Beneath the Surface Podcast

What happens when Jesus doesn’t simply improve your life—but rebuilds it from the foundation up?In this episode, Christie sits down with husband-and-wife team Sutton and Rachel Ward for an honest conversation about addiction, sobriety, health, purpose, marriage, and the restoring power of Jesus Christ.Rachel and Sutton share their journey of overcoming health challenges and finding strength in faith and prayer. The conversation covers Rachel's health struggles, the diagnosis and prognosis, navigating treatment and lifestyle changes, working with family and faith, and a health crisis with divine intervention. The chapters cover the fight for life, the turning point, the diagnosis and hospitalization, the journey to recovery, the role of faith and determination, the impact of water and healing, the spiritual and mental transformation, and the discovery of healing water. Together, Sutton and Rachel are the team behind High Vibration Hydration, a movement rooted in the belief that lasting transformation begins by addressing the foundation: your water, your body, your purpose, and—most importantly—your relationship with God.We also discuss why caring for our physical health matters when we want to fulfill the purpose God has placed on our lives. Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, and stewardship isn’t about perfection—it’s about becoming healthy, present, and available for what God is calling us to do.No matter how broken the foundation may feel, Jesus is still in the business of restoration. Your past does not disqualify you, and the places that once held pain can become part of the testimony God uses to reach someone else.Connect with Sutton and Rachel:Instagram:Rachel — @heyrachel.wardSutton — @svtton_wardHigh Vibration Hydration:www.highvibrationhydration.comMartin’s Water Treatment:www.martinswatertreatment.comListen, share, and send this episode to someone who needs the reminder that Jesus can rebuild everything.

What happens when a spiritual experience that promises healing, enlightenment, and freedom becomes something much darker?In this episode of Beneath the Surface, Christie sits down with Tyler Schoettle to hear his incredible testimony—from his younger years and spiritual searching to entering the world of ayahuasca, indigenous ceremonies, spirit guides, and eventually a spiritual battle that changed everything.Tyler shares how he believed he was connecting with spiritual beings that were guiding him toward truth. During an ayahuasca ceremony, however, he entered into an agreement with these entities—an agreement he would later come to understand very differently.What once appeared spiritual, enlightening, and even beautiful began revealing a much darker reality.Tyler opens up about the spiritual attacks that followed, the deception he experienced, and the moment he began recognizing that the beings he believed were helping him were not what they claimed to be. And ultimately, he shares how Jesus Christ changed the entire story.We talk about:• Tyler’s life before ayahuasca and what led him to seek deeper spiritual experiences• His involvement with ayahuasca ceremonies and indigenous spiritual practices• The “spirit guides” and entities he encountered• The agreement he made during ceremony and why he describes it as signing away his soul• The spiritual attacks that followed• How something that appeared to offer healing became deception• The moment Tyler began questioning who—or what—he was actually communicating with• Spiritual warfare and the reality behind counterfeit spirituality• How Jesus broke the agreement and brought Tyler back to truth• What Tyler would tell someone considering ayahuasca todayThis conversation isn’t about sensationalizing the supernatural. It’s about asking a deeper question:Just because something is spiritual… does that mean it comes from God?The Bible warns us to “test the spirits to see whether they are from God.” — 1 John 4:1Tyler’s story is a powerful reminder that not every spiritual experience is what it appears to be—and that no agreement, deception, bondage, or darkness is beyond the authority of Jesus Christ.If this episode makes you think of someone who is exploring ayahuasca, psychedelics, New Age spirituality, spirit guides, manifestation, or alternative spiritual practices, send it to them.And if Tyler’s story resonates with you, tell us in the comments: Have you ever experienced something that initially felt spiritual or good, but later realized it wasn’t what you thought it was?🎙️ Beneath the Surface PodcastReal Stories. Biblical Truth. Deeper Questions.👉Subscribe for more conversations about faith, testimony, spiritual warfare, biblical truth, and the things happening beneath the surface.#BeneathTheSurfacePodcast #Ayahuasca #JesusChrist #SpiritualWarfare #ChristianTestimony

When everything falls apart...Christie sits down with Joslyn Nicholson for a raw conversation about childhood loss, trauma, addiction, abuse, and the long road back to peace. Joslyn shares how Jesus met her in the middle of chaos and how healing has become both deeply spiritual and deeply embodied.This episode matters for anyone who feels stuck, spiritually exhausted, or unsure why prayer alone has not shifted their pain. Christie and Joslyn talk candidly about nervous system healing, deliverance, and what lasting freedom can actually look like.Key topicsJoslyn shares that her trauma began at age 5, when she learned her mother was dying of cancer and had to process that loss as a child.She describes how her mother’s faith shaped her early life, including nightly prayer and Bible reading, and how that spiritual foundation stayed with her even in darkness.In this episode, Joslyn explains how her mother’s death led to severe anxiety, insomnia, phobias, disordered eating, and a growing desperation to reconnect with her.She opens up about turning to witchcraft, Ouija boards, and the occult in childhood and early adolescence as a way to reach her mother.Joslyn shares how grief, dysfunction, and lack of emotional safety at home contributed to rebellion, drug use, promiscuity, and a double life as a high-performing student and athlete.She recounts a violent abusive relationship in adulthood, including stalking, manipulation, sexual degradation, and being held at gunpoint.Christie and Joslyn discuss the difference between spiritual warfare and trauma responses, and why some wounds cannot be healed by prayer alone if the root is never addressed.Joslyn explains her work in trauma-informed Christian coaching, including inner healing, somatic tools, prophetic prayer, and deliverance.She describes how she uses gentle regulation, body awareness, and Holy Spirit-led prayer to help clients move through shutdown, fear, rejection, and fragmentation.Christie and Joslyn both emphasize that healing is not just “trying harder” spiritually. It is a process of truth replacing lies, safety replacing shame, and Christ meeting people at the root.Key frameworksHealing the root, not just the symptomRegulation before revelationTrauma-informed ministry that makes room for the Holy SpiritGentle somatic work with prayer and prophetic listeningDeliverance as both spiritual warfare and inner restorationNotable quotes“Stay close to Jesus. Always stay close to Jesus.”“Healing is experiencing God where it used to feel unsafe.”“You were not made for this. You were made for more.”Action itemsIf prayer, fasting, and Bible reading have not brought lasting change, consider whether a deeper wound needs attention.Look for trauma-informed support that also makes room for faith and prayer.Stop minimizing pain just because someone else “had it worse.”Pay attention to patterns of shutdown, hypervigilance, and rumination as possible signs of unresolved trauma.Seek spaces where you can be seen, heard, and witnessed without judgment.Follow Joslyn for true trauma healing on Instagram @joslyncreates or joslyncreates.storeFull Video Episodes on YouTube @Beneath-the_Surface_podcastFollow BTS on Socials:Instagram: @bneath.the.surfaceTikTok: @beneath.the.surface.podX: @BeneathSurfPodFacebook: Beneath The Surface Podcast

Olivia shares her journey from witchcraft and the occult to encountering Jesus in the midst of a ritual. She describes her experiences with new age practices, demonic encounters, and the deceptive allure of the occult. Her encounter with Jesus brought peace and fulfillment, leading to a transformation in her life. She also discusses the counterfeit nature of the occult and the requirement of repentance in the kingdom of God. The conversation delves into the challenges of trusting in an unseen God, the journey to finding freedom in Christ, and the establishment of a biblical trauma-informed ministry. It also explores the importance of renewing the mind with scripture and the need for equipping churches to address trauma and abuse. The conversation delves into the importance of a supernatural worldview and a kingdom perspective, the significance of raising a generation of spiritual warriors, and the need for spiritual healing and preparation for the end times.TakeawaysEncountering Jesus in the midst of darkness can bring overwhelming peace and love.The occult offers a counterfeit of the kingdom of God, lacking the requirement of repentance.Freedom in Christ comes from knowing God's character and nature, and renewing the mind with scripture is essential for experiencing this freedom.Equipping churches to address trauma and abuse in a biblical way is crucial for helping individuals who have experienced hardship. Supernatural worldview and kingdom perspective are essential for spiritual understanding.Spiritual healing and preparation for the end times are important aspects of faithHow the law of attraction, visualization, and "energy work" opened the door to deeper occult practices.Why counterfeit spiritual experiences can feel loving, safe, and even holy.How new age teachings keep people trapped on a hamster wheel of pain, trauma, and escalationThe difference between spiritual encounters without repentance and true freedom in Christ.Chapters00:00 Encountering Jesus in the Occult05:03 The Deceptive Allure of the Occult10:06 The Counterfeit Nature of the Occult20:04 The Requirement of Repentance35:53 Trusting in an Unseen God39:02 Journey to Freedom in Christ43:13 Establishing a Biblical Trauma-Informed Ministry01:00:47 Supernatural Worldview and Kingdom Perspective01:01:14 Raising a Generation of Spiritual Warriors01:03:25 Spiritual Healing and Preparation for the End TimesMelissa and Christie also unpack the role of trauma, attachment, and false religion in shaping how people see God. Olivia shares how a Christian coffee shop friend, Jerilyn, changed everything simply by loving her first, praying for her, and eventually leading her to Jesus.The conversation goes even deeper into what freedom in Christ actually feels like, why renewing your mind with Scripture is non-negotiable, and how Olivia's story led her into biblical counseling, Bible college, and ministry work through Wall of Fire. https://walloffire-ohio.orgIf you've ever wondered why the occult feels so alluring, why so many people are drawn to new age spirituality, or how God really rescues someone from deception, this episode will challenge you, encourage you, and point you back to the only truth that actually sets people free.Olivia [email protected]

Are Modern Festivals and Concerts Echoes of Ancient Worship?Explore how today's festivals and concerts may be more than just entertainment, they could be manifestations of ancient rituals and spiritual warfare. The origins of festivals: from Mesopotamian rituals to pagan traditionsThe biblical perspective on God's festivals versus pagan festivalsThe spiritual symbolism in modern concerts and festivals, including frequency, imagery, and ritual elementsThe role of music, dance, and symbols in spiritual and occult practicesThe dangers of altered states, portal opening, and the influence of demonic or spiritual realm contact during large gatheringsThe significance of counterfeit festivals and their connection to occult deities like Baal, Moloch, and IshtarThe influence of the supernatural in modern pop culture, including artists like Beyonce and Taylor SwiftThe biblical warnings against idolatry and worship of celestial bodiesCase study: The AstroWorld tragedy and its possible spiritual underpinningsLeviticus 23 - God's Festival commandsDeuteronomy 4:19 - Warnings against idolatryRomans 1:18-25 - The critique of worshiping creationLaura Sanger on Frequencies - The impact of tuning on health and consciousnessCERN Official Website - The particle collider often associated with portalsAstroworld Incident Reports - Details on the 2021 disaster

Lilith Exposed | Origins, Myth & the Demonic AgendaWho is Lilith? Is she really Adam’s first wife, or is that one of the most widespread myths in modern culture?In this episode of Beneath the Surface, we separate biblical truth from centuries of folklore, mythology, and occult tradition. We trace Lilith’s origins from ancient Mesopotamian culture through Jewish tradition, examine the only place the name “Lilith” appears in the Bible, and discuss how her story has evolved into a powerful symbol within New Age spirituality, witchcraft, and popular culture.We’ll explore questions like:Is Lilith actually found in Scripture?Where did the story of Adam’s “first wife” originate?What does Isaiah 34 really say?How do ancient Mesopotamian beliefs connect to Lilith?Why has modern culture embraced her as a symbol of empowerment?What can Christians learn about spiritual discernment from this topic?We’ll also examine the broader biblical themes of rebellion, deception, spiritual warfare, and the importance of testing every claim against God’s Word. Rather than building doctrine on folklore or internet speculation, we’ll look carefully at the historical context, the Hebrew text, and what Scripture clearly teaches.Whether you’ve heard Lilith discussed in connection with ancient mythology, occult practices, feminism, or spiritual warfare, this conversation will equip you to think critically and biblically about one of history’s most mysterious figures.“Test everything; hold fast what is good.” — 1 Thessalonians 5:21If this episode encourages you, be sure to like, subscribe, and share so more people can discover the truth beneath the surface.#Lilith #SpiritualWarfare #BeneathTheSurface #ChristianPodcast #BiblicalTruth #AncientHistory #Isaiah34 #SpiritualDiscernment #BibleStudy #Occult #Mythology #JesusChrist #Faith #Apologetics #Deliverance

This episode of Beneath the Surface Melissa and Christie dive into the themes of repentance, forgiveness, and the role of faith in finding freedom from spiritual oppression. The conversation delves into the process of deliverance and the steps involved in achieving freedom from strongholds and generational patterns. It emphasizes the importance of forgiveness, renouncing sin, breaking strongholds, and receiving the Holy Spirit's healing. The legacy of faith and healing is discussed, highlighting the impact on future generations.TakeawaysSpiritual deliverance involves repentance, forgiveness, and a deep commitment to faith.Confession of sin brings darkness into the light and invites healing and accountability.Fear and anxiety are considered as sins and are rooted in a lack of faith. Forgiveness releases bitterness and aligns the heart with Christ's teachings.Renouncing sin involves rejecting previous influences and agreements with fear, lies, and ungodly practices.Deliverance involves breaking strongholds, commanding spirits to leave, and receiving the Holy Spirit's healing.The legacy of faith and healing impacts future generations, breaking generational patterns and creating a new trajectory of freedom and healing.Chapters00:00 The Role of Repentance and Forgiveness40:33 The Power of Forgiveness and Release50:11 Breaking Strongholds and Commanding Spirits01:00:28 Renouncing Sin and Receiving Healing01:10:57 Creating a New Legacy of Faith

In this powerful episode of Beneath the Surface, we dive deep into one of the most discussed yet often misunderstood topics in spiritual warfare: generational curses and strongholds. Are patterns of sin, trauma, addiction, broken relationships, or spiritual oppression truly passed down through family lines? What does the Bible actually say? And how do we find lasting freedom through Jesus?We explore key Scriptures like Exodus 20:5, Ezekiel 18, Galatians 3:13, and 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. Through honest conversation, personal stories, guest insights (if applicable), and biblical truth, we unpack how sin creates cycles—but Christ breaks them. This isn’t about superstition or fear; it’s about discernment, repentance, renewal of the mind, and walking in the victory already won at the cross. Whether you’re seeing repeating struggles in your family (addiction, poverty mindsets, anger, occult involvement, etc.) or want to leave a godly legacy, this episode equips you with truth and practical steps. The cycle stops here—in Jesus’ name.Key Takeaway: You are not doomed to repeat your family’s history. In Christ, you are a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). Generational patterns can be recognized, repented of, and replaced with blessing.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Generational Curses and Strongholds06:04 Breaking Generational Curses10:57 Biblical Concepts and Scriptures29:02 Personal Testimonies and Reflections36:07 Impact of Cultural Strongholds43:21 The Influence of Social Media on Identity49:26 The Impact of Self-Worth on Relationships55:30 The Power of Self-Talk and Forgiveness01:00:48 The Importance of Biblical Knowledge01:09:24 Creating a New Legacy of Freedom01:15:28 Empowering Future GenerationsWhat the Bible Says About Generational CursesThe primary verses are in the context of the Ten Commandments and God’s character:Exodus 20:5-6 (ESV): “You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.” Similar in Exodus 34:6-7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 5:9.Explanation:“Visiting iniquity” means God allows the natural consequences of sin to ripple through generations—learned behaviors, modeling, environmental factors, and sometimes spiritual oppression where doors were opened (e.g., idolatry, occult). It’s not God actively punishing innocent children, but the outworking of sin in a fallen world. Ezekiel 18:20 clarifies: “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father…” Each person is accountable. Understanding Strongholds (2 Corinthians 10:3-5)“For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ…”Prayer Against Curses and Strongholds : Heavenly Father, I come before You in the mighty name of Jesus. I repent for any sin in my life or in my family line that has opened doors to curses or strongholds. I renounce [name specific patterns: addiction, occult, fear, etc.]. I break every generational chain by the blood of Jesus. I declare I am a new creation. Every stronghold is torn down. Holy Spirit, fill me afresh. I choose blessing and obedience. Amen.

For years, Anastasia Gerali was deeply immersed in the New Age movement as a teacher, clinical hypnotherapist, and trauma specialist. What she thought was leading people to healing was actually leading her further from the truth. Then everything changed.After a powerful encounter with Jesus Christ, Anastasia walked away from New Age spirituality, soft occult practices, and the beliefs she once taught. Today, she helps women find true freedom through Christ, healing from trauma, and spiritual restoration.Join us as we dive deep into the transformative journey from New Age spirituality to a faith-based life in Christ. In this episode, Anastasia shares her powerful story of healing, deliverance, and the truth behind spiritual warfare. Discover how she helps women break free from trauma and align their lives with God's kingdom.* The hidden dangers of New Age practices* How trauma can make people vulnerable to spiritual deception* What led Anastasia to leave it all behind* Deliverance, healing, and finding freedom in Jesus* How to discern truth in a world full of counterfeitsThis is a conversation you won't want to miss.Tuesdays at 11:00 AM ETBeneath the Surface PodcastGuest: Anastasia Gerali Instagram @the.reborn.anastasiaTakeawaysNew Age DeceptionDangers of Manifestation Ayahuasca retreat experienceSpiritual journey and transformation Healing and deliverance through ChristUnderstanding the spiritual realmChapters00:00 New Age Spirituality and Manifestation08:47 The Spiritual Influence and Consequences15:56 The Journey into New Age Practices23:31 The Transition to Hypnotherapy and Light Language31:36 Ayahuasca and Spiritual Awakening42:25 Ayahuasca Retreat Experience57:03 Mental Health Struggles and Spiritual Awakening01:12:49 Theosis and Spiritual Freedom01:27:08 The Power of Christ's Sacrifice01:41:41 Healing, Deliverance, and Spiritual Understanding

What if the world around us is more than just what we can see? In this episode of Beneath the Surface, we dive into the mysteries of the unseen realm, the spiritual world operating beyond human eyes and what Scripture actually says about it. From angels and demons to spiritual warfare, principalities, deception, discernment, and the battle for influence over humanity, we explore the questions many people are afraid to ask inside the church. Christie and Melissa speak on spiritual warfare, exploring the unseen battle and the influence of spirits and divine beings. They also discuss the nature of angels and demons, idolatry, the supernatural in Christianity, the influence of shadim and demons, and the characteristics of named spirits like Ahab, Absalom, Python, Leviathan, religious, fear, poverty, familiar, and monitoring spirits. Are unseen forces affecting our thoughts, culture, and daily lives? What did ancient biblical writers understand about the spiritual realm that modern Christianity often avoids?And how do we stay grounded in truth instead of fear?We discuss:• What the Bible says about the unseen realm• Angels, fallen angels, and spiritual beings• Spiritual warfare and unseen influences• Discernment vs deception• Why people are becoming fascinated with the supernatural again• How faith in Jesus brings authority, peace, and clarity in spiritual darknessThis conversation goes beyond surface-level Christianity into the deeper spiritual realities woven throughout Scripture. Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or searching for answers, this episode challenges listeners to think critically, stay spiritually aware, and test everything against biblical truth.🎙️ Beneath the Surface is where we explore the topics many avoid — the hidden, the difficult, and the spiritual truths shaping the world around us.TakeawaysSpiritual WarfareNamed Spirits Spiritual forces and their impactRecognizing familiar spirits and their influence Territorial spiritsSpiritual mappingChapters00:00 Introduction to Spiritual Warfare11:39 The Nature of Angels and Demons17:21 The Influence of Shadim and Demons27:21 The Characteristics of Named Spirits48:46 Understanding Spiritual Forces53:48 The Python Spirit01:00:50 The Religious Spirit01:08:14 The Spirit of Poverty01:20:08 Territorial Spirits01:29:37 Spiritual Mapping

What if the days of Noah weren’t just a story about the past… but a warning for the future? In this episode of Beneath the Surface, we dive deep into one of the most controversial and fascinating questions in Scripture:Are we living in the days of Noah?Jesus Himself said in Matthew 24:37, “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.” But what exactly did He mean? Most people think Noah’s generation was only judged because of sin and wickedness. But when we begin digging beneath the surface of Genesis 6, the Book of Enoch, ancient civilizations, and the spiritual corruption happening before the flood, a much deeper picture starts to emerge.In this episode we explore:• The true conditions of the world before the flood• The Nephilim, giants, and the “sons of God” in Genesis 6• The Watchers and forbidden knowledge given to humanity• Why Noah was described as “perfect in his generations”• The explosion of violence, corruption, confusion, and moral decay in modern culture• The obsession with transhumanism, genetic manipulation, AI, and playing “god”• Whether ancient rebellion is repeating itself in new forms today• Spiritual deception, distractions, and the battle for truth• Why so many people feel like something is deeply “off” in the world right now• How biblical prophecy connects to our current generation• Why discernment and knowing God’s Word matters more than everWe also talk about the parallels many believers are beginning to notice between Noah’s time and today’s world — not to create fear, but to encourage people to wake up spiritually, seek truth, and stay grounded in Jesus Christ.This conversation goes beyond surface-level Christianity and asks the hard questions many churches avoid discussing:What was really happening before the flood?Why did God reset the earth?Could history be repeating itself?And how do we live faithfully in a world filled with deception, confusion, and spiritual warfare?Whether you’re new to these topics or have spent years studying the unseen realm, this episode will challenge you to think deeper, test everything against Scripture, and consider what it truly means to be living in prophetic times.If you’ve ever felt like the world is changing rapidly… if you’ve questioned what’s happening spiritually beneath the surface… or if you’ve wondered whether biblical warnings are unfolding in real time — this episode is for you.🎙️ Join us LIVE as we unpack ancient mysteries, biblical prophecy, spiritual warfare, the days of Noah, Genesis 6, giants, Nephilim, and the unseen battle happening all around us.📖 Key Scriptures Discussed:Genesis 6Matthew 24Luke 172 Peter 2Jude 1⚠️ Disclaimer:This episode contains theological discussion, biblical interpretation, and exploration of ancient texts and ideas. We encourage listeners to study Scripture for themselves, seek discernment, and test all things through the Word of God.#DaysofNoah #Genesis6 #Nephilim #SpiritualWarfare #BiblicalProphecy #EndTimes #BookOfEnoch #Giants #Jesus #BeneathTheSurfaceChapters00:00 Living in the Days of Noah34:28 Biblical Love vs. Lust40:14 The Mysticism of Merkaba45:31 The Connection to Sacred Geometry55:07 The Great Deception of Aliens01:11:05 The Intersection of Technology and Spirituality01:17:05 The Disconnection from Other Realms and the Third Eye01:22:33 The End Times and the Importance of Faith01:29:47 The Power of Jesus and Overcoming Fear01:39:29 Exploring the Influence of New Age and Spiritual Doors

Are fairytales actually stories passed down from generations that encountered the Nephilim before and after the flood? Melissa and Christie explore the comparison of biblical stories with oral traditions, exploring supernatural events and their impact. They cover topics such as divine direction and confirmation, the corruption of mankind, the Sons of God and daughters of men, the Watchers pact of defilement and corruption, the Bible and supernatural events, understanding the -ites and -ims, the OGs and their stature, the giants after the flood, the terrifying giants and their impact, and the reality of David and Goliath. They go into the biblical story of David and Goliath, exploring the legendary battle, David's superhuman feat, and the aftermath of the battle. They also connect ancient myths to biblical narratives, discussing the significance of the flood and the disobedience of King Saul. The ancient legends and common themes, global flood narratives, corruption and defilement in ancient cultures, the occult and half-man, half-beast archetypes, the flood and divine selection, ancient gods in modern entertainment, mythological demigods and creatures, symbolism and satanic figures, sirens and giants, the theranthrope and defilement of the human, the word 'El' and supernatural entities, Mount Hermon and spiritual warfare, Jesus and the gates of hell, supernatural beings and forbidden knowledge, and the Met Gala and deception.TakeawaysBiblical comparison to oral traditionsSupernatural events and their impact The significance of the biblical story of David and GoliathThe connection between ancient myths and biblical narratives Common themes in ancient legendsGlobal flood narrativesCorruption and defilement in ancient culturesChapters00:00 The Reality of David and Goliath39:22 David's Superhuman Feat01:02:42 Ancient Legends and Common Themes01:08:02 Ancient Gods in Modern Entertainment01:13:36 The Word 'El' and Supernatural Entities01:21:16 Jesus and the Gates of Hell01:31:05 The Met Gala and Deception

Melissa and Christie's conversation delves into the exploration of spirit-led living, the influence of spiritual practices, testing the spirits, and the distinction between being spiritual vs spiritually led. They go into the details of the dangers of seeking spiritual knowledge and the deception of the enemy. The influence of the Holy Spirit and gifted prophets are truly God given gifts that are there to help guide us. We need to learn how to use discernment to decipher between the "kind of spirit" are we listening to. There are costs of seeking information outside of God. The deceptive nature of dark paths, and the allure of witchcraft in popular culture, including the acceptance of witchcraft by celebrities make it very enticing to want that kind of power and control of your life. Bottom line is Christ is King and all of the other voices are there to get you to rely on yourself instead of seeking Him. If you are into the new age culture, divine feminine movement, or witchcraft this episode is one that hopefully will shine light on what is really behind it all. TakeawaysDiscernment in spiritual mattersThe influence of spiritual practices on individuals Discerning the spiritual realmBy practicing in the new age it will open doors that you don't want openThe spirits that come through are actually demonsThe Holy Spirit is the only Spirit to listen toChapters00:00 Exploring Spirit-Led Living07:02 Testing the Spirits17:07 The Power of Christ and the Deception of the Enemy22:33 Gifted Prophets and the Influence of the Holy Spirit29:00 The Allure of Witchcraft in Popular Culture35:31 Discerning the Spiritual Realm

What does it actually mean to be made in the image of God and what happens when we start conforming to other images?In this episode of Beneath the Surface, Melissa and Christie dive into one of the most foundational truths in Scripture: humanity was created to reflect God. But from the garden to today, there has always been a battle over identity, worship, and image.We talk about how idols are not just ancient statues or carved images — they can also be approval, success, beauty, power, comfort, fear, control, culture, or anything else that begins shaping us more than God does.Together, we explore questions like:What does “image of God” really mean?How do idols form us without us realizing it?Are we reflecting God’s truth, or conforming to the world around us?How do we return to our true identity in Christ?We go beneath the surface of identity, worship, spiritual formation, and the unseen battle over who we are becoming.Scripture references may include:Genesis 1:26–27Romans 12:22 Corinthians 3:18Colossians 1:15Ephesians 4:22–24Psalm 115:4–8If you’ve ever questioned who you are, what you were created for, or why the world is constantly trying to define you — this episode is for you.Listen now and let’s go deeper.TakeawaysImportance of historical context in understanding biblical conceptsThe concept of transformation and reflection in bearing the image of God The uniqueness of humans in their ability to communicate with GodThe impact of distractions and pace of life on spiritual growthChapters00:00 Exploring the Image of God06:59 Bearing the Image of God14:55 Reflection and Transformation22:04 Choice and Free Will28:58 Constant Creation in His Image36:32 The Image of God and Spiritual Relationship42:14 The Jealousy of Angels and Spiritual Battle53:38 The Refiner's Fire and Daily Choices01:04:46 Community Engagement and Guest Announcements

The hosts, Melissa and Christie, discuss their journey of faith, spiritual awakening, and the exploration of biblical concepts. They share personal experiences, challenges, and the significance of spiritual warfare in their lives. The conversation delves into the purpose of their podcast and the need for a biblical perspective on spiritual matters. The conversation delves into the journey of faith, spiritual exploration, and the quest for understanding biblical truths. It explores personal experiences, emotional breakthroughs, and the impact of external events on spiritual growth. The speakers express a desire to share insights, shed light on spiritual battles, and engage with the audience in a quest for deeper understanding.TakeawaysExploration of faith and spiritual awakeningSignificance of spiritual warfare and biblical perspective Encouragement to ask hard questions and seek understandingExploration of theological truths and spiritual insightsChapters00:00 The Genesis of the Podcast08:39 Purpose of the Podcast16:36 Spiritual Warfare and Awakening22:17 Studying the Bible and Spiritual Battle28:40 Spiritual Exploration and Influence of the 80s41:20 Biblical Insights and Spiritual Warfare47:43 Call to Action and Engagement with AudiencePlease follow, like and share with others wanting to go beneath the surface.YouTube @Beneath The Surface PodcastInstagram @bneath.the.surfaceX @BeneathSurfPodTIkTok @beneath.the.surface.pod