The anti-hypergrowth SaaS: build a business you want to run | Joel Griffith @browserless

•saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/, a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #13 of season 6, Anna Nadeina talks with Joel Griffith, founder of browserless, a cloud-based headless browser-as-a-service platform that allows developers to run automated browser tasks.Joel Griffith didn’t start in tech, he was a professional jazz musician.Today, he runs browserless, a browser automation infrastructure powering AI agents, bots, scraping systems, and developer tools worldwide.In this episode, we cover:• What “headless browser” actually means (without jargon)• Why Joel chose to bootstrap instead of raising VC• Growing to $1M ARR without a marketer• Open source as a growth engine• Rewriting the entire product to eliminate technical debt• AI, automation, and whether bots are good or bad• The emotional reality of hiring, firing, and founder lifeIf you're building a devtool, infra SaaS, or considering rewriting your codebase - this one’s for you.Joel Griffith - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-griffith-93933332/Browserless - https://www.browserless.ioSubscribe to our channel to be the first to see the interviews that we publish - https://www.youtube.com/@saas-groupStay up to date:Twitter: https://twitter.com/SaaS_groupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/14790796