173. Theft (Extended)

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit overthinkpod.substack.comThou shalt not miss this episode! In episode 173 of Overthink, Ellie and David talk about theft. They discuss our moral intuitions around theft, how feudalism and capitalism may be founded upon an original (and large scale) act that of theft, and the gendered association between kleptomania and women. They also critique the lack of legal repercussions for tech companies that steal information to train new AI models. Finally, they look at representations of theft and capital in film and television. What does the move from heist films to grift docudramas say about 21st century capitalism? And why do we love to take the side of thieves? In the Substack bonus segment, your hosts discuss the ethics of stealing from large corporations.Go to Quince.com/overthink for free shipping on your orders and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Go to Rula.com/overthink for convenient therapy that’s covered by insurance.Works Discussed:Elaine Abelson, When Ladies Go A-Thieving: Middle-Class Shoplifters in the Victorian Department StoreAnna Kornbluh “Falling Heists, Rising Grift: Filming Capital in the Already Long Twenty-First Century”Robert Nichols, Theft Is Property! Dispossession and Critical TheoryHighlight: Expropriation* Expropriation essentially refers to the fact that the sovereign has the right to appropriate property for the common good* All the land in a kingdom belongs to the king, so they can do whatever they want with it* There were still some limits to expropriation, even within the feudal system* Expropriation had to:* Be for the common good* Lead to fair compensation of the impacted parties* If those two conditions aren’t met, then the expropriation is not justified* Nowadays, we usually use the term eminent domain for this concept* There is a legal process laid out for what the state should pay in exchange for private land