Wealth Beyond Riches

The world is changing faster than any organization can keep up with. The question isn't whether to adapt — it's whether you have a framework for it, or whether you're just reacting until you burn out. Chuck Bomar is back for part two. This time we go deep on the framework behind his new book Pivot Now — what's actually happening culturally and socially that's leaving leaders disoriented, why the old models for understanding how people relate to faith and identity no longer hold, and what leaders in churches and businesses need to do differently before they inadvertently strangle their own mission trying to protect their methods. We also talk about why your team shuts down when you ideate out loud, the difference between ideas and vision, why clarity beats hustle every time, and what it actually looks like to lead people through complexity without adding to their anxiety. This episode is for any leader who's felt the ground shifting and isn't sure whether to hold on tighter or let go. What We Learned We can't keep up with the pace of change, but we can become change-ready — and those are completely different postures Algorithmic curation has created a decoupled, fragmented society where identity, beliefs, practices, and affiliations no longer hold together the way they used to — and that person is walking through your doors every day When you conflate truth with method, you risk choking your mission trying to protect your model Clarity is greater than hustle — leaders who can't clearly articulate the why behind a change shouldn't say anything yet Ideating around too many people is one of the most common and costly leadership mistakes — people treat your brainstorm like it's vision Tying any change announcement to mission first is one of the most disarming and effective leadership moves available to you Participation does not equal transformation — and finishing a process doesn't either The tighter you hold on to your methods, the more at risk your mission becomes Resources Mentioned Pivot Now: Mastering Change for the Sake of Our Mission by Chuck Bomar — The book behind this entire conversation. A framework for understanding what's happening culturally, how to lead your organization through change without losing the mission, and why staying the same might be the biggest threat you face. Death by Lightning — Netflix miniseries Tim mentions he's been watching, based on the life and assassination of President James Garfield. Destiny of the Republic by Candice Millard — The book the Netflix series is based on. Tim is currently reading it. The story of James Garfield's rise from poverty to the presidency and the dramatic events that followed. Fire Within by Fr. Thomas Dubay — Chuck's current read. A deep dive into the prayer lives of St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross, and what their commitment to personal connection with God looks like for any Christian. Convoy of Hope — Humanitarian organization mentioned in passing from Chuck's Part 1 story. One of the largest disaster relief organizations in the world. Produced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.com

PODCAST DESCRIPTION Most business owners say they're building a company. Chuck Bomar says he's building people and using a company to do it. That one shift changes everything — who you hire, why you stay up at night, and what success actually looks like when you close your eyes. Chuck is a pastor, entrepreneur, author, and former President and CEO of Barna Group. He's bought and operated over a dozen companies across delivery, transportation, commercial mechanics, and in-home care. He's also had a partner commit fraud and land in prison. He's sold companies back to the people who ran them for what he originally paid — not what they'd grown to be worth. And now he's written a book that brings all of it together. We talk about what it looks like to run a business from a faith framework that isn't just a label, why economic mobility is the fastest path to social mobility, and how Chuck went from living rooms full of disoriented pastors to a book that finally gave language to what they were all feeling. What We Learned Building a business around people instead of using people to build a business is a completely different operating system — and it shows in retention, loyalty, and culture Caring for the whole person at work isn't a charity project; it's a strategy that creates the kind of trust most companies spend years trying to manufacture Selling a company back to the person who grew it — at your original purchase price — is one of the most tangible ways to break a cycle of generational poverty When your faith is decoupled from your business model, you don't sleep as well. Integration creates a settling that performance alone can't There's a weariness in church leaders that sleep doesn't fix — and it's not a strategy problem, it's a language problem. Most of them don't have words for what they're sensing The best ideas don't start as books. Chuck's started as a stick of dynamite dropped in living rooms full of pastors — and a guilt trip that made him write it down Resources Mentioned Pivot Now: Mastering Change for the Sake of Our Mission by Chuck Bomar — Chuck's new book giving pastors and ministry leaders language for the cultural shift happening around them and a framework for leading their organizations through change without compromising the mission. Convoy of Hope — The humanitarian organization Chuck partnered with to bring his framework on church change to pastors across the country. One of the largest disaster relief organizations in the world, with a facility capable of producing a billion meals a year. Produced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.com

div]:bg-bg-000/50 [&_pre>div]:border-0.5 [&_pre>div]:border-border-400 [&_.ignore-pre-bg>div]:bg-transparent [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8"> _*]:min-w-0 gap-3 standard-markdown"> What if the problem isn't what you're saying, but why you're saying it? In part two of this conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer picks up right where things left off with Jason VanRuler, therapist, coach, and author. This time they go deep into Jason's new book, Discovering Your Communication Type, built around five distinct styles: Peacemaker, Advocate, Thinker, Harbor, and Spark. Jason breaks down each type, helps Tim figure out his own on air, and gets into how understanding these styles can completely change the way you lead, love, and resolve conflict. They also talk about why teams full of conflict-averse people struggle to make hard decisions, why the same words land completely differently depending on who's hearing them, and why being a student of the people around you might be the most underrated leadership skill there is. If you've ever walked away from a conversation feeling completely misunderstood, this one will help you figure out why. What You'll Learn The five communication types (PATHS) and how to identify your primary and secondary style. Why you default to your type under pressure and how that creates conflict in relationships you care about. How to apply this framework to your team and why employee turnover is often a communication mismatch problem. The difference between speaking someone's language and manipulating them and why intention is everything. How Enneagram types map to communication styles and what that reveals about the wounds behind the way we talk. Three things that change every relationship — listen to what people say, understand why it matters, and honor it. Chapters 00:00 The Intent Behind Communication 02:56 Discovering Communication Types 05:50 Understanding the Five Communication Styles 08:47 Navigating Communication Under Pressure 12:08 The Role of Intention in Communication 14:52 Applying Communication Types in Leadership 17:49 Building Effective Team Communication 21:08 The Impact of Background on Communication 24:01 Healthy Relationships and Communication 26:52 Practical Tips for Conflict Conversations 30:12 The Joy of Making and Creating Resources Mentioned Discovering Your Communication Type by Jason VanRuler — The book at the center of this conversation. Five communication styles, why you default to yours under pressure, and how to use that knowledge to strengthen every relationship in your life. Releases April 14, 2026. The Enneagram — Referenced by Jason as a companion framework to understanding communication types and the deeper "why" behind how people show up. CliftonStrengths (StrengthsFinder) — Mentioned as part of the team training framework Tim's team has worked through alongside Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram. Five Daughters Bakery — Nashville's legendary cronut shop, name-dropped by Jason as his go-to donut destination when he's in the city.                  

What if the thing holding you back isn't a lack of answers, but a lack of permission? In this conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Jason VanRuler, therapist, coach, and author, to talk about what it actually looks like to work with leaders under pressure. Jason's path to this work started with a 3.98 GPA, a rejection from a private practice internship, and an unexpected stint working inside a prison system. What he found there changed everything. They talk about the hidden cost of always being the one who gives, why self-awareness can feel like a burden before it becomes a gift, and why leaders who claim to need nothing are actually the hardest people to love. If you're at an inflection point, whether that's a career shift, a business transition, or a relationship that's running on fumes, this one's for you. What You'll Learn Why your outer world can't fix your inner world and the belief most high performers were handed as kids that keeps them stuck. How to find clarity in a season of transition by starting with the rules you were taught about how the world works. Why leaders who "don't need anything" stall out and what measured vulnerability actually looks like on a team. The permission problem and why most people already know what to do. What Jason learned in prison about how people change when no one around them cares if they do. Why being hard to love is a leadership problem not just a personal one. CHAPTERS 00:00 The Importance of Needs in Leadership 02:50 Jason Van Ruler: A Journey to Therapy and Coaching 06:12 Working with Leaders Under Pressure 09:01 Understanding the Curated Self 11:59 The Challenge of Self-Awareness 15:09 Vulnerability and Generosity in Leadership 17:59 Navigating Career Transitions Resources Mentioned Discovering Your Communication Type by Jason VanRuler — Jason's new book releasing April 14, 2026, built around five communication styles (PATHS) and why understanding them transforms your relationships and leadership. The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis — The book Jason references when he talks about the risk of letting people in. Lewis writes that to love at all is to be vulnerable, and that the only alternative is a kind of slow, self-made isolation.

If your child's future job doesn't even exist yet, what should school be preparing them for? In this continuation of the conversation with Dr. Tom Stoner, the focus shifts from what classical education is to why it matters for the future. As technology accelerates and entire industries rise and fall — from programming to AI — the question becomes urgent: Is education about training for specific careers, or forming the kind of person who can adapt, think, and discern in any career? Tom explains why classical education is not vocational training, but formation. Rather than chasing trends, it develops transferable skills — reading widely, thinking deeply, writing clearly, and synthesizing complex ideas. These abilities prepare students not just for their first job, but for a lifetime of change. The conversation also wrestles with truth in an age of AI and "your truth vs. my truth," exploring why discernment matters more than information and why education must form judgment, not just deliver content. What We Learned Why preparing for jobs that don't yet exist requires deeper formation The difference between vocational training and transferable skills How liberal arts education builds long-term adaptability Why STEM alone cannot future-proof a child The impact of AI on the workforce and why discernment is essential What it means for truth to correspond to reality How moral and spiritual formation shape intellectual development Why education must give students something solid to "push against" How classical education cultivates thinking, not just information absorption Resources Mentioned Repairing the Ruins Plato's Republic C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity The Idea of a Christian School  00:00 Preparing for Unknown Futures 02:51 The Role of Classical Education 05:46 Truth and Education 09:05 The Importance of Shared Morality 11:58 Personal Reflections and Gratitude

Is modern education feeding students intellectual junk food — or cultivating a taste for what lasts? Dr. Tom Stoner joins the conversation to unpack what classical education actually is, why it's growing rapidly across the country, and what shifted in American schooling over the past 75–100 years. From the influence of the Enlightenment to the rise of progressive education, Tom explains how the model changed — and why many families are reconsidering what education is really for. The discussion explores the difference between shallow coverage and deep engagement, why classic literature has endured for centuries, and how students develop intellectual appetite by wrestling with meaningful ideas. Together, they examine what it means to "read widely, think deeply, and write well," and why cultivating discernment and truth matters more than simply delivering information. This episode challenges parents and grandparents to consider a deeper question: What kind of formation will actually help a child flourish — not just academically, but intellectually, morally, and spiritually? What We Learned Why classical education dominated for centuries before the progressive shift How Enlightenment thinking reshaped American schooling The difference between going deep on fewer ideas vs. covering many topics superficially Why classic literature stands the test of time How intellectual appetite is cultivated — not assumed The importance of grammar, spelling, and clear writing in a digital age Why asking better questions develops deeper thinkers The role of wrestling with ideas in authentic learning How Christian education integrates worldview, morality, and meaning Why transferable skills matter more than training for rapidly changing careers Resources Mentioned Repairing the Ruins Plato's Republic C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity The Idea of a Christian School  00:00 The Appetite for Quality Literature 01:47 Understanding Classical Education 07:58 The Shift from Traditional to Progressive Education 12:42 The Importance of Classic Literature 17:13 Deep Learning in Classical Education 21:29 Integrating Faith and Learning 27:24 Flourishing Through Education

Welcome back to the second half of this powerful conversation with pastor and author Steve Carter. In this episode, Steve and host Tim Meisenheimer pivot from the pain of transition to the surprising power of generosity and the "weird, mysterious, but lovely" way that grief and hope can coexist. Steve challenges the cultural definition of hope—once viewed by the Romans as a "mental illness"—and reclaims it as a certainty anchored in the resurrection. The conversation then moves to a masterclass on generosity, backed by both scripture and science. Steve breaks down the "happiness trifecta"—how giving releases dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin while pushing away the stress hormone cortisol . They discuss why generous people live longer, the often-overlooked "Fourth T" of stewardship, and how a simple act of buying a donut can shift the spiritual atmosphere of a room. If you want to know why it is truly "more blessed to give than to receive," this episode provides the data and the soul to back it up. What We Learned Grieving with Hope: Based on 1 Thessalonians 4:13, we don't grieve like the rest of the world; we grieve with hope, allowing pain and expectation to exist in the same space. Hope is Not Wishful Thinking: While we often use "hope" to mean uncertainty (e.g., hoping for no traffic), biblical hope is the confident expectation that if the tomb is empty, anything is possible. The Happiness Trifecta: Generosity isn't just a moral good; it's a biological hack. Consistent giving releases dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin, effectively fighting off the body's stress response. The Volunteer Advantage: Studies from Stanford show that people who are generous with their time live, on average, four years longer than those who aren't. The 4th "T" of Generosity: Beyond Time, Talent, and Treasure, we are called to be generous with our Testimony—sharing the story of what God has done in our lives. Generosity vs. Control: You are either building the "musculature" of generosity or the prison of control. Generosity leads to freedom and lightness, while control leads to stress and suspicion. Generosity of Spirit: A story about a broken credit card machine at a donut shop illustrates how small acts of kindness can diffuse anger and "shift the atmosphere" for everyone present. Resources Mentioned Herman Miller / Mike Volkema  Ace Hardware / John Venhuizen  CDW / Tom Richards  Chapters 00:00 – Introduction & The "Harder Right" 02:46 – Why Rome Thought Hope Was a "Mental Illness" 04:00 – Biblical Hope: Certainty vs. Optimism 07:00 – The Science of Generosity: The Happiness Trifecta 10:20 – Why Volunteers Live Longer 11:36 – The 4th T: Generosity of Testimony 13:14 – Generosity vs. The Idol of Control 15:58 – Leaders Who Model Generosity (Herman Miller, Ace, CDW) 19:05 – The Spunky Dunkers Story: Generosity of Spirit 22:30 – What Steve & Tim Are Loving Right Now

A leadership calling can unravel faster than anyone expects. Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Steve Carter, bestselling author and former lead teaching pastor at Willow Creek, to talk about integrity, grief, and what it means to choose the right path when the cost is public, painful, and personal. Steve shares the story of preparing to step into one of the most visible church leadership roles in the country—only to watch it dissolve as scandal surfaced around his mentor and organization. In the middle of uncertainty, pressure, and loss, Steve was forced to confront a defining question: Would he choose what was easier, or what was right? Anchored by the West Point Cadet Prayer's line "help us to choose the harder right," the conversation explores how values like integrity, humility, wisdom, and discernment become essential guides when fear clouds decision-making. Steve also opens up about grief—why you can't achieve your way out of it, why silence matters, and how seasons of waiting often become the soil where transformation takes root. This conversation is for leaders, parents, and high-capacity people navigating loss, transition, or disappointment—and looking for a way forward that doesn't cost them their soul. What We Learned Why choosing the right thing is often hardest when identity and security are at stake How values act as filters when fear and pressure distort decision-making Why integrity is formed long before it's publicly tested Why grief cannot be solved through productivity or achievement How unprocessed grief quietly turns into resentment The importance of honoring grief rather than rushing past it How the framework of Good Friday, Silent Saturday, and Easter Sunday shapes a healthy theology of loss and hope Why waiting is not wasted time, even when answers don't come quickly How children and families learn courage by watching adults choose integrity What surrender looks like when the future remains unclear Resources Mentioned Grieve, Breathe, Receive — Steve Carter A book on grief, loss, and learning how to receive life again after disappointment. The Thing Beneath the Thing — Steve Carter Exploring the deeper drivers beneath behavior, leadership, and decision-making. The West Point Cadet Prayer Referenced for the line: "Help us to choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong."   00:00 Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches  01:02 Steve's Journey: From Dream Job to Crisis 02:58 Lessons from Career Transitions  04:59 The Harder Right: Integrity and Legacy  13:36 Guiding Values: Curiosity and Humility  20:07 Developing and Assessing Resources  22:02 Learning to Grieve  27:53 The Power of Surrender 31:23 Preparing for Transitions 

In Part 2 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer and Justin Whitmel Earley shift from habits and formation into the deeply human realities of business, leadership, generosity, and trust. Justin pulls back the curtain on what really happens when people buy, sell, or transition businesses — and why the hardest parts are rarely technical. Drawing from his work as a business attorney and firm owner, Justin explains why the best outcomes come from building the right team early: trusted advisors, honest friends, and spiritual mentors who can help carry the emotional and ethical weight of major decisions. The conversation moves from contracts to character, from delegation to humility, and from financial planning to generosity. Justin shares how his parents modeled generosity through time and presence, how his wife Lauren shaped the way their family thinks about giving, and why intentional rhythms — from delegation to morning coffee — can become anchors of joy and gratitude in a demanding life. This episode is a reminder that wealth, work, and leadership are never just about money — they are about people, limits, trust, and the kind of life you are quietly building every day. What We Learned Selling a business is deeply emotional — preparation isn't just financial, it's relational and spiritual. The best business owners build teams early — including a great accountant, wealth advisor, attorney, trusted friend, and spiritual mentor. Legal structures are meant to preserve trust — contracts exist to steward relationships, not replace them. You can either control everything or grow — healthy growth requires delegation and surrender. Good habits and good leadership share the same foundation — admitting your limits and asking for help. Generosity is most often modeled, not announced — especially through time, presence, and attention. Giving requires intentional planning — thoughtful generosity often needs as much strategy as saving or investing. Joy is found in embodiment — daily rituals like movement, rest, writing by hand, or making coffee can reawaken gratitude. Healthy ambition has guardrails — growth should never come at the cost of people, integrity, or family. Life is formed through practices — small, repeated actions shape who we become far more than intentions.  Resources Mentioned The Body Teaches the Soul — Justin Whitmel Earley A book on embodied habits and spiritual formation. https://a.co/d/g0Gwszb  The Common Rule — Justin Whitmel Earley A practical framework for daily and weekly rhythms. https://a.co/d/cUo0gKH  Habits of the Household — Justin Whitmel Earley Applying habit formation to family and parenting. https://a.co/d/7WEib8c  Made for People — Justin Whitmel Earley Rebuilding friendship and community in adulthood. https://a.co/d/iZvLQ0N  Analog Weekly Planner (Ink + Volt) Referenced as a tool for reflection and intentional planning. http://www.inkandvolt.com  AeroPress Coffee Maker Mentioned as part of Justin's morning ritual and embodied joy. http://www.aeropress.com  Sparrow Coffee (Chicago) Coffee brand referenced during the conversation. http://www.sparrowcoffee.com   00:00 The Human Side of Corporate Law 01:27 Building a Business Team 06:43 The Emotional Journey of Selling a Business 10:18 Fostering Trust in Transactions 12:07 The Challenge of Team Building 18:15 Growth with Integrity 19:44 The Impact of Generosity 26:15 Finding Joy in Simple Pleasures

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Justin Whitmel Earley—business lawyer, author, former missionary, and habit-builder—to explore why lasting change doesn't start with willpower or ideas, but with practices. Justin shares how an intense season of anxiety and burnout early in his legal career forced him to confront a painful disconnect between what he believed and how he was actually living. Though his theology and values were strong, his habits—sleep, work pace, phone use, rest, and embodiment—were quietly shaping him into someone he didn't want to become. Together, Tim and Justin unpack why modern life trains us toward busyness, isolation, and disintegration, and why recovery doesn't come from "thinking harder" but from rebuilding small, faithful rhythms. From keystone habits and embodied spirituality to friendship, movement, and reflection, this conversation offers a hopeful path for anyone who feels stretched between success and sanity. What We Learned You don't notice habits—but they notice you Habits operate beneath awareness, quietly shaping who we become over time. You can't think your way out of a life you practiced your way into Change happens at the level of daily rhythms, not intentions alone. Habits form the bridge between belief and experience When habits and values are misaligned, anxiety and fragmentation often follow. Keystone habits create outsized impact Small practices—like exercise, reflection, or honest friendship—can reshape sleep, health, finances, and emotional life. The body teaches the soul Physical habits (sleep, movement, rest) are not separate from spiritual formation—they are central to it. Culture trains us more than we realize Busyness, phone-checking, and constant productivity are learned norms, not neutral behaviors. Community accelerates change Even one trusted relationship marked by honesty can radically improve emotional and spiritual health. Reflection is a leadership discipline Reading, journaling, prayer, and engaging "old wisdom" create clarity in a distracted world. Resources Mentioned The Body Teaches the Soul Justin's newest book exploring the connection between physical habits and spiritual formation. https://a.co/d/g0Gwszb  The Common Rule A practical framework for building daily and weekly habits that foster stability and depth. https://a.co/d/cUo0gKH  Habits of the Household Applying habit formation to family life, parenting, and the home. https://a.co/d/7WEib8c  Made for People A guide to rebuilding friendship and community in adulthood. https://a.co/d/iZvLQ0N  Keystone Habits (Behavioral Science Concept) Small practices that trigger widespread positive change (e.g., exercise, reflection, relational honesty). Vizio Divina / Lectio Divina Ancient Christian practices of reflecting prayerfully on visual art or Scripture as a way of shaping attention and desire. 00:00 Choosing the Harder Right 03:07 Navigating Career Transitions 06:03 The Importance of Values 08:53 Integrity and Trust 12:12 Grief and Its Role in Transition 15:06 Curiosity and Humility in Leadership 18:00 Adjusting Expectations 20:51 The Process of Grieving 23:49 The Holy Weekend Metaphor 26:47 Experiencing God's Goodness 30:10 Strength in Surrender 33:01 The Journey of Transition

In Part 2 of this conversation with Riley Fuller, we move from origin story to impact story — the daily, tangible work of Humanity & Hope United and what Riley has learned about leadership, hope, and living generously. Riley and Tim Meisenheimer explore how his leadership shifted from managing by force in the corporate world to leading as a servant — listening first, empowering others, and building leaders in the communities he serves. Riley explains how his team measures hope scientifically, how generational poverty is being broken through education, entrepreneurship, and leadership development, and why joy and responsibility can exist side by side. This episode is a practical, inspiring look at what happens when holy ambition grows into a movement: homes rebuilt, businesses launched, women empowered, recovery introduced, and young leaders returning to serve the very communities that raised them. 💡 What We Learned Hope Is a Mindset You Can Build — scientifically defined by goals, pathways, and agency. Servant Leadership Works — authority is meant to bless, not control. Hope Compounds — once someone learns to hope, it creates new neural pathways that make future hope easier. Local Leadership Changes Communities — the most powerful transformation comes when people rise from within the community. Faith + Measurement = Impact — combining spiritual hope with data and six development pillars (health, education, economy, community, leadership, infrastructure). Innovation Matters — preschool + women-owned chicken business, recovery programs, and home-building trips. Legacy Is Built Daily — small, consistent acts of generosity and service create long-term change. Proximity Creates Aliveness — the people most moved to action are those who go, see, and participate. Resources Mentioned Here are the concrete books, articles, organizations, and websites referenced in Part 2: 1. Humanity & Hope United Foundation Riley's nonprofit empowering communities in Honduras through hope-based development. http://www.humanityandhope.org 2. Generous Coffee Coffee company donating 100% of profits to humanitarian work. http://www.generouscoffee.com 3. Global Leadership Summit (GLS) Where Riley learned the principles of servant leadership. http://www.globalleadership.org 4. Brookings Institution Nonpartisan Washington D.C. think tank partnering with Riley to create a measurable hope-assessment tool. http://www.brookings.edu 5. Bible – Hebrews 6:19 ("Hope as an Anchor") A recurring foundation for the episode's conversation on hope. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A19&version=NIV 6. Book – The Big Short by Michael Lewis (context for Riley's finance career) http://www.amazon.com/Big-Short-Inside-Doomsday-Machine/dp/0393338827 7. AA / 12-Step Recovery Resources Referenced as part of Riley's personal transformation and future plans for Honduras. https://www.aa.org 00:00 Leadership Evolution at Humanity and Hope United 02:49 The Power of Hope in Community Development 06:02 Measuring Hope: A Scientific Approach 08:55 Transformative Leadership and Personal Growth 11:59 Innovative Strategies in Nonprofit Work 14:50 Engaging with Humanity and Hope United 18:12 Personal Reflections and Life Lessons

What happens when your life plan collapses — and a moment of unexpected clarity forces you to redefine purpose? In Part 1 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer talks with Riley Fuller, founder of Humanity & Hope United and Generous Coffee. Riley grew up as the seventh generation in his family's Indiana food business, destined for stability and success. But heartbreak, addiction, and eventually jail time pushed him into survival mode — and then into an unexpected trip to Honduras that changed everything. There, Riley came face-to-face with what he calls the birth lottery — the truth that where you're born shapes the opportunities you get. What he saw stirred anger, grief, and clarity that turned into redemptive action. This episode traces the early arc of Riley's story: from self-focused ambition to the spark that would eventually lead him toward a life built around hope, service, and rebuilding what's broken. What We Learned The Birth Lottery — how the circumstances we're born into can create enormous privilege or enormous weight. Anger as a Catalyst — the moment Riley's frustration transformed into a desire for redemptive action. Selfish Ambition vs. Holy Ambition — why the drive to "be somebody" can crumble, and why it's not the end. The Power of Exposure — how proximity to suffering reshapes assumptions, priorities, and purpose. How Timing Shapes Calling — why Riley couldn't receive the vision at 19, but at 21 it hit with force. The False Promise of Success — chasing money, status, and achievement left Riley emptier than ever. Legacy Questions — how a single conversation with a homeless man cracked open Riley's understanding of meaning. Resources Mentioned Here are the actual resources directly referenced in the episode: 1. Humanity & Hope United Foundation The nonprofit Riley founded after his life-changing trip to Honduras. http://www.humanityandhope.org 2. Generous Coffee Riley's coffee company that donates 100% of profits to humanitarian work. http://www.generouscoffee.com 3. The Big Short (book + film) Referenced while discussing Riley's time as a derivatives trader in the 2008 financial crisis. Book: http://www.amazon.com/Big-Short-Inside-Doomsday-Machine/dp/0393338827 Film info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1596363 4. AA / Recovery Programs Mentioned as part of Riley's story of sobriety and long-term healing. https://www.aa.org 5. Bible – Themes of Legacy & Hope Riley's turning point includes wrestling with purpose and meaning: Hebrews 6:19 — "We have this hope as an anchor for the soul." http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A19&version=NIV 00:00 The Birth of Humanity and Hope United 22:05 From Despair to Purpose: A Journey to Honduras 38:03 Vision and Sacrifice: Building a Legacy

If the first half of Liz Fay's story was about courage and agency — choosing to step away from a 19-year teaching career — this half is about what comes next: the open space. Host Tim Meisenheimer and Liz talk about learning to rest before life demands it, the discipline of Sabbath, and why "no shoulds" became her rule for peace. Together, they explore how to practice rest without guilt, why receiving might be the bravest form of generosity, and how to reclaim agency when life feels full of non-negotiables. Liz offers wisdom not just for teachers, but for anyone facing burnout, transition, or uncertainty — reminding us that true investment isn't just in the future, but in the people and presence of today. CHAPTERS 00:00 Embracing Rest and Reflection 02:57 The Importance of Checking In 06:03 Challenging Non-Negotiables 09:05 Redefining Success and Agency 11:48 The Power of Vulnerability 15:14 Navigating the Unknown 18:13 The Gift of Community 21:04 Practicing Sabbath and Rest 24:02 Finding Joy in the Present 26:55 Preparing for a Season of Rest 29:50 The Journey of Self-Discovery 33:00 Living with Intention and Purpose  What You'll Learn How to practice Sabbath as discipline, not escape — what it means to rest on purpose, not as a reward. Why receiving is an act of generosity — and how humility allows others to love and serve you. The freedom of "no shoulds" — learning to let go of guilt, hurry, and external expectations. How to check in on others well — asking better questions that go beyond "How are you?" Why rest requires courage — especially for high-capacity, responsible people who are used to giving. The gift of modeling vulnerability — how honest sharing with family, kids, and friends strengthens relationships. Reimagining success and security — investing in today's relationships instead of tomorrow's "what-ifs."

What happens when generosity becomes your answer to scarcity? In this heartfelt conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Liz Fay — a longtime friend, fellow teacher, and his very first financial planning client — to explore how money follows values. Liz shares how she learned finance at the library before ever carrying a balance, why generosity became her response to fear, and what it looked like to open her home so friends could walk out of debt together. Together, they discuss the years of teaching through the pandemic, the yellow flags we often ignore, and the morning Liz realized she needed a different future. It's a story about courage, community, and the quiet strength that comes from aligning your finances with what matters most. If you've ever wondered "Am I allowed to change?" or "How do I help a friend who's struggling?" — this episode is for you. What You'll Learn Why money follows values — and how clarifying what matters most changes the way you spend, save, and give. How generosity dismantles fear and scarcity — the counterintuitive truth that giving actually leads to greater peace and freedom. Practical ways to walk with friends through debt — what it looks like to invite others into your home, your story, and your financial wisdom. How to recognize "yellow flags" of burnout — and why listening early can keep a good calling from becoming a crisis. What it means to start a new chapter faithfully — the courage it takes to leave a long-term role, even one you love, and trust God with what's next. Why generosity transforms both giver and receiver — how true wealth is measured not by accumulation, but by connection and character. Chapters: 00:00 The Journey of Financial Awareness 03:04 Generosity as a Response to Scarcity 05:58 Navigating the Teaching Profession 08:54 Creating a Culture of Generosity 12:11 The Impact of Generosity on Relationships 15:11 Recognizing Yellow Flags in Life 18:04 The Courage to Change Careers 20:55 The Reciprocal Nature of Generosity Resources Mentioned God and Money by Gregory Baumer & John Cortines – A biblical look at how generosity transforms the way we think about wealth and purpose. Debt-Proof Living by Mary Hunt – The book Liz found at the public library that first shaped her understanding of financial margin and living within her means.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, host Tim Meisenheimer continues his conversation with pastor and author Heath Hardesty, diving into themes from his new book, All Things Together: How Apprenticeship to Jesus Is the Way of Flourishing in a Fragmented World. Heath unpacks the deep connection between joy and generosity, sharing how a life aligned with God's abundance leads to greater freedom, joy, and relational wholeness. Together, Tim and Heath explore how generosity forms us, why giving isn't just financial, and how abundance and scarcity mindsets shape our view of the world. Through personal stories and biblical insights, Heath invites listeners to see generosity not as an obligation, but as an act of becoming fully human — reflecting a generous God who gives freely and joyfully. Order Heath's new book: All Things Together What You'll Learn in This Episode: The link between joy and generosity How generosity reshapes the heart and builds community The difference between abundance and scarcity mindsets How giving extends beyond money — to time, attention, and relationships Why generosity is a spiritual practice that brings personal freedom Chapters: (00:00) – Introduction: The Joy of Generosity (01:30) – Learning from Mentors: Modeling Generous Living (03:40) – Joy and Generosity as Core to Human Design (06:00) – Abundance vs. Scarcity Mindsets (08:30) – Living Generously Without Expectation (10:45) – Formation Through Giving (14:20) – The Cost and Beauty of Sacrificial Generosity (17:10) – Family, Faith, and Financial Stewardship (20:50) – The Practice of Joy in Giving (23:00) – Raising Kids Toward Wonder and Gratitude (26:30) – Final Reflections and Everyday Generosity Resources Mentioned: All Things Together by Heath Hardesty — order here The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey Muppets Christmas Carol Keywords: Heath Hardesty, generosity, joy, abundance mindset, scarcity mindset, spiritual formation, giving, Christian leadership, Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim Meisenheimer, faith and finances, apprenticeship to Jesus, All Things Together, family values, purpose, human flourishing

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Heath Hardesty—pastor, author of All Things Together (releasing October 14), speaker, entrepreneur, and father of five. Heath shares his unlikely journey from working as a plumber's apprentice to becoming a pastor in Silicon Valley, and how an existential crisis reshaped his faith and purpose. With wisdom that blends theology, literature, culture, and even Monty Python, Heath offers a fresh perspective on what it means to live a deeply integrated life in a fragmented world. Together, they dive into: Heath's early career, from bookstores to plumbing to pastoral leadership The existential turning point that led him to authentic faith Why apprenticeship—whether to a master plumber or to Jesus—is about relationship, not just skill The dangers of living "wonder blind" and how to reclaim awe in everyday life How fragmentation in modern life (disconnection, distraction, digital overload) can be healed through story, faith, and intentional practices If you've ever wrestled with faith, purpose, or what it means to live a truly flourishing life, this episode is for you. Pre-order Heath's book All Things Together: Amazon link Giveaway Leave a review on Spotify or Apple podcasts and then email [email protected] & you will be entered to win 1 of Heath's new book: All Things Together. Chapters (00:00) – Life Together and the Need for Community (01:00) – Meet Heath Hardesty: Pastor, Author, Friend (02:00) – From Plumber's Apprentice to Pastor (06:00) – Wrestling with Faith and Existential Questions (08:00) – Encountering Grace and Experiencing God Personally (11:00) – The Master and Apprentice Paradigm (14:00) – Living "Wonder Blind" and Rediscovering Awe (18:00) – The Fragmented, Disintegrated World We Live In (23:00) – Why We Need a Coherent Story (26:00) – The Power of Imagination and Storytelling (28:00) – Practices for Reintegrating Life (31:00) – Slowing Down: Presence, Prayer, and Generosity Keywords Heath Hardesty, All Things Together, spiritual formation, apprenticeship, purpose, faith journey, integrated life, fragmentation, wonder, imagination, theology, discipleship, Christian leadership, calling, living with purpose, family and faith

In part two of our conversation, David Green and Bill High share more about the principles that have guided Hobby Lobby and the Green family for generations. David unpacks the practices that keep him grounded as a CEO—prioritizing family, focusing on the "main thing," and resisting the distractions of endless work. Bill offers perspective on how intentional family culture shapes legacy, and why the Greens view Hobby Lobby not just as a company, but as a ministry. You'll also hear why David has no intention of selling Hobby Lobby, what it means to make a "great handoff" to future generations, and how true wealth is found in contentment rather than accumulation. The episode closes with powerful reflections on generosity, Bible translation, and culture-shaping projects like He Gets Us and the Museum of the Bible. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a parent, or someone rethinking what matters most, this episode challenges you to reframe success around faith, family, and eternal impact. Pre-order The Legacy Life: Leading Your Family to Make a Difference for Eternity Chapters (00:00) – Why Hobby Lobby prioritizes family over profit (04:00) – Daily rhythms and leadership practices of David Green (07:00) – The "iPad" notebook and keeping the main thing the main thing (10:00) – Why Hobby Lobby is viewed as a ministry, not just a business (13:00) – Preparing the next generations for leadership (16:00) – Contentment and redefining wealth (19:00) – Eternal impact vs. temporary success (20:00) – Projects shaping culture: Bible translation, Museum of the Bible, He Gets Us (26:00) – What Bill and David are loving right now Resources Mentioned The Legacy Life: Leading Your Family to Make a Difference for Eternity — David Green & Bill High Leadership Not by the Book — David Green & Bill High Museum of the Bible He Gets Us Campaign OneHope Ministry Keywords David Green, Bill High, Hobby Lobby, The Legacy Life, Leadership Not by the Book, family legacy, business as ministry, contentment, generational wealth, Bible translation, He Gets Us, Museum of the Bible, generosity, Christian leadership, faith and business, succession planning, family values, workplace culture.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with David Green, founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby, and Bill High, author and legacy consultant, to explore the story behind one of America's most unique businesses—and the values that shaped it. From a $600 loan and handmade picture frames to over 1,000 stores nationwide, David shares Hobby Lobby's humble beginnings, his parents' influence, and the central role of faith and generosity in shaping both business and family. Bill provides practical wisdom on how families can move beyond short-term thinking to build lasting legacies grounded in mission, vision, and values. Together, they unpack powerful lessons on family culture, stewardship, and why legacy is more than money—it's what you set in motion for generations to come. 📖 Pre-order their new book The Legacy Life: Leading Your Family to Make a Difference for Eternity: https://amzn.to/4mUVYXU What You'll Learn in This Episode How Hobby Lobby grew from a $600 loan into a $7B+ company Why values matter more than business skills in building a legacy Practical steps for creating family mission, vision, and values The role of guardrails in protecting family time and priorities How generosity shapes both family culture and business success Resources & Links The Legacy Life: Leading Your Family to Make a Difference for Eternity → https://amzn.to/4mUVYXU Learn more about Bill High's work → https://billhigh.com Connect with Tim → https://linktr.ee/timmeisenheimer Chapters (00:00) – Welcome & introduction (02:00) – Hobby Lobby's $600 beginning (05:00) – Lessons from David's parents on faith & generosity (07:00) – The shift from survival mode to legacy mindset (09:00) – Why family mission, vision, and values matter (12:00) – Guardrails for faith, family, and business (15:00) – Generosity as a core conviction (18:00) – Inside the family giving meetings (21:00) – Annual family celebration & legacy practices Keywords David Green, Hobby Lobby, Bill High, The Legacy Life, family values, legacy, Christian leadership, stewardship, generosity, business story, building a legacy, family mission, faith and business, wealth beyond riches

In Part 2 of our conversation with leadership advisor Brad Lomenick, we dive into what it really means to find clarity as a leader. Brad unpacks the difference between calling and assignment, showing how leaders can navigate seasons of transition without losing their sense of purpose. He shares his "four quadrants" framework—wiring, passion, God's story, and sustainability—as a practical tool for discovering direction. We talk through why so many leaders struggle with burnout, how to avoid "squatting" in roles that no longer fit, and what it looks like to keep moving from strength to strength. From coaching executives to walking with young leaders, Brad's wisdom will help you think differently about your own leadership journey. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why calling is the river and assignments are the boats we travel in. How to recognize the "through line" in your career. Why clarity—not just hard work—prevents burnout. The leadership trap of coasting or "squatting" in roles. How to retain and develop young talent in today's changing workplace. Why friendship and intentional community are critical for leaders. Resources & Links: Brad Lomenick's podcast: H3 Leadership Book recommendation: Giftology by John Ruhlin The Humble Inquiry by Edgar Schein If you've ever wrestled with purpose, transition, or leadership identity, this episode will give you both clarity and encouragement. Chapters (00:00) – Introduction & Welcome Back (01:12) – The Heart of a H3 Leader (06:45) – Leading Through Transitions (11:30) – Building Leaders vs. Building Platforms (16:20) – The Power of Proximity (22:40) – Leadership Pitfalls & Guardrails (28:05) – Passing the Baton (34:30) – Faith, Character, and Calling (39:10) – Practical Advice for Everyday Leaders (44:00) – Closing Thoughts & Resources Keywords Leadership, calling, assignment, clarity, purpose, burnout, career transitions, executive coaching, influence, leadership development, Brad Lomenick, H3 Leadership, talent development, workplace culture, Christian leadership, leadership identity, clarity in calling, Wealth Beyond Riches podcast

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Brad Lomenick—strategic advisor, author, podcaster, and leadership connector—to explore the difference between networkers and connectors. Brad shares why clarity is essential for avoiding burnout, how connectors add long-term value, and why generosity and curiosity are the real currencies of influence. From lessons learned as a ranch wrangler to leading conversations with global CEOs, Brad reveals practical ways to build trust, steward influence, and live with an abundance mindset. This conversation is packed with wisdom for leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone seeking to build relationships that matter. Chapters: (00:00) Why clarity is the antidote to burnout (01:00) Connector vs. networker: what's the difference? (04:00) How connectors build trust and credibility (07:00) Why generosity creates lasting influence (13:00) Practical steps to shift from networking to connecting (18:00) The mentors and models who shaped Brad's leadership (21:00) Lessons learned wrangling horses (and CEOs!) (27:00) The lost art of asking good questions Resources & Links: Brad Lomenick's podcast: H3 Leadership Book recommendation: Giftology by John Ruhlin The Humble Inquiry by Edgar Schein Don't forget to subscribe and leave a review—your support helps spread the message of Wealth Beyond Riches! Keywords Brad Lomenick, Wealth Beyond Riches podcast, leadership podcast, H3 Leadership, connector vs networker, building trust in leadership, clarity and burnout prevention, leadership influence strategies, generosity in leadership, authentic relationships in business, leadership lessons, networking vs connecting, Christian leadership, values-driven leadership, servant leadership

What Happens When You Stop Chasing Wins—and Start Building a Life That Matters In Part 2 of our Wealth Beyond Riches conversation, John Olinger opens up about the shift that changed everything: moving from high-profile projects to high-impact relationships. John spent years leading digital marketing at Nike—launching global initiatives like Nike Adapt and working on campaigns with icons like Kobe Bryant. But when personal tragedy and deep reflection collided, his definition of success began to change. This episode explores: The behind-the-scenes of John's work with Kobe Bryant and Nike's most innovative projects His decision to leave Nike and pursue a more intentional, family-centered life The trade-offs he and his wife made to align finances with their values And why small, consistent moments—like wrestling with his kids or cheering poolside—can become the most meaningful "wins" of all This is a powerful reflection on purpose, presence, and the courage to realign your life with what truly matters. 🔹 What You'll Learn: How John led global campaigns at Nike—and why he walked away The internal shift from performance to presence Practical insights on making values-based financial decisions How to balance ambition with relational integrity The joy of ordinary moments, and why they often matter most   Connect with John Olinger // Subscribe to the Worthy Wins Newsletter: https://worthywins.co/   // Order Worthy Wins on Amazon: https://a.co/d/hKYkBZd // Check out Unitus: https://www.weareunitus.com // John Olinger on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnolinger/ // John Olinger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-olinger/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

John Olinger on Worthy Wins, Strategic Living & Investing in What Matters Most In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with John Olinger, author of Worthy Wins, to explore how to live a story that actually matters. From his time at Nike to his work coaching leaders and writing his book, John has seen the difference between chasing success and pursuing significance. He unpacks what it means to win in a way that aligns with your values—and why relationships, not resumes, are the true measure of a meaningful life. Together, they dive into: The four pillars of a meaningful story Why your calendar is the clearest reflection of what you value How to identify your most important relationships And how to stop drifting and start living with deep intentionality This conversation is a blueprint for anyone ready to turn goals into something greater: a legacy of purpose. 🔹 What You'll Learn: How to redefine "winning" through the lens of worth and wisdom What John learned at Nike—and what he left behind How to apply strategic planning to your personal life Why deep relationships require intentional investment How to align your energy with what truly matters 🎧 Tune in now and discover how to build a life of worthy wins. (00:00) The Reality of Life's Shortness (00:27) Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches (01:20) John Olinger's Journey to Nike (05:54) The Clearness Committee and Career Choices (09:29) The Birth of the Book and Newsletter (16:20) Writing Journey and Book Release (20:00) John's Surprising Coffee Shop Confession (20:50) The Impact of a Thoughtful Gift (21:54) Why Write a Book? (22:12) Defining Winning and Success (24:53) The Importance of Relationships (26:49) Investing in Deep Relationships (28:09) Balancing Quality and Quantity of Time (33:58) Creating a Meaningful Story (35:16) Four Pillars of a Meaningful Story   Connect with John Olinger // Subscribe to the Worthy Wins Newsletter: https://worthywins.co/   // Pre-Order Worthy Wins on Amazon: https://a.co/d/hKYkBZd   // John Olinger on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnolinger/ // John Olinger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-olinger/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In Part 2 of our conversation with Dan Cumberland—founder of The Meaning Movement—we go even deeper into what truly matters after success. We unpack what comes after the big exit: 🧭 How do you find meaning once the business is sold? 💡 What does it look like to model abundance and purpose to your kids? 🎁 And how do you use wealth to create impact, not just comfort? Dan shares his framework for post-career purpose, his thoughts on ethical power, and the mindset shift required to build a legacy based on values—not just valuation. If you're navigating transition, rethinking your priorities, or wondering what life looks like after achievement… this is the episode for you. (00:00) Introduction and Ethical Use of Power (00:20) Welcome to Wealth Beyond Riches (01:16) Career Transition and the Four P's Framework (02:07) Planning for Post-Exit Life (05:13) Finding a Therapist or Counselor (06:35) Financial Payoff and Relationship with Money (10:53) Generosity and Parenting Values (15:42) Privilege and Responsibility (17:44) Realizations and Wisdom (18:16) Generosity and Family (19:48) The Impact of Giving (22:00) Personal Stories of Generosity (24:16) Loving Life's Simple Pleasures (28:14) Teaching Kids About Money (31:01) Conclusion and Call to Action   Connect with Dan Cumberland // Subscribe to the Meaning Movement: The Meaning Movement   // Dan Cumberland on X: https://x.com/dancumberland  // Dan Cumberland on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dancumberland/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

What does it really mean to find purpose in your work—and how can technology like AI help you get there? In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Dan Cumberland—entrepreneur, AI strategist, and founder of The Meaning Movement—to explore the deeper questions behind calling, career transitions, and the future of meaningful work. Dan opens up about his journey from youth ministry to entrepreneurship, and shares a 4-part framework for discovering your purpose. He also offers a grounded perspective on how AI can be a tool for self-discovery and connection, rather than disconnection. This conversation blends soul and strategy—perfect for anyone navigating change or seeking more meaning in their work. This episode is for the builders, the seekers, and the curious minds asking, "Is there more to work than just a paycheck?" (Spoiler: Yes.) 🎧 Listen now and let us know what resonated most.   (00:00) Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches (01:08) Discovering the Meaning Movement (01:44) Personal Journey and Career Transitions (04:33) Unpacking Purpose and Calling (11:07) Navigating Career Changes and Entrepreneurship (12:07) Redefining Work and Purpose (15:47) Reflecting on Past Experiences to Find Purpose (16:26) Identifying Meaningful Work Through Relationships and Processes (17:09) Understanding the Impact of Your Work (17:52) The Role of Payoff in Finding Fulfillment (20:12) Using AI to Discover Career Themes (22:36) Balancing AI's Potential and Risks (26:52) Practical Applications of AI in Personal Life   Connect with Dan Cumberland // Subscribe to the Meaning Movement: The Meaning Movement   // Dan Cumberland on X: https://x.com/dancumberland  // Dan Cumberland on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dancumberland/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In Part 2 of Wealth Beyond Riches, host Tim Meisenheimer continues his inspiring conversation with Jessica Jackley—co-founder of Kiva, professor at USC, and partner at Untapped Capital. Jessica opens up about the creative mindset behind building a values-driven organization, the lessons learned from scaling Kiva, and the underestimated potential of nonprofit innovation. She also shares how personal values, high standards, and reimagining traditional paths can unlock both freedom and purpose in business. This episode is a masterclass in thinking differently, building with heart, and leading with intention—a must-listen for anyone who wants to create impact without compromising integrity. 🎧 Tune in to explore how social entrepreneurship can shape a more meaningful version of success. (00:00) Setting High Standards and Breaking the Mold (00:15) Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches (01:01) Jessica Jackley on Entrepreneurship and Problem Solving (02:03) The Concept of Social Entrepreneurship (05:13) The Impact of Kiva and Crowdfunding (10:06) Advice for Aspiring Finance and Accounting Students (14:32) Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes   Connect with Jessica Jackley // Jessica's Website: www.jessicajackley.com   // Jessica Jackley on X: https://x.com/jessicajackley  // Jessica Jackley's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicajackley/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Jessica Jackley—co-founder of Kiva, general partner at Untapped Capital, and professor at USC's School of Business. Jessica shares her journey from launching Kiva, a pioneering microfinance platform, to reshaping the way we think about generosity, volunteerism, and meaningful work. They discuss the emotional and societal impact of the LA wildfires, the resilience of communities in crisis, and the power of giving beyond money—whether through time, expertise, or opportunity. Jessica also dives into the future of volunteerism, how business and philanthropy can intersect, and what it means to design a life centered on purpose and impact. This episode is packed with inspiration, practical advice, and thought-provoking insights for anyone looking to redefine success and wealth beyond financial gain. 🎧 Listen now for a conversation that will challenge how you think about generosity, career fulfillment, and the way we help others!   (00:00) Introduction and Exciting Opportunities (00:20) Meet Jessica Jackley: Entrepreneurial Journey (01:03) The Impact of LA Wildfires (07:47) Generosity in Times of Crisis (10:49) Innovating the Volunteer Economy (15:33) Exploring Nonprofit and For-Profit Structures (17:53) Exploring the Volunteer Economy (19:20) The Value of Giving Yourself (21:28) Finding Joy and Purpose in Work (24:06) Reflecting on Personal Growth (26:49) The Journey of Generosity (29:43) Redefining Success and Wealth   Connect with Jessica Jackley // Jessica's Website: www.jessicajackley.com   // Jessica Jackley on X: https://x.com/jessicajackley  // Jessica Jackley's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicajackley/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim continues his conversation with Ben Hardman and Luke Dooley, founders of Banded, an organization supporting business owners and entrepreneurs by creating community and focusing on personal growth. They discuss the challenges business owners face when selling their businesses, maintaining balance between personal and professional life, and the importance of discovering one's true purpose. Learn how peer learning, strategic life planning, and community support can lead to lasting fulfillment beyond mere financial success.   ✨ What You'll Learn in This Episode: - Navigating Post-Business Sale Transition: Real-life stories of business owners transitioning after selling their companies. - Personalized Paths to Success: Understanding that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to business exits and personal fulfillment. - The Importance of Community: How peer support and relationships can help business owners through major life transitions. - Discovering True Purpose: Why it's crucial to identify and pursue what truly makes you happy beyond mere profits. - Financial and Personal Balance: Reflecting on opportunity costs and balancing professional ambitions with personal life and family. Ben and Luke's insights provide a comprehensive view of how to achieve success in business while leading a fulfilling personal life.   Don't miss this engaging and insightful episode.   👉 Learn more about Banded: https://www.joinbanded.com 🎙️ Listen to the full episode on your favorite podcast platform: https://linktr.ee/timmeisenheimer   (00:00) Balancing Family and Business (00:52) Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches (01:39) Navigating Business Transitions (03:07) Unique Challenges in Business Exits (03:41) The Importance of Peer Learning (04:40) Different Approaches to Business Sales (07:05) Finding Fulfillment Beyond Profits (07:54) Managing Finances and Relationships (09:27) The Role of Community and Introspection (15:03) Knowing What You Want in Business (16:52) Navigating Life's Big Questions (17:11) Legacy and Family Values (17:41) Business Vision and Client Stories (19:35) Empowering Potential and Community (20:58) Fun and Personal Insights (22:42) Current Favorites and Recommendations (27:06) Closing Thoughts and Call to Action   Connect with Ben Hardman & Luke Dooley // Banded: https://www.joinbanded.com/ // Banded on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joinbanded/ // Banded on X: https://x.com/JoinBanded // Ben's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-hardman-189b38217/ // Luke's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-dooley/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose. #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #BusinessGrowth #AuthenticLeadership #LonelinessInLeadership #WealthBeyondRiches

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim visits with Ben Hardman and Luke Dooley, co-founders of Banded, an organization dedicated to helping entrepreneurs break free from isolation and build thriving relationships.   Ben and Luke share how Banded is redefining success by creating story sessions, peer groups, and immersive trips that promote authenticity, personal fulfillment, and whole-life flourishing. They discuss the biggest challenges leaders face today, why loneliness is one of the greatest struggles in entrepreneurship, and how intentional community can accelerate both personal and business growth.   Whether you're an entrepreneur, business leader, or looking to build deeper relationships in your life, this episode is packed with insights on leading with purpose, finding your people, and creating a fulfilling life beyond just business success.   🎧 Tune in to learn how Banded is creating a space for whole-life flourishing for entrepreneurs.   👉 Learn more about Banded: https://www.joinbanded.com/  🎙️ Listen to the all episodes on your favorite podcast platform: https://linktr.ee/timmeisenheimer      (00:00) Introduction and Welcome (00:49) Meet Ben and Luke: Founders of Banded (01:35) The Vision Behind Banded (04:15) Creating a Safe Space for Entrepreneurs (06:55) Transformative Experiences and Peer Groups (18:52) Challenges and Innovations in Business (26:05) Conclusion     Connect with Ben Hardman & Luke Dooley // Banded: https://www.joinbanded.com/ // Banded on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joinbanded/ // Banded on X: https://x.com/JoinBanded // Ben's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-hardman-189b38217/ // Luke's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-dooley/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose. #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #BusinessGrowth #AuthenticLeadership #LonelinessInLeadership #WealthBeyondRiches

In this episode of 'Wealth Beyond Riches,' Tim continues his conversation with Travis Hall, exploring the emotional and logistical aspects of major business transitions. Travis shares insights on leadership, team dynamics, and the profound impact of preparing for and executing a business exit. They delve into the significance of fostering real relationships within a team, the grief and growth that come with changes, and the importance of having a giving mentality grounded in faith. Additionally, the discussion touches on practical steps for managing transitions, including financial planning and the role of donor-advised funds. This episode offers a blend of personal stories and actionable advice for entrepreneurs navigating their own leadership journeys.   🎧 Tune in now to gain insights on leadership, transitions, and creating a lasting legacy.   👉 Learn more about Travis Hall's work and Dataliction: https://www.dataliction.com 🎙️ Listen to the full episode on your favorite podcast platform: https://linktr.ee/timmeisenheimer    (00:00) Introduction and Support Request (00:21) Travis' Emotional Farewell (00:47) Welcome and Guest Introduction (00:55) Travis Hall's Leadership Story (01:55) Discussing Retirement and Transitions (07:25) The Importance of Giving and Legacy (14:16) Family Involvement in Charity (17:27) Hosting and Cultural Exchange (27:46) Fun and Games with Family (28:32) Closing Remarks and Future Episodes   Connect with Travis Hall // Hallmark Coaching website: https://www.hallmarkcoaching.com // Dataliction website: https://www.dataliction.com // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose. #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #WealthBeyondRiches #TravisHall #BusinessExit #Generosity #FinancialFreedom #podcast

In this episode of 'Wealth Beyond Riches,' Tim engages in an insightful conversation with Travis Hall on the day he sold one of his companies. Travis shares the raw emotions and thoughts on preparing for a major business exit, the importance of having a next goal, and his advice to entrepreneurs on transition planning. They discuss leadership, empathy in the workplace, and the significance of recognizing and appreciating employees. Don't miss Travis' practical tips on building a strong company culture and the crucial role of emotional well-being in business success. Tune in for a blend of personal anecdotes and valuable leadership insights.   (00:00) Introduction (00:21) The Importance of Mental Well-being (00:52) Welcome and Guest Introduction (01:00) Travis Hall's Business Exit (03:19) Emotional Journey of Entrepreneurs (06:56) Starting New Ventures (12:48) Leadership and Mental Health (15:59) The Remodel Health Journey (20:21) Open Communication with the Team (20:47) Involving the Team in the Process (23:42) Financial Rewards for the Team (25:13) Celebrating Success and Legacy (30:39) Leadership and Team Appreciation (31:11) Practical Tips for Team Appreciation (33:53) Empathy in Leadership   Connect with Travis Hall // Hallmark Coaching website: https://www.hallmarkcoaching.com // Dataliction website: https://www.dataliction.com // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode, we continue our conversation with Joey Odom, co-founder of Aro, delving into how their technology encourages users to put down their phones and fully engage with life and loved ones. Joey shares valuable insights for parents and grandparents on creating tech-free zones to foster human connection and discusses the positive impact of their app, which has helped users collectively reclaim over 2 million hours. Additionally, Joey provides practical tips for business leaders interested in incorporating digital wellness into employee benefits, and introduces the upcoming Digital Fast initiative aimed at churches. Joey also reflects on his personal journey, emphasizing the importance of presence, generosity, and tackling the temptations of wealth and distraction.   🎧 Don't miss this transformative conversation—tune in now to learn how to live more fully and meaningfully in today's digital world.   👉 Learn more about Aro and their mission: https://www.goaro.com 📱 Learn about the digital fast: https://www.digitalfast2025.com 🎙️ Listen to the full episode on your favorite podcast platform: https://linktr.ee/timmeisenheimer   (00:00) Introduction (00:21) The Importance of Human Connection (00:46) Part Two with Joey Odom (01:30) Practical Steps for Reducing Phone Usage (03:10) Strategies for Phone-Free Activities (04:05) The Impact of RO on Family Time and Work (06:59) Aro's Achievements and Future Initiatives (09:25) Collective Action and Cultural Change (11:54) The Digital Fast Initiative (20:01) Living in the Present (23:10) Transitioning Careers (25:36) Financial Perspectives (28:34) The Joy of Giving (36:38) Closing Thoughts and Resources   Connect with Joey Odom // Aro Website website: https://www.goaro.com/ // Follow Aro on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goaronow/  // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyodom/  // Joey's Podcast: https://www.goaro.com/podcast  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

Join us for an engaging conversation with Joey Odom, co-founder of Aro, as he shares his journey from commercial real estate to tackling the modern challenge of screen addiction. Aro, a technology company that helps people reclaim time, moments, and relationships from their phones. Aro has helped tens of thousands of families spend millions of hours apart from their phones. Joey discusses his innovative approach with Aro, focusing on reclaiming valuable time and fostering deeper connections by reducing phone usage. Discover Joey's practical tips for creating sacred, phone-free spaces, and how his experiences shaped his mission to help families and individuals live more intentional and connected lives. This episode is packed with insights on balancing technology and relationships, perfect for anyone seeking a healthier digital lifestyle. (00:00) Introduction (00:21) The Role of Shame and Personal Growth (00:44) Welcome and Guest Introduction (01:06) Fun Game with Joey Odom (06:23) Joey Odom's Career Journey (13:04) The Mission of Aro (17:32) The TechWise Family and Aro Box (19:18) Kids and Connection (20:34) Modeling Good Phone Behavior (23:20) Practical Steps to Reclaim Time (23:56) The 5 S's for Better Phone Habits (30:57) Environmental Changes Over Willpower   Connect with Joey Odom // Aro Website website: https://www.goaro.com/ // Follow Aro on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goaronow/  // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyodom/  // Joey's Podcast: https://www.goaro.com/podcast  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode, Pam discusses her perspectives on freedom, money, time, and generosity. She shares her personal experiences and strategies for defining what is 'enough' financially, her passion for maximizing time and enriching life experiences, and her views on the intrinsic value of generosity. Pam also talks about her upbringing, the influence of her parents, and the importance of teaching her children valuable life lessons. The conversation touches on the challenges and rewards of entrepreneurship, family dynamics, and the significance of living a balanced and intentional life.     (00:00) Introduction: The Value of Freedom (00:50) Defining 'Enough' in Financial Terms (02:47) The Role of Taxes in Financial Decisions (03:30) Generosity and Charitable Giving (04:50) The Influence of Family and Upbringing (06:13) Immigration and the American Dream (08:07) World Schooling and Parenting Philosophy (12:14) Future Plans and Entrepreneurial Ventures (13:10) Conclusion: Integrating Family, Work, and Life   Watch the entire episode on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOD9wlNvnwU&list=PL9Rjx6d1QgpnT8gdDHyTJFi9naisYjt1A   Connect with Pam Marmon // Marmon Consulting website: https://marmonconsulting.com // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pammarmon-change-management-consultant/  // Pam's Books:  No One's Listening and It's Your Fault: https://geni.us/nooneslistening Speak Up or Stay Stuck: https://geni.us/speakuporstaystuck Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose. #ChangeManagement #WorldSchooling #Leadership #Entrepreneurship #WealthBeyondRiches #PamMarmon #PurposeDrivenLiving

Join us for part one of our inspiring conversation with Pam Marmon—bestselling author, entrepreneur, and expert in organizational change. In this episode, Pam shares her transformational journey from corporate America to building her own business, rooted in purpose, freedom, and intentional living. Explore her unique take on 'world schooling' as a way to foster curiosity, resilience, and deep family connections. Pam also unpacks her proven strategies for managing change in organizations, offering insights on how to balance profit and people for sustainable success. Whether you're navigating a personal or professional pivot, this episode is packed with practical advice and powerful stories that will inspire you to reimagine your relationship with work, money, and purpose. 🎧 Tune in now to gain actionable tips from a leader who knows how to turn challenges into opportunities.   Connect with Pam Marmon // Marmon Consulting website: https://marmonconsulting.com // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pammarmon-change-management-consultant/  // Pam's Books:  No One's Listening and It's Your Fault: https://geni.us/nooneslistening Speak Up or Stay Stuck: https://geni.us/speakuporstaystuck Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose. #ChangeManagement #WorldSchooling #Leadership #Entrepreneurship #WealthBeyondRiches #PamMarmon #PurposeDrivenLiving

In part two of our conversation with Kristen Welch, CEO of Mercy House Global, we explore her candid reflections on leadership, burnout, and spiritual renewal. Kristen opens up about the challenges of leading through post-COVID uncertainties and how taking a sabbatical revitalized her vision and leadership. She shares practical insights into creating space for silence, solitude, and spiritual growth and how these practices have shaped her as a leader. Discover how Mercy House Global is breaking the cycle of poverty for women in Kenya and the U.S., while also fostering a supportive and innovative organizational culture. If you're seeking inspiration to integrate spiritual practices into your life or leadership, this episode is for you. 🎧 Tune in to hear Kristen's powerful story and her advice for leading with health and purpose. 00:00 Introduction and Burnout 00:34 Welcome to Wealth Beyond Riches 02:11 Kristen's Sabbatical Journey 07:42 The Importance of Silence and Solitude 15:52 Implementing Sabbatical Policies 18:38 Spiritual Formation and Workplace Culture 26:53 Training for the Grand Canyon 30:12 Final Thoughts and Reflections 33:39 Closing Remarks   Books mentioned: Kristen Welch Books: https://wearethatfamily.com/books/ Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Ruth Haley Barton: https://www.ruthhaleybarton.com/books Connect with Kristen Welch & Mercy House Global // Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristengwelch/  // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristen-welch-0b215a5/  // Mercy House Global Website: https://mercyhouseglobal.org/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose. #Leadership #BurnoutRecovery #SpiritualGrowth #WealthBeyondRiches #KristenWelch #MercyHouseGlobal #Podcast #womeninleadership #nonprofitleadership #burnout #sabbatical

In this episode, Tim sits down with Kristen Welch, acclaimed storyteller and founder of Mercy House Global. Kristen shares her unorthodox career path that began with a passion for writing and led to the founding of a nonprofit organization. She discusses her early influences, the impact of blogging, and the pivotal moments that redirected her life's mission. Kristen reflects on the importance of gratitude, rest, and the small 'yeses' that have shaped her journey. Dive deep into Kristen's transformative experiences, including a life-changing trip to Kenya and the founding of Mercy House Global, which empowers women and fights poverty through sustainable practices. 0:00 Introduction and Welcoming Kristen 0:30 Kristen's Unorthodox Career Path 2:18 Discovering the Power of Blogging 4:30 Life-Changing Trip to Kenya 12:20 Founding Mercy House Global 17:48 The Importance of Gratitude 24:46 Practicing Rest and Balance 32:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Books mentioned: Kristen Welch Books: https://wearethatfamily.com/books/ Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Ruth Haley Barton: https://www.ruthhaleybarton.com/books Connect with Kristen Welch & Mercy House Global // Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristengwelch/  // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristen-welch-0b215a5/  // Mercy House Global Website: https://mercyhouseglobal.org/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

Join us in part 2 of our conversation with financial advisor Dave Zoller as we dive deep into transforming your relationship with money and achieving financial well-being. Dave shares wisdom on maintaining a balanced focus, avoiding the pitfalls of comparing oneself to others, and embracing gratitude in financial matters. We explore the importance of a servant mindset learned from influential figures, and discuss strategies for a fulfilling retirement. Dave offers an innovative perspective on the future role of AI in financial advising while emphasizing the enduring significance of human connections. This episode promises to reshape your financial mindset and inspire a holistic approach to wealth.   0:00 The Importance of Money and Stewardship 0:34 Introducing Dave Zoller: Wisdom and Friendship 1:19 Understanding Stress and Anxiety in Our Relationship with Money 3:41 The Comparison Trap and Social Media 5:01 A Healthy Relationship with Money 7:41 Gratitude in Financial Matters 9:08 Learning from Mentors and Role Models  10:53 Keys to a Successful Retirement 11:26 The Concept of Fulfillment 12:05 Retirement and Finding Purpose 14:29 The Three C's of Retirement 15:56 Future Prospects and AI 17:57 The Importance of Connection 19:58 Adapting to AI in Financial Advising 21:46 Personal Reflections and Closing Thoughts   Watch on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9Rjx6d1QgpnT8gdDHyTJFi9naisYjt1A  Connect with Dave Zoller // Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/streamlinemypractice/ // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davezoller/ // Dave Zoller Website: https://streamlineplanning.com/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of 'Wealth Beyond Riches,' we sit down with Dave Zoller, co-owner of Streamline Financial, to uncover his transformative journey from a tax preparer to a leading wealth advisor with a successful YouTube channel. Dave shares insights into his career evolution, emphasizing a servant-led approach to work and the deeper purpose behind creating content to help others explore a fulfilling retirement. As Dave recounts his experiences, from the busy tax days to leading a firm based on service, he portrays how serving others can alleviate financial burdens and lead to a more meaningful life. Join us to explore how redefining relationships with work, money, and purpose can dramatically impact personal fulfillment and business success.   0:00 Overcoming Performance Anxiety 0:38 Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches 2:11 Meet Dave Zoller 4:29 Dave's Role and Evolution at Streamline Financial 6:42 The Shift to Content Creation 14:47 The Deeper Purpose Behind Content Creation 20:34 The Importance of Service Mentality  Watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/dW1Siapi_ng Connect with Dave Zoller //  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/streamlinemypractice/ // LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davezoller/ // Streamline Financial Website: https://streamlineplanning.com/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of 'Wealth Beyond Riches,' Tim continues his engaging conversation with Jackie Glass, an executive wellness coach, keynote speaker, and preacher. Jackie walks Tim through the Working Genius Assessment, shedding light on his strengths in enablement and tenacity. They discuss the importance of wellness, productivity, and finding true purpose in work and life. Jackie's insights reveal how personal recognition and balanced team dynamics can combat the current loneliness epidemic and enhance overall well-being.  Jackie is an experienced licensed clinical professional therapist, Working Genius certified executive wellness coach, pastor, and sought-after communicator, allowing her to coach people towards growth and movement that leaves an impact. Jackie is passionate about seeing people live whole and full of wellness: heart, mind, soul, and strength. This episode dives deep into practical applications of the assessment and the transformative power of living a life on purpose.    00:00 Introduction to Wellness and Purpose 00:32 Meet Jackie Glass: Executive Wellness Coach 00:57 Exploring the Working Genius Assessment 04:07 The Importance of Wellness in the Workplace 05:39 Understanding Your Working Genius Results 09:34 Enablement and Tenacity: Tim's Strengths 14:54 The Role of Generosity in Financial Wellness 20:13 Balancing Frustrations and Energy 21:16 Partnering with Complementary Strengths 22:18 Understanding and Utilizing Geniuses 22:44 Practical Tips for Applying Assessments 23:57 Shifts in Competencies and Burnout 25:40 Nurturing Wonder and Environment 28:53 Personal Reflections and Joy 35:36 Closing Thoughts and Gratitude   Connect with Jackie Glass // Instagram: www.instagram.com/jackiefglass  // LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-glass-611182238  // Jackie Glass Website: www.jackieglass.com    Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim explores the intersection of work and wellness with executive coach Jackie Glass. They delve into the importance of working from a place of rest, strategies for managing vocational transitions, and the distinct challenges faced by female leaders. Jackie shares insights from her diverse career, including contributions to the Global Leadership Summit and working with influential figures like Joni Eareckson Tada. Listeners will learn practical approaches to maintaining well-being, the significance of rest and margin, and the value of effective leadership.     As an energetic coach, magnetic leader, experienced communicator, and mama of 4, Jackie was made to lead moments that spark transformation.  Jackie is an experienced licensed clinical professional therapist, Working Genius certified executive wellness coach, pastor, and sought after communicator, allowing her to coach people towards growth and movement that leaves an impact. Jackie is passionate about seeing people live whole and full of wellness: heart, mind, soul, and strength.     Tune in for an enriching discussion on achieving true wealth through purposeful work and holistic living.     00:00 Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches 00:31 Meet Jackie Glass: Executive Coach and Speaker 00:52 The Working Genius Assessment 01:18 Challenges and Transitions in Leadership 02:01 Jackie's Journey and Coaching Philosophy 05:24 Supporting Female Executives 07:34 Navigating Vocational Transitions 20:18 The Importance of Rest and Margin 26:39 Behind the Scenes at the Global Leadership Summit 30:42 Joni Eareckson Tada's Inspirational Story 36:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts   Resources: Global Leadership Summit Span of Control: What To Do When You're Under Pressure, Overwhelmed, And Ready To Get What You Really Want by Carey D Lohrenz Connect with Jackie Glass // Instagram: www.instagram.com/jackiefglass  // LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-glass-611182238  // Jackie Glass Website: www.jackieglass.com    Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of 'Wealth Beyond Riches,' host Tim continues his conversation with John Blumberg, an expert on core values and integrity in leadership. John shares transformative stories and insights from his 25-year journey, focusing on how core values influence decision-making and service within organizations. He discusses his concept of 'Return on Integrity' and the importance of defining core values to avoid drifting away from one's true purpose. The episode is filled with personal anecdotes, practical advice for leaders, and the deep impact of maintaining integrity in both personal and professional life.   00:26 Introduction to Wealth Beyond Riches 00:36 Diving into Core Values and Integrity 02:22 The Painful Lessons from Arthur Anderson 05:33 The Journey of Writing on Integrity 07:08 Defining Integrity and Its Depth 10:24 The Importance of Core Values in Leadership 22:20 The Challenge of Defining 'Enough' 27:54 The Parallel Between Integrity and Generosity 32:12 Personal Reflections and Future Projects 37:59 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action   Leadership Integrity Assessment:  https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LdrAssess  Individual Integrity Assessment:  https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YouAssess    Connect with John Blumberg // Instagram: www.instagram.com/johngblumberg // LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/johngblumbergcsp // John Blumberg Website: www.blumbergroi.com  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, we are joined by John Blumberg, a leadership coach to CEOs and executives, who transitioned from an 18-year career at Arthur Anderson to become an entrepreneur, speaker, writer, and coach. John shares his profound experiences on integrity and generosity, emphasizing the importance of giving over getting and discovering one's core values. Through personal anecdotes, including a life-changing leadership conference speech and interactions with his neighbor and host Tim, John discusses the significance of intentional career transitions, navigating the uncertainty of retirement, and the value of being present and generous in every aspect of life.   00:00 Life-Changing Moments: A Student's Impact 00:27 Introduction to John Blumberg 02:06 A Neighborly Connection 03:19 The Power of Encouragement 07:04 John's Career Transition 19:31 Navigating Retirement and Transitions 27:19 The Essence of Generosity 30:15 Conclusion and Next Steps   Leadership Integrity Assessment:  https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LdrAssess    Individual Integrity Assessment:  https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YouAssess      Connect with John Blumberg // Instagram: www.instagram.com/johngblumberg // LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/johngblumbergcsp // John Blumberg Website: www.blumbergroi.com  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ www.linkedin.com/in/meisy Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode, Tim talks with Mikey Taylor, former professional skateboarder turned successful entrepreneur, to discuss his journey from sports to business. They reminisce about their initial meeting and delve into Mikey's transition from skateboarding to redefining his career. Mikey shares his experience of handling early financial success, the challenges of identity loss post-retirement, and the significant role of faith and purpose in his life.   Mikey also talks about his insights on real estate, financial freedom, and the importance of maintaining a healthy work-life balance.    Tune in to gain valuable perspectives on managing career shifts, personal growth, and embedding purpose in their professional endeavors.   00:00 Introduction and Catching Up 01:55 The Journey from Skateboarding to Financial Success 04:27 Navigating Identity and Purpose 11:19 Family Values and Parenting 17:08 Building a Personal Brand 23:59 Defining Financial Freedom 25:42 Current Ventures and Future Plans 27:02 Parenting Challenges and Early Childhood 27:26 Balancing Work, Family, and Personal Well-being 28:28 The Fulfillment of Work and Financial Freedom 29:50 The Paradox of Wealth and Giving 31:00 Investing and Financial Strategies 37:31 Real Estate Market Insights 44:45 Future Plans and Personal Aspirations 48:40 Fun and Personal Interests 51:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts     Connect with Mikey Taylor // Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeytaylor // Youtubue: https://www.youtube.com/@mikeytaylor // Instagram for Commune Capital: https://www.instagram.com/communecapital/    // Commune Capital Website: https://communecapital.com/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy/  Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim explores the deeper dimensions of wealth beyond financial success with guest Bill Holbrook. An executive coach with a background in ministry, Bill articulates his philosophy of balancing work and time wealth to impact people meaningfully. The conversation traverses their shared history, Bill's transition from pastoring to coaching, the significance of setting boundaries for work-life balance, the value of regular rest, and strategies for transitioning careers or moving into retirement. Bill shares personal anecdotes, professional insights, and practical advice, emphasizing the importance of establishing rhythms of rest and redefining success to encompass a well-lived and balanced life. Tune in for insights into balancing work with personal well-being, the art of rest, and practical guidance on impactful leadership and generosity.  00:00 Introduction: Defining True Wealth 00:38 Meet the Guest: Bill Holbrook 02:38 Bill's Journey to Coaching 05:35 The Power of Assessments 17:47 Navigating Career Transitions 23:56 Generosity and Mentorship 25:52 Generosity in Coaching 27:12 Balancing Time and Money 28:08 Transition from Pastor to Executive Coach 29:06 Building a Coaching Business 31:40 Scaling and Personal Limits 34:15 Defining Success and Wealth 40:15 Importance of Rest and Vacation 42:55 Personal Rhythms and Family Time 48:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts   Connect with Bill Holbrook // Clarity Coaching: https://claritycoaching.group/  // Connect with Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billdholbrook/  Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy/  Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

From the UFC Octagon to Life Coaching: Ricardo Lamas's Journey In this episode of 'Wealth Beyond Riches,' we sit down with Ricardo Lamas, world championship UFC fighter turned entrepreneur and coach. Our conversation delves deep into the transformative power of failure, the significant impact of a coach, and the journey from a prestigious fighting career to one filled with significance and impact. Lamas shares his path from being inspired as a child by martial arts films to his success in the UFC and his decision to retire on a high note. Transitioning into entrepreneurship, he and his business partner opened one of the five fighter-owned UFC gyms, focusing on not just fitness but shaping the youth through martial arts. Lamas emphasizes the role martial arts play in building confidence and discipline among children and how his failures and the influential coaches in his life have sculpted his vision for success beyond the fighting world. This episode is a deep dive into how redefining relationships with work, money, and purpose can lead to a life of greater impact. 03:03 The Early Sparks of a Fighter: Ricardo's Childhood and Martial Arts Journey 05:01 The Wrestling Years: Building Resilience and Chasing Dreams 08:25 Entering the World of Professional Fighting: The MMA Debut 15:17 The UFC Journey: Challenges, Triumphs, and the Role of Coaches 21:16 Reflecting on Influential Coaches and the Impact of Mentorship 24:03 The Impact of a Legendary Coach 24:47 Choosing Between a Dream and Education 26:49 Family Support and the UFC Journey 27:37 Contemplating Retirement and Life After Fighting 33:53 Transitioning to Entrepreneurship: Opening a UFC Gym 36:55 Fulfillment Beyond the Ring: Coaching and Community Impact 43:14 Dream Jobs and Personal Passions 47:04 Reflections and Advice for Future Generations Connect with Ricardo Lamas // Follow Ricardo Lamas on Instagram: www.instagram.com/ricardolamasmma // Follow Ricardo Lamas Gym on Instagram: www.instagram.com/ufcgymnaperville Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy/  Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.    

In this episode, Tim chats with Brian Portnoy about how he's quit everything he's ever started, a great story for any entrepreneur or business owner. Listen in as the delve into the depths of finding meaning amidst life's chaos and uncertainty, while also exploring Brian's groundbreaking work in behavioral finance. Discover how to align passions with purpose, navigate challenges with grace, and craft a life filled with fulfillment and joy, all while making informed investment decisions. 📒 Show Notes and Resources 📒 01:05 Deep Dive into Financial Wellbeing with Brian Portnoy 03:13 Brian Portnoy's Personal Journey and the Genesis of His Writing Career 17:34 The Evolution of Financial Advice: From Transactions to Relationships 23:33 Embracing the Role of Guide: Financial Advisors as Life's Helpers 28:00 The Entrepreneurial Journey: From Concept to Impact 30:31 The Rise of Behavioral Finance in Wealth Management 31:35 Demand for Behavioral Insights and the Launch of Immersive Coaching 33:28 Introducing the Outsourced Chief Behavioral Officer 35:43 Expanding Access to Behavioral Finance Tools 36:10 Addressing Loneliness and Building Community 43:25 Generosity and Its Impact on Personal and Family Life 54:02 Concluding Thoughts and Where to Find More Connect with Brian Portnoy // 📘 Get Brian's latest book The Geometry of Wealth https://a.co/d/6V7SpAp // Follow Brian on 𝑿: https://x.com/brianportnoy // Send this link to your Wealth Advisor: https://www.shapingwealth.com/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy/  Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode, Tim talks to former All-Pro NFL Running Back and entrepreneur Justin Forsett about overcoming adversity, managing money with generosity and wisdom, and preparing for life's big transitions, like retirement. 1:23 - Justin's Story 11:21 - Being a Box-Breaker 16:00 - Navigating New Money 23:22 - Money Is a Tool 28:49 - Time to Transition 38:24 - Famous In Your Home 44:04 - Hustle Clean 47:28 - Giving Back 55:30 - Time for Fun Questions 1:02:01 - One Thing You Love LINKS: Connect with Justin Forsett // https://hustleclean.com [email protected] - Shower to the People contributions // Free Play Charity Convoy of Hope https://convoyofhope.org/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy/  Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

In this episode, Tim talks to special guest David Nurse, bestselling author of Pivot and Go, keynote speaker, and life optimization coach. 1:04 - What's David about? 5:46 - Not everyone will like you... 8:24 - Deep Dive on Tim 12:50 - Generosity 15:45 - Defining "Retirement" 23:38 - Overcoming Fear of Approval 30:40 - Time for Fun Questions 37:49 - One Thing You Love Connect with David Nurse Buy David's new book NOW and get a free talk for you and your team → https://www.davidnurse.com/ Links: https://generouscoffee.com/ Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy/  Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.

Welcome to Wealth Beyond Riches, a podcast aimed at reimagining your relationship with work and money. This show goes beyond typical finance discussions, diving into the deeper aspects of purpose, meaning, and impact. Featuring guest stories and insights, it explores how redefining success and understanding one's calling can lead to a more impactful and fulfilling life. Subscribe and join us on the journey towards a richer, more meaningful existence, with each episode inspiring you to move your life 1 percent closer to your true purpose. Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9Rjx6d1QgpnT8gdDHyTJFi9naisYjt1A Connect With Tim Meisenheimer ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/tim.meisy ➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/meisy ============================= 📱 Subscribe and Listen to the Wealth Beyond Riches Podcast HERE: ============================= Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wealth-beyond-riches/id1741606815 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2GCc767IJ5uFNxo7naWwGD?si=c9c632221e1b4e6c