EPISODE · Oct 8, 2023 · 32 MIN

Backwards Baby Birding Pt 1

from Terrible Person · host Terrible Person

Gary and Selena return after a week off and immediately unpack local backlash, online complaints, and what it feels like when someone decides they have a problem with you for reasons that are never fully explained. The conversation drifts into the strange comfort of live television, commercials, and the chaos of channel surfing before spiraling into lottery logic, Powerball fantasies, and a sincere attempt to communicate with the future for winning numbers.From there, Gary and Selena break down the Netflix true crime documentary Ice Cold, digging into the coffee poisoning case, the surveillance gaps, and how fast a normal moment can turn into a murder investigation. That leads into a discussion about pageant corruption, the Miss USA and Miss Universe scandal, and the unexpected twist involving new ownership that changes how the entire system operates. The tone darkens as they talk about chiropractors, workplace creep behavior, and how oversharing personal trauma can hijack casual conversations. Gary and Selena also vent about ASMR culture, whisper content, mic’d up body sounds, and why the internet’s obsession with sensory noise feels impossible to escape. A quick check in on Jared Leto, conspiracy thinking, and the mental exhaustion of current events closes the episode as they rush out the door for dinner.