Guilty by Association: The Vantaca Podcast

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Guilty by Association: The Vantaca Podcast

Guilty By Association is the podcast where community management meets the bigger conversation. Hosted by Maegan Woytek and the Vantaca team, Guilty by Association features leaders from inside and outside the CAM industry exploring how automation, service design, and operational excellence are transforming the way management companies operate. Plus our biweekly News You Need to Know segment covering the stories shaping the profession right now.

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    HOA News You Need To Know: Week of 5/1/26

    Vantaca and Maegan Woytek are proud to present this week's news you need to know happening across the industry! We plan to bring you all the critical news, regulatory shifts, market shifts and operational insights that are impacting your business every week, so you can stay ahead of it.What you need to know for this week's episode:New homeowners are now spending 26% of their income on housing—far more than the 20% paid by long-time owners—the biggest gap in decades. The housing market isn’t just expensive, it’s structurally favoring incumbents, meaning today’s buyers are starting their ownership journey already financially behind.Major metros in Florida and Texas have shifted to buyer’s markets due to rising costs, while cities in Ohio are seeing steady growth and increasing demand The long-assumed migration to the Sunbelt may be hitting a financial breaking point, signaling a potential rebalancing of where Americans actually want and can afford to live.Buyers in HOA communities should closely review reserves, budgets, and assessment history to avoid costly surprises. In today’s market, the financial health of an HOA isn’t just a detail, it can be the difference between a stable investment and a hidden financial time bomb.Subscribe to Guilty by Association for ongoing industry updates and more conversations from Vantaca.

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    HOA News You Need To Know: Week of 4/17/26

    Vantaca and Maegan Woytek are proud to present this week's news you need to know happening across the industry! We plan to bring you all the critical news, regulatory shifts, market shifts and operational insights that are impacting your business every week, so you can stay ahead of it.What you need to know for this week's episode:Condo and HOA fees are rising sharply (26% since 2019), driven by insurance, labor, and materials, putting growing pressure on boards and making transparent communication essential for management companies.A major fraud case in Florida, where a bookkeeper allegedly stole HOA funds for personal use.Georgia’s SB 406 is advancing with bipartisan support, introducing stricter rules on fines, liens, and financial transparency.Subscribe to Guilty by Association for ongoing industry updates and more conversations from Vantaca.

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    Viral HOA Content and What 220 Million Views Revealed About Community Management | Adam Fitch of The HOA.i

    Adam Fitch built one of the most-watched HOA content brands on the internet — 220 million views, 200,000 followers, and an audience made up of the exact residents and property professionals that community managers serve every day.In this episode, Maegan Woytek sits down with the creator of The HOA.i to talk about why HOA frustration travels so far online, what residents are actually reacting to, and whether transparency and better technology could change the story entirely. If you work in community association management, this is the outside perspective your industry needs to hear.Chapter Breakdown:00:00 - Intro and Background on Adam01:36 - HOA Content and How it Resonates03:22 - Swallows in Adam's HOA?04:54 - Homeowners and Boards Unite07:11 - Response Across Platforms08:56 - Wanting to Feel Heard in your HOA10:57 - What Do You Hope Your Audience Takes From This?Follow Mr. Fitch and The HOA.i:Instagram: @thehoa.iTikTok: @thehoa.iFacebook: The HOA.i

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    HOA News You Need To Know: Week of 4/3/26

    Vantaca and Maegan Woytek are proud to present this week's news you need to know happening across the industry! We plan to bring you all the critical news, regulatory shifts, market shifts and operational insights that are impacting your business every week, so you can stay ahead of it.What you need to know for this week's episode:Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac update: New Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac rules ease some insurance requirements but raise the minimum reserve funding to 15% by 2027—making early planning critical to preserve conventional financing eligibility and protect community property values.Georgia SB 406: Georgia Senate Bill 406 would sharply restrict associations’ ability to collect assessments and enforce liens and foreclosures, posing serious financial risk to communities if it becomes law.ACAM CEO Mindshare Retreat: Management company CEOs can register now for the ACAM CEO Mindshare Retreat, July 22–24 at the Ritz‑Carlton Chicago, with early‑bird pricing available through April 30: https://www.acam-ceo.org/retreat.html

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    HOA News You Need To Know: Week of 3/20/26

    Vantaca and Maegan Woytek are proud to present this week's news you need to know happening across the industry! We plan to bring you all the critical news, regulatory shifts, market shifts and operational insights that are impacting your business every week, so you can stay ahead of it.What you need to know for this week's episode:A new national survey reveals a surprising mix of strength and strain inside HOA boardrooms and the data points to what actually moves the needle on engagement.Fresh analysis shows HOA fees climbing across the country, with a few markets standing out in ways that could reshape the conversation around housing affordability.A major new report outlines a fast‑approaching future where AI handles the work before anyone even logs in.

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    HOA News You Need To Know: Week of 3/6/26

    Vantaca and Maegan Woytek are proud to present this week's news you need to know happening across the industry! We plan to bring you all the critical news, regulatory shifts, market shifts and operational insights that are impacting your business every week, so you can stay ahead of it.What you need to know for this week's episode:A bill moving fast through Indiana’s legislature. House Bill 1152 would prohibit HOAs, their agents, and management companies from charging any service fee not already written into the governing documents.New survey of 1,000 HOA homeowners. A new survey found that 64% say their HOA causes daily stress, and 37% regret buying into one altogether.Homeowner Tip: if you live in an HOA, you actually have more than one rulebook.--And if you missed it, we dropped a new podcast this week focused on the companies that are growing with intention from the ones just maintaining, and how to better market your business for future growth. You won't want to miss it!Full podcast for you: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-referral-ceiling-the-new-growth-playbook/id1628147312?i=1000753055919Or if you'd rather video: https://youtu.be/8odQFj86otw?si=GdxhMDi7-3YCYr2t

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    The Referral Ceiling: The New Growth Playbook for Community Management Leaders

    In this episode of Guilty by Association, host Maegan Woytek brings together two of the sharpest minds in the business — Vantaca CMO, Marina Devalia and Vantaca CRO, Will Cameron — to unpack why the old CAM business development playbook is hitting a ceiling and what growth-minded companies are doing differently.They dig into the shift from relationship-first to reputation-first selling, and why boards are now doing their due diligence through LLM optimization and forum searching before your first meeting ever happens. They also tackle what boards are actually buying when they choose a management company (hint: it's not just your software), why technology is a capacity tool that protects human relationships rather than replaces them, and how to turn service excellence into something you can put in a proposal.Whether you're leading a small shop trying to grow intentionally or a mid-market organization looking to stop leaving deals on the table, this episode gives you the framework to move from reactive to proactive.Time Stamp Breakdown:00:00 – 2:44 - Intro2:44 – 6:24 - The Evolving Pressure in CAM6:24 – 13:37 - Relationship vs Reputation13:37 – 18:28 - What Are Boards Really Looking For18:28 – 24:07 - Solving For A Capacity Problem24:07 – 27:23- Building Your Competitive Advantage27:23– 35:19 - Where and How You Can Start Today

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    HOA News You Need To Know: Week of 2/20/26

    Vantaca and Maegan Woytek are proud to present Guilty By Association's new segment that will deliver you the news you need to know happening across the industry! We plan to bring you all the critical news, regulatory shifts, market shifts and operational insights that are impacting your business every week, so you can stay ahead of it.What you need to know for this week's episode:---Georgia is going nuclear on HOA reform. Senate Bill 406 would double the foreclosure threshold to $4,000 and ban management companies from buying homes at foreclosure auctions. That's just one bill. Two others want to strip foreclosure power completely and let homeowners vote to dissolve their HOAs. This is the most aggressive reform push we've seen in any state.Insurance is eating everyone's lunch right now. Premiums are up 24% since 2021, and 82% of homeowners are bracing for another increase this year. This isn't just a homeowner problem. It's an HOA problem. Associations in Florida and other climate-risk states are seeing insurance costs become a bigger line item than maintenance. And with everyone expecting climate damage in the next three years, reserve planning just got a whole lot more complicated.And one more positive note: We're still growing. The Foundation for Community Association Research expects 4,000 new HOAs this year, bringing the total to 377,000 associations serving 80 million Americans.

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    The Next Renaissance: Why the Physical World Wins in the AI Era

    In the Season 3 premiere of Guilty by Association, host Ben Currin (CEO of Vantaca) sits down for a transformative conversation with Zack Kass, the former Head of Go-to-Market (GTM) at OpenAI.As the head of GTM during the launch of ChatGPT, who helped bridge the gap between OpenAI’s research and the global launch of ChatGPT, Zack provides a unique, techno-optimist perspective on the future of work and community. This episode explores the core thesis of Zack’s new book, The Next Renaissance (released Jan 13, 2026), and introduces the concept of "The Human Premium."In this episode, we dive deep into:The OpenAI Legacy: Inside the GTM strategy that brought AI to 100 million users and what it taught Zack about human nature.The "Human Premium" Theory: Why the commoditization of digital intelligence through LLMs makes physical-world connection the most valuable asset of the next decade.The End of Utility Software: How industries like community management are moving toward "Intelligent Ecosystems" that prioritize human leadership over administrative noise.A New Renaissance: Why Zack believes AI is the catalyst for a return to thriving local communities and meaningful human connection.Whether you are a tech leader, a community builder, or a professional navigating the shift from software to intelligence, this conversation provides the roadmap for thriving in the AI era.About Zack Kass: Zack Kass is a global AI futurist and strategic advisor to the Fortune 100. During his tenure at OpenAI, he led the Go-to-Market team, shaping the commercial trajectory of the most significant technological shift in history. His book, The Next Renaissance, is available now.

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    Lead Better, Live Better: Community Management Insights with Sarah Hudson

    Today on Guilty by Association, Kathleen sits down with Sarah Hudson (Director of Continuous Improvement at Inframark)—a self-described problem solver who has literally spent half her life in this industry. Sarah traces her path from temporary admin to PM lead to CI director, and shares how project management principles, tiny habits, and a renewed focus on wellness can transform the way we lead at work and live at home.They dig into building an onboarding program from scratch, why “progress over perfection” beats all-or-nothing health kicks, how to start with low-hanging-fruit habits (water, steps, smarter takeout), and the surprising ways sobriety and running unlocked long-term consistency. If your calendar is chaos and your energy is up-and-down, this one’s a blueprint.Key takeawaysCareers aren’t linear: saying “yes” to interesting problems can create a 20-year arc across ops, AR, software integrations, and leadership.Onboarding = a project: treat new-client onboarding like mini projects with clear lifecycle, owners, and checkpoints.Start small to stick big: audit one week of life, pick two low-effort wins (e.g., +water, −one takeout), and track for 3–4 weeks.Intentional steps > magic numbers: break movement into short walks you can actually do; consistency beats intensity.Protein helps adherence: prioritizing protein supports satiety and muscle maintenance while you improve other habits.Progress over perfection: miss a day? Reset tomorrow. The goal is autopilot foundations, not a 90-day sprint.Leadership lesson: empower people—and explicitly hand off ownership so they know it’s theirs to run.About SarahSarah Hudson is Director of Continuous Improvement at Inframark. A PMP-certified project leader, she partners across departments to streamline processes, elevate client value, and coach teams through change. Outside work, Sarah is an avid runner and wellness advocate.

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    Recruiting That Retains: How CAM Leaders Can Build Scalable, High-Performing Teams

    Host: Maegen Woytek, Director of Community Engagement at VantacaGuest: Adoni Kokkinos, CEO of Newell Property Management, Naples, FLEpisode Overview:In this episode of Guilty by Association, Maegen Woytek chats with Adoni Kokkinos, CEO of Newell Property Management, about one of the toughest challenges facing community management companies today: finding—and keeping—great people.Adoni shares how his team recruits new talent directly from universities across the country, and how they use location, culture, and career pathing to sell not just the job, but the lifestyle of community management. From training programs inspired by Disney to long-format interviews on the beach, this episode is packed with creative, actionable recruiting strategies.🔍 What You’ll Learn:Why community management has a recruiting problem—and how to fix itHow Newell uses Naples itself as a recruiting toolWhat “career pathing” really looks like for new gradsTips for turning community management into a lifestyle choiceHow structured onboarding (like Newell Academy) impacts performance and retentionWhat other firms can learn—no matter their locationWant to turn recruiting into a competitive advantage?Learn how Vantaca’s Community Management Performance Software supports hiring, onboarding, and retention.👉 Visit vantaca.com

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    Real Talk from the Front Lines of HOA Operations with Catie Marks

    In this episode of Guilty by Association, Maegan Woytek sits down with Catie Marks, President at May Management, to talk about the real-world side of running a high-performing HOA management team.With over a decade of experience in community management, Catie shares her journey from portfolio manager to president—and the lessons she’s learned along the way about building trust, optimizing workflows, and keeping people at the heart of every decision.🔍 What you’ll learn in this episode:How Catie structures processes to improve team performanceWhy communication, consistency, and documentation are make-or-breakThe power of listening before leading—and why small improvements add upHow Vantaca’s tasking and dashboards help eliminate chaosWhy leadership in CAM is about empathy just as much as efficiencyWhether you’re a community manager, team lead, or CAM executive, this conversation offers practical insights you can apply today.🔗 Want to learn how Vantaca supports operational excellenceVisit www.vantaca.com to explore workflows, automation, and performance tools that power scalable community management.🎧 Subscribe to Guilty by Association and leave us a review if you enjoyed the show!

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    Accelerating Performance in CAM: The Agentic AI Advantage

    In this episode of Guilty By Association, we sit down with Haoyu Zha, the founder of HOAi, to explore the inspiring origin story of how a frustrated HOA board member turned his pain points into purpose—and ultimately, innovation. From a hands-on journey managing communities to launching an AI-driven assistant designed to streamline operations, Hao reveals how HOAi went from a bold idea to a transformational technology now embedded within Vantaca. Learn how this next-gen AI agent is not just automating processes, but enabling management companies to shift from reactive task-handling to proactive, relationship-focused service delivery. We also dive into real-world success stories—from major gains in accounting department efficiency to smaller firms elevating homeowner response times—and discuss why now is the time to adopt AI before evolving expectations leave others behind. What You'll Learn: The real problem HOAi was built to solve Why traditional software alone wasn't enough How HOAi and Vantaca form a powerful performance ecosystem The future of community management through the lens of scalable AI Whether you're an industry veteran or just starting to explore what's next, this episode is packed with strategic insights you can’t afford to miss.

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    Legacy Meets Innovation: How EJF Is Leading the Next Era of Community Management

    Episode Summary:In this episode of Guilty by Association, Eddie Key sits down with Peter Greaves, Founder and CEO of EJF Real Estate Services, to explore how one of the most respected names in community management is scaling operations, transforming culture, and leading the charge into the AI-driven future of the industry.From humble beginnings answering phones during college to building a multi-market, culture-first company, Peter shares the story behind EJF’s growth, leadership philosophy, and intentional approach to acquisitions. He offers an unfiltered look at how to scale with purpose, preserve values through expansion, and equip teams with the right tech to elevate both client service and operational efficiency.They also dive into EJF’s early adoption of HOAi, the impact of AI on accounts payable and service response times, and why Peter believes the next five years will bring the most dramatic shift the industry has seen in decades.What You’ll Learn:How EJF scaled from a family-run rental division into a regional powerhouseThe role of leadership development and cultural alignment in successful acquisitionsWhy intentional growth matters more than fast growthHow Vantaca and HOAi are transforming operations—from AP to real-time customer supportWhat the future of the property manager role looks like in an AI-enabled worldPeter’s blueprint for breaking through the growth ceiling without burning out

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    Recruiting in Community Management Strategies for Success

    In this episode of Guilty by Association, host Eddie Key sits down with seasoned recruiting expert Sam Morton to explore what it really takes to attract and retain top-tier talent in the community management industry.From overcoming burnout and boosting candidate engagement to refining your interview process and understanding what today's job seekers really want—this episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone building or scaling a team. Whether you're an owner/operator, HR leader, or community management professional, you’ll walk away with real-world strategies to strengthen your recruiting game and elevate your team’s performance.🛠 What You’ll Learn:How to stand out in a competitive hiring marketWhat candidates value most (spoiler: it's not just salary)Tips for improving onboarding and long-term retentionHow recruiting directly impacts your company culture and growthIt’s honest, practical, and perfect for anyone in the community management space looking to build a team that performs.🔗 Subscribe, share, and let us know what you think!

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    How AI Is Redefining the Future of Community Management

    The AI Revolution in Community Association ManagementIn this episode of 'Guilty by Association,' Eddie Key and Ben Currin, CEO of Vantaca, delve into the impact of AI on community association management. The discussion covers the historical evolution of community management technology, from basic general ledgers to today's advanced AI solutions. They explore how AI can transform workflows, enhance human capabilities, and redefine community management. Key topics include the role of AI agents, the potential for job transformation rather than loss, and practical examples of AI in use. Ben emphasizes a future of greater productivity and human connection, driven by AI's rapid advancements.00:00 Introduction to Guilty by Association00:26 The AI Revolution in Community Management01:05 Evolution of Community Management Technology04:04 The Three Eras of Community Management Technology06:55 Embracing AI in Daily Life14:34 The Future of AI in Industry23:11 Vantaca's AI Innovations26:02 Conclusion and Call to Action

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    The Secrets of Staffing

    After experiencing the difficulties of hiring and retaining qualified staff while running a community association management organization, Rob Buffington of Gordian Staffing became his own first customer when he deciding to scale his business using remote team members. Now, five years and 300 employees later his company is focused on helping other community association management companies address their staffing needs with remote team members. Guilty By Association cohosts Shelly DeAntonio and BD Snow pick Rob’s brain on all things staffing, how to get the most out of a remote team member, and the best ways to set new employees up for success. 

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    Full Speed Ahead with Vantaca CEO Ben Currin

    In a change of trajectory, Vantaca CEO Ben Currin went from serving as a nuclear engineer on an attack sub in the U.S. Navy to piloting the rocket ship to the moon that is Vantaca. Guilty By Association Co-Hosts Shelly DeAntonio and B.D. Snow spend time with Currin chatting about his time in the military, the transition to civilian life, and what attracted him to Vantaca and the community association management industry. Currin also discusses where he sees certain trends in the industry going and Vantaca’s vision, along with some great book and podcast recommendations.

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    Balancing the Old with the New

    Balancing the Old with the NewHow do you balance processes that have worked in the past with new emerging technologies that help a community run more efficiently? Ricky Zilem, VP of Business Development with PS Property Management in Austin, Texas, stops by the Guilty By Association studio to chat about the questions community management associations are asking themselves, and new tech solutions emerging in the CAM industry. Cohosts Shelly DeAntonio and BD Snow also become the interviewees when answering Zilem's questions about how Vantaca approaches our relationship with community association management companies.

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    From Customer to Customer Success Manager

    Vantaca Customer Success Manager Stacey Kruse joins Guilty by Association: The Vantaca Podcast to chat with co hosts Shelly DeAntonio and BD Snow about her experience with Vantaca both as a customer and an employee. Having personally experienced the implementation process for Vantaca while working at a community association management company, Kruse talks about how understanding where our clients are coming from has helped her in her role as a customer success manager. The Vantaca team also dives into change management, working through the different laws in each state, working remotely, and the best HOA violation she's seen.

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    Management with Service in Mind

    Customer service can mean many things to many people. To Chris Morales, Director of Workflow at Heritage Property Management Services in Atlanta, Georgia, customer service is of the utmost importance when working in the community association management industry. Guilty by Association cohosts Shelly DeAntonio and BD Snow sit down with Chris to chat about her career journey, her customer service philosophy, and the importance of education in the CAM industry at every level—from community managers to homeowners and board members.

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    Banking on CAM: Trends and Insights in CAM Banking

    On this episode of Guilty by Association, cohosts Shelly DeAntonio and BD Snow are joined by James Bradley, Director of Business Development Strategy with Association Prime. Having spent time in many sectors of the community association management industry, banker Bradley provides his unique look at the trends and insights around the relationship between community association management companies and their banks.Guilty by Association: The Vantaca Podcast is available for streaming on Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Podcast, and More!

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    Win as a Team: The Importance of People & Culture

    Anyone who has spent time around a Vantaca employee will tell you -- we're big on company culture. Vantaca Director of People and Culture, Graham Elmore, stops by the Guilty by Association studio to chat with hosts Shelly DeAntonio and BD Snow about the lengths to which the Vantaca team has gone to build that winning company culture and the importance of finding the right people. As someone who was previously an elementary school principal, Graham also chats about his path to Vantaca and how some of the people management strategies he learned in the classroom apply to the corporate world as well. Learn how Vantaca employees like Graham strive to embody our core principles of: win as a team, always growing, responsibility starts with me, an unwavering commitment to the customer experience and no big company BS, each and every day.

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    Engineering Success with Vantaca Co-Founder Dave Sweyer

    Guilty By Association and host Shelly DeAntonio have a special guest on this week — Vantaca co-founder Dave Sweyer. In addition to being the co-founder of Vantaca, Dave is also the co-owner of CAMS, an industry leader in community association management since 1991. CAMS is headquartered in Wilmington, NC, with locations across the Carolinas. An engineer at heart, Dave chats with Shelly about everything from what led him to the CAM industry, to the founding of Vantaca and valuable lessons learned along the way about facilitating change management, building successful teams, and the importance of asking the right questions.

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    Every Super Hero Has an Origin Story: How Vantaca Began

    How did Vantaca come to exist? What deficiencies were there in the community association management industry that led our founders to build a better solution? Two of Vantaca’s original employees—Greg Rohde, Chief Growth Officer, and Lauren Godwin, Chief Customer Officer—talk about the early days of Vantaca, the impetus to create the software, and their own journeys within the CAM industry. Host Shelly DeAntonio dives into the past, present and future of Vantaca with Greg and Lauren.

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    Finding the Pulse, the next step, Acquisitions

    How can your previous career in a different industry help you become successful in a different industry? Scott Wolf, owner of Brigs in the Greater Boston Area, has a rich history in the hospitality industry that has molded himself and his company's core values. From learning customer service standards from one of the leading hospitality chains in the world he believes that understanding how to service the client and provide top quality service is what has allowed Brigs to evolve year after year while acquiring other companies. Scott chats with BD and Shelly about the transition of acquiring a company and maintaining a positive culture and exceptional customer service.

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    The book of Komatsu Hosted by: BD Snow and Shelly DeAntonio

    Evelyn Dufford with Association Services of Washington joins BD Snow and Shelly DeAntonio to chat about how the pandemic affected our industry, board education, areas of focus, and the infamous “Book of Komatsu.” Learn how the Association Services of Washington pivoted during and after the pandemic with their employees and their clients. How has the pandemic changed the landscape for where people live, and will they commute to work? How were receivables impacted due to the pandemic? While the day-to-day hustle of running a management company embodies many moving parts, Evelyn and her team came up with a creative way to record some of the most memorable and outrageous HOA stories.

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    HOA after dark, the first client, the OG Hosted by: BD Snow and Shelly DeAntonio

    What is it like to be the first client on new software in the industry? Lisa Turner with Silver Leaf Management Company in Loganville, Georgia sits down with BD Snow and Shelly DeAntonio to peel back the layers of the transition and evolution of Vantaca. Lisa takes us through Silver Leaf’s 5-year journey with Vantaca and how it has impacted her company, employees, and board members. Lisa also lets us in on some of her strangest violations yet, HOA after dark….

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    Get comfortable with being uncomfortable, the evolution Hosted by BD Snow and Shelly DeAntonio

    From IT to property manager, to Executive of PRM Chicago; Niall Dempsey taps into the importance of technology in the Community Management industry. Technology has allowed PRM Chicago to have an employee work-life balance, efficient training, analyzing data, and recruiting. Vantaca’s software has allowed Niall and PRM Chicago to customize workflows, and dictate the software for his company and not have the software dictate the company.

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Guilty By Association is the podcast where community management meets the bigger conversation. Hosted by Maegan Woytek and the Vantaca team, Guilty by Association features leaders from inside and outside the CAM industry exploring how automation, service design, and operational excellence are transforming the way management companies operate. Plus our biweekly News You Need to Know segment covering the stories shaping the profession right now.

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