PODCAST · health
Better Than Fine With Darlene Marshall
by Darlene Marshall
Work or school, family , social pressure and stress can strain our pursuit of a fulfilling life. Better Than Fine explores fitness, wellness, and well-being with a mix of Positive Psychology, wellness coaching, fitness, nutrition, and more to find what it means to thrive in the intensity of today's world.Host Darlene Marshall is an expert in wellness and well-being. A wellness coach with a decade of experience coaching and facilitating workshops, guiding clients and students to build fulfilling lives that work for their unique needs and live better than fine. On the NASM Podcasting Network.
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Hope as a Tool in Your Wellness Journey
Are you struggling to find hope in difficult times? In this empowering episode of “Better Than Fine,” award-winning wellbeing expert Darlene Marshall dives deep into hope as a process, not just a feeling. Drawing from lived experience, grief, and the science of positive psychology, Darlene Marshall shares practical, evidence-based tools to help you thrive—even when life feels overwhelming. ✨ What you’ll learn in this episode: · Why “toxic positivity” can be harmful, and how real hope is different · Powerful frameworks like Snyder’s Hope Theory and the science of “regoaling” after loss · How to use hope as an active, actionable practice in your daily life · Simple strategies to move forward—no matter how small the steps · The importance of community and support in building resilience and hope Darlene opens up about personal grief, loss, and the anniversary of a loved one’s passing, connecting these experiences to global feelings of despair many are feeling right now. Through honest storytelling and research-backed insights, you’ll discover how moments of pain can fuel a “bloody-knuckled hope”—the kind that moves you forward, even on your hardest days. If you’re tired of empty platitudes and want tools for authentic hope, this episode is for you. Whether you’re facing grief, loss, life transitions, or simply seeking a new approach to wellbeing, she offers strategies you can use today. The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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Encore Presentation: Finding Reliable Wellness Information
Tired of misinformation in the wellness space? This episode from Better Than Fine dives deep into how to find reliable wellness information and avoid falling for myths, fads, and influencer hype. Host Darlene Marshall shares insider tips for fitness professionals, coaches, and anyone seeking trustworthy advice on fitness, nutrition, mental health, and self-care. 🎙️ What You'll Learn: · Why evidence-based wellness practices matter for your results and safety · The difference between anecdotal evidence and scientific research · How to spot credible wellness practitioners and red flags to watch for · What certifications and qualifications REALLY mean · How to evaluate sources, citations, and practitioner expertise· The ethical importance of only sharing what works · How influencers and “experts” might be motivated by sales or bias · How to protect yourself from wellness scams and unreliable advice 🔍 Key Topics Covered: · Finding expert-backed wellness strategies · The role of certifications in the wellness industry · Spotting science vs. self-help trends · Practical steps for researching wellness trends · Maintaining an evidence-based approach to coaching and practice · Admitting when science changes and staying open-minded The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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Does Sugar Really Make ADHD Worse? The Science Unpacked
Is sugar really to blame for ADHD symptoms getting worse? Or is it just another myth? In this eye-opening episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, award-winning well-being expert Darlene Marshall cuts through decades of misconceptions to reveal what science actually says about the sugar-ADHD connection. 👉 Highlights: · Introduction & episode background · Personal stories of ADHD across generations · How ADHD really works in the brain · The dopamine reward system and cravings explained · What studies reveal about sugar and ADHD symptoms ([2020 Meta-Analysis Review]) · Why sugar-sweetened beverages, not just sugar, matter most · Debunking myths: sugar doesn’t cause ADHD · The power of self-observation and harm reduction for ADHD management What You'll Learn: · The difference between correlation and causation in ADHD research · Why sugar-sweetened drinks might make ADHD symptoms worse—but it’s not the whole story · What this means for your daily choices and well-being · How compassion, curiosity, and harm reduction can help you (or someone you love) manage ADHD Perfect for: Anyone living with ADHD, parents, teachers, wellness enthusiasts, or anyone curious about how diet, sugar, and lifestyle factors impact brain health and behavior. The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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Encore Presentation: Toxic Positivity
Are you tired of "good vibes only" culture? Have you ever felt dismissed by well-meaning advice to "just stay positive" when you're struggling? In this episode of “Better Than Fine,” holistic wellness coach Darlene Marshall breaks down the harmful effects of toxic positivity and explains why embracing the full spectrum of human emotions is essential for real wellbeing. ✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode: · What exactly is toxic positivity and why is it such a big problem in fitness, wellness, and positive psychology? · The hidden dangers of ignoring or invalidating negative emotions · Real-life stories that reveal how positivity can go wrong—and how to do better · Powerful, actionable tools to replace toxic positivity with validation, self-compassion, and pragmatic optimism · How to support yourself and others through tough times—without fake smiles or forced gratitudeWhether you're a fitness professional, coach, or simply on a quest for genuine self-growth, this episode will help you break free from the pressure to always be “on” and discover healthier ways to process the full human experience. The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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The Overview Effect: Awe & Connection from Outer Space
Welcome to “Better Than Fine,” the award-winning podcast hosted by wellbeing expert and wellness coach Darlene Marshall! In this inspiring episode, Darlene dives deep into NASA’s Artemis II mission and unpacks the powerful human response known as the Overview Effect—the profound sense of awe experienced by astronauts when seeing Earth from space. Episode Highlights: · Journey of Artemis II: Relive the record-breaking 252,756-mile lunar orbit with Commander Reed Wiseman, Victor Glover Jr., Christina Koch, and Jeremy Hansen. · What is the Overview Effect? Discover how this mind-bending phenomenon rewires our sense of self, connects us to humanity, and sparks a desire to protect our “lifeboat” Earth. · Science of Awe & Positive Psychology: Learn how awe changes our mental models, triggers self-transcendence, and enhances meaning, purpose, and connection. · Collective Awe—Why It Matters: Explore how sharing awe-inspiring experiences strengthens community, reduces loneliness, and fuels hope—especially in challenging times. · From Inspiration to Action: Uncover research-backed ways to channel awe into positive action, forward motion, and pragmatic optimism. · Listener Takeaways: Practical tips for bringing more awe and connection into your everyday life. Why Watch? ⭐️ Get Inspired: Feel the chills as real astronaut quotes reveal how space travel transforms our understanding of life and purpose. ⭐️ Level Up Your Mindset: Darlene shares powerful evidence-based tools to recalibrate your thinking and boost resilience. ⭐️ Strengthen Your Wellbeing: Find out how to harness the science of awe for greater happiness, deeper connection, and meaningful action. Show References: Keltner, D. & Haidt, J. (2003). Approaching awe, a moral, spiritual, and aesthetic emotion. Cognition and Emotion, 17, 297–314. The foundational paper that defined awe scientifically — introducing the two core features of vastness and need for accommodation that underpin all subsequent awe research.https://doi.org/10.1080/02699930302297 Rudd, M., Vohs, K.D., & Aaker, J. (2012). Awe expands people's perception of time, alters decision making, and enhances well-being. Psychological Science, 23, 1130–1136. Demonstrated that awe — unlike happiness — makes people feel they have more time available, reduces impatience, and increases life satisfaction.https://doi.org/10.1177/0956797612438731 Yaden, D.B., Iwry, J., Slack, K.J., Eichstaedt, J.C., Zhao, Y., Vaillant, G.E., & Newberg, A.B. (2016). The overview effect: Awe and self-transcendent experience in space flight. Psychology of Consciousness: Theory, Research, and Practice, 3(1), 1–11.The primary academic framework for the Overview Effect — identifying awe, self-transcendence, and schema changes as the three psychological mechanisms behind what astronauts experience viewing Earth from space.https://doi.org/10.1037/cns0000086 Bai, Y., Maruskin, L.A., Chen, S., Gordon, A.M., Stellar, J.E., McNeil, G.D., Piff, P.K., & Keltner, D. (2017). Awe, the diminished self, and collective engagement: Universality and cultural variation in the small self. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 113(2), 185–209.Found that awe reliably shrinks self-referential thinking across cultures — people literally drew themselves smaller after experiencing awe — and increases feelings of connection to something larger.https://doi.org/10.1037/pspa0000087 Piff, P.K., Dietze, P., Feinberg, M., Stancato, D.M., & Keltner, D. (2015). Awe, the small self, and prosocial behavior. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 108(6), 883–899.Showed that awe reliably increases prosocial behavior — generosity, ethical decision-making, and concern for others — by reducing preoccupation with the individual self.https://doi.org/10.1037/pspi0000018 White, F. (2021). The Overview Effect: Space Exploration and Human Evolution (4th ed.). Multiverse Publishing.The original book that named and documented the Overview Effect through interviews with astronauts — still the definitive primary source on the phenomenon.https://www.amazon.com/Overview-Effect-Exploration-Human-Evolution/dp/1951480007 The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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Encore Presentation: Self-Compassion – Give Yourself a Break
Welcome to a powerful encore presentation of the “Better Than Fine” podcast. Hosted by wellness expert Darlene Marshall, this episode dives deep into self-compassion and the transformative tools you need to improve your mental health, resilience, and overall well-being.Are you your own worst critic? Do you struggle with negative self-talk and find it hard to treat yourself with kindness? In this special episode, you'll discover Kristin Neff’s three-point model of self-compassion, backed by science and practical wisdom to help you break free from self-judgment and thrive—even in life’s toughest moments. 🎧 In This Episode: · Speaker A shares her personal journey of overcoming self-criticism and how major life events can trigger negative self-talk. · Learn how to recognize when you’re being hard on yourself and actionable steps to shift to self-kindness. · Explore the three pillars of self-compassion: self-kindness, common humanity, and mindfulness. · Practical exercises and mindset shifts to boost your self-awareness and develop lasting emotional resilience. · Real-world strategies for coaches, fitness professionals, and anyone aspiring to LIVE BETTER, not just feel better. Why Watch/Listen? Whether you’re a fitness pro, coach, or simply looking for tools to get through tough times, this episode provides practical solutions and heart-driven insights for anyone ready to stop beating themselves up and start thriving. It’s time for a mindset reset—let’s get better than fine, together! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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What if Fitness Was About Feeling Good, Not Just Looking Good?
Are you tired of fitness routines focused only on aesthetics and performance? Ready to make your workouts actually serve your mental health and lifelong happiness? In this episode of the Better Than Fine Podcast, host and well-being expert Darlene Marshall dives deep into science-backed strategies for designing an exercise program with well-being as the ultimate fitness goal. 🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: · Why traditional fitness advice often misses the mark for supporting well-being · The latest research on how specific exercise intensity, duration, and type impact mood, resilience, and happiness · Why low- to moderate-intensity movement (even a walk!) can give you a massive well-being boost · How to overcome toxic gym culture and find empowering, enjoyable movement spaces—even outdoors! · The crucial roles of autonomy, choice, and environment in sticking to your movement practice long-term · Real client stories and practical steps to start a movement routine that supports your mental and emotional health 🎧 Whether you’re a fitness pro, someone with chronic illness, or simply want to feel better in your body—this episode is your go-to resource for blending positive psychology and movement! Resources Mentioned: · Systematic Review: “Exercise Prescriptions for Young People's Emotional Well Being” (April 2025) · Article: “Green Exercise as an Opportunity to Promote Equity...” (March 2024) · Motivation 101 Guide: Better Than Fine Substack If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/464tK4b
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Encore Presentation: Fat Bias & Public Health
Are you ready to break down the myths about body size, health, and fitness culture? In this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall dives deep with OG friend of the pod, Rich Fahmy—public health PhD candidate and content manager at NASM—to explore fat bias, weight stigma, and their impact on public health. ✔️ What Is Fat Bias? ✔️ How Does Weight Stigma Affect Everyone—NOT just those in larger bodies? ✔️ Why are fitness professionals, doctors, and policymakers still relying on outdated, flawed BMI metrics? ✔️ What does the evidence actually say about health at different body sizes? ✔️ The “Obesity Paradox”: Are heavier bodies sometimes more resilient in illness and older age? You’ll get: · Definitions and real-world examples of fatphobia and bias in healthcare. · Jaw-dropping evidence about how medical professionals’ bias leads to misdiagnosis, underdiagnosis—and even worsens health outcomes for everyone. · Eye-opening facts about metabolically healthy adults in larger bodies. · Insights into why shaming, weight cycling, and groupthink cause more harm than good. · A fresh perspective on why embracing a weight-neutral, evidence-based approach in fitness and wellness is the future. If you’re a coach, trainer, wellness pro—or just want to understand public health and body acceptance—this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew. ✨ Featuring actionable tips, honest stories, and resources to help you support ALL clients, regardless of size. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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GLP-1s: The End—or Evolution—of Body Positivity?
Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, hosted by award-winning wellbeing expert Darlene Marshall! This week, we dive deep into the evolving conversation around the body positivity movement in the age of GLP-1 medications—popularly known as weight loss drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy. 🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: · The origins and evolution of the body positivity movement · How GLP-1 weight loss medications are reshaping perceptions about body image and wellness · Insights from thought leaders like Gabriella Lescano, Virgie Tovar, and Aubrey Gordon · The difference between self-acceptance and collective social change in body positivity · Why BMI is an unreliable indicator of health and what you should be focusing on instead · The new role of exercise beyond aesthetics—how well-being and mental health are taking the spotlight · Practical guidance for fitness and wellness professionals on adapting to these cultural shifts Highlights & Key Topics: · Are weight-loss drugs and body positivity at odds, or can they co-exist?· The nuanced roles of influencers versus activists in shaping public opinion · How to foster self-love, authentic self-care, and inclusive health practices—regardless of body size · Actionable strategies for supporting clients (or yourself!) in prioritizing health and wellness without shame Who Should Listen: · Fitness pros & wellness coaches ready to adapt in a changing industry · Anyone interested in body positivity, health at every size, and mental well-being · Listeners seeking science-backed, compassionate insights on fitness, weight, and personal growth Resources Mentioned: · Previous Better Than Fine episodes unpacking the science of BMI, weight bias, and health outcomes · Forbes and New York Times features on body positivity and weight loss drugs · Darlene’s book recommendations and scientific studies on long-term health and well-being If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Encore Presentation: Rick Richey – Beginner Resistance Training
Are you ready to finally start lifting, but don’t know where to begin? Confused by all the information about strength and resistance training? This episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast is your perfect starting point! Join host Darlene Marshall and special guest Dr. Rick Richey —personal trainer, gym owner, author, and host of the “NASM-CPT Podcast”—as they break down everything you need to know about beginning your resistance training journey. Whether your goals are better health, more confidence, or just picking up heavy things without feeling lost, Rick brings decades of experience and practical advice to help you succeed. What you’ll learn in this episode: · The difference between resistance training and strength training—and why it matters · How to get started if you’re an absolute beginner (no gym experience needed) · Advice for choosing the right exercises and routines for YOU · How to overcome the intimidation and anxiety many beginners feel in the gym · Tips for finding affordable, trustworthy trainers (and spotting “charlatans”) · The benefits of movement beyond just muscle: mood, mental health, confidence, and even life purpose! · How to use bodyweight, bands, machines, and more—no fancy equipment required · Why consistency, enjoyment, and play are more important than perfection Whether you’re considering your first gym membership or just want easy, actionable steps to build strength at home, this episode will boost your confidence and get you moving, for life. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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How Body Shaming Harms Mental Health in Fitness
Are toxic trainers and body shaming pushing people away from fitness? In this powerful episode of the "Better Than Fine" podcast, wellness expert and coach Darlene Marshall dives deep into the real, ongoing problem of bullying within fitness culture—and why it's time to say "enough." 🎙️ What You'll Learn in This Episode: The damaging impact of bullying and body shaming in gyms and on social media Real stories of clients being blamed, shamed, and lied to by fitness professionals Why outdated, abusive approaches to coaching are not just wrong—they’re ineffective The psychological science behind shame, motivation, and genuine behavior change How the fitness industry can create truly inclusive, supportive spaces for ALL bodies Actionable steps for clients and professionals to end toxic fitness culture You’ve ever felt judged or shamed on your fitness journey You want to understand what HEALTHY coaching looks like You’re a fitness pro ready to champion positive change From her own journey (yes, The Biggest Loser gets called out!) to the crucial mistakes many trainers repeat, Darlene Marshall combines honest storytelling and research-backed advice so you can protect your well-being and thrive in fitness—no matter your shape or size.Time to ditch the bullies and reclaim fitness for everyone. Whether you’re a coach, personal trainer, or someone just trying to feel better in your body, this episode is for you. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Encore Presentation: The Gut Microbiome and Mental Health
Welcome to the “Better Than Fine” podcast, hosted by Darlene Marshall – well-being expert, wellness coach, and your trusted source for evidence-based health insights! In this highly requested episode, we're revisiting the January 2025 deep-dive into the gut microbiome and its powerful connection to mental health.You’ve seen influencers claim that certain foods and supplements will “heal your mind,” but what does the research actually show? Darlene breaks down the gut-brain axis, debunks viral myths, and shares actionable advice grounded in science – not hype. 👇 In this episode, you’ll learn: · What the gut-brain axis (GBA) REALLY is · How your gut microbiome influences mood, cognition, and well-being · The role of neurotransmitters (serotonin, dopamine, GABA) produced in your gut · Why processed foods trigger inflammation and hurt mental health · The science behind prebiotics, probiotics, and what foods genuinely support your mental health · Why “one size fits all” nutrition advice is bogus (even twins have different microbiomes!) · Practical tips for feeding the “good army” in your gut and boosting well-being · How to tell fact from influencer fiction in the nutrition space · How chronic stress impacts digestion and creates feedback loops that affect mind and body · Why movement + nutrition are foundational to lasting mental wellness Whether you’re a wellness professional, mental health practitioner, or just curious about nutrition, this episode gives you clear, actionable insights—without gimmicks or hype. Want to ask Darlene your questions or join her new digital community? Learn how to connect with The Well-Being Revolution and get ongoing support! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Long-Term Success: Grit, Perseverance & Habit Change
Welcome to another episode of the Better Than Fine podcast with your host, Darlene Marshall! This week’s episode is your essential guide to getting things DONE, especially when motivation runs dry and willpower isn’t enough. 🌟In honor of the show’s 6th birthday, Darlene dives deep into the science and real-life application of GRIT — that special blend of passion and perseverance for long-term goals. Discover why grit outshines intelligence and talent when it comes to achieving lifelong dreams, as popularized by Dr. Angela Duckworth’s viral TED Talk (17+ million views!). Darlene, who learned directly from Dr. Duckworth, breaks down how grit, growth mindset, and resilience can transform your life. But this episode isn’t just about theory. You’ll get hands-on strategies like: · Shaping your environment to make good habits the easy choice (and bad habits harder) · Lowering friction for the behaviors you want — and raising it for the ones you don’t · Mental rehearsal and anticipatory savoring to boost motivation, resilience, and follow-through · Setting fewer, better goals rooted in your core values and identity for lasting success · The truth about willpower (hint: it fails us all!) and what actually works instead Plus, Darlene shares her own candid story about breaking tough habits, the psychology of habit change, and recent research you NEED to know if you want to level up in 2026. This episode is perfect for you if: · You want actionable techniques to crush your goals this year · You’re tired of relying on willpower alone · You’re curious about the latest evidence-based methods in personal growth, wellness, and behavior change · You value honest, relatable advice from a proven coach and educator✨ Grab your notebook, hit play, and learn how to outsmart your obstacles and become the person you aspire to be — starting TODAY. #Grit #GoalSetting #Willpower #HabitChange #PersonalDevelopment #BetterThanFinePodcast #SelfImprovement #Wellness #GrowthMindset #Resilience If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Encore Presentation: Optimize is a 4-letter Word
Is your quest to "optimize" everything making you miserable? In this eye-opening episode of the Better Than Fine podcast, host and well-being expert Darlene Marshall reveals why the drive for constant optimization can actually sabotage your happiness, health, and satisfaction in life. Join Darlene as she unpacks the science behind decision fatigue, perfectionism, and the hidden dangers of the self-improvement hustle culture. Drawing from Dr. Barry Schwartz’s groundbreaking research on the "Paradox of Choice," Darlene explains why more options and relentless striving rarely lead to a happier, more fulfilled life—and what to do instead! 🎯 In this episode, you’ll discover: · Why “optimize” has become a toxic buzzword in wellness and self-development · The surprising downside of endless choice and customization · How influencer advice and hustle culture fuel overwhelm and burnout · The key difference between optimization and genuine satisfaction · Practical strategies to design a “good enough” life that’s aligned with what matters most · How you can let go, enjoy the present, and actually feel satisfied day to day Whether you’re an overachiever, perfectionist, or just feeling overwhelmed by wellness advice, this episode is your permission slip to step off the optimization treadmill and reclaim your life. 🌱 Interested in real-life transformation? Join Darlene’s upcoming Root to Rise Weekend Well-Being Retreat (June 13–15, Round Top, NY). Connect, recharge, and re-align with what truly matters—learn more here: darlene.coach/retreat If you’re ready to ditch burnout and discover what satisfaction REALLY feels like, don’t miss this episode! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Wellness Coach Advice: Becoming a Helper in 2026
Welcome to this week’s transformative episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, hosted by wellness coach and well-being educator, Darlene Marshall! 🎙️Are you ready to not just “look for the helpers” but become the helpers? In these turbulent times, personal well-being is deeply intertwined with community care and support. Darlene shares her powerful reaction to our rapidly changing world, tackling everything from stress, anxiety, and social change to the science-backed benefits of volunteering and helping others. 🔑 What You'll Discover in This Episode: · Why “becoming the helpers” is vital in 2026 and beyond · The impact of social and economic stressors on mental health · How helping others directly boosts your own well-being, happiness, and resilience · Simple, actionable ways to get involved in your local community (food pantries, visiting shut-ins, volunteering at charities, and more) · Powerful research insights from positive psychology about the helper’s high · Inspiration from Mr. Rogers – and why it’s time to evolve his iconic advice, Darlene’s flu-season “smoky voice” brings even more raw honesty and warmth to this solo episode. If you want to feel inspired, learn practical wellness tips, and discover how service can make you feel better than fine, this is the episode for you! ✊ Get Involved: From food pantries to charitable organizations like Angel’s Angels of America and the Travis Manion Foundation, Darlene shares how you can start helping TODAY… no matter your time, skills, or financial situation. 👫 Join the Conversation: How will you show up as a helper in your neighborhood? Drop your thoughts, ideas, and feedback in the comments below. Subscribe for more weekly episodes to upgrade your well-being, optimism, and social impact! ✨ Don’t forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, & SHARE if you enjoyed this episode. Your support helps more people find their way to feeling better than fine! #Wellness #BetterThanFine #MentalHealth #CommunityCare #Helpers #MrRogers #PositivePsychology #Volunteering #Resilience #Podcast #2026 #SocialImpact #SelfCare If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Encore Presentation: Is Protein Powder Ultra-processed?
Are you confused about whether protein powder is actually healthy—or is it just another ultra processed food in disguise? In this episode of the Better Than Fine podcast, wellness coach and wellbeing expert Darlene Marshall dives deep into one of the hottest nutrition debates of 2025: protein powder and ultra processed foods. ✨ What You'll Learn in This Episode: · The REAL definition of “ultra processed food” and how it’s different from simply “processed” · Why most protein powders are considered ultra processed—and what that means for your health · How influencer marketing cycles drive diet trends and supplement fads · The sneaky ways supplement companies leverage guilt, fear, and “clean eating” messages to sell products · Why Americans are falling short on fiber and the potential health risks you need to know · Actionable tips to improve your nutrition without falling for the latest trends 💡 Darlene also gets honest about her own protein supplement use, discusses the critical difference between facts and values, and reveals why YOU get to decide what matters most in your health and wellness journey. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. The most trusted name in fitness is now expanding into the wellness world. Become an NASM Certified Wellness Coach and you’ll be able to guide and motivate clients to make lasting changes through mental and emotional well-being, recovery, and more. https://bit.ly/3rdqEfl
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Ultra Processed Foods: New Evidence on Health Risks
Welcome to the “Better Than Fine Podcast!”In this highly informative episode, host Darlene Marshall dives deep into the real story behind **ultra processed foods**, breaking down the latest research from top scientific journals—including a brand-new series from The Lancet. **What You'll Learn:** - The *four categories* of the NOVA food scale and why not all “processed” foods are created equal - How ultra processed foods drive **obesity**, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and even depression - The shocking influence of *food industry lobbying and marketing*—and why your cravings might not be about “willpower” at all - Simple, actionable ways to cut ultra processed foods from your diet, support local farmers, and reclaim control over your health—even when access is limited **Why Listen/Watch?** If you care about your **well-being**, **mental health**, or want science-based answers to what’s REALLY making our society sick, this episode is for you. [John Jewett](/speakers/A) doesn’t just react to headlines—he reviews breakthrough studies, responds to common criticisms, and offers empowering solutions. 👇 **Like, Comment, and Subscribe!** Got questions or want to share your own food transformation story? Drop a comment below or connect with Darlene on Instagram (@DarleneCoach), LinkedIn, or via email at [email protected]. **Don’t forget to share and tag #BetterThanFinePodcast to join our community of listeners making positive change!****WATCH NOW to discover how ultra processed foods impact your health—and what you can do today to take back control.** If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Ultra-processed Foods & the Nova Scale
Curious about what’s really lurking in the foods you eat every day? This eye-opening episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall pulls back the curtain on “ultra processed foods” and reveals hidden truths that the food industry doesn’t want you to know. She delivers a powerful encore presentation about the NOVA Food Scale—a simple but revolutionary way to understand what’s in your pantry, your snacks, and your health. Discover why 60% of the average American diet comes from ultra processed foods, and how these ingredients aren’t just about added sugar—they’re packed with unpronounceable additives like emulsifiers, anti-caking agents, artificial sweeteners, and nanoparticles. Learn how these hidden chemicals could be impacting your gut health, metabolism, and even your risk for inflammatory diseases. Darlene doesn’t just research the science—she shares her candid, personal journey of confronting these foods in her own life, the surprising results she saw, and how she guides her clients through making healthier choices. Whether you consider yourself a clean eater or you’re just beginning to question what “healthy” even means on a food label, this episode will challenge how you think about “junk food,” nutrition, and wellness trends. Don’t miss this in-depth episode to rethink your grocery cart, decode food labels, and protect your long-term health.Hit play, share your thoughts, and get ready for next week’s deep dive into the future of nutrition! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Wise Effort & Psychological Flexibility: How to Thrive in Times of Burnout with Dr. Diana Hill
Ready to break free from burnout and discover what it truly means to thrive? In this transformative episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall sits down with world-renowned clinical psychologist and expert in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Dr. Diana Hill, to dive deep into her new book, Wise Effort, and the fascinating intersection of ancient Buddhist wisdom and modern psychology. You’ll hear how the concept of “wise effort” offers a radical shift away from the endless grind and emotional exhaustion that so many of us feel today. Instead of pushing harder and burning out, Dr. Hill reveals how we can channel energy into actions that are aligned with our values—and create regenerative, life-giving cycles instead of relentless depletion.Together, Darlene and Diana unpack powerful practices—drawn from ACT, mindfulness, and self-compassion research—that help you break free from toxic stories, become more psychologically flexible, and start relating to yourself (and your body) with curiosity instead of criticism. Discover how seemingly simple shifts in mindset and behavior can lead to profound resilience, especially during challenging times. Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed, searching for practical strategies to boost energy, or curious about what it means to “show up” for yourself, this episode delivers actionable insights and heartfelt vulnerability. Lean in for a conversation packed with relatable stories, expert tips, and tools you can use today to reclaim your vitality. Tune in, subscribe, and start your journey toward wise effort—and a life better than fine! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Unsticking Motivation
Struggling to reignite your motivation and get back on track with your health, fitness, or wellness goals? In this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall uncovers the real reason why your motivation gets “stuck”—and how to finally get moving again. Forget the old advice to “just want it more”; Darlene breaks down the complex interplay between your physical needs, psychological drives, social pressures, and those sneaky self-limiting beliefs that hold you back without you even realizing it. Learn why motivation isn’t a simple on-off switch and discover the science-backed process she uses with her clients to identify conflicting motivations, align actions with true values, and create a game plan that actually sticks. Whether you’re a wellness pro, a fitness enthusiast, or someone who just feels frustrated and stuck, this episode will help you see what’s really stopping you—and give you the tools to overcome it. If you want to understand why you can KNOW what to do but still feel stuck, this encore presentation reveals how exhaustion, stress, unmet needs, and external influences sabotage your progress—and exactly what you can do to unstick your motivation for good. Tune in to “Better Than Fine” and find permission, clarity, and practical steps to thrive, not just survive. Perfect for anyone searching for “motivation tips,” “get unstuck,” or “how to get motivated again.” Ready to break the cycle? Hit play and start your journey back to your best self! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Finding Light in the Darkness
Looking for comfort and inspiration during the darkest days of the year? In this powerful episode of “Better Than Fine,” host, Darlen Marshall, wellbeing expert and host, takes a heartfelt dive into why so many people find the holidays difficult—especially this year. If seasonal sadness, loneliness, or stress are on your mind, this episode offers a beacon of hope rooted in both science and tradition. Discover the concept of learned helplessness and how you can reclaim a sense of control when everything feels out of your hands. Darlene weaves together wisdom from positive psychology, global holiday traditions—like Yule, Hanukkah, Diwali, and more—and personal stories, shedding light on the surprising evolutionary reasons we need each other more than ever around the winter solstice. Feeling burned out by obligations or overwhelmed by grief and isolation? Learn how to tap into authentic connection and the true power of hope, joy, and community—without getting lost in commercialization and excess. This encore presentation offers practical strategies, compassion, and inspiration for making your holidays brighter, no matter where you are or what you celebrate. Whether you love the holiday season or struggle through it, this episode promises to help you feel seen, supported, and empowered to cultivate joy—even when life feels anything but merry and bright. Tune in to create your own Wellbeing Revolution and make this winter a time of meaningful transformation.I f you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Why ‘Redneck Resilience’ Works: Roots, Rituals & Being Real
Ever wondered how some people manage to stay afloat—or even thrive—when life throws its hardest punches? In this deeply personal and practical episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall pulls back the curtain on her own year of loss, upheaval, and unexpected insight. You’ll discover the surprising ways her family’s small-town traditions—and positive psychology research—offer a roadmap to real resilience. Drawing from her experience as a wellness coach, Darlene shares stories of family, grief, and the simple practices that quietly fortify us: from community service and creative outlets to the power of fun, spiritual practice, and “throwing the kitchen sink” at life’s challenges. Learn the science behind why fun and connection aren’t just nice-to-haves, but essential for undoing the damage of stress, and how even in the darkest times, thriving is about adaptation—not perfection. Curious what really gets you through a storm? Want actionable, evidence-based tools you can actually put to use today? Tune in for tangible practices, myth-busting truths, and Darlene’s honest advice on building your “resilience toolkit.” Whether you’re struggling right now or just want to future-proof your well-being, this episode will leave you with hope—and a checklist—for thriving through adversity. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Taking Ownership of Your Health: Cutting Through Wellness Noise & Misinformation
Ready to cut through the noise and confusion of today’s health and wellness world? This candid episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast dives deep into the myths, misinformation, and magic bullets flooding your social media feeds—and how you can actually take charge of your health in ways that really work. Join host Darlene Marshall (it’s her birthday!) and returning favorite guest, Rich Fahmy, Senior Content Development Manager at NASM, as they share personal stories, expert insights, and a dose of good humor about owning your health while dodging wellness grifters and fads. Discover why being a lifelong fitness professional doesn’t mean you’re immune to aches, pains, and real-life health challenges, and how even evidence-based pros wrestle with changing science and internet hype.Curious about the rise of dangerously persuasive supplement marketing, the truth about “biohacking,” or why even doctors—and their advice—aren’t always perfect? Wondering where intuition, scientific consensus, and real self-care intersect? This conversation unpacks it all, offering practical tips to develop critical consumerism, trust real expertise, and sidestep costly mistakes. Whether you’re a wellness pro, fitness junkie, or just trying to make sense of it all, you’ll leave empowered, entertained, and prepared to navigate your health journey with confidence—no sketchy crypto-bought supplements required. Hit play for honest, evidence-based, and surprisingly uplifting insights on living better than fine. Don’t forget to subscribe and leave that five-star review—after all, it’s Darlene’s birthday! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Savoring the Holidays
Are you tired of holiday hustle leaving you feeling frazzled and disconnected? You’re not alone—so many of us race from event to event, only to realize we didn’t truly enjoy any of it. In this must-listen encore presentation of “Better Than Fine,” host, wellness coach and positive psychology practitioner, Darlene Marshall reveals the simplest, most powerful strategy for finding joy, connection, and well-being during the busiest time of year: savoring. In this episode, you’ll learn what savoring actually means in “real-life” terms, why it’s backed by science, and the five evidence-based ways to use it to transform your holidays (and life!). Whether you’re dreading awkward family dynamics, overwhelmed by diet “tips,” or struggling to feel present in a sea of notifications, Darlene shares actionable wisdom—from sensory sharpening, the magic of sharing good news, and deepening relationships through shared reminiscence, to overcoming toxic willpower games and savoring those indulgent holiday treats with zero guilt. Curious how savoring can counteract stress, boost happiness, and even improve your relationships? Want simple, free, and effective practices to finally make your holidays feel “better than fine”? Tune in for a relatable mix of personal stories, practical guidance, and authentic encouragement. Whether you’re a holiday-lover or a self-proclaimed Eeyore, this episode is packed with real tips to help you slow down, soak up every joyful moment, and create memories worth savoring.Listen now—your holiday season will never be the same! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Movement & Purpose
Ready to unlock the secret link between moving your body and finding deeper purpose in life? In this thought-provoking episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall into one of her favorite studies ever—a groundbreaking piece of research revealing how exercise isn’t just good for your health, it might actually help you discover and strengthen your sense of purpose. Tune in as Darlene explores why traditional reasons for exercise like appearance, health, and performance aren’t the full story. What if your daily movement routine could spark a powerful feedback loop—fueling your motivation, enriching your emotional wellbeing, and adding years to your life? She breaks down the science behind the bidirectional relationship between movement and purpose, using real data from over 18,000 participants. Whether you’re a fitness professional, wellness coach, or just someone looking to feel more fulfilled, this episode delivers actionable insights, relatable stories, and practical takeaways you can use today. Discover how even small increases in physical activity can lead to measurable boosts in life satisfaction—and vice versa. Plus, Darlene shares expert tips for making movement meaningful, motivational hacks for overcoming exercise resistance, and real-life coaching success stories. If you’ve ever wondered how to find your “why” or create sustainable healthy habits, don’t miss this revealing encore presentation. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Why Sleep is More Valuable Than Any Drug – A Deep Dive with the FBI’s Sleep Expert
Trouble falling asleep? You’re not alone—and you might be missing a critical piece of the puzzle. In this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall sits down with featured guest, renowned FBI sleep expert, Dr. Leah Kaylor, to go beyond the usual talk of blue light and supplements. Prepare for a deep dive into the psychological factors that sabotage your sleep and discover powerful strategies you probably haven’t heard before. Wonder why even the most disciplined first responders and military pros struggle with rest? Dr. Kaylor reveals how trauma, anxiety, and stress shape sleep for everyone—and shares cutting-edge mental techniques, like EMDR and brain spotting, that could fundamentally change how you approach your nights. Whether you’re battling a racing mind or just curious why “falling face first into bed” isn’t working, this episode blends science, relatable stories, and actionable tips. Is scrolling your phone the enemy? Are “quick fixes” making things worse? And what if sleep was so valuable, you couldn’t afford to buy it as a pill? Explore the real-life consequences of sleep deprivation—from cognitive performance to emotional well-being—and learn why a news or device detox might be the thing your brain has been begging for.Join us to rethink your wind down routine, discover your own sleep motivators, and finally get the rest you deserve—straight from the source trusted by the FBI. Listen now for a transformative look at sleep you won’t find anywhere else! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Exercise & Better Health
Struggling with low moods, especially as the days get darker? Wondering if moving your body could actually improve your mental health more than medication? In this encore episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall —personal trainer, wellness coach, and positive psychology practitioner—dives headfirst into the science connecting physical activity to depression, anxiety, and psychological distress. You’ll hear the surprising truth behind recent headlines claiming, “exercise is 1.5x more effective than meds” and learn what a meta-analysis really says about movement and mental health. Is daily exercise really necessary, or is there a “sweet spot” for mental health benefits? Are all movement modalities equally effective—or do resistance training and yoga offer unique boosts for your mood and mind? Darlene Marshall unpacks massive new research covering over 128,000 adults, distilling complex science into practical, relatable takeaways you can use—whether you’re a fitness professional, therapist, or just trying to feel better through winter. Plus: discover why therapists may hesitate to recommend exercise, what gaps exist between mental health and fitness fields, and how YOU can be part of making wellbeing more holistic, accessible, and stigma-free. If you want actionable strategies, honest personal insight, and a myth-busting approach to exercise and emotional resilience. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Katy Bowman: I Know I Should Exercise But...
Struggling to find joy in movement or exercise? You’re not alone—and this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast is about to change how you see fitness, motivation, and wellness! Host Darlene Marshall sits down with featured guest, Nutritious Movement founder Katy Bowman, whose innovative, science-backed approach is transforming what “movement” really means. Discover why decades of shame, guilt, and “discipline” haven’t gotten us moving, and how we can finally break free from rigid fitness rules. In this episode, you’ll learn the empowering secrets behind Bowman’s latest book, “I Know I Should Exercise, But: 44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them.” Unpack why “move more” is actually BAD advice, how to redefine what “counts” as exercise, and why your core values matter more than a perfect workout plan. Hear about the revolutionary concept of fitness psychology, and how reframing our approach can help anyone—whether you love movement or absolutely hate it—find sustainable wellness. Plus, discover the unexpected link between grief, movement, and healing, with real-life stories and practical tips to help you process life’s toughest moments through motion. Katy Bowman and Darlene Marshall bust myths, share vulnerable insights, and offer simple strategies to help you get moving—no matter your background or limitations. Ready to ditch shame and discover movement that fits YOUR life? Hit play, subscribe, and join a new movement revolution! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Jodi Wellman - Memento Mori & 4,000 Mondays
Are you living your Mondays like you mean it—or are you sleepwalking through life’s most precious moments? In this deeply engaging episode of “Better Than Fine,” Darlene Marshall sits down with Jodi Wellman, founder of 4000 Mondays and one of the internet’s favorite “weirdos for well-being.” Together, they tackle the surprisingly revitalizing topic of death, memento mori, and the question we all avoid: How many Mondays do you have left? From the roots of the ancient Roman “memento mori” motif to the practical power of counting your Mondays, Jody explains why contemplating your mortality isn’t morbid—it’s a secret superpower for living a wider and deeper life. With insights from existential psychology, Jody and Andre invite listeners to diagnose their “dead zones,” share hilarious failures, and explore how simple pleasures (like killer brownies or watching owls online) can spark meaningful joy, even when life feels constrained. This special encore presentation is perfect for anyone seeking to escape the rut of routines and reignite their sense of aliveness, no matter their resources. You’ll come away with actionable advice for overcoming regret, prioritizing what matters most, and infusing every day with intentionality. Searching for ways to “hack” life, avoid regret, and thrive—even in tough times? Tune in and discover why reflecting on death could be your best tool for truly coming alive. Don’t just count your Mondays—make them count. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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10 Lessons from My Self-Care Journey: From Diagnosis to Wellness Coach
Ready to break free from imposter syndrome and revolutionize your self-care journey? In this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall shares her deeply personal story—including a daunting diagnosis of Ehlers Danlos syndrome—and the hard-earned lessons that shaped her career as a wellness coach and educator. Dive into Darlene’s “10 Things I Wish I Knew” guide, filled with actionable advice for anyone navigating the fitness world with chronic illness, or simply struggling with self-doubt. From why sustainable change always outperforms quick fixes, to the ways perfectionism can sabotage your progress, she unpacks mental, physical, and practical strategies to help you thrive. You’ll discover the power of going slow, investing in quality expertise, focusing on behaviors over aesthetics, embracing vulnerability, and learning how your body truly works. If you’ve ever wondered how top athletes sidestep imposter syndrome, what to do when life throws curveballs, or how to get strong—in body and mind—this episode delivers research-backed insight and relatable stories. Perfect for coaches, trainers, and anyone seeking real results, this episode sparks curiosity around modern wellness culture, self-acceptance, and resilience. Hit play, join the conversation, and fuel your journey with wisdom designed for lifelong wellbeing. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Combatting Loneliness
Feeling lonely or disconnected lately? You’re not alone—and this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, “Combating Loneliness,” is here to help. Host Darlene Marshall dives deep into the epidemic of loneliness sweeping across all age groups, armed with powerful statistics, personal stories, and science-backed strategies to help you reconnect. Discover why loneliness impacts our health as seriously as smoking 15 cigarettes a day, how the aftermath of the pandemic continues to shape our social lives, and why meaningful relationships are key to a happier, more fulfilled life. Darlene shares her own journey from the bustling crowds of New York City to a rural town with more cows than people, revealing how loneliness can creep in—even when surrounded by others. Learn actionable tips, from scheduling small activities to reaching out to old friends and sharing good news, that can make a real difference in your well-being. Plus, you’ll find creative ways to build new social circles and strengthen existing ones, even if starting from scratch feels daunting. Whether you’re looking to overcome social anxiety, searching for practical advice on reconnecting, or interested in the science behind meaningful connection, this heartfelt encore presentation has something for you. Don’t let loneliness linger. Tune in, take notes, and reignite your social life with proven steps for deeper connection and lasting happiness. If combating loneliness is important to you or someone you love, this episode could change everything. Listen now and start building your “better than fine” life! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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How Tech, Stress & Social Shifts Are Changing Fitness & Wellness
Are fitness and wellness clients really changing—or is it just the world around us? Dive deep with host Darlene Marshall and featured guest, Brad Dieter, COO and co-founder of Macros Inc, as they unravel how the fitness, health, and wellness landscape has shifted over the last decade—especially in the wake of tech, AI, and post-pandemic upheavals. In this thought-provoking episode of "Better Than Fine," you’ll get an insider’s perspective on the real forces behind evolving health behaviors, the explosion (and pitfalls) of wearable tech and AI tools, and the hidden stressors influencing your clients—even if everyone thinks they have all the answers. Darlene and Brad challenge the myth that having more data or information holds the key to change, instead exploring why motivation, human connection, and authentic values matter more than ever. Are you a coach, trainer, or anyone navigating your own—or your clients’—wellbeing journey? You’ll want to hear the candid discussion on modern distractions, the pitfalls of comparison culture, and why “optimization” might be making us unhappier. Packed with relatable stories, hard-won wisdom, and real-world coaching insights, this episode will leave you questioning what’s really driving transformation in your life—and how to cut through the noise to rediscover what truly matters. Tune in, subscribe, and be part of the conversation on the future of fitness, authenticity, and living better than fine. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Combatting Imposter Syndrome
Are you haunted by that sneaky voice in your head saying, “You don’t belong here?” This special encore episode of “Better Than Fine” dives deep into the world of imposter syndrome, offering both real talk and science-backed strategies to help you break free from self-doubt and finally claim your accomplishments. Host Darlene Marshall, certified personal trainer and wellness coach, gets vulnerable as she recounts her first day in the prestigious Masters of Applied Positive Psychology program at the University of Pennsylvania—and the crushing wave of imposter feelings that hit her. Drawing on personal experience and leading psychological research, Darlene explains why even top achievers struggle with imposter syndrome and how our own attitudes toward success (and even the culture we’re in) can feed or starve that inner critic. You’ll learn why acknowledging your wins isn’t bragging, how comparing yourself to others creates a confidence trap, and what you can do—starting today—to finally break the cycle. Darlene also shares powerful tips, from the latest in positive psychology to practical steps like identifying your unique strengths and embracing the journey instead of perfection. Perfect for fitness professionals, coaches, or anyone battling self-doubt on their career or wellness path, this episode brings relatable stories, fresh insights, and actionable tools you can use right now. Subscribe, share, and leave a review—then listen in to learn how to own your worth and kick imposter syndrome to the curb, once and for all! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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The Transformative Power of Storytelling: Building Connection & Well-Being with Capella Fahoome
Discover the power of storytelling to transform your life and well-being in this captivating episode of “Better Than Fine.” Host Darlene Marshall is joined by featured guest, the multi-talented Capella Fahoome—storyteller, film producer, and positive psychology expert—for an honest, inspiring, and laughter-filled conversation that might just change the way you see yourself. Curious how our personal narratives shape our relationships and mental health? Darlene and Capella dive deep, exploring how letting stories into our lives ignites authentic connection, builds trust, and even sparks lasting change. Capella shares the core exercise from her exclusive workshop, guiding Darlene (and listeners!) through a fresh way of seeing their life in three cinematic acts—complete with main characters, wardrobe, and soundtrack. Whether you’re seeking scientific validation or soulful community, this episode is packed with practical takeaways: why vulnerability isn’t weakness, how to break free from limiting beliefs, and why listening is the secret weapon for genuine connection. Plus, hear unforgettable personal tales—from dirt roads to Ivy Towers—and discover why sometimes rejection is simply redirection. If you’re yearning for more meaning, motivation, or just crave some real-talk laughter about being “too much,” this episode is your invitation. Tune in, uncover your story, and learn how your lived experience is the ultimate asset—both at work and at home.Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review—because powerful stories are meant to be told. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Morit Summers - Weight Neutral Fitness
Are you ready to challenge everything you’ve been told about fitness, weight, and who really belongs in the gym? Tune in to this powerful encore episode of “Better Than Fine” with host Darlene Marshall and featuring trailblazing guest Morit Summers—a New York City gym owner, personal trainer, and celebrated “fat fitness influencer” who’s turning the wellness world upside-down.They dissect the real stories behind weight stigma in fitness spaces, the myths of “looking like a trainer,” and what it truly means to pursue wellness beyond the number on a scale. Discover how Morit’s journey from a self-conscious teen to a weight-neutral fitness leader can open new doors for anyone tired of traditional gym culture. Whether you’re a fitness pro, just getting started, or someone who never felt like you “fit in” at a gym, this episode dives deep into the Healthy at Every Size movement, weight-neutral personal training approaches, and the hidden power of moving your body for joy—not punishment. Hear practical tips for finding your place in any fitness environment and learn why Morit’s Brooklyn gym ditched the scales and mirrors.This isn’t just another conversation about weight loss—this is an invitation to redefine health, embrace your strength, and break free from industry stereotypes. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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GLP-1 Medications, Public Figures & the Food Noise No One Talks About
When Serena Williams—the most dominant tennis player and cultural trailblazer—reveals her use of a weight loss drug and becomes the face of a sleek new ad campaign, the internet doesn’t just react…it explodes. But what’s really fueling the debate around celebrities, body image, and the next wave of GLP-1 weight loss meds like Zepbound? On this episode of “Better Than Fine,” host Darlene Marshall delivers her hot take on Serena’s headline-grabbing weight loss journey, unpacking the science, the social firestorm, and the deeply personal questions these choices raise for public figures and their followers. Why do we care when someone like Serena goes public—but barely shrug when Charles Barkley does the same? Are influencers betraying the body positivity movement, or just owning their choices? And what’s really at stake for your mental and physical health if you’re considering these trending prescriptions? From the celebrity endorsement backlash to the shady side of hidden weight loss, and from cultural shifts in body ideals to the overlooked risks—like muscle loss—Darlene breaks it all down with expert insight. Whether you’re a wellness pro, a GLP-1 skeptic, or just curious about the real impact of these "miracle drugs," this conversation will change how you think about health, honesty, and the bodies we celebrate. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Jordyn Feingold - Choosing Growth
On this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall reconnects with Jordyn Feingold, a well-being expert, medical doctor, and co-author of "Choose Growth," to explore the transformative power of resilience in the aftermath of trauma. Drawing from personal experience and professional expertise, Darlene and Jordyn dive deep into the nuances of trauma, the misconceptions perpetuated by the wellness industry, and the crucial differences between post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and post-traumatic growth (PTG). Jordyn breaks down the science and psychology behind PTG, explaining how individuals can find renewed purpose, deeper self-worth, and even creativity after enduring adversity. The conversation also tackles the spectrum of trauma—big T and little t—and emphasizes that healing is highly individual and not a contest of suffering.Listeners will learn practical tools to move from intrusive rumination to deliberate, healing reflection, the importance of social support, and why mind-body integration is key to recovery. The episode also addresses how to find ethical, qualified help, cautioning against untrained practitioners who misuse trauma buzzwords, while championing holistic and strengths-based approaches. Whether you are navigating your own healing journey, supporting others, or simply fascinated by human resilience, this episode offers both wisdom and actionable guidance. Tune in for an honest, empowering, and ethical exploration of what it really means to choose growth after trauma. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Resilient Living: How to Stay Solution-Focused When Times Get Tough
On this thought-provoking episode of “Better Than Fine,” host Darlene Marshall dives deep into the essential mindset skills needed to navigate life’s inevitable challenges. Reflecting on the show’s 250th original episode, Darlene celebrates the growth of the podcast while continuing the timely exploration of resilience—especially in an ever-changing world. Darlene unpacks the three foundational pillars of resilience: connection, purpose, and, most importantly for today, mindset. She explains why building resilience is a proactive process and shares actionable advice for strengthening your solution orientation before you’re caught in life’s storms. Listeners will be guided through a self-reflective gut check to assess their default responses to setbacks and identify their unique “interpretation bias”—the lens through which they view challenges. Darlene introduces the concept of “realistic optimism” and practical tools like the “add yet” technique to help listeners shift from fixed to growth mindsets. She also explores the power of self-concordant, process-focused goals—goals that deeply align with personal values and identity, which can fuel motivation even through adversity. Drawing from her personal experiences training for a marathon while managing chronic illness, Darlene illustrates how mindset and meaningful goals bolster resilience. With warmth and real-life examples, this episode offers tangible strategies to help you do the best you can with what you’ve got right now. Whether you’re looking to better handle stress, bounce back from setbacks, or simply approach life with greater optimism, this episode is packed with wisdom to help you thrive. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Stefan Underwood - Redefining Readiness
On this episode of "Better Than Fine," host Darlene Marshall welcomes featured guest Stefan Underwood, Vice President of Methodology at EXOS, for a deep dive into what it really means to be “ready” for the moments that matter—whether you’re an athlete, executive, parent, or anyone facing life’s daily challenges. Drawing from his extensive background in human performance, including work with elite athletes and military professionals, Stefan shares a holistic framework for readiness that moves far beyond sleep and traditional recovery. You’ll hear why sleep and meditation, while important, are just part of a bigger equation. Stefan unpacks the four critical pillars he and the EXOS team use to help people show up at their best: understanding foundational characteristics, tapping into personal psychological drivers, building true capacity (from nutrition to mindset), and mastering functional state management. Whether you want to keep your cool at home with your kids or crush a big presentation at work, these strategies will help you recognize your current state and intentionally adjust for optimal performance. Darlene and Stefan also discuss the concept of resilience, the skill of sleep, micro-breaks for recovery, and why readiness isn’t just for high achievers—it’s for anyone who wants to be more present and adaptable. Packed with practical tips, personal stories, and a little inspiration from The Greatest Showman, this special encore episode is essential listening for anyone seeking sustainable, holistic well-being in a demanding world. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Self-Care Beyond Influencer Culture: Building Systems for Real Wellbeing
On this transformative episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host and wellness coach, Darlene Marshall, helps us rethink everything we know about self-care. Tired of the endless influencer-driven trends, fluffy hashtags, and the message that wellness is something you buy? Darlene takes us back to the roots, uncovering how self-care originated in social justice and chronic illness spaces, and how it became a commodity in recent years. Darlene shares her personal journey with Ehlers Danlos syndrome and explains why real self-care isn’t found in supplements or spa days, but in consistently meeting your foundational needs. Using a fresh, evidence-based approach, she introduces the powerful concept of applying systems thinking—typically used in business and design—to your own wellbeing. Discover how habits, routines, and feedback loops can work together to support your physical, emotional, and higher order needs without cognitive overload or decision fatigue. You’ll learn why self-care isn’t selfish and how it enables you to show up more powerfully for yourself and others. Darlene walks through Maslow’s hierarchy of needs with a twist: it’s not about climbing a pyramid but sending ripples of positive impact out into the world, starting with the essentials like sleep, nutrition, and boundaries.Packed with practical tips and compassionate insights, this episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to reclaim self-care from marketing trends and build lasting, meaningful systems for a better, more balanced life. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Dr. Jaime Tartar – Stress & Sleep
Feeling stressed and struggling to sleep? You’re not alone! In this special episode of “Better Than Fine,” host Darlene Marshall welcomes world-renowned stress and sleep expert Dr. Jaime Tartar for an insightful, down-to-earth conversation on how stress truly impacts our shut-eye—and what we can do about it. Drawing from both personal experience and scientific expertise, Darlene and Dr. Tartar break down what stress really is, demystifying how it lives in our nervous system, affects our bodies, and warps our perception of reality. Dr. Tartar shares fascinating findings about the evolutionary roots of stress, why modern life is out of sync with our biology, and even reveals that some indigenous cultures don’t have a word for insomnia! You’ll hear practical, research-backed strategies for reclaiming your rest—from the importance of calming pre-bed routines to the neurological detriment of blue light in your bedroom. The discussion doesn’t shy away from the real-world challenges, like needing a phone nearby for emergencies, and how perfection isn’t the goal—small changes make a big difference. Get actionable tools for managing rumination and anxiety at night, learn why your brain clings to negative thoughts (thanks, evolutionary ancestors), and discover why both Darlene and Dr. Tartar say transparency about our struggles is key for everyone—including coaches and wellness practitioners. If stress has taken a toll on your sleep or your clients’ well-being, this episode is packed with science, solutions, and empathy. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Turning Anxiety into Action: The Science of Bravery & Personal Growth
On this “Better Than Fine” podcast, host and wellness coach, Darlene Marshall, dives deep into the powerful topic of fear—specifically, that paralyzing kind of fear that keeps us from pursuing the things we truly desire. With her signature blend of science and pep-talk energy, Darlene unpacks what’s really going on in our brains when anxiety and self-doubt hit, revealing how our ancient neurophysiology is built to keep us “safe,” even when we most need to take a risk. Listen in as Darlene shares personal stories of face-plant moments, failed projects, and uncomfortable leaps, all in service of helping listeners see that fear isn’t a stop sign—it’s a yield sign. Learn how to pause, gather information, and distinguish between your nervous system's genuine warning signals and the discomfort that comes with growth. Plus, Darlene breaks down the neuroscience of habit formation, showing how bravery is not a trait but a muscle that gets stronger with practice. Packed with practical tips for investigating your fears, connecting with your deeper self, and using affirmations to push forward, this episode is your invitation to stop waiting for fear to vanish and start building the courage to act anyway. Whether you need a pick-me-up or motivation to take your next big leap, add this one to your pep talk playlist. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Ultra-Processed Foods & the Nova Food Scale
On this encore episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall dives deep into the world of ultra processed foods—a hot topic that’s back in the spotlight. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed or confused by what “ultra processed” really means or wondered why these foods are making headlines for their health effects, this is the episode for you. Darlene unpacks the myths and science behind processed foods, sharing personal reflections and real-life stories from listeners like Paula, who used the Nova food classification and the Yuka app to transform her eating habits. The conversation explores why not all processed foods are created equal, delving into the NOVA classification system developed by researchers in Brazil to define what counts as “ultra processed.” Learn about the substances lurking in our everyday foods—like emulsifiers, anti-caking agents, artificial sweeteners, and more—that set ultra processed foods apart, and discover how these compounds may impact gut health, metabolic function, and inflammation. Darlene also shares how this knowledge has shifted her own nutritional choices and practice and offers thoughtful guidance on navigating food decisions responsibly—without shame, blame, or guilt. Whether you’re a nutrition enthusiast, a wellness professional, or simply striving for better health, this compelling episode arms you with clear, actionable insights to help you make more informed food choices. Don’t miss this powerful and practical guide to understanding—and rethinking—what’s really on your plate. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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The Neuroscience of Breathing: Improve Sleep, Focus, & Performance with Nick Bolhuis
On this episode of “Better Than Fine,” host Darlene Marshall welcomes featured guest, Nick Bolhuis, president of Neuropeak Pro, to explore the groundbreaking world of breathing training and its real-world applications for everyday performance and well-being. With his background in clinical psychology and extensive experience with everyone from anxious kids to elite athletes in the NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL, Nick shares his unique insights into how simple breathwork can unlock focus, energy, sleep, stress management, and more. Darlene and Nick dive into the science behind breathing—explaining the important distinction between parasympathetic and sympathetic states, why most of us are “dysfunctional breathers,” and how quick, real-time feedback can motivate anyone to improve. Whether you want to be calmer, feel more energized, or sharpen your mental game, Nick breaks down how to fine-tune your inhale, exhale, and breath holds for your current state and personal goals. You’ll also hear actionable suggestions and easy-to-try patterns like resonance breathing, plus honest discussions about why breathwork can initially feel awkward, how to overcome skepticism, and the power of personalized plans over one-size-fits-all techniques. Darlene puts Neuropeak Pro’s platform to the test, sharing her personal experience and highlighting why breath training isn’t just for athletes or yogis—it's for anyone ready for small, sustainable wins on their wellness journey. Plus, Nick offers listeners a free breath evaluation to kickstart their own transformation. If you’re curious about the practical magic of better breathing, this inspiring, educational episode is not to be missed! If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Encore Presentation: Beyond Manifesting
On this special encore presentation of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall dives deep into one of her all-time favorite episodes: “Beyond Manifesting.” This episode unpacks the popular concept of manifesting—those vision board dreams fueled by the Law of Attraction—and examines it with both an open mind and a critical, science-based perspective. Darlene invites listeners to join her in the middle ground, where skepticism and hope coexist, and where manifesting is neither blindly worshiped nor outright dismissed. She traces the origins of manifesting back to the widely known book (and film) “The Secret,” breaking down how its spiritual foundations entered mainstream culture and wellness circles. But is manifesting enough to create real change? Darlene explains why simply “thinking your way to success” may be incomplete, highlighting the ways manifesting practices often misinterpret science, particularly concepts from quantum mechanics. She shares compelling research—like Gabrielle Oettingen’s studies on “mental contrasting”—showing how combining dreams with honest reflection and action steps delivers tangible results. Listeners will learn why it’s important to move beyond wishful thinking, identify self-sabotage, and implement evidence-based tools to create change—personally or professionally. Whether you’re a true believer, a diehard skeptic, or somewhere in-between, this episode will empower you to take ownership, ground your aspirations, and go beyond manifesting to make meaningful progress in your life. References: Free support to practice WOOP: https://woopmylife.org/Gabrielle Oettingen's book Rethinking Positive Thinking: https://a.co/d/eXYEzkx If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Three Keys to Resilience: Connection, Purpose, & Mindset for Thriving in Uncertain Times
On this episode “Better Than Fine,” host Darlene Marshall dives deep into what it takes to thrive when life gets tough, sharing her evidence-based "three keys to resilience." As so many of us navigate a world full of uncertainty, Darlene unpacks the leading research on resilience—including insights on connection, purpose, and mindset—and guides listeners on how to practically apply these powerful concepts to their own lives. Kicking things off, Darlene invites you to reflect on your own moments of struggle and introduces the foundational habits that buoy resilience: sleep, nutrition, and movement. From there, she explores why humans are truly pack animals, emphasizing the profound impact of connection—from co-regulation with others to literal sharing of resources and community. She encourages simple, actionable ways to deepen community ties and give/receive help when you need it most. Next, Darlene explores the role of purpose, prompting big questions: Why are we doing what we do? What really matters to us? She shares strategies for finding meaning day-to-day and reframing even life’s chaos in more hopeful, purpose-driven ways. Finally, she highlights the essential "mindset" skills that foster solution orientation—like realistic optimism, growth mindset, and process goals—especially when we can’t control the outcome. Whether you’re feeling uncertain or simply want more tools to build a better, more resilient life, this episode is a practical, compassionate guide. Tune in to refresh your perspective, find your purpose, and connect with both you and your community, even when times are tough. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Trying a Continuous Blood Glucose Monitor
In March of 2024 the FDA made continuous blood glucose monitors available without a prescription for the first time. Now that you can get one over the counter, should you try it? On this week's episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall shares her own experience in trying a continuous blood glucose monitor and how she's currently using them with her clients. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Scott Cheatham: Weight Loss Drugs & Lifestyle
It's been 4 years since Wegovy, the GLP-1 weight loss drug, was first approved by the FDA for weight management. We've learned a lot; but there's still a lot we don't know. On this week's episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall is joined by featured guest, researcher and practitioner, Dr. Scott Cheatham, to take a closer look at how lifestyle impacts the outcomes of modern weight loss drugs. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM. Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. ttps://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Danny Fung: Exercise & Wellbeing
There's been a lot of buzz in the last five years about exercise for mental health, but what does the science say we should do if we want greater emotional wellbeing? On this week's episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall is joined by featured guest, entrepreneur and positive psychology practitioner, Danny Fung, to take a closer look at the latest evidence on exercise and emotional wellbeing. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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Tamara Myles & Wes Adams: Driving Thriving Through Meaningful Work
With rapid changes in technology and economy, work is evolving. Many people expect more than just a paycheck. On this week's episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall is joined by featured guests, Tamara Myles, and Wes Adams, authors of "Meaningful Work: How to Ignite Passion and Performance in Every Employee," to take a closer look at how to unlock meaning in your work and your teams. If you like what you just consumed, leave us a 5-star review, and share this episode with a friend to help grow our NASM health and wellness community! Introducing NASM One, the membership for trainers and coaches. For just $35/mo., get unlimited access to over 300 courses, 50% off additional certifications and specializations, EDGE Trainer Pro all-in-one coaching app to grow your business, unlimited exam attempts and select waived fees. Stay on top of your game and ahead of the curve as a fitness professional with NASM One. Click here to learn more. https://bit.ly/4ddsgrm
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Work or school, family , social pressure and stress can strain our pursuit of a fulfilling life. Better Than Fine explores fitness, wellness, and well-being with a mix of Positive Psychology, wellness coaching, fitness, nutrition, and more to find what it means to thrive in the intensity of today's world.Host Darlene Marshall is an expert in wellness and well-being. A wellness coach with a decade of experience coaching and facilitating workshops, guiding clients and students to build fulfilling lives that work for their unique needs and live better than fine. On the NASM Podcasting Network.
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