Ep. 09: Ben Klutsey on the Power of Pluralism

In this episode, we're joined by Ben Klutsey of the Mercatus Center to discuss pluralism, politics, and parenting. Ben shares his background and personal experiences that fueled his passion for pluralism, including his childhood experiences in Germany contrasted against his warm welcome in Appleton, Wisconsin. He delves into his academic and professional journey exploring pluralism, informed by luminaries like John Izu and through extensive conversations with scholars and public intellectuals. The conversation also touches on how pluralism can be practiced through innovative approaches like the Pluralist Lab and the importance of fostering virtues and curiosity in children. Ben's hopeful outlook on America's resilient spirit and the potential for fostering a more inclusive and understanding society wraps up our discussion.00:00 Introduction and Guest Background01:46 Early Experiences with Pluralism06:10 Academic and Professional Journey07:56 The Pluralism Summit and Practical Applications12:09 Fostering Curiosity and Engagement14:56 The Pluralist Lab Explained17:26 Challenges in Political Dialogue27:17 The Role of Competition and Cooperation28:14 Understanding Political and Affective Polarization28:48 Breaking Down Meta Perceptions30:02 The Complexity of Human Interactions32:21 Parenting and Virtues33:52 Balancing Virtues in Society36:20 The Importance of Pluralism40:39 Feedback and Perspective Taking49:06 Optimism and Hope for the Future This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wemadethispolitical.substack.com