Bonus Episode: Rethinking Work, Meaning, and the Future of Place

Send us Fan MailIn this first bonus episode of That Workplace Experience Podcast, host Dan Moscrop is joined by Simon Jordan and Gerry Hopkinson of We Make Progress — a design anthropology and experience strategy studio working across cities, venues and mixed-use developments.Together, they explore a provocative idea:What if we’ve been designing workplaces the wrong way around?From fluid identity and hybrid work to the limits of “human-centric design,” this conversation challenges the assumption that efficiency equals growth.They unpack:The “Explore vs Exploit” theory of workWhy meaning matters more than corporate purposeWhy buildings shouldn’t organise peopleHow participation and stewardship shape long-term successWhy places should behave more like living ecologies than static systemsThis episode steps back from a single project to examine the cultural forces reshaping work, cities and experience today.Watch the episode and download the Workbook for a deeper dive into the episode, and We Make Progress. Video production and camera: Calum LindsayCamera: Miguel Santa ClaraIllustration: Phoebe Gitsham