PODCAST · religion
Moms With A Call
by McKenzie Jevnikar & Rebecca Rowan
A messy podcast for the spiritually curious. We’re not rewriting Christianity, we’re getting back to the heart of it; because it’s about relationships, not religion. This isn’t a space for preaching. This is a space for presence. For stories. For wrestling. For quiet hope. We're here to plant seeds, not push agendas. So if you’re tired of feeling like your story doesn’t fit inside a church box…If you’ve ever wondered if you could still be loved by God after everything you've been through… Or if you’re just looking for something real, grounded, or different...Come have a seat ↓
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S1:EP36 Joy, Even Here: A Story Of Kidney Failure, With Haley Rae
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this powerful and deeply human conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with their good friend, Haley Rae — brand and web designer, wife, sister, and transplant recipient — to walk through a story marked by resilience, grief, and the quiet decision to keep choosing joy. Haley shares how what began as severe migraines and high blood pressure slowly unfolded into something much more serious… a diagnosis of stage three kidney disease that would eventually progress to kidney failure. What followed was a season filled with uncertainty. Doctor visits. Treatments that didn’t quite work. Questions without clear answers. And then, in March 2025, everything shifted. Haley describes the moment her body crashed; critically low hemoglobin, emergency hospitalization, and the sudden beginning of dialysis. What had once been a distant possibility became her everyday reality overnight. She invites us into what life on dialysis actually looks like. The physical toll. The strict fluid restrictions. The loss of independence. The way your world quietly gets smaller. But beneath the medical journey is something even deeper. The grief of delayed motherhood. Two IVF attempts that didn’t go as planned. The emotional weight chronic illness places on marriage, friendships, and identity. And yet, woven through it all is something steady. Faith that doesn’t always explain the “why,” but holds her in the middle of it. A mindset shift toward choosing joy, not because circumstances are easy, but because joy becomes a form of survival. There’s recovery. There’s processing trauma. There’s learning how to live again in a body that has been through so much. Together, they talk about how hardship clarifies relationships, how receiving help can be just as hard as giving it, and how sometimes the most meaningful support is simply showing up. Episode Timeline 00:31 – Meet Haley Rae 01:59 – Transplant recovery update 03:09 – Diagnosis and early signs 05:06 – Dialysis and sister match 06:47 – Understanding kidney disease 08:19 – Emotional whiplash after diagnosis 11:09 – Life on dialysis 13:05 – Fertility and IVF setbacks 20:56 – Choosing joy and mindset 23:49 – Support system and community 31:00 – Faith through the hardest days 37:37 – Gratitude and sharing the story 40:24 – Transition into the transplant journey 42:09 – Emergency dialysis and health crash 43:37 – Fistula timing and medical urgency 44:17 – Family donor process 48:10 – The match phone call 50:29 – Surgery day emotions 53:19 – Life after transplant 55:44 – Donor recovery and process 58:50 – Processing trauma and PTSD 01:05:00 – Friendships in hardship 01:08:22 – Advice, hope, and surrender 01:17:31 – Closing reflections Connect With Haley: https://studiowilde.com https://www.instagram.com/haleyrae____/ Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:EP35 Autism Awareness: When the Story Changes, but God Stays, With Rebecca Rowan
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this deeply tender and honest conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca open the door into one of the most personal parts of Rebecca’s life; her journey as Tate’s mom. What begins as a simple check-in quickly turns into something much deeper. Timed around Autism Awareness Day, Rebecca shares the unfolding story of her four-year-old son Tate, who is nonverbal and navigating a regressive form of autism. She walks us through the early days and the long, often overwhelming road of seeking answers... pediatric visits, specialist referrals, waitlists, evaluations, and the complex reality of navigating both educational and medical systems. The waiting. The advocating. Not always knowing what comes next. But this episode is not just about diagnosis. It’s about grief, the kind that doesn’t always have language. It’s about letting go of expectations while still holding deep love. It’s about rejecting “toxic positivity” and learning how to sit honestly with what is hard. Rebecca shares how allowing herself to process those emotions didn’t pull her away from Tate; it brought her closer to becoming the mother he actually needs. And woven throughout it all is faith. Not as a quick answer. Not as a way to bypass pain. But as something that holds both grief and purpose at the same time. Rebecca shares how her understanding of neurodivergence has shifted, seeing it not just as a challenge, but as something deeply sacred. A different way of experiencing the world. A closeness to God that doesn’t need to be explained to be real. The conversation closes with a powerful reflection on Tate’s name, explored through Hebrew meaning and numerology — “shield hand” — a reminder of protection, calling, and the possibility that even what feels confusing or heavy may still be held within God’s purpose. In this episode, they unpack: Tate’s story and early developmental changes Navigating regression and recognizing early signs The long journey through evaluations and diagnosis Educational vs. medical diagnosis and what that means Grief, overwhelm, and rejecting toxic positivity Learning how to process hard emotions honestly Parenting a neurodivergent child with presence and intention Seeing neurodivergence as connection, not just difference Faith that holds both pain and purpose The meaning behind Tate’s name and themes of protection and calling Sometimes faith doesn’t take the hard thing away. Sometimes it meets you inside it. Episode Timeline: 00:00 – Welcome to Moms With A Call 03:19 – Meeting Tate and his story 04:29 – The diagnosis journey begins 08:29 – Early signs and regression 11:36 – Navigating therapy services 12:27 – Why diagnosis takes time 16:17 – Finding speech and occupational therapy 20:53 – Grief and toxic positivity 24:53 – Seeing Tate through the lens of Jesus 28:30 – Neurodivergence and connection to the divine 29:54 – Innocence, presence, and energy 31:16 – Volunteering and perspective 32:29 – Neurodivergence as gift 34:43 – Parenting challenges and support 36:23 – Hebrew meaning and numerology of Tate’s name 42:49 – Divine preparation and purpose 49:25 – Surrender and spiritual order 53:18 – Gratitude and closing Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP34 Midnight Series, Between Desire and Guilt: Finding Our Place in the Body of Christ
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are honest, the reflections run deep, and faith meets real life. In this episode, McKenzie and Rebecca begin with a few life updates before moving into a deeper conversation about desire, guilt, calling, and what it means to live faithfully with the life God has given you. From there, the conversation turns toward February’s theme: connection to the body. What began as a focus on physical awareness slowly unfolded into something deeper...a conversation about desire, limiting beliefs, prayer, and the subtle ways we “should” ourselves out of the lives we long for. They talk about the small shifts that revealed bigger patterns. Eating more meals at home and noticing how restaurant food affected their bodies. Paying attention to headaches and energy levels. Slowing down enough to notice what the body is actually saying. Through therapy exercises and honest reflection, they explore the challenge of naming desires that feel off-limits, including the complicated question of whether they want more children and what beliefs might be shaping that answer. The conversation widens into bigger themes of materialism, privilege, and calling. What does it mean to hold good things without guilt? How do we grieve suffering in the world while still receiving the blessings in our own lives? Together, they wrestle with the tension between sadness and guilt, and what it looks like to use what you have—your home, your resources, your gifts—in service of others. They also reflect on the beauty of the body of Christ: a community where people are called to serve in different ways, through different gifts, and in different seasons. In this episode, they unpack: February’s focus on connection to the body Eating at home and noticing physical responses to food Therapy exercises around naming hidden desires Wrestling with the question of more children Limiting beliefs and the pressure of “should” Materialism, privilege, and humility Hosting and home as places of fellowship Guilt versus sadness in the face of suffering Using blessings as a way to serve others The body of Christ and different callings If you’ve ever struggled with wanting something while wondering if you’re allowed to… If you’ve wrestled with gratitude, guilt, or the tension of having more than others… If you’re learning that desire itself might be something God wants to speak through… This episode offers space to wrestle with those questions honestly. Sometimes faith isn’t about suppressing desire. Sometimes it’s about bringing it to God and asking what He wants to do with it. Episode Timeline: 00:00 – Midnight Series intro 00:32 – Dad’s birthday and sourdough bagels 02:12 – Family weekend catch-up 04:02 – Kids entering the sports era 06:13 – Barnes & Noble book signing highlights 09:17 – Publisher updates and uncertainty 09:53 – Renovation surprises 11:11 – Moving to Greensboro plans 13:55 – February recap and shifting desires 15:15 – Eating at home and noticing body signals 18:44 – Desire list exercise 21:29 – Faith and the question of more children 26:09 – Materialism and humility 33:13 – Home as a place of fellowship 34:39 – Privilege and guilt 37:03 – Using blessings to serve 45:50 – Guilt versus sadness 57:27 – Many ways to give 01:00:57 – One body, many parts 01:04:44 – Closing reflections Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you—your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP33 Come As You Are: Faith, Motherhood, and Making Money Without Sacrificing What Matters, With Sam Bonwick
Sam shares how growing up around marital conflict shaped her early distrust of marriage, and how mentorship later modeled a different way. Through her Amway network marketing community, she encountered couples who embodied partnership, faith, and stability in a way she hadn’t seen before. What began as business mentorship slowly became spiritual reawakening. She describes being drawn back to God not through pressure, but through a “come as you are” faith. Non-denominational services, healthy marriage models, and curiosity over certainty reshaped how she understood belonging. This conversation moves gently through joy and grief — through depression, anxiety, panic attacks, and a recent miscarriage that became a profound moment of surrender. Sam speaks honestly about choosing joy as a discipline, not a personality trait, and how faith deepened in the middle of uncertainty. Together, they explore what it means to be called to both motherhood and money. To reject the narrative that Christian women must choose between presence and provision. To believe that God is not threatened by ambition when it’s anchored in alignment. They talk about identity beyond motherhood, mental load, dating standards, denominations, faith conversations with kids, and the tension between chaos and clarity when you’re building something new. They unpack: Growing up with conflict and doubting marriage Finding mentorship that modeled healthy faith and partnership Rediscovering God through curiosity and non-denominational community Choosing joy through depression, anxiety, and panic Surrendering through miscarriage and grief Being called to both motherhood and income Challenging the belief that Christians must be poor Identity beyond motherhood Mental load and the “dad filter” Planning systems and practical “money-making moves” Building a Moms in Business community rooted in faith Sam also shares how she supports moms in business through structured planning systems, intentional income strategy, her “money-making moves” framework, and tools designed to reduce overwhelm and increase clarity. If you’ve ever felt torn between presence and provision… If you’ve wondered whether ambition can coexist with surrender… If you’re craving faith that feels welcoming instead of performative… This episode is for you. You don’t have to become someone else to be used by God. You can come as you are. Episode Timeline: 00:00 – Welcome to the table 00:31 – Introductions and recording 04:14 – Business background and life transitions 06:21 – Family upbringing and marriage doubts 07:47 – Searching for purpose and vision for motherhood 10:56 – Discovering mentorship through Amway 12:12 – Healthy marriage models 13:42 – Reframing faith after Catholic school 20:51 – Dating standards and meeting her husband 27:21 – Choosing joy through mental health challenges 32:46 – Called to mom and money 40:35 – Identity beyond motherhood 45:02 – Returning to curiosity about God 45:57 – Denominations and belonging 46:48 – Finding a welcoming church 49:26 – Baby believer mindset 51:10 – Faith conversations with kids 52:42 – Curiosity over certainty 01:02:56 – From chaos to clarity 01:04:37 – Mental load and the “dad filter” 01:08:19 – Money-Making Moves GPT 01:11:07 – Moms in Business Community 01:20:06 – Surrender through miscarriage 01:31:47 – Closing reflections Show Links: Moms in Business Community (Free Facebook Group): https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1HxBQBx4D9/ Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP32 Midnight Series, “Woo Woo For Jesus.”
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are late, the lights are low, and nothing is too sacred to say out loud. In this deeply personal episode, McKenzie and Rebecca explore what it looks like to walk a middle path: holding spiritual curiosity while remaining rooted in Scripture, anchored in Jesus, and guided by discernment. They talk about “energy” and nervous system regulation not as replacements for faith, but as part of God’s design or tools that can be reclaimed rather than rejected. This episode also marks the beginning of McKenzie’s “Connection Year,” a season dedicated to reconnecting with self, body, community, and God. She shares how something as simple as baking sourdough became sacred stillness, revealing that what she once called “rest” through reality TV was often just distraction. Through an exercise tracing her hands, she identifies what she’s been holding that God never asked her to carry and the emotional weight she’s slowly learning to release. From there, the conversation turns inward to nervous system regulation, health struggles with Hashimoto’s and PCOS, and the inherited beliefs that shaped her relationship with hustle, scarcity, and safety. This conversation moves gently but honestly through trauma, grace, accountability, and what it means to heal without rewriting the truth. They unpack: Tate’s ER scare and discerning God’s redirection Navigating medical anxiety and financial pressure Asking God for mentorship and finding spiritual guidance Holding Scripture and spiritual curiosity together The beginning of a “Connection Year” Sourdough as sacred stillness The “What You’re Holding” exercise and releasing burdens Connecting to the body through nervous system healing Hashimoto’s, PCOS, and stress patterns Childhood programming around hustle and approval Scarcity mindset and achievement-based worth Family dynamics, trauma, and generational beliefs Forgiveness, boundaries, and the difference between reconciliation and repair The rise of no-contact relationships and trusting the Holy Spirit in hard family decisions If you’ve ever felt torn between honoring your parents and honoring your healing… If you’ve wrestled with rest, control, or feeling safe without striving… If you’re learning that stillness is not laziness, but obedience… This episode is for you. Healing doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes it looks like sourdough, surrender, and letting go. Episode Timeline: 01:18 – Tate’s ER scare 04:42 – Navigating care and financial stress 07:52 – Blocked paths and protection 10:38 – Finding spiritual mentorship 14:06 – Faith meets curiosity 20:19 – The Connection Year begins 22:42 – Sourdough and sacred stillness 31:17 – The “What You’re Holding” exercise 36:47 – Connecting to the body 41:17 – Divine timing and comparison 43:31 – The wound of acceptance 45:40 – Healthy escapes and avoidance 46:30 – Dad’s hustle blueprint 48:36 – Scarcity money mindset 50:20 – Approval through achievement 52:24 – Control, trust, and surrender 57:15 – Family dynamics and values 01:02:23 – Therapy, grace, and trauma 01:08:49 – No contact and repair 01:23:41 – Forgiveness, boundaries, and faith 01:27:00 – Closing reflections Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP31 Synesthesia & Scripture: Heather Eck on Spirit Portraits & God as the Source
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this beautifully layered conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with multimedia abstract artist and writer Heather Eck, an intuitive painter and color healing practitioner who creates spirit portraits and experiences synesthesia, seeing and sensing color in people’s energy and emotions. Heather shares her journey from two decades in corporate HR to stepping fully into her creative calling after burnout became an invitation back to God. What began as exhaustion turned into surrender. And surrender led her back to the creativity she once held as a child. Raised Methodist but always spiritually curious, Heather opens up about how deep Bible study since 2020 reshaped her understanding of intuition, chakras, numerology, and energy. Rather than separating these tools from Christianity, she describes returning to God as the Source; the One who created color, vibration, symbolism, and meaning in the first place. This episode isn’t about abandoning Scripture. It’s about wrestling with it, studying it deeply, and asking how ancient Hebrew language, pictographs, and symbolism reveal a layered, living faith. Together, they explore what discernment looks like in spiritually complex spaces, how to recognize “low-level” or draining energy, and why surrender often shows up through synchronicities, repeated numbers, and unexpected confirmations. They also talk through: Heather’s transition from corporate burnout to full-time artist Art as “sermons” and creativity as worship Hebrew letters, numerology, and symbolic meaning in Scripture Reconciling spiritual tools with biblical literacy Spiritual warfare, protection practices, and prayer Nervous system regulation, triggers, and energetic boundaries Blocked energy and how unprocessed emotions show up in the body The chakra color system (red through violet/white) and what each center represents McKenzie’s pink “higher heart” portrait and themes of trust and control Spirit portraits, creative healing journeys, and community calls Synesthesia, seeing color in others, and sensing emotional fields If you’ve ever felt spiritually curious but unsure where curiosity meets conviction, this episode makes space for the in-between. It honors questions without demanding certainty. It invites discernment without fear. This conversation is for those who love Scripture and also sense that God’s creativity may be wider than we were taught. Episode Timeline 00:31 – Meet Heather Eck 02:12 – From corporate burnout to creative calling 04:14 – Methodist roots and spiritual curiosity 07:38 – Reconciling spiritual gifts with Scripture 12:30 – Surrender, synchronicities, and Hebrew numerology 17:43 – Spiritual tools and returning to God as Source 20:12 – Spiritual warfare and protection practices 23:54 – Triggers, boundaries, and nervous system regulation 30:52 – Blocked energy and how it shows up in the body 37:02 – Higher heart (pink), trust, and control 38:53 – Core wounds and generational patterns 40:00 – Chakra color overview: red to violet 43:38 – Working with color in everyday life 50:00 – Seasons, style, and energetic alignment 53:25 – Body symptoms, journaling, and healing prompts 55:38 – Spirit portraits and creative healing journey 58:17 – Synesthesia and seeing color around people 01:02:59 – Final reflections and invitation Episode Links: Heather Eck Website: https://heathereck.com/ Instagram: @heathereckartist Anatomy of the Spirit by Caroline Myss: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0609800140 Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Show updates and more → www.momswithacall.com Listen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and tell us how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? We’d love to hear from you: [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP30 Midnight Series, Seeking Spiritual Maturity: A Year of Healing, Growth and Holy Reflection with Rebecca Rowan
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are real and the walls come down. In this intimate, heart-to-heart episode, Rebecca reflects on a year marked by unraveling, healing, and the slow, sacred work of becoming. What began as a search for clarity turned into an invitation to slow down, listen deeper, and let God meet her beneath the noise. This episode weaves together reflections on choosing a word for the year, navigating spiritual warfare and anxiety, and learning how to create space for God’s voice in a world that never stops talking. Through honest conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca open up about shedding old identities, regulating their nervous systems, and discovering that spiritual maturity isn’t about perfection, but presence. It’s a conversation about learning to sit still long enough to hear God, brave enough to face fear, and tender enough to allow healing to unfold in its own time. We talk about: Reflecting on a year that stretched faith and deepened trust The power of choosing a word and letting it shape your spiritual posture Slowing down to create space for God in a chaotic world Prayer, solitude, and regulating the nervous system for deeper connection Spiritual warfare, anxiety, and learning to stand grounded instead of afraid Embracing your true identity and honoring the unique work God is doing in you Why spiritual maturity looks more human than polished If you’re in a season of reflection, healing, or quiet reorientation, this episode feels like a soft landing. A reminder that growth doesn’t always shout; sometimes it whispers. Episode Timeline: 00:29 – Cozy vibes, pets, and settling in 01:42 – Capturing moments and the tension of presence 02:47 – Reflecting on 2025 and a rough beginning 06:02 – Spiritual journey and personal growth 10:01 – Prayer, solitude, and sacred stillness 16:33 – Seeking deeper connection with God 23:16 – Slowing down in a world that rushes 25:03 – Regulating the nervous system for spiritual clarity 26:01 – Generational shifts in spiritual formation 26:42 – Technical hiccups and energetic conversations 27:13 – Personal resolutions and spiritual journeys 27:52 – God’s unique work in every individual 28:32 – Convictions, truth, and discernment 31:55 – Spiritual warfare and overcoming fear 33:48 – Healing through spiritual awakening 41:42 – Looking back on a year of growth 48:15 – Spiritual maturity and embracing humanity 49:53 – Closing reflections and what’s ahead This episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and trust that God is still working, even when the progress feels quiet. Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP29 Exploring Faith, Gender, and Sexuality With Mattie Mae Motl
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this thoughtful and deeply respectful conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Mattie Mae Motl, a PhD candidate at the University of St. Andrews whose work focuses on gender and sexuality in the New Testament. Mattie Mae brings both scholarly insight and personal vulnerability as she shares her journey from growing up Southern Baptist to walking through faith deconstruction alongside her atheist husband. This episode invites listeners into a nuanced conversation about biblical literacy, historical and cultural context, and why understanding how Scripture was written matters just as much as what it says. Mattie Mae gently challenges surface-level interpretations, emphasizing the role of love, inclusion, and humility when engaging with difficult or debated texts. Rather than offering easy answers, this conversation makes space for curiosity, questions, and compassion. Together, they explore how faith can evolve, how parenting shapes our spiritual lens, and how God’s presence remains even in seasons of deconstruction and reimagining belief. We talk about: Mattie Mae’s upbringing in the Southern Baptist church and her academic calling What deconstruction looks like when faith and family intersect Gender and sexuality in Scripture and why historical context matters The importance of biblical literacy and reading the Bible responsibly Women in the Bible and their often-overlooked influence Holding love, inclusion, and faith together without fear This episode is for anyone who has wrestled with Scripture, felt tension between belief and lived experience, or longed for conversations that honor both faith and complexity. Episode Timeline: 01:06 – Meeting Mattie Mae and her journey into theology 03:00 – Growing up Southern Baptist 05:36 – Walking through deconstruction 11:07 – Parenting, faith, and personal conviction 14:40 – Challenging inherited beliefs 26:30 – Biblical context and interpretation 36:26 – Exploring the Hebrew Bible and TaNaK 37:45 – Why the Old Testament matters 39:57 – Deconstruction and evolving faith 44:39 – Reading Scripture through context 54:53 – Women in the Bible and their impact 01:02:24 – Resources for deeper study 01:08:25 – Final reflections If you’ve ever wondered how faith, scholarship, and real life can coexist, this episode offers a grounded reminder that God is not afraid of our questions and often meets us right in the middle of them. Show Links & Resources Mentioned: Instagram & TikTok: @mattiemaemotl Inspired by Rachel Held Evans https://rachelheldevans.com The Bible Project https://bibleproject.com James Cone https://yalebooks.yale.edu/author/james-h-cone Wil Gafney https://wilgafney.com The Justice of Jesus by Joash P. Thomas https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802867031 God Didn’t Make Us to Hate Us by Rev. Liz Edman https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802876936 Queer & Christian https://www.queerandchristian.com Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Show updates & more → https://www.momswithacall.com Listen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? Email us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP28 Midnight Series, We Are So Back: McKenzie’s Surrender Year Recapped
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this intimate late-night episode, McKenzie reflects on a year marked by spiritual warfare, internal tension, and the slow unraveling of control. What began as a pursuit of abundance and forward momentum became an unexpected invitation to surrender, not just plans and expectations, but fear, ego, and old survival patterns that no longer served her. Through honest storytelling, she opens up about the spiritual and emotional battles of 2025, including business strain, personal conflict, and the weight of trying to carry everything alone. This conversation explores what it looks like to release control to God, confront deeply rooted fears, and allow healing to happen at a soul level. A pivotal encounter with a spirit portrait artist becomes a moment of clarity and confirmation, illuminating the unseen spiritual work happening beneath the surface and affirming a connection to God that transcends language and logic. The episode closes with a vision for a coming Connection Year, a season devoted to deeper alignment with self, community, and God. This is a conversation about surrender as strength, faith as anchoring, and the quiet power of letting God lead when the path feels uncertain. We talk about: Walking through spiritual warfare and internal resistance The tension between control, ego, and true surrender Facing long-held fears and releasing old identities Discovering abundance through letting go, not striving A transformative spiritual encounter that affirmed divine presence Entering a new season focused on connection, healing, and alignment Episode Timeline: 00:00 – Welcome to the Midnight Series 03:33 – Reflecting on a year of surrender 04:58 – Spiritual warfare and inner conflict 07:21 – Wrestling with control 13:08 – Finding abundance through letting go 17:32 – A spiritual portrait and personal insight 31:00 – Connection and spiritual growth 31:54 – Faith metaphors and walking on water 38:13 – Numerology and personal seasons 41:45 – Reflections on spiritual cycles 50:19 – Introducing the Connection Year 54:58 – Final thoughts and reflections If you find yourself in a season of tension, pruning, surrender, or spiritual questioning, this episode offers a reminder that God often does His deepest work when we finally stop trying to control the outcome. Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and YouTube: @momswithacall Show updates and behind-the-scenes moments: www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Music. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you. Your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? Email us at [email protected] Intro and Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding and Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP27 When the Story Didn’t Go as Planned and God Showed Up Anyway, With Dare “Stokes” Blalock
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this deeply tender episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with their friend Dare, who bravely opens her heart to share her journey through infertility, pregnancy loss, and the long road toward surrendering her plans to God. With honesty and humility, Dare walks us through the ache of miscarriage, the emotional toll of IVF, the joy of unexpected pregnancy, and the spiritual awakening that unfolded in the middle of it all. This conversation is raw, hopeful, and full of the quiet miracles that happen when we loosen our grip and let God write the story. Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and gratitude at the same time, to navigate career and motherhood with an open hand, and to trust God even when the path feels impossible to understand. If you have ever walked through questions, waiting seasons, or the kind of heartbreak that changes you, Dares story will remind you that God is present in every chapter, even the ones that hurt the most. We talk about: The emotional and spiritual complexities of infertility The grief of miscarriage and the tenderness of healing IVF, pregnancy, and finding God in the waiting Navigating postpartum highs and lows Unexpected blessings that arrive when we surrender control Balancing calling, career, and motherhood with faith at the center Episode Timeline: 00:00 - Opening banter and personal anecdotes 02:10 - Introduction to the podcast 02:41 - Introducing our special guest 03:46 - Dares background and personal story 11:01 - Faith, struggle, and meeting God in the hard places 18:41 - Infertility and the long waiting season 41:07 - Reflections and cultural parallels 42:09 - The beginning of the IVF journey 43:04 - IVF success and the miracle of pregnancy 44:18 - Navigating IVF while holding onto faith 47:20 - Postpartum challenges and unexpected joys 51:27 - A surprising second pregnancy 01:01:56 - Career decisions through the lens of faith 01:12:56 - Final reflections on surrender Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and YouTube: @momswithacall Show updates, behind the scenes moments, and more: www.momswithacall.com Listen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and tell us how this episode moved you. Your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? We would love to hear from you: [email protected] Intro and Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding and Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP26 Midnight Series: Busy Seasons, Babies, and the Battle for Alignment
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this late-night heart-to-heart, McKenzie and Rebecca peel back the curtain on the real, unfiltered journey of building a business while holding a family, a calling, and a spiritual life all at once. Together, they explore the quiet tension between growth and overwhelm, purpose and pressure, identity and surrender. Through honest storytelling, McKenzie shares what it feels like to steward a business through busy seasons, navigate imposter syndrome, build a team from the ground up, and keep faith at the center when everything feels loud. This episode dives into spiritual alignment, discerning God’s voice in the chaos, and the sacred work of returning to peace when fear tries to take the lead. She also opens up about spiritual trauma, cord-cutting practices, and what it means to release what drains you so you can fully step into what God is calling you to do. It’s vulnerable, grounding, and full of reminders that you don’t have to hold it all alone; God never asked you to. We talk about: Balancing business expansion with motherhood, marriage, and real life Walking through imposter syndrome and the lies that try to hold you back Building an agency from scratch and learning to lead with faith Spiritual alignment, clarity, and discerning God’s direction Healing from spiritual trauma and releasing what no longer serves your spirit The power of prayer, surrender, and letting God steady your next step If you’ve ever felt stretched thin between your calling and your capacity, this episode will feel like a deep breath and a gentle reminder that God is in the details of your becoming. Episode Timeline: 00:29 – Balancing business and family life 02:32 – Navigating busy seasons 03:11 – Building and growing an agency 07:55 – Imposter syndrome and self-doubt 13:16 – Finding purpose and alignment 17:28 – Aligning your will with God’s guidance 17:57 – The power of prayer and cord-cutting 19:07 – Overcoming spiritual trauma 20:05 – A deeper look into cord-cutting ceremonies 21:35 – Visualizing and releasing spiritual cords 22:54 – Reflections on spiritual warfare 26:07 – Technical difficulties and laughter 31:12 – Final thoughts and encouragement Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a testimony of faith, healing, or redemption, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP25 Midnight Series, “He’s My Biblical Taylor Swift”
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this intimate late-night episode, McKenzie and Rebecca dive into the tender, transformative journey of rediscovering faith, letting go of old identities, and learning to see themselves the way God already does. Through raw storytelling, they unpack the meaning behind Rebecca’s rebaptism, exploring childhood faith, spiritual wounds, and the sacred moment of choosing Jesus again… with full awareness, full agency, and full surrender. This conversation weaves through themes of spiritual pruning, ego death, and the holy unraveling that often precedes healing. Together, they reflect on what it means to let God love you, to release the parts of yourself you once used for survival, and to step into the slow, deep work of being remade from the inside out. We talk about: Rebaptism, reclaiming faith, and being “born again” in a deeper way Spiritual pruning.. why God removes what no longer bears fruit Ego death, identity, and learning to release control The connection between motherhood, surrender, and spiritual awakening How God heals suppressed wounds and restores worth Ordinary ministry, compassion, and becoming more like Jesus If you’re in a season of breaking, rebuilding, or rediscovering who you are in God’s eyes, this episode will feel like a breath of air in the wilderness. Episode Timeline: 03:50 – Rediscovering faith and the meaning of rebaptism 11:23 – Spiritual pruning and healing 17:23 – Understanding divine love and self-worth 26:28 – Healing from the inside out 26:58 – The power of ordinary ministry 27:27 – Understanding and empathy in ministry 28:09 – Self-love, identity, and God’s gentleness 29:16 – Prayer as a pathway to healing 31:14 – Releasing emotions we learned to suppress 33:04 – Spiritual power and manifesting purpose 38:17 – Ego death and the refinement of motherhood 39:56 – Spiritual blindness vs. spiritual death 45:02 – Entering the wilderness with God 50:18 – The influence of Tim Mackie 53:12 – Final reflections Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a testimony of faith, healing, or redemption, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP24 Heart of Faith: How God Carried Sterling Through the Impossible, Pt 2
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this powerful continuation of Sterling’s story, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down once again with Sterling Griggs as he shares the miraculous details of his near-death experience and the dreams, visions, and divine encounters that carried him through a medically induced coma. Sterling’s testimony paints a vivid picture of what it means to cling to faith when your body is broken but your spirit is still fighting. From surreal visions that blurred the line between Heaven and earth to the unwavering love of his wife Kelly and their community, this episode is a reminder that God is always present, even when we’re suspended between life and eternity. This is a story about hope, healing, and the miracles that happen when we fully surrender to God’s plan. We talk about: The dreams and visions Sterling experienced while in a coma The spiritual battle between fear and faith How God used community, love, and prayer to sustain his family Finding purpose and peace after near-death experiences What surrender truly looks like on the other side of survival If you’ve ever wondered what divine intervention feels like, or how faith can breathe life into even the darkest valleys, this conversation will leave you in awe of the God who never lets go. Episode Timeline: 00:31 – A journey through surgery and dreams 00:56 – Protective and hopeful visions 03:13 – A nursing conference dream 03:33 – A dark and dreary conference 06:06 – Finding light and worship 12:54 – Super Bowl dream and family connections 15:40 – Recovery and reflections 23:20 – Community support and recovery 23:42 – Medical trauma and family impact 25:10 – Sharing the experience at a symposium 26:25 – Divine intervention and medical miracles 27:14 – Reflections on near-death experiences 31:13 – Faith and doubt in crisis 33:24 – Purpose and healing 37:56 – Living faith in everyday life 42:01 – The meaning of surrender 43:10 – Final thoughts and gratitude Connect with Moms With A Call: -Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall -Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com -Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon -Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP23 Heart of Faith: How God Carried Sterling Through the Impossible, Pt 1
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this deeply moving part one of the episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Sterling Griggs, godfather to Rebecca’s children and a man whose story embodies perseverance, prayer, and the power of God’s healing hand. From a heart murmur diagnosis in childhood to surviving multiple life-threatening surgeries, Sterling’s journey is one of resilience, surrender, and unwavering faith through every setback and scar. He opens up about the fear, the fight, and the miraculous moments that only God could orchestrate, reminding us that faith doesn’t always prevent the storm, but it will carry you through it. This is more than a story of recovery; it’s a story of redemption, community, and the hope that comes from trusting God with what feels impossible. We talk about: The long road of heart complications and recovery The emotional and spiritual toll of major surgery How family, faith, and community carried him through The power of prayer and surrender in moments of fear Finding purpose in pain and healing through hope If you’ve ever questioned where God is in the middle of suffering, this episode will remind you, He’s in every heartbeat, every breath, and every miracle along the way. Episode Timeline: 00:32 – Special guest intro: Sterling Griggs 01:14 – Early life and discovering his heart condition 03:21 – The first major surgery and early recovery 07:22 – Health setbacks in 2019 08:02 – The pneumonia vaccine incident 13:47 – Facing a second major surgery 27:27 – Cardiac arrest and a rare medical complication 30:43 – Advocacy, decisions, and divine timing 34:54 – Healing, rehabilitation, and gratitude 46:00 – The infection that tested his faith 51:43 – Final reflections on God’s goodness Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP22 Midnight Series, Free But Not Whole: How Faith Heals A Divided World
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this raw late-night episode, McKenzie and Rebecca unpack the tension between freedom, faith, and the noise of the modern world. What does it really mean to be “free” in a culture driven by division, fear, and social media outrage? And how do we stay anchored in truth when the loudest voices often drown out the wisest ones? Together, they explore the illusion of freedom and security, the pressure to perform activism online, and the toll that constant media consumption takes on our mental and spiritual well-being. Through honesty and discernment, they share what it means to choose alignment over approval and how real change begins not in our posts, but in our hearts and communities. We talk about: The illusion of freedom in a culture of control and noise The role of faith and discernment in modern activism Political polarization and the pressure to “speak out” The emotional and spiritual cost of media overload Why true healing starts in our homes, not our hashtags If you’ve ever wrestled with what it means to live out your values in a divided world, this episode will remind you that God’s freedom is not performative; it’s personal, rooted in peace, and meant to unite, not divide. Episode Timeline: 00:29 – The illusion of freedom and security 00:57 – Privilege and marginalization 01:39 – Political polarization and media influence 03:11 – Censorship and freedom of speech 05:13 – The impact of social media on mental health 06:25 – The role of privilege in social justice 07:37 – Actions speak louder than words 09:49 – Serving and healing the community 10:13 – Taking action beyond social media 11:57 – The problem with paid content creators 14:33 – The importance of local community 16:17 – The power of words and faith 18:21 – Final thoughts and reflections Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP21 “Astrology Is Not A Faith. It’s A Tool,” with Amanda Clark
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Amanda Clark, founder of Atria Social, for an open-hearted conversation about faith, mysticism, and what it means to explore spirituality beyond the boxes we’ve been handed. Amanda shares her journey from a Catholic upbringing to discovering astrology, mysticism, and the unseen threads that connect us to God’s creation. Through stories of seeing auras, experiencing telepathic moments, and studying the deeper language of the stars, Amanda invites us into a dialogue that blends curiosity, discernment, and awe for the mysteries of faith. This isn’t a conversation about choosing one path over another; it’s about the courage to ask questions, listen for God’s voice in unexpected places, and surrender control to co-create with the divine. Together, we explore how to raise children with spiritual awareness, integrate different belief systems with grace, and stay anchored in love through it all. We talk about: How astrology can deepen, not replace, our connection with God Navigating faith, mysticism, and discernment in modern spirituality Childhood moments that opened Amanda’s spiritual curiosity Raising spiritually aware children without fear or rigidity What it means to co-create with God instead of controlling outcomes If you’ve ever wrestled with faith and curiosity, or wondered how to reconcile mystery and belief, this episode will remind you that God’s presence isn’t confined to one space, it’s written into every part of creation. Episode Timeline: 00:27 – Astrological insights and personal stories 00:55 – Introducing Amanda Clark 01:45 – Amanda’s mystical journey 02:50 – Astrology and Christianity 04:16 – Childhood experiences and spirituality 06:04 – Navigating faith and mysticism 08:40 – Telepathy and family connections 12:35 – Exploring the universe and spirituality 39:02 – Astrology and personal faith 41:20 – The Gene Keys and Human Design 43:51 – The Saturn return experience 44:21 – Health challenges and spiritual awakening 50:58 – Astrology beyond sun signs 52:10 – Moving to Austin and finding community 54:08 – Interpreting religious texts 55:36 – The role of women in religious history 01:14:53 – Parenting and religious exploration 01:22:50 – Parallels between motherhood and spirituality 01:26:40 – Astrology as a tool for awareness 01:34:37 – Boundaries and spiritual guidance 01:42:48 – The concept of surrender 01:56:42 – Final thoughts and reflections Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles | Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP20 Give Back Series, “Charity’s Chill”, Weekend Meals On Wheels with Myra Webb
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In the first episode of our Give Back Series, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Myra Webb, chairperson of Weekend Meals on Wheels in Wilmington, to spotlight a local mission that’s feeding both bodies and spirits. Myra shares the heart behind this vital organization; how they provide meals, connection, and care to elderly and vulnerable neighbors every weekend. From organizing volunteers to overcoming challenges during COVID-19, this conversation shines a light on what community looks like when people show up for each other. We also talk about Taste of Wrightsville Beach, the annual fundraiser that fuels the program for an entire year, and how simple acts of service can create a ripple of hope far beyond a single meal. If you’ve ever wanted to get involved but didn’t know where to start, this episode will remind you that your “yes” can make a real difference. We talk about: The mission behind Weekend Meals on Wheels and who it serves How COVID-19 changed the way they reach those in need The power of community, volunteerism, and faith in action Taste of Wrightsville Beach and how it sustains their mission all year Simple ways to serve and give back in your own neighborhood Episode Timeline: 00:31 – Getting comfortable: casual conversations 00:59 – Introducing the Give Back Series 01:12 – Spotlight on Weekend Meals on Wheels 02:36 – How COVID-19 shaped their service 05:20 – Community involvement and volunteer impact 12:41 – Taste of Wrightsville Beach: the story behind the event 15:44 – Expanding to Brunswick County 16:20 – The logistics of delivering meals with heart 17:48 – Special touches that make a difference 19:20 – The Taste event’s purpose and success 22:07 – How local businesses rally behind the cause 25:19 – How to volunteer or donate 29:33 – Final reflections and a call to action Episode Links: Weekend Meals on Wheels Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles | Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP19 Embracing God-Centered Parenting with Meaghan Hampton
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this powerful episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with licensed professional counselor Meaghan Hampton, founder of Soul Care for Families. Meaghan’s heart beats for helping parents integrate psychology, theology, and child development so they can raise children who are both emotionally healthy and spiritually grounded. Through her work, Meaghan has seen how cycles of fear and shame can break families down, but also how God can rebuild them through connection, repair, and grace. Together, we dive into what it means to parent through a Christ-centered lens, moving beyond punishment to true discipline that reflects the heart of Jesus. This conversation explores the neuroscience of co-regulation, the difference between our “God image” and “God concept,” and why modeling apologies and repair is one of the most powerful gifts we can give our children. If you’ve ever wrestled with parental guilt, wondered how your parenting aligns with your faith, or longed for practical ways to build a home marked by freedom, faith, and healing; this one’s for you. We talk about: Parenting in the digital age and the pressures of social media The difference between punishment and discipline through a biblical lens How repair and modeling apologies reshape our children’s view of God Breaking cycles of fear, punishment, and shame in family systems Co-regulation and why your presence matters more than perfection Episode Timeline: 00:31 – Meet our special guest: Meaghan Hampton 01:58 – Meaghan’s journey and Soul Care for Families 04:14 – Parenting in the age of social media 06:16 – Understanding discipline and punishment 07:20 – Biblical interpretations and parenting 18:56 – Parenting styles and their impact 28:18 – Modeling behavior and repairing mistakes 34:33 – Repairing relationships with apologies 35:51 – Modeling apologies for children 37:01 – Dealing with parental guilt and shame 39:01 – Understanding childhood triggers 43:14 – Connect and Correct: a discipline framework 44:47 – Co-regulation and its impact 48:00 – Encouragement for parents 51:49 – Resources for parents 54:12 – The importance of surrender 55:43 – Closing reflections and final thoughts Episode Links: Counseling Services Soul Care Circle Substack Sacred Co-Regulation PDF The Whole Brain Child by Dr. Dan Siegel Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles | Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP18 Midnight Series, More Than Mom: Rediscovering Identity and Jesus in the Middle of Motherhood
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this honest late-night talk, McKenzie and Rebecca open up about the messy, beautiful, and often exhausting reality of motherhood. From the tug-of-war between career and calling to the unseen mental load of raising kids, they share stories that every mom will recognize in her own way. The conversation holds space for the joy and gratitude children bring, but also the tears behind closed doors: the bedtime struggles, postpartum fog, and the constant question of “am I doing enough?” Woven throughout is the reminder that God meets us in the chaos, offering grace, provision, and a steady hand when we feel stretched too thin. We talk about: The tension between being present at home and pursuing work you love The unseen weight of schedules, mental load, and trying to “do it all” Postpartum realities, breastfeeding, and finding your new normal The role of faith in navigating motherhood’s hardest nights Why every mother’s journey is sacred, unique, and worthy of celebration If you’ve ever laid awake after the kids finally fell asleep, wondering if you’re enough, this episode is for you. Episode Timeline: 00:29 – Bedtime struggles and sweet moments 03:24 – Motherhood: balancing work and family 08:00 – The challenges of being a stay-at-home mom 18:26 – Navigating postpartum and breastfeeding 33:24 – The mental load of activities and busy schedules 35:42 – Finding time for yourself and why it matters 39:27 – The emotional toll of parenting 41:08 – Where faith meets motherhood 43:16 – Gentle parenting and self-regulation 45:50 – The joy and challenge of raising kids 57:02 – The importance of supportive partners 01:00:04 – Closing reflections and gratitude Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles | Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP17 Unity in Crisis: How God Gave Two Brothers a Mission After Hurricane Helene, Part 2
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith, Part 2 In this episode, we sit down with Jordan and Ross to revisit the storm, both literal and spiritual, that shaped their story. From devastating floods in Western North Carolina to the quiet battles no one else could see, they share how faith, community, and surrender carried them through. This is a conversation about the kind of love that shows up in crisis, the unseen toll of leadership, and the legacy of faith that gets passed down through generations. It’s raw, it’s honest, and it’s full of reminders that even in disaster, God is near. We talk about: The beauty of unity when a whole community comes together after loss The handwritten notes that carried more weight than government aid The emotional and spiritual cost of “being strong” in the storm How Ross and Jordan learned to surrender control when it mattered most The way their faith and family history shaped their response to suffering If you’ve ever felt the weight of crisis or wondered if your small act of love could make a difference, this story will remind you that God is in the details, and that healing often happens in community. Episode Timeline: 00:34 When disaster strikes: unity in the middle of loss 02:58 Relief efforts, sacrifice, and showing up for neighbors 04:48 The weight of leadership and the gift of community support 08:40 Why handwritten notes mattered more than aid 12:15 Ongoing recovery and the hidden toll on families 19:02 Private sector vs. government response 24:11 Community strength and preparing for what’s next 27:13 Flexibility, faith, and unexpected helpers 28:37 The rogue side of serving in crisis 31:15 The unseen mental and emotional toll 34:03 Surrender and the journey toward healing 38:16 Carrying legacy: the influence of grandparents 46:58 Living the Gospel in action 48:47 Final reflections and gratitude Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you, your words mean more than you know If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles, Branding + Design by D. Voorheis Designs
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S1:EP16 Unity in Crisis: How God Gave Two Brothers a Mission After Hurricane Helene, Part 1
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this powerful and deeply personal episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Rebecca’s husband Ross and his brother Jordan to share the untold story of how “God showed up” in the wake of Hurricane Helene, not with loud miracles, but through quiet obedience, divine timing, and two brothers who said yes to the assignment placed at their feet. What started as a desperate need in their Western North Carolina hometown became a Spirit-led mission of relief, coordination, and community mobilization. Ross and Jordan walk us through the chaos, the sacred moments, the logistical nightmares, and the unmistakable ways God provided through it all, from strangers showing up unprompted to divine encounters that could only be explained by faith. This episode is a story of unity, service, and surrender, reminding us that when disaster strikes, the Church isn’t a building. It’s a body. It’s us. We talk about: What happened in the hours after Hurricane Helene hit The moment God laid an assignment at their feet How two brothers organized disaster relief with zero experience The power of community when faith meets action Why obedience in chaos can lead to miraculous outcomes If you've ever wondered what it means to say yes before you know how, this one’s for you. Episode Timeline: 00:31 – Special guest intro: Ross & Jordan 01:14 – Life in Boone, NC before the storm 04:18 – Hurricane Helene: when the storm hit 07:56 – Community chaos and early response 14:22 – Saying yes without a plan 22:14 – The challenge of organizing relief 25:53 – Expansion, exhaustion, and divine coordination 28:34 – Setting up a dispatch center 32:05 – Spiritual obedience and personal cost 35:25 – Support from the outside 36:45 – The private sector shows up 45:00 – Miracles, prayer, and the God who multiplies 50:10 – Looking back with gratitude 55:45 – Final reflections + encouragement Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles | Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP15 Midnight Series, Not Crazy, Just Called: What God Showed Us In The Dark
Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this raw and revealing episode, McKenzie and Rebecca open up about the spiritual battles they’ve faced behind closed doors; from haunting dreams and anxiety attacks to moments of deliverance, surrender, and awakening. Through honest storytelling and reflection, they unpack the weight of spiritual warfare, the difference between mental health and spiritual attacks, and how prayer, confession, and community have become lifelines in the battle. This one is deeply personal, and might be just what you need if you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by things you can’t fully explain. We talk about: How spiritual warfare shows up in dreams, fear, and anxiety The link between generational trauma and spiritual strongholds Vulnerability, confession, and the power of speaking it out loud What deliverance can look like in real life (not just church services) The Shepherd’s voice in the middle of spiritual attack If you’ve ever asked yourself “Is this just anxiety, or something more?” this episode is for you. You are not alone in the battle. And you don’t have to fight in silence. Episode Timeline: 00:33 – Personal experiences with spiritual warfare 02:58 – Anxiety and spiritual dreams 08:55 – Struggles with fear, faith, and confusion 13:30 – Breaking chains and the pursuit of deliverance 32:28 – Confessing generational trauma 32:58 – Visions and spiritual encounters 33:38 – Seeking help and facing fears 34:37 – Spiritual warfare and the weapon of prayer 37:58 – Mental health vs. spiritual warfare 39:45 – A shared awakening 40:38 – Finding strength and overcoming isolation 43:54 – A book that resonated deeply 44:57 – The story of Much Afraid 48:12 – The Shepherd’s call and spiritual attacks 52:23 – Final reflections and encouragement 01:00:32 – Closing thoughts Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and YouTube → @momswithacall Visit us at www.momswithacall.com for updates, behind-the-scenes content, and more. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a testimony of faith, healing, or redemption, we’d love to hear from you. Email us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles | Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP14 “Corporate Jesus”, Evan Jevnikar’s Testimony of Science, Shame, and the Savior Who Stayed
Episode Description: Welcome to Moms With A Call, a space for the spiritually curious and the courageously healing. In this deeply personal episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with McKenzie’s husband, Evan Jevnikar (aka @dailydinoguy), for an unfiltered and hope-filled conversation about faith, addiction, identity, and confession. Evan shares his story, from growing up in Arizona and committing to Christianity at a young age, to struggling with pornography addiction, battling suicidal thoughts during COVID, and ultimately finding healing through community, accountability, and God’s relentless love. This isn’t a conversation about perfection. It’s a conversation about honesty. About letting go of the version of “corporate Jesus” we were taught and discovering a God who sees every part of us and stays. We talk about: - Early faith and hidden addictions - Shame, confession, and the power of accountability - The impact of porn addiction on identity and relationships - How paleontology and faith surprisingly align - God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons If you’ve ever felt like your struggle disqualifies you from God’s love, this one’s for you. You are not too far gone. And you’re not alone. Episode Timeline: 00:34 – Special guest intro: Evan Jevnikar 01:44 – Evan's early life and spiritual upbringing 08:35 – High school challenges and broken friendships 16:20 – Searching for identity in college 28:50 – Confession, community, and accountability 44:28 – Judgment, grace, and human imperfection 45:34 – The complexity of pornography addiction 46:20 – Personal reflections on shame and struggle 48:58 – The ripple effects of addiction 51:49 – True faith and finding accountability 54:01 – How paleontology points back to God 01:06:03 – Depression and isolation during COVID 01:11:55 – Facing suicidal thoughts 01:12:24 – Finding hope, healing, and real love 01:19:17 – Final encouragement for those still wrestling Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Show updates and more → www.momswithacall.com Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? Reach out to us at [email protected] Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP13 Midnight Series, Shampoo Bottles & Spiritual Warfare
Show Notes: Welcome back to the Midnight Series where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this vulnerable episode, Rebecca and McKenzie open up about the spiritual warfare they faced in the weeks leading up to launching the podcast and how it shaped everything. From anxiety attacks to demonic encounters, they share what it’s really like to prepare spiritually for something God is calling you into. This isn’t a polished or tidy conversation; it’s an honest one about doubt, fear, surrender, and the power of prayer when everything feels heavy. We talk about: How spiritual warfare shows up in everyday life The pressure, resistance, and fear before saying “yes” to God Why confession, prayer, and truth-telling are essential to growth Childhood spiritual encounters that made a lasting impact The funny (and very real) story of the shampoo bottle moment If you’ve ever felt like following God stirred something in the spiritual realm or made you question if you were “crazy” for feeling it, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone. The battle is real. And so is the One who fights with you. Episode Timeline: 00:33 – Opening prayer and setting the tone 01:49 – Personal experiences with anxiety and spiritual attacks 04:57 – Childhood encounters that shaped spiritual awareness 06:27 – A year of surrender, resistance, and preparation 17:35 – The infamous shampoo bottle incident 28:50 – The moment we knew we had to share 30:15 – Naming anxiety and calling out spiritual warfare 31:47 – The power of prayer, confession, and asking for help 34:52 – Facing doubts, fears, and spiritual resistance 37:33 – What spiritual growth really looks like 42:40 – What we’re learning on the other side 50:34 – Final reflections and encouragement Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP11 Part One: "And God" From Rock Bottom to Redemption, Kellie Griggs Inspiring Journey
Welcome to Moms With A Call, a podcast for the spiritually curious, the tender-hearted, and the ones still figuring it out. In this special episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with their first guest, Kellie Griggs, for an honest and powerful conversation about identity, insecurity, and what it means to return to faith after hitting rock bottom. Kellie opens up about growing up surrounded by strong women, navigating deep struggles with codependency and comparison, and the long journey back to herself, and to God. Together, we talk about the pressure to perform, how social media shapes our sense of worth, and why authentic friendship and surrender are more needed now than ever. We talk about: Growing up strong… but still unsure The quiet weight of insecurity and codependency A rock-bottom moment that cracked everything open Parenting through generational change Church culture, healing, and how to discern your place This is Part 1 of Kellie’s story; raw, relatable, and rooted in grace. Stay tuned for Part 2, where she shares a never-before-told chapter of her journey and how she met her husband. Episode Timeline: 00:33 – Meet our guest: Kellie Griggs 01:20 – Childhood roots and strong women 03:21 – Wrestling with identity and expectations 05:34 – Hitting rock bottom and finding faith 08:50 – Parenting in a new generation 15:05 – A turning point: fully embracing Jesus 32:36 – The book of Genesis and new beginnings 33:20 – God’s sense of humor in her story 33:57 – Navigating church culture and confusion 35:08 – Struggles, grace, and self-discovery 39:57 – The impact of social media on faith + mental health 44:04 – Jealousy, comparison, and letting go 48:33 – Real friendships and spiritual support 59:16 – Church hurt and learning discernment 01:00:44 – Final reflections and Part 2 teaser Connect with Moms With A Call: Follow along on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes content, and more → www.momswithacall.com Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or Amazon Leave a review and tell us how this episode landed — your voice matters here. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a testimony of faith, healing, or transformation, we’d love to hear it. Reach out at [email protected].
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S1:EP12 Part 2: “And God” From Rock Bottom to Redemption, Kellie Griggs Inspiring Journey
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, a podcast for the spiritually curious, the tender-hearted, and the ones still figuring it out. In this second part of her story, Kellie Griggs invites us into a beautiful and hard-earned love story; one marked by deep faith, unexpected challenges, and the kind of perseverance that can only come from God. Kellie shares how she met her husband Sterling at church, and how their relationship grew through seasons of doubt, healing, and pursuit. From overcoming insecurities to navigating Sterling’s life-threatening health battle, this episode is a powerful testament to love refined through fire, and the strength found in community, prayer, and God’s provision. We also explore Kellie’s incredible journey in the field of nursing, including a pivotal (and humbling) moment meeting President George W. Bush, and the ways she’s continued to use her voice to advocate for others. We talk about: Meeting Sterling and learning to receive love Walking through health crises as a young couple The power of therapy, communication, and community Becoming a nurse and a voice for the unheard Surrendering control and trusting God in the unknown If you’ve ever questioned your capacity to hold it all together, this episode is your reminder that you were never meant to. God holds it with you. Episode Timeline: 00:56 – Navigating new faith and friendships 03:33 – Sterling’s persistent pursuit 04:15 – Overcoming self-doubt and embracing love 09:32 – Balancing family and future dreams 12:29 – Kellie’s journey through nursing and advocacy 29:06 – Stepping into leadership and new beginnings 32:36 – Building a strong spiritual foundation 33:03 – Therapy, healing, and the gift of community 33:27 – Struggles, realizations, and deeper surrender 36:07 – Marriage and communication in real life 37:27 – Sterling’s unexpected medical crisis 41:46 – The community that carried them 44:49 – Facing fears and holding onto hope 50:09 – Miraculous recovery and what it taught them 01:04:42 – The meaning of true surrender Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com
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S1:EP10 Midnight Series, Two Moms, One Call: The Story Behind Our Spiritual Connection
Welcome to the very first episode of the Midnight Series a space for late-night conversations about the things we’re usually too tired (or too afraid) to say out loud. In this cozy kickoff, Rebecca and McKenzie invite you into their story of two women brought together during Hurricane Helene relief efforts who had no idea that God was planting the seeds of something much bigger. From building a nonprofit to walking through spiritual disillusionment, they share how an unlikely friendship, full of honest conversations and hesitant obedience, turned into a podcast that’s all about faith, surrender, and storytelling. This episode sets the tone for what’s to come: real stories from ordinary people with extraordinary God moments. If you’ve ever felt the nudge to say “yes” before you felt ready, this one’s for you. What We Talk About: The challenge of recording their very first virtual episode How Hurricane Helene unexpectedly brought them together Starting a nonprofit and the spiritual questions that followed Honest thoughts on surrender, spiritual warfare, and obedience Why Moms With A Call isn’t just a podcast… it’s a calling Episode Timeline: 00:46 First Virtual Episode Challenges 01:50 How We Met: The Hurricane Helene Story 03:38 Building the Nonprofit Together 05:28 First In-Person Meeting 06:24 Spiritual Conversations and Connections 14:14 The Birth of the Podcast Idea 21:51 Launching Moms with a Call 24:31 Spiritual Warfare and Surrender 28:54 Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a powerful testimony? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by D. Voorheis Designs
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S1:EP9 Rebecca’s Testimony Part 4: The New Garden
Welcome to Moms With A Call, a place where healing unfolds one story at a time. In this final part of her four-part testimony, Rebecca shares how her slow, deeply personal return to faith became rooted in motherhood, scripture, and the quiet presence of a gentle God. What began in spiritual darkness has turned into something steady and sacred. Using the garden metaphor first introduced in Part 1, Rebecca reflects on how becoming a mother, reconnecting with her husband Ross, and engaging with the Bible began to till the hardened soil of her heart. Her faith didn’t come rushing in—it grew slowly, quietly, and often through unexpected moments: nursing her daughter Phoebe, feeling seen by scripture, and realizing that Jesus wasn’t a distant judge but a present, compassionate gardener. We talk about: The quiet beauty of spiritual awakening How unplanned pregnancy opened the door to purpose Breastfeeding, bonding, and the sacredness of motherhood A love story that grew through surrender and support Jesus as a gardener—nurturing, patient, and present This episode is a love letter to anyone who wonders if it's too late, too complicated, or too broken for faith to take root again. It’s not. There’s still time. And you are deeply seen. Episode Timeline 00:32 – The power of testimonies and authentic storytelling 01:51 – A slow and quiet spiritual awakening 03:06 – An unexpected pregnancy changes everything 04:28 – The sacred initiation into motherhood 05:58 – Reframing faith through fresh eyes 18:42 – Meeting Ross and the healing of true partnership 24:48 – A tangent… but a good one about her husband 25:17 – Saying yes to motherhood 27:45 – The early, raw days with baby Phoebe 29:21 – The curiosity of breastfeeding and connection 31:25 – A new beginning grounded in grace 33:02 – Reconnecting with scripture and a deeper peace 38:51 – Phoebe’s sweet spiritual sensitivity 44:04 – Peace, healing, and a God who tends gardens 45:18 – Final thoughts and closing reflections Connect with Moms With A Call Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/momswithacall Website: https://www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you Share your story: [email protected] Credits: Intro/Outro Music by Jason Bowles. Branding & Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:EP8 Rebecca’s Testimony Part 3: The Pit
Welcome to Moms With A Call, a space where nothing is too messy for grace. In this raw and courageous episode, Rebecca shares Part 3 of her testimony—a chapter she calls “The Pit,” a season marked by anxiety, spiritual numbness, and a desperate search for relief. Together, McKenzie and Rebecca talk about what it feels like to spiral, when freedom turns into disconnection, when panic attacks steal your breath, and when religion feels more like a weight than a refuge. Rebecca speaks honestly about turning away from spiritual guidance, navigating therapy and medication, and the slow, painful unraveling of who she thought she was. This is not a story of resolution—it’s a story of being in the thick of it. And it’s for anyone who has ever whispered, “Where is God in this?” We talk about: The emotional and physical toll of anxiety What happens when we reject the version of God we were given Shame, self-protection, and spiritual detachment The fears and freedom found in therapy and medication How parents show up in our most fragile moments You are not alone in the pit. There is a God who sees in the dark, and this episode is a sacred reminder of that. Episode Timeline 00:35 – The Pit begins: a dark season of the soul 05:59 – The rising tide of anxiety 15:45 – Rejecting religion, still yearning for truth 21:07 – “Life Without Me” – intrusive thoughts and fear 21:39 – Wrestling with therapy and medication 22:52 – The weight of mental health and spiritual crisis 25:06 – When numbness replaces faith 26:29 – Self-destruction and seeking escape 32:35 – How her parents responded in the chaos 36:07 – Final reflections and an invitation for the hurting Connect with Moms With A Call Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/momswithacall Website: https://www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you Share your story: [email protected] Credits: Intro/Outro Music by Jason Bowles. Branding & Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:EP7 Rebecca’s Testimony Part 2: The Stone
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where honest faith meets real life. In Part 2 of her testimony, Rebecca opens up about her early years, growing up in a home where one parent loved Jesus and the other had no relationship with Him. That duality created both safety and confusion—a tension many listeners will find deeply relatable. Together, McKenzie and Rebecca unpack how childhood labels like “too sensitive” can shape our self-worth, how well-meaning family dynamics can still leave emotional imprints, and how early encounters with religion can either draw us in or push us away. This episode gently holds the in-between—the place where questions begin and identity is quietly forming. We talk about: Growing up between two spiritual worldviews Sensitivity, emotional awareness, and how they’re often misunderstood The complexity of loving family members who also cause pain Parenting with gentleness and grace in light of our own stories How disconnection from the Church shaped her faith journey This is a tender chapter of Rebecca’s story, one that reminds us that identity isn’t built in a moment—it’s formed in the quiet wrestlings of our becoming. Episode Timeline 00:29 – Beginning of Rebecca’s testimony 00:55 – Being a sensitive child in a divided spiritual home 02:23 – Family dynamics and unspoken challenges 04:19 – Wrestling with faith and self-understanding 08:05 – Feeling labeled and misunderstood 10:10 – Parenting through grace instead of pressure 19:26 – Juggling motherhood and inner healing 21:35 – The tension between calling and caregiving 22:41 – Navigating faith and family loyalty 27:31 – When teenage years bring faith into question 33:12 – The moment of disconnection from religion 39:49 – Final reflections + preview of Part 3 Connect with Moms With A Call Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/momswithacall Website: https://www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you Share your story: [email protected] Credits: Intro/Outro Music by Jason Bowles. Branding & Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:EP6 Rebecca’s Testimony Part 1: The Garden
Welcome to Moms With A Call, a podcast for the spiritually curious and the courageously healing. In this sacred episode, Rebecca invites us into the beginning of her testimony, using the metaphor of The Garden to gently unpack the layers of emotional survival, dissociation, and the long road toward healing. Through honest conversation and reflection, Rebecca explores what it means to live in self-protection mode, to build inner walls, mask pain with control, and settle for the illusion of peace. It is also a story of breakthrough: stepping out of the “secret garden” we build to survive and into the grace-filled wilderness where God does His most tender work. We talk about: The garden as both refuge and prison Anxiety, panic, and the illusion of control Dissociation as a coping mechanism What true peace feels like when we finally let go The moment surrender begins, even if imperfectly This episode is for anyone who has ever felt like they were keeping it all together on the outside but falling apart on the inside. There is room for you here. Timestamps 01:19 – Introducing The Garden metaphor 02:11 – Rebecca shares her story of emotional survival 04:55 – Honest reflection and the cost of dissociation 08:37 – The secret garden and internal boundaries 13:08 – Surrendering control and learning what peace really is 17:17 – A preview of what is to come in Part 2 Connect with Moms With A Call Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/momswithacall Website: https://www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you. Share your story: [email protected] Credits: Intro/Outro Music by Jason Bowles. Branding & Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:E5 Unraveled, McKenzie’s Testimony Part 4: A New Beginning
Welcome back to Moms With A Call, a space for the tender, the wrestling, and the spiritually curious. In this deeply vulnerable episode, McKenzie shares the final chapter of her personal testimony. What unfolds is a vulnerable and redemptive reflection on emotional abuse, family betrayal, religious trauma, and the long journey back to a God who never left. Through spiritual exploration, heartbreak, and a quiet but powerful encounter with Jesus, McKenzie walks us through how grace found her in the wreckage. This conversation invites anyone who’s ever questioned their worth, their faith, or their place in the Church to take a deep breath and know healing is possible, and you’re not alone. We talk about: Living with trauma guilt and the weight of silence Wrestling with religious hurt and the fear of surrender The difference between manmade religion and the radical love of Jesus What Scripture reveals in seasons of spiritual warfare How true Christianity welcomes, includes, and restores This one is full of hope. And we pray it meets you where you are. 01:38 God's Presence in Dark Times 05:54 Spiritual Exploration and Revelation 09:44 The Power of Scripture 17:42 The Importance of Surrender 26:13 Exploring Other Religions 27:27 The Magnitude of Jesus' Sacrifice 31:01 Hope in Promises Amidst a Terrifying World 31:36 Understanding the Living Word 35:15 Manifestation and Spiritual Exploration 40:40 Inclusivity in Christianity 44:46 Judgment and Religious Superiority Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & Youtube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you, your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles, Branding by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:E4 Unraveled, McKenzie’s Testimony Part 3: Battles and Healing
Welcome to Moms With A Call, where we hold space for the hard, the holy, and the in-between. In this unflinchingly honest episode, McKenzie shares Part 3 of her personal testimony: a chapter marked by health battles, spiritual struggle, and the deep ache of postpartum depression. This conversation unfolds the lived experience of PCOS, severe pregnancy complications, family conflict, and the emotional toll of navigating motherhood in the dark. McKenzie speaks candidly about her diagnosis, hospitalizations, and what it meant to find God not in the absence of pain, but in the middle of it. Her story is an invitation to every woman who’s ever whispered “I can’t do this” to know: you are not alone, and God is not far. We talk about: The reality of postpartum depression and OCD PCOS diagnosis and the journey to healing Family conflict, emotional wounds, and boundary-setting Navigating severe morning sickness and medical misdiagnoses What faith looks like when it’s hanging by a thread This is a sacred and tender listen for anyone walking through postpartum, chronic illness, or spiritual confusion, or supporting someone who is. 01:29 The tension between health and faith 02:48 Pregnancy and family dynamics 07:21 The weight of postpartum struggle 24:42 When family conflict crosses lines 29:41 Diagnosing PCOS and the emotional aftermath 43:58 Misdiagnosis: the challenge of being unheard 45:32 Trying acupuncture and holistic healing 47:11 Hospitalization, stress, and family pressure 55:45 The psychological impact postpartum 01:03:58 Depression, OCD, and seeking support 01:06:07 Forgiveness, healing, and spiritual renewal 01:09:45 A word to new moms Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & Youtube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you, your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles, Branding by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:E3 Unraveled, McKenzie’s Testimony Part 2: Stages and Ages
Welcome to Moms With A Call, where we make space for the mess, the mystery, and the movement of God. In Part 2 of her testimony, McKenzie shares a tender, truth-filled glimpse into one of the most transformative seasons of her life: falling in love, facing family rejection, and rebuilding her faith in the middle of it all. This episode explores how the quiet and isolation of lockdown opened the door to spiritual curiosity, and how meeting Evan sparked both connection and questions. McKenzie shares what it was like to navigate new love, spiritual deconstruction, and judgment from the Church, including a painful encounter with a pastor that left a lasting mark. Through it all, McKenzie reflects on what it means to stay soft when life feels hard, and how God’s love can weave strength into even the most fragile seasons. We talk about: Navigating love and marriage in the chaos of 2020 The beauty and challenge of falling in love while questioning faith How family wounds impact faith and identity The ache of feeling unwelcome in religious spaces Financial hardship and grace in unexpected places Choosing gratitude, even when it hurts If you’ve ever struggled to hold on to your faith when it felt easier to let go, this one’s for you. 01:55 Meeting my husband during a global pandemic 08:32 Early marriage, high stakes, and complicated family dynamics 17:07 Church hurt and the unraveling of spiritual safety 24:57 When betrayal meets financial strain 29:48 Resilience and redemption 34:37 Engagement and church challenges 37:07 Experiencing church hurt 42:59 Struggles with purity culture 50:36 Newlywed bliss and family crisis 51:03 Reconciling faith and marriage Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & Youtube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you, your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles, Branding by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:E2 Unraveled, McKenzie’s Testimony Part 1: The Beginning
Unraveled, McKenzie’s Testimony Part 1: Faith, Pain, and Perseverance Welcome to Moms With A Call, a space where we honor the wrestle, the wonder, and the quiet work of God in our stories. In this opening episode of McKenzie’s four-part testimony, we begin at the beginning, growing up in a religious home, battling anxiety behind closed doors, and longing for a version of faith that felt more like love and less like fear. This is a story of emotional abuse, family betrayal, toxic relationships, and the aching question: Where is God in all of this? From a stormy night and a desperate prayer to the slow, painful work of healing, McKenzie invites us into a deeply personal journey of faith that didn’t follow the rules, but led to real redemption. We talk about: Growing up in a performative faith culture The hidden weight of anxiety and pressure Toxic relationships, identity loss, and control A turning point that began in the middle of a breakdown What it means to return to God after deep disillusionment This episode is for anyone who’s ever wondered if their story is too messy to matter to God. 02:39 A religious upbringing filled with pressure 04:40 Silent struggles with anxiety 12:26 College years and relationship red flags 23:55 The breakup that broke everything open 37:34 Reflections, self-awareness, and growth 52:58 Wrestling with Catholic identity 56:18 Challenges in Catholic school culture 57:47 Faith, friendship, and figuring it out 01:04:21 Questioning belief systems in college 01:17:01 The shift and what’s coming next Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & Youtube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you, your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles, Branding + Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/
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S1:E1 Welcome to Moms With A Call: A Messy Podcast for The Spiritually Curious
Welcome to the very first episode of Moms With A Call, a podcast for the ones who’ve been judged, wounded, or just worn out by religion. Hosted by McKenzie and Rebecca, two moms with messy stories and hearts hungry for more, this is a space where faith is explored with honesty, curiosity, and compassion. In this debut episode, we’re pulling back the curtain on why we started this podcast, what we’ve walked through, and why “surrender” is the heartbeat of Season One. Whether you're deep in the trenches of motherhood, deconstructing faith, or just looking for a soft place to land, this table was set with you in mind. We talk about: Why we believe presence matters more than perfection The stories and struggles that led us to say “yes” to this call What it means to wrestle with God and still belong The sacredness of testimony and why we’re not here to preach What to expect from our first season, Surrender, and the special Midnight Series This is your invitation to pull up a chair, take a breath, and feel a little less alone. 00:32 Creating a safe space for all stories 01:49 The heart behind this podcast 03:01 Introducing Season One: Surrender 04:58 The messy, meaningful road to launching this podcast 13:30 Why we believe in the power of testimony 17:45 What “surrender” looks like in our lives 20:20 Introducing our Midnight Series 22:53 A final word and a prayer for the road ahead Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & Youtube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you, your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at [email protected]. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles
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Trailer: Moms With A Call
Moms With A Call is a spiritual landing place for those who’ve been hurt by religion, are questioning their faith, or just want something more real. In this honest and tender podcast trailer, McKenzie and Rebecca invite you into a season of surrender, sharing raw stories of grief, healing, and transformation from everyday people encountering an extraordinary God. Come as you are, there’s a seat for you here.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
A messy podcast for the spiritually curious. We’re not rewriting Christianity, we’re getting back to the heart of it; because it’s about relationships, not religion. This isn’t a space for preaching. This is a space for presence. For stories. For wrestling. For quiet hope. We're here to plant seeds, not push agendas. So if you’re tired of feeling like your story doesn’t fit inside a church box…If you’ve ever wondered if you could still be loved by God after everything you've been through… Or if you’re just looking for something real, grounded, or different...Come have a seat ↓
HOSTED BY
McKenzie Jevnikar & Rebecca Rowan
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