XXVII: 54 Years Apart: What Only Experience Teaches | Nigel Seale

Nigel Seale is 75. I’m 21. We met stocking shelves at a grocery store, bonded over jazz and prog, and never once went below the surface. So I asked him one question about music and let it run for two hours.What came back was faith, gratitude, and a state of mind he calls living in the wish fulfilled. He grew up Catholic, stopped believing the doctrine, but says he is still an altar boy inside. He chaired Earth Day internationally and met the people who started it. He has been married four times. He says there are hardly any real elders left, and that it is young people who make one.Music as medicine, not entertainmentWhy suffering is unavoidable but not necessaryFaith that outlived the doctrineLiving in the wish fulfilled, explainedCapture the fort, and the lionsThe deathbed scene his father taught himWhy elders are made by the youngIf this one lands, send it to someone 50 years older or younger than you.---Music by Isaac Haines: https://isaachaines.ca/ Dig Deeper Into All Things Kaizen: https://linktr.ee/zacarnold---Timestamps0:00:00-0:01:52 Intro0:01:52-0:06:46 The only question I prepared, and where it took him0:06:46-0:11:00 Is the feeling in the music, or is it in you0:11:00-0:15:01 Miles Davis played with his back to the room0:15:01-0:19:40 You can’t make the muse show up0:19:40-0:27:26 Why suffering is unavoidable but not necessary.0:27:26-0:32:19 The radio call that decided the rest of his life0:32:19-0:39:11 Still an altar boy inside, not a believer.0:39:11-0:45:36 The figure on the log, and the book thirty years later0:45:36-0:51:36 Living in the wish fulfilled0:51:36-1:01:32 Why some people seem to get all the breaks1:01:32-1:08:13 Don’t look at the lions1:08:13-1:14:32 Capture the fort, and the state nothing can touch1:14:32-1:20:27 The ones who get the most are the ones who want it least1:20:27-1:23:11 There are hardly any real elders left1:23:11-1:27:55 The deathbed scene his father taught him1:27:55-1:36:13 Connections made through Earth Day1:36:13-1:43:43 Why he refused to green stamp companies1:43:43-1:51:15 Is emotional growth the same as spiritual growth1:51:15-2:01:00 A ridiculous optimist looks at a burning world2:01:00-2:11:19 The question nobody has ever asked him