you. And in a lighter moment, Eleanor gets cast as the perfect tea kettle for Beauty and the Beast.Finally, we discuss addiction beyond substances, the importance of steadiness in the face of anger, and remind you (and ourselves) to get your shit together—@Whoop, we’re looking at you.0:00 trying to regain consistency and accountability in the podcast1:00 sensory deprivation tank experience for upcoming Kelta podcast5:00 what it feels like to be 056 episodes in8:00 the importance of movement, and the accountability of going to yoga10:30 Steve wants to be jacked by the time the baby comes12:00 Josh Brolin on the Daily Stoic and finding 5 minutes in the morning for the basics like journaling14:00 the struggle of wanting to make content and the work that goes into it15:30 Reading “The Celestine Prophecy”, control dramas, and “The Body Keeps the Score”16:30 trying to figure out therapy and the power of men talking about therapy and their feelings26:00 being flexible in your habits and flowing through your routine32:00 Using tools like breath work instead of wallowing34:00 “sometimes the hardest thing to do is just doing what you’re supposed to do”37:00 avoiding rumination by pausing and being present39:40 “new levels, new devils”42:30 the battles never end, they just get a little easier45:00 you could move to another city, but you’re still bring you with you50:00 Eleanor would make a good tea kettle in the beauty and the beast51:30 the importance of steadiness and being calm in the face of anger53:00 addiction isn’t just drugs and alcohol55:00 Get your shit together @whoopJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we open up about the evolving role of family in our lives and the unexpected ways it shapes us. From navigating the overwhelming nature of big life changes to learning how to be present with the people who matter most, we reflect on the moments that define us. We talk about the resistance that comes with pushing ourselves toward new goals, the importance of giving ourselves grace in times of self-doubt, and why deep, honest conversations—especially with our parents—can be so transformative. JP shares his personal struggle with overthinking, and we discuss the power of stepping away from distractions to find clarity. We also explore the idea of building a true community, where meaningful connections replace surface-level interactions. This episode is about embracing life’s challenges, appreciating the people around us, and staying true to the journey, even when it feels overwhelming.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we sit down with musician Brandon Purdy to dive into the healing power of music, creativity, and spirituality. Brandon shares how loss and personal struggles reshaped his artistic journey, transitioning from making “hollow” music to creating songs with real meaning. We explore the importance of reconnecting with childhood passions, the influence of legends like Prince and Michael Jackson, and the creative battles with comparison and perfectionism.Brandon opens up about meditation, journaling, and the impact of Rick Rubin’s "The Creative Act" in keeping his creativity centered. We discuss how psychedelics, breathwork, and spirituality have helped us process grief and trauma, as well as the role of forgiveness and gratitude in moving forward. This conversation is a raw, unfiltered look at the journey of self-expression, healing, and the realization that as long as you’re still in the game, you’re winning.Listen to Brandon's newest single "Keep Going" here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAdIQEHUHsInstagram & TikTok:https://www.instagram.com/itsbrandonpurdy/https://www.tiktok.com/@itsbrandonpurdy0:00 This weeks guest, musician Brandon Purdy3:00 dealing with loss through the expression of music5:00 Transitioning from making “hollow” music to meaningful expression through a creative rebrand6:30 what sparked the newfound authenticity and being able to share your music with everybody of all ages9:00 reconnecting with the things you loved as a child, for Brandon it was dancing12:30 You don’t know how many people you’re helping without even knowing it15:00 Being inspired by the greats like Prince and Michael Jackson and learning new skills and instruments 17:00 Wrestling with creativity when comparison and perfectionism creeps in22:00 Journaling and reading “the creative act” by Rick Rubin to keep your creativity centered26:00 the power of putting pen to paper and getting your thoughts out in the open30:00 the spiritual process of finding your flow35:00 Making a connection with spirituality39:00 the importance of meditation and noticing your own thoughts41:30 the shit I was doing, I shouldn’t be alive, but somehow, I’m here43:20 nobody knows shit, we’re all just trying to figure all of this out45:00 Dealing with loss as the world keeps going48:00 the power of psychedelics and dealing with your past with intention 55:00 Dealing with guilt around loss and giving yourself forgiveness for the past that can’t be changed1:01:45 nothing bad is going to come from being honest1:04:00 unleashing the power of your mind and body in breath work and the wim hof method1:08:00 Getting out of your own head and into your body so you can release trauma1:12:00 forming gratitude around the small things Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we welcome Licensed Master Social Worker Nina Lugo, a passionate social worker making a difference in the lives of students, parents, and educators. Nina opens up about the realities of social work, shedding light on the often-overlooked emotional toll that comes with helping others navigate life's challenges.We explore how social work extends beyond just students—supporting parents and coworkers is just as important. Nina shares how she approaches tough conversations, from guiding parents through difficult truths about their children to breaking the stigma around mental illness and helping kids develop healthy coping mechanisms.We also dive into the state of the education system, the lack of essential life skills being taught in schools, and the pressing need for more mental health resources and role models for young men. Nina emphasizes how anxiety and fear are normal emotions that shouldn’t be demonized and how reframing conversations around mental health can help dismantle outdated stereotypes—especially regarding men and emotional expression.Throughout this conversation, Nina offers incredible insight into self-care as a social worker, the struggles of keeping work stress from creeping into personal life, and the importance of being in this field for the outcome, not the income.This is a raw, honest discussion about mental health, resilience, and the people working behind the scenes to create lasting change.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This episode is a big one. An important one. Our most personal one yet.We told you we were gonna cry today—and for good reason. Steve is having a baby, and we dive deep into the whirlwind of emotions that come with it. Excitement, nerves, and the realization that life is about to change forever. We talk about giving up vices when major life shifts happen, the risks and rewards of big decisions, and the responsibility of breaking family patterns when bringing a new life into the world.Plus, a little debate on what the baby is gonna call Uncle JP, and why Knocked Up just became required viewing.This one’s real, raw, and straight from the heart. Tune in. 💙0:30 I told you we were gonna cry today2:00 Steve is having a baby5:40 Excitement and nerves go hand in hand in these moments12:00 Giving up your vices when life changing events come along17:00 Risks always have rewards in these situations18:50 Live Podcast from the Delivery room?22:00 How are you excited to prepare for this baby on the way?25:30 Breaking the patterns of yourself and your family when bringing a new life into the world30:00 Wondering what the baby is gonna call Uncle JP40:00 Now we gotta watch “Knocked Up” before the baby comesJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we dive into the environments that fuel our best work, the luxury of staying ahead, and the mindset shifts that help us keep going. We reflect on learning to trust ourselves, overcoming perfectionism (“Perfectionism is better spelled paralysis” – Winston Churchill), and embracing where we are while recognizing how far we've come. From Kobe Bryant’s lessons in discipline to the importance of taking risks in life, career, and money, this conversation is all about persistence, self-belief, and the power of consistency. Plus, we ask: what if we were 52 weeks ahead on the podcast? Tune in for an inspiring, thought-provoking episode!1:00 What environment do you do your best work in?4:30 the luxury of being ahead on the podcast6:00 How’s your heart? & learning to trust yourself10:00 the power that comes from not giving up14:00 “Perfectionism is better spelled paralysis” -Winston Churchill 16:30 this podcast is just two guys doing a Rick Rubin impression19:00 The excitement of having things to look forward to20:15 Embrace where you’re and recognize how far you’ve come22:00 The power of seeing our consistency pay off26:44 Learning a lesson from Kobe Bryant and the 2008 USA basketball team28:55 Life is all about taking risks, in money, in your career, in your personal life31:00 what would it be like to be 52 weeks ahead on the podcastJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In part two of our conversation with Rayvin Rey, we explore powerful insights on overcoming scarcity mindsets and embracing patience in personal growth. Rayvin shares her thoughts on finding alignment outside of relationships, balancing happiness with financial success, and breaking free from childhood beliefs about money. We discuss how physical activity can help manage stress, the importance of authentic self-expression, and the value of building a supportive community. Rayvin opens up about self-love, giving yourself the care you often seek from others, and nurturing meaningful relationships through attention, space, and listening. She also shares lessons from “The Alchemist” and her take on staying true to yourself, all while reflecting on the deeper meaning of love and how being your own soulmate is the foundation for everything. This episode is packed with wisdom, inspiration, and heartfelt moments you won’t want to miss!Support Rayvin on her website: https://rayvinrey.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rayvin_rey/Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/@rayvinrey24And support her podcast "The Self Love Sanctuary" here: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TxW0FumW1ZkNFdsItSGwZor hereTimestamps:00:45 Changing the view around your 9 to 5 job and fulfilling your passions3:30 Getting in alignment with yourself outside of a relationship4:30 What’s more important? Happy relationships or making money?6:00 Focusing on lack and losing the “must be nice” mentality8:00 Fighting back against the money and scarcity beliefs that you grew up around13:00 The struggle of striving to make something you love doing profitable14:00 Regulating your attention span in a world of quick gratification16:15 Patience with yourself and how it applies to personal growth19:45 Using physical activity to handle mental stress25:00 Sharing authentically while trying to improve, learn, and grow a community27:30 "You don’t want 50 million fans. You want 5,000 people who care."29:20 Lessons from Russ, Mike, and "The Alchemist" on being true to yourself35:50 Conquering hard things is in the little things40:00 Shameless plug for Whoop45:30 Nighttime wind-down routine with stream-of-consciousness journaling48:00 Giving yourself the love you desire so badly from others in relationships51:30 The expression of love by listening to your partner’s podcast (if they have one)55:30 True love is giving your partner the space they need59:00 Conquering the shame of hurting someone the way you were hurt1:02:00 The power of showing your partner attention1:10:00 Should we call this episode “How to Find Your Soulmate?”1:14:00 Your soulmate is yourself1:15:00 Rayvin’s councilJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

"Rayvin Rey on Overcoming Shame, Cultivating Self-Love, & Finding Your Authenticity" EP050 (Pt. 1)In this episode, we sit down with our longtime friend and inspiring guest, Rayvin Rey, to explore the transformative power of unlearning, self-love, and personal growth. Rayvin shares her journey of shifting her baseline from negativity to positivity, using daily meditation practices like mirror meditations, and breaking free from the shackles of perfectionism.We dive into the importance of self-awareness in relationships—when to stop trying to change others and how character defines what we value most. Rayvin also opens up about rebuilding tough family relationships, handling shame, and navigating the ever-changing nature of life.From tackling negative self-talk to finding authenticity and inspiring others to do the same, this episode is packed with heartfelt wisdom, practical advice, and powerful reflections. Whether you’re struggling with perfectionism, relationships, or self-doubt, Rayvin’s perspective will resonate deeply and inspire you to embrace yourself fully.Tune in to hear about self-compassion, navigating shame’s impact on our view of money, and so much more! Don’t miss this uplifting and thought-provoking conversation.Support Rayvin on her website: https://rayvinrey.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rayvin_rey/And support her podcast "The Self Love Sanctuary" here: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TxW0FumW1ZkNFdsItSGwZ2:50 – What was it like being friends with Steve and JP many years ago?8:00 – Who is Rayvin Rey, and what is her path?11:15 – The power of unlearning as you get older.12:00 – Transforming your baseline from negative to positive.16:00 – Cultivating awareness to catch yourself in the moment.17:30 – Exploring mirror meditations and using meditation daily.19:00 – Avoiding staleness by switching up your routine.21:00 – Practicing self-love and accepting yourself for who you really are.24:00 – Knowing that you are enough as you are.25:00 – Tapping into your authenticity to inspire others.30:00 – Recognizing self-awareness in your relationships and knowing when to stop trying to change others.35:35 – How character shapes what you value in a relationship.36:40 – Rebuilding tough relationships with your family.39:00 – Avoiding stonewalling the people closest to you.41:00 – Embracing change as the only constant in life.52:00 – Dealing with rumination and practicing self-compassion.54:30 – Handling negative self-talk with kindness and care.57:00 – The daunting nature of perfectionism in all areas of life.57:45 – “If I stop putting stuff out right now, people will only see the beginning.”1:04:50 – Coming to terms with how you view shame.1:19:00 – How shame changes our perspective on money.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

This week, we’re thrilled to bring you a very special episode, recorded live from the dojo with our longtime friend and karate master, Joe Fry! Joe is not only the owner of a thriving karate studio and a 5th degree black belt, but also a dedicated mentor, parent, and entrepreneur. In this episode, he shares his incredible journey of resilience, self-discovery, and teaching life lessons through martial arts.We dive deep into Joe’s story, starting with his childhood experiences of bullying and how they inspired him to embrace karate as a path to confidence and strength. He shares his philosophy of getting "1% better every day" and how martial arts has shaped his approach to life, parenting, and business. Whether it's battling imposter syndrome or staying accountable, Joe’s insights are powerful and relatable.The Impact of Teaching on Parenting: How working with students influenced Joe’s approach as a father.Overcoming Obstacles: The mental and physical discipline needed to own a business and navigate life's challenges.Building Confidence Through Karate: How martial arts empowers students to develop self-assurance and resilience.Battling Self-Doubt: Confronting imposter syndrome, perfectionism, and self-doubt while staying accountable.Physical and Mental Well-Being: Balancing fitness, mindfulness, and rest to avoid burnout and improve mental health.Finding Meaning in Spirituality and Nature: How staying present and embracing curiosity can lead to personal growth.Deep Questions About Life: Joe asks us thought-provoking questions like, “Would your 10-year-old self be proud of you?”Joe’s honest reflections about running a business, navigating fatherhood, and striving for personal growth will leave you inspired to take on your own challenges with confidence and clarity. Plus, he shares advice on how to avoid staleness in your physical activities, why good sleep and nutrition matter, and how spirituality connects us to something bigger.Visit the Fry's Karate on the web @ https://www.frykarate.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/frykarate_/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hvmdk/1:40 - Live from the dojo with Joe Fry5:00 - Teaching shaping parenting7:00 - Partnering with your spouse9:25 - Childhood bullying11:00 - Pushing your body young12:30 - 1% better daily14:00 - Challenges of owning a business15:56 - Overcoming obstacles17:15 - Separating work and family18:15 - Finding yourself in the pandemic20:26 - Karate and confidence23:11 - Inspiring student growth26:15 - Imposter syndrome and self-doubt28:00 - Staying accountable29:25 - Living in the present31:00 - Physical health for mental well-being33:50 - Aging and injuries35:27 - Avoiding staleness37:45 - Sleep and nutrition39:30 - Masculinity and sensitivity44:00 - Providing beyond finances47:30 - Spirituality in nature52:30 - Keep learning and exploring54:37 - Joey’s questions59:45 - Would 10-year-old you be proud?1:02:15 - Sparking change1:11:50 - Joey’s advisors1:15:30 - Be kind and embrace lifeJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

It’s a New Year, and we’re starting 2025 by looking back at everything we learned in 2024. We talk about how one of us made the life-changing decision to get sober, and how that single choice improved not only our personal lives but the direction and consistency of this podcast. We also reflect on the massive growth we’ve seen since taking the podcast seriously  in August—more views, more watch time, and way more subscribers.As for 2025? We’ve got big goals. We’re saying goodbye to bad habits (yes, we’re giving up the weed), doubling down on self-discipline, and focusing on showing up for ourselves and our audience in bigger, better ways. We dive into how we plan to tackle personal growth, like being more present, overcoming people-pleasing tendencies, and leaning into authenticity—even when it’s uncomfortable.We also talk about getting deeper spiritually, with one of us committing to explore their relationship with God and purpose by diving into philosophical and religious texts. On the professional side, we’re excited to improve the podcast even more by bringing in new guests, engaging with our listeners, and staying consistent in everything we do.This episode is full of real talk—about the challenges of staying grounded, learning from failure, and balancing life while chasing your dreams. It’s an honest look at where we’ve been, where we’re headed, and how we plan to make 2025 a year of transformation. Tune in, and let’s take this journey together!00:10 - Time Jump in Our Podcast Schedule!01:00 - Yearly Recap: Reflecting on Our Podcast JourneyPersonal Growth & Achievements01:31 - Podcast Growth Since August 2024: Our Numbers!03:09 - Consistency & Dedication: The Secret to Success03:40 - How Sobriety Changed Our Personal & Professional Lives04:44 - Sober Life Reflections: More Than Just a Change in Routine05:59 - Sobriety Struggles: The Ups and DownsChallenges & Reflections10:00 - Action vs. Overthinking: Lessons Learned11:30 - Embracing Not Knowing Everything12:22 - Spending Time Alone to Grow & Reflect14:27 - Focusing on Trust & Intuition18:15 - Take Action Now: Don’t Wait for the Perfect Moment20:00 - How Physical Exercise Boosts Mental Health25:01 - Wishing We’d Focused More on the Podcast SoonerGoals & Intentions for 202531:00 - Asking for Help & Managing Emotions Better35:00 - Staying Present: The Power of Focus40:00 - Quitting Bad Habits (Like Weed) for a Healthier Life50:00 - Breaking Free From Vices: The Struggle to Stay StrongPhilosophical & Spiritual Exploration01:22:41 - Exploring My Relationship with God & Spirituality01:24:05 - Trusting the Universe: A Spiritual Discussion01:27:00 - Diving Into Religious & Philosophical Texts for Deeper InsightPodcast Improvements & Audience Engagement01:35:30 - Big Thanks to Our Audience: Your Support Means the World!01:36:01 - Huge Plans for the Podcast in 2025—Guests, Growth & More!Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

"Grounding into Gratitude & Dealing with Your Displaced Anger | Episode #048This week, we’re digging into the big stuff—like how to handle displaced anger, break free from people-pleasing, and challenge outdated stereotypes about masculinity. We explore how mindfulness and gratitude can help you stay grounded, even when life throws you a curveball. Plus, we dive into how noticing your irritability and physically grounding yourself can shift your mindset in powerful ways.On the practical side, we share tips for eliminating brain fog in the morning, celebrating the growth of others, and learning how to stop caring what people think about your lifestyle choices. And, as always, we sprinkle in some chaos: Steve gets fired up about perseverance, JP confesses his undying love for Kendrick Lamar’s "GNX," and we brainstorm whether advertising on a Macy’s Day Parade float could be the ultimate power move.Life’s unpredictable, so why not celebrate the wins, rethink what’s possible, and laugh along the way? Tune in for honest reflections, actionable advice, and a few ridiculous ideas that might just inspire you.00:18 Guests are coming3:25 Bringing our audience unique and interesting perspectives9:45 Awareness around how you treat strangers when you aren’t feeling your best11:40 Dealing w/ Displaced Anger13:15 Society stereotypes about masculinity15:45 Disciplined mindfulness18:00 Running in the Rain20:15 Being your own support system22:00 People pleasing26:30 Rejoicing in the growth of others29:30 Not caring what people think about your lifestyle choices31:25 Noticing your irritability35:15 Nothing is guaranteed in this life38:30 Physically Grounding yourself in gratitude43:00 Come back to this video on episode 4,00046:55 “I want the Whoop AI to be my friend”47:30 Steve loves the idea of perseverance 48:55 JP is very grateful for Kendrick Lamar’s “GNX”53:00 Eliminating Brain fog in the morning 58:00 Should we advertise on a Macy’s Day Parade Float??Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

“The Power of Consistency, Mastering Your Brain States, Wisdom from Matthew McConaughey | EP 047We’re back, and we’re leveling up. In this episode, we recap Will McGuire’s last visit, hype up our plans to bring on new, fascinating guests, and celebrate sticking with this podcast journey. Spoiler alert: we’re kind of proud of ourselves.We dive into the life hacks that are changing our game: yoga for better sleep, avoiding your phone in the morning, and hypnotizing yourself into becoming the best version of you.Along the way, we tackle some hard truths: stop half-assing things (shoutout #MatthewMcConaughey), control the controllable (thanks, John Cena), and admit that scrolling on social media might be ruining your brain (yikes). But hey, Deepak Chopra says you do have enough time to meditate, so there’s hope.As always, we sprinkle in some ridiculous tangents—color TV is the root of all evil, #veganrecipes  are everywhere on our Instagram feed, and apparently Tom Glavine is the number 47 GOAT. Plus, every time you watch our #podcast , you’re helping us feed our dogs. What’s not to love?2:00 Recap of Will’s previous episode, More guests are coming6:00 Expanding our podcast8:20 Proving to ourselves that we could stick with the podcast consistently9:15 We’re looking for new and interesting guests12:10 Wanted Ad: Looking for Good Person14:50 “You can’t shoot for the moon when you don’t even work at nasa yet” 20:00 Taking stock of the progress we’ve made so far23:00 Incorporating yoga to improve your sleep cycle and circadian rhythm24:40 Avoiding being on your #smartphone right away in the morning hours26:30 Beta and alpha brain states and hypnotizing yourself to be the best version 29:20 the importance of keeping your body in peak condition 29:45 Our podcast instagram news feed is just #veganrecipes31:00 Discussing how proud we are of our whoop scores32:35 Giving up wrestling for yoga? No fucking way33:50 Little habits make big gains34:50 Your future self will thank you for putting in the work 35:22 stop half assing things and don’t bullshit yourself- Matthew McConaughey 36:50 Color TV is the root of all evil 37:55 the science behind scrolling on socials and comparing yourself to others 38:55 becoming aware of the fact that many of our problems have ourselves at the root #selfreflection39:10 Deepak Chopra says you do have enough time to meditate41:29 Consuming our podcast mindfully is better for you than mindlessly scrolling on TikTok43:00 Nothing like a spirited conversation to get the podcast going43:10 What could happen or change in your life if you cut your screen time down45:00 Watch our podcast so we can feed our dogs46:35 “Control the controllable” - John Cena47:00 Tom Glavine is indeed number 47, Troy Percival is not47:35 Shoutout to angels in the outfield and #MatthewMcConaugheyJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

We do apologize for the poor sound quality in this episode, we had some audio issues throughout this episode, but we're still in good spirits because our good friend of the pod and honorary member of the Who Thought We’d Be Here? family, Will McGuire, stops by to drop knowledge, crack jokes, and remind us why he’s one of our favorite people. Will walks us through his journey of buying Joker Ink, taking risks, and always knowing he was destined to work for himself.We tackle some big questions: Is college worth it, or does real-world hustle win? What’s “house hacking,” and can people in their 30s actually own homes, or is that a myth like Bigfoot? Oh, and pro tip: Get your credit right if you want those sweet investing opportunities.But it’s not all business—Will gets real about life as a husband, dad of two, and certified “girl dad,” sharing how parenting has made him more patient, reflective, and more intentional in showing up for his family. We also dig into mental health, the importance of giving yourself grace, and building an imaginary council of advisors in your head, inspired by Think and Grow Rich. Spoiler alert: Will’s head council definitely includes Dumbledore.Speaking of Harry Potter, don’t miss Steve and Will’s nerd-out session over the wizarding world. Oh, and if you haven’t heard of this groundbreaking new tool called Google, Will has got you covered.This episode is packed with laughs, insights, and heartfelt moments you don’t want to miss. Will McGuire: businessman, dad, and now, podcast legend.Check out Joker Ink here https://www.jokerink.com/and herehttps://www.instagram.com/jokerink_ny/Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this reflective and candid episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, we tackle resistance, overthinking, and finding balance in life and creativity. Recorded the day after the election, we start with a discussion on seasonal warmth in New York and dive into the struggles and lessons of the week.Steve opens up about his rough week and the importance of enjoying your own company. We explore the mental and physical release that comes from running and how pushing yourself during the day can lead to better rest at night. Reflecting on the Tao Te Ching and embracing life’s paradoxes, we share insights on staying present through deep breathing and managing emotions in the moment.The conversation turns to creative challenges, from dealing with resistance while recording the podcast to overcoming perfectionism and imposter syndrome in your work. We emphasize the importance of giving yourself the space to grow in your passion and resisting the pressure to make every episode a cinematic masterpiece.We also share inspiration from Alan Watts and Jay Shetty, discuss the dream of bringing Steven Pressfield on the show, and talk about facing fear head-on while staying true to your authentic vision.This episode reminds us that every journey starts somewhere, and it’s okay to solve creative blocks as they come. Whether you're struggling with overthinking, perfectionism, or self-doubt, we’re right there with you.2:00 Warm in November in NY4:09 I feel the resistance6:00 Steve had a rough week6:53 Enjoying being alone with yourself8:10 Waking up in the morning feeling like I am going to prevail 9:22 The physical and mental release that comes along with running11:20 Do you sleep better at night knowing that you pushed yourself today?12:30 Recapping the Tao De Ching 13:37 Being ok with everything in life being a paradox16:15 The past is nothing more than something that exists in your mind #AlanWatts17:00 Using deep breathing to embrace your current state of emotions18:45 Dealing with resistance and overthinking while recording this podcast episode20:25 this is only the beginning of this podcast, we shouldn’t be applying pressure to ourselves22:00 Jay Shetty “taking 90 seconds to pause can save your life”23:00 We gotta get Steven Pressfield on this podcast26:00 Giving yourself the space to learn and grow in your field of passion28:05 The struggles of perfectionism in your creative work32:25 The struggle of imposter syndrome when being compensated for your skills 33:30 This episode should be called “Solving blocks on the spot”34:05 Being super sensitive to the energy around you 40:00 Stop trying to be somebody else vs following your own authentic vision 43:00 Every episode can’t be a cinematic and emotional masterpiece#WhoThoughtWedBeHere #PodcastLife #CreativeBlocks #Overthinking #ImposterSyndrome #AlanWatts #JayShetty #StevenPressfield  #RunningMotivation #CreativeJourney #FaceYourFears #BeAuthentic #PodcastCommunity #MotivationalPodcast #BehindTheScenes #TrendingNowJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this special Thanksgiving episode of Who Thought We’d Be Here?, we’re here to keep you company on the way to your family gathering or maybe on that walk before dinner with your favorite cousin. The focus today is all about gratitude, self-reflection, and enjoying the season.We kick things off with a reminder to embrace the moment and focus on what you’re blessed with rather than what’s lacking. If you’re dreading family questions like “Are you still single?”—don’t worry, we’ve got you covered with some lighthearted advice and gratitude-centered perspectives.The conversation touches on what we’re grateful for this year, including personal growth, family support, and even the podcast itself. We encourage you to reflect on where you see yourself by next Thanksgiving and think about how to set yourself up for success in the coming year.There’s also a shoutout to #RamDass and a heartfelt moment about being grateful for yourself—because sometimes, that’s the most important form of gratitude.Of course, no Thanksgiving episode is complete without food talk. We debate the merits of turkey versus side dishes, discuss the mystery of Mississippi pot roast, and even throw pineapple and ham steak into the mix. Don’t forget to comment with your favorite Thanksgiving dish!We wrap things up with a blooper reel where things get a little out of hand, and a reminder to support Who Thought We’d Be Here? by subscribing, following, and sharing with friends.Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving—don’t forget, it’s all about gratitude!Timestamps0:35 Listen to this on the way to hang out with your family1:10 Be happy to be here1:35 Don’t focus on the lack, focus on what you are blessed with1:55 This episode is for you if you are dreading your aunt asking you if you’re still single 2:25 What are you grateful for this year (Steve)3:53 Bring gratitude to your thanksgiving gathering this year4:15 Reflecting on where you see yourself on #thanksgiving next year 5:00 How do I want to set myself up for success ?6:05 JP shares what he’s grateful for this year7:10 Sometimes you have to be grateful for yourself7:35 Shoutout to #RamDass8:00 Being grateful for the podcast and the people who support us9:00 Try to be your best self as much as possible, whatever that looks like for you9:50 Support us by subscribing and following as well as downloads, comments, sharing this with a friend10:15 Pineapple & Ham Steak?11:00 Happy Thanksgiving and turkey is overrated, it’s all about the side dishes12:30 What in the lords name is a Mississippi pot roast?13:15 Comment your favorite thanksgiving dish?14:00 BLOOPER REEL#WhoThoughtWedBeHere #PodcastBlooperReel #ThanksgivingPodcast #BehindTheScenes #PodcastLife #EpicFails #ThanksgivingLaughs #BloopersAndBlunders #LaughterIsTheBestMedicine #KeepItReal #PodcastHumor #trendingnow Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this reflective and empowering episode, we dive deep into the subtle yet loud voice of self-doubt and how it impacts your relationships, mindset, and growth. Starting in our brand-new recording space, we explore the art of creating hope for the future and the wisdom behind Lao Tzu’s Tao Te Ching (Ep. 9). Along the way, we uncover insights about recognizing coincidences (shoutout to Dr. Joe Dispenza), embracing gratitude—even at Thanksgiving dinners—and reading signs from the universe.Key takeaways include:How to spot and shift negative self-talk, whether in your daily routines or during workouts.Why meaningful relationships are essential and how to evaluate friendships with honesty and love.The importance of releasing unhealthy dynamics and supporting others' creative ventures.A timely reminder: You can’t take on new opportunities while clinging to the past.And yes, we’ll discuss why ruling a country might actually be like cooking a small fish. 🐟From tackling self-doubt to navigating personal growth with grace, this episode is packed with relatable moments, ancient parables, and actionable advice to help you take things less personally and live with more intention. Plus, Lola sneezes (adorably), and we solve the mystery of whether house phones still exist!0:40 New recording space3:50 Creating hope for future episodes4:40 Book club LIVE!6:45 Verse 9 “Tao Te Ching” by Lao Tzu7:45 Noticing coincidences - Dr. Joe Dispenza8:50 Thanksgiving / Be grateful for your family / Don’t yell at your uncle 10:00 Signs from The Universe11:46 Learning to not be hard on yourself 13:20 Seeing progress keeps us going14:00 Negative Self Talk while running and working out16:10 This too shall pass18:50 That old bitch known as Self Doubt”20:20 Did you have an entirely bad day or a rough 10 minutes?21:57 Noticing negative self talk in the moment23:30 Resistance is loudest when you are following your passion25:30 The importance of meaningful relationships and connections27:15 The difficulty of honestly analyzing the relationships and friendships in your life29:07 Addiction plays a part in unhealthy dynamics with people in your life30:23 There’s no hard feelings in growing apart32:00 Having hard conversations is part of the deal on this podcast33:14 Making your circle smaller can be the best thing for you35:15 Discovering the driving forces in your life36:12 You’re lying to yourself about prioritizing your time38:23 “You have to release people with love”41:06 The importance of supporting your friends in their creative ventures42:01 Lola sneezes #adorable42:35 You can’t take on new and exciting opportunities while still clinging to the past43:10 House phones still exist?!? No way44:00 Solving the puzzle of what does and does not belong in your life45:10 How to respond and evolve by not taking things personally Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

In this episode, we dive deep into the journey of self-awareness, personal growth, and creative evolution, exploring themes that resonate with anyone navigating change or creative pursuits.We kick off by defining what this podcast truly represents and drawing inspiration from the likes of Rich Roll and other influential voices. Conversations center around embracing awareness and taking the necessary steps toward change, reflecting on JP’s “dharma,” and exploring abundance with a nod to Deepak Chopra.We challenge black-and-white thinking, tackle self-doubt, and discuss the importance of doing video content for the right reasons. The episode also touches on protocols for personal discipline, cringing at past work while owning growth, and staying grounded by comparing our journeys to no one else's.Humor lightens the episode with a bee-in-the-face moment and Jerry Seinfeld-esque callbacks. At the same time, we delve into deeper truths—why morals guide what we really want, the ongoing sacrifices in personal evolution, and how the universe often points us in the right direction when we start small.We explore the impact of consuming purposeful content, staying off our phones, and fostering non-alcohol-centric social experiences. JP shares a vulnerable moment of messing up, but it’s met with levity, reflection, and a commitment to growth.The episode wraps with shameless affiliate plugs, talk of a “Whoop” group, and a teaser for Will’s upcoming episode.Whether you’re here for the laughs, the life lessons, or both, this episode delivers a thoughtful and entertaining mix of insight and inspiration.0:33 episode 432:30 uncut episodes3:20 defining the podcast4:00 rich roll4:40 episode 6735:20 awareness, taking steps6:20 JPs dharma7:00 abundance deep ask chopra8:00 doing video for the right reasons9:15 black and white thinking10:30 comparing your journey 11:55 rewiring self doubt12:15 bee in jps face13:00 protocols with yourself13:55 cringing at our past work15:00 what I actually want to do / morals16:30 there’s always something more to give up17:10 pedaling poison18:30 the universe will show you what you’re supposed to be doing19:10 start w the small stuff19:40 i like being the belle of the ball20:25 creating a social exp that doesn’t revolve on alcohol20:50 Jerry Seinfeld from bee movie is back21:30 dealing w comparison23:11 consuming purposeful content23:25 getting off your phone27:39 break27:50 JP fucked up29:12 we’ll fix it in post30:05 the old me would’ve lost my shit31:30 we’re definitely recording31:50 I don’t wanna be mad all the time anymore 32:30 cultivating awareness 33:20 comment it’s ok that JP fucked up33:40 shameless plugging of affiliates34:40 whoop group35:00 preview of wills episodeJoin our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

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We're 40 episodes into this "podcast" thing and we feel like we're just getting started. Thanks to anyone listening, whether you've been with us since day one or you're new to the "Who Thought We'd Be Here? bandwagon, we appreciate each and every one of you.In this episode, Steve and JP chat about how to create the life you want to manifest with affirmations, and how much of a difference maker it can be to set future goals for yourself.  They discuss what it takes to maintain consistency in putting out content and podcasts, and how the creation of this podcast has changed their productivity and what it means to have a traditional job. JP gifts Steve with "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield, a book about pushing through creative blocks and fighting back against resistance in all facets of your professional and personal life. They also take a look at how far the podcast production has come in the last year, and what goals they would like to accomplish throughout the winter and into the renewal of next spring. Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

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This episode is brought to you by: the fact that we want to keep podcasting and love doing this shit. Steve & JP (and Eleanor) are back again with a little bit shorter than usual episode on this crisp, autumn day.  The fellas return to the roots of the podcast by bringing back their book exchange, with Steve gifting JP "The Book of Secrets" by Deepak Chopra, all about unlocking the hidden dimensions of your life and the deep personal potential of yourself.  Steve touches on his reading habits and his love for the literature of Wayne Dyer. We're going to keep this tradition alive every couple of episodes, stay tuned for more recommendations, reviews, and let us know if you have recs of your own!They also get real about their views on religion, and how no belief system is perfect but that each one has it's own unique lessons to be learned from. JP even tells his favorite story from the Bible, "The Prodigal Son" with a different twist on how to be kind to both others and yourself.This is our 12th week in a row of releasing a new episode of "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" and we are really proud of the consistency and dedication that we have been putting into these episodes.  We couldn't do this without the people who listen every single week, and we'd love to hear from those who appreciate the content that we are putting out.  Thank you from the bottom of our hearts, and let us know what we can do in the comments to help you build a better self with our platform.Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotionshttps://app.grouped.com/whothoughtwedbeherepodJoin Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.Get 20% off your first month with our podcast's link:Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK  https://www.jokerink.com/NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh. https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepodPlease Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!