Build Boldly with Pat Rodgers

In this special behind-the-scenes episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with Anthony Palmer, CEO and founder of Palm Tree Pod Co., the production partner behind the Build Boldly podcast.Pat and Anthony get into why RISE created Build Boldly, how the show has evolved, and how businesses can use podcasts and long-form content to build trust, share customer stories, and create a content engine that supports marketing, sales, SEO, and community building.Anthony explains why podcasting is not just about audio anymore. A single conversation can become a full ecosystem of content. He also shares why the most effective content is often the most authentic. It’s the kind that helps people feel seen, educated, connected, and understood.Pat and Anthony discuss:Why every business has a story worth tellingHow podcasts help companies build trust without hard-sellingWhy niche content can be more valuable than chasing massive audiencesHow one podcast episode can fuel social media, email, blogs, YouTube, and SEOWhy customer stories are such powerful marketing assetsHow small teams can start creating content without overcomplicating itWhy consistency, systems, and support matterWhat business owners should stop doing when creating contentWhether you’re a founder, operator, service provider, or small business owner wondering how to show up online with more purpose, this episode offers a practical look at how content can become a long-term growth engine.Learn more: palmtreepodco.com- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Franchising is not just a way to buy a business. For the right entrepreneur, it can be a strategy to scale smarter, reduce risk, build recurring revenue opportunities, and create long-term enterprise value.In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Anna Dey, franchise consultant, multi-brand operator, and founder of Franspot, to unpack how franchising can help entrepreneurs move from startup chaos to a more structured, supported path for growth.Pat and Anna explore how operators can think strategically about growth, whether that means going deeper within one brand and market, expanding across complementary brands, or leveraging an existing customer base to create multiple revenue streams.They also discuss the financial realities of franchising, including startup costs, net worth requirements, funding options, risk tolerance, and why working with a franchise consultant can help entrepreneurs filter through the noise and find the right fit.In this episode, you’ll learn:The difference between a franchisor and a franchiseeHow franchising can create structure, support, and scalabilityWhy some owners grow through depth while others grow through widthWhat to consider before investing in a franchise opportunityHow funding, net worth, and risk tolerance shape franchise decisionsHow a franchise consultant can help simplify the evaluation processIf you’re an entrepreneur, operator, or service business owner looking for a smarter way to scale, this conversation offers a practical framework for evaluating franchising as a path to growth, liquidity, and long-term business value.Learn more: thefranspot.com- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Most buyers are not ready to buy the first time they see your business.In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Nicole Eldridge, Meta ads strategist and founder of Nicole Eldridge Media, to break down how small businesses can use Facebook and Instagram ads to build visibility, nurture leads, and drive real sales.Nicole specializes in helping small and local businesses run effective Meta ad campaigns, from creative and targeting to retargeting, tracking, and SMS follow-up. In this conversation, she explains why Meta is still one of the most powerful advertising platforms for entrepreneurs, especially when businesses understand how to reach the 97% of buyers who are not ready to purchase yet.You’ll learn:Why Facebook and Instagram ads still matter for small businessesHow to create Meta ads that do not feel like traditional adsWhy simple video and problem-focused creative often outperform polished flyersHow retargeting helps businesses stay in front of warm audiencesWhy the Meta Pixel matters for tracking, optimization, and better ad performanceHow SMS follow-up can increase lead conversionWhat realistic timelines look like for Meta ad campaignsHow to choose the right Facebook and Instagram ads partnerNicole also shares why business owners need to understand the basics of Meta ads so they can make better decisions, avoid bad partners, and stop wasting ad spend, even if they plan to outsource.For Build Boldly listeners, Nicole is offering a free Meta ads mini-course with the code BOLDLY, find it here: nicoleeldridgemedia.comIf you are a founder, operator, contractor, service provider, or small business owner trying to get more from your marketing budget, this episode gives you a practical starting point for building Meta ads that support long-term growth.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

If your business looks smaller online than it is in real life, your brand may be costing you opportunities.In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with graphic and digital designer Riley Best to break down the difference between branding and marketing, and why both matter for small businesses, service companies, and growing brands trying to be found, trusted, and chosen.Pat and Riley unpack why marketing helps people discover your business, while branding shapes how they feel once they find you. From websites and social media to Google Business profiles, online reviews, email domains, and visual identity, they explain how every digital touchpoint either builds trust or creates doubt.You'll learn: The difference between branding and marketing  Why brand consistency directly impacts sales and conversions  How outdated websites and scattered visuals can hurt credibility  Why small businesses need clear messaging before scaling marketing  How to define who you help, what problem you solve, and why customers should care  Practical branding-on-a-budget steps for business owners  When to evolve your brand without alienating your core audience  How AI, search behavior, reviews, and digital research are changing the way customers evaluate businesses If you’re relying on referrals but want to grow beyond word-of-mouth, this episode gives you a practical starting point for building a stronger brand foundation that helps the right customers find you, trust you, and take action.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with entrepreneur and RISE Commercial District founder Jim Sapp to unpack the lessons behind scaling multiple high-growth businesses.Jim shares how he grew Indie Lube to 50 locations across the Midwest, why he learned early that no founder can scale alone, and how that experience helped shape the vision for RISE Commercial District. From hiring key leaders in operations, sales, finance, and accounting to building a bench of mentors across real estate, finance, and leadership, Jim offers practical insight for business owners navigating growth.Pat and Jim also talk about how to test new ideas without overextending, why small bets can protect your business from expensive mistakes, and how to know when it’s time to let go of control, failed experiments, or team members who are not aligned with the company’s future.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why founders need to build around key roles earlyHow mentors and advisors help de-risk big decisionsWhy passion and ownership matter when hiringHow to test ideas before investing too heavilyWhy leadership is about communication, not controlHow RISE Commercial District grew from real entrepreneurial lessonsIf you’re a founder, operator, or small business owner trying to scale beyond yourself, this conversation is packed with hard-earned advice on leadership, team building, mentorship, and smart growth.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Marketing should not live in a silo. In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Rachael Coverdale, CEO and founder of Coverdale Consulting, to break down how growing businesses can turn marketing into a true revenue engine. Rachael brings more than a decade of experience helping companies build marketing strategies rooted in sales alignment, customer understanding, analytics, and long-term business goals.Together, Pat and Rachael unpack why marketing and sales have to work together, how founders can move beyond the idea that they can “sell to everyone,” and why defining your Ideal Client Profile is one of the most important steps in building a focused, effective marketing strategy.They also cover how to evaluate modern marketing channels, use analytics to make better decisions, leverage AI for research and brainstorming, and avoid common mistakes when hiring agencies, consultants, or in-house marketers.In this episode, you’ll learn: Why marketing must be tied directly to revenue and sales goals  How to define your Ideal Client Profile and buyer personas  Why internal communication and culture matter in external marketing  How to use analytics, engagement metrics, and sales feedback together  Where AI fits into modern marketing strategy  Why consistency matters more than chasing every new channel  What red flags to watch for when choosing a marketing partner If you’re a founder, operator, or business owner trying to make smarter marketing investments, this episode gives you a practical playbook for building a cohesive, ROI-driven strategy that actually supports growth.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Dan Faber has spent years helping B2B and B2C companies build stronger sales systems, coach sales teams, and create accountability that actually drives revenue growth. In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Dan, sales trainer and consultant of Lushin, to break down one of the biggest challenges growing businesses face: turning owner-led sales into a scalable, repeatable sales process.Pat and Dan look at what it takes to move beyond “winging it” and build a true sales machine for trade businesses, service companies, contractors, agencies, and growing entrepreneurial teams.You’ll learn:How to define your Ideal Client Profile (ICP)The difference between inbound vs. outbound sales strategiesWhy referrals and networking partners are critical growth driversBuilding a frictionless sales processUsing CRMs effectively to track opportunities and accountabilityCoaching vs. training salespeopleHow founders can stop being the bottleneck in salesStructuring goals, milestones, and accountability systemsWhy sales is a learned skill, not just a personality traitWhether you’re still selling everything yourself or trying to scale a growing sales team, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you create predictable revenue and sustainable business growth. Listen now and learn how to build boldly through better sales leadership, systems, and process.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Today, we’re bringing back one of our most popular Build Boldly conversations from the archive. Before taking the leap with an Archadeck franchise, Ryan Pape felt his career had stagnated. In this episode, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Ryan to explore his journey from starting a franchise to navigating the challenges of 2020, including disrupted supply chains, shifting demand, and the need for consistent, strategic marketing in uncertain times.Ryan shares how strong vendor relationships, franchise support, financial discipline, and a dedicated showroom helped him build momentum in the outdoor living space. He also offers practical advice for aspiring entrepreneurs on capital planning, company culture, and building a business that can weather the unexpected.Whether you missed it the first time or are revisiting it with fresh perspective, this conversation is full of lessons on resilience, process, and what it takes to keep building boldly.__This episode was originally published in March of 2025.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

As Q1 wraps up, it’s the perfect time to pause and get honest about what your business really needs next. In this recap episode of Build Boldly, we revisit key moments from the first two episodes of our 2026 Business Roadmap series: Strategy & Operations and Finance & Accounting.From defining a clear North Star goal and identifying bottlenecks, to tightening up your bookkeeping, budgeting, and cash flow systems, this episode is a practical check-in for entrepreneurs who want to build with more clarity and less chaos.Whether you’re feeling on track or realizing a few things need to be reset, these clips will help you refocus on the foundations that support sustainable growth.In this episode: Why strategy and operations have to work together  How to identify friction points slowing your business down  What clean books and better cash flow visibility make possible  Why financial discipline creates better decisions and less stress  How to move into Q2 with more intention, clarity, and control If you’re a founder, operator, or business owner trying to lead well through growth, this recap will help you get grounded in the essentials before the next quarter begins.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Most businesses don’t fail because of a bad product. They fail because they run out of cash. In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with Logan Burchett, founder and CEO of Forecastr, to break down how founders can use real financial planning and analysis (FP&A) to take control of cash flow, make smarter decisions, and scale with confidence.Logan brings experience from institutional finance, venture-backed startups, and fractional CFO work, and now helps companies in the $1M–$50M range build financial systems that actually support growth. Pat and Logan talk about how founders can move beyond spreadsheets and guesswork into a more strategic, data-driven approach to building their business.In this episode, you’ll learn:• Why cash flow is what keeps businesses alive • How to use forecasting to decide when to hire, invest, or expand • What FP&A actually is (and why most founders don’t use it) • How scenario planning removes fear and replaces it with clarity • The impact of financial modeling on valuation, lending, and exits • Why recurring revenue (ARR/MRR) changes everything for service businesses • How to blend software, AI, and human expertise for better decision-makingLogan also explains how founders can start simple and build toward a full financial strategy that supports long-term growth. If you’re making big decisions about hiring, equipment, marketing, or expansion, this episode will give you the framework to move forward with confidence.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

At some point, every founder hits the same wall: You can’t do everything anymore… but letting go feels just as risky. In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with Adam Weber, two-time founder, former CEO of Emplify, and author of Lead Like a Human, to break down what it really takes to transition from operator to leader.Adam has built and exited companies, coached executives, and helped organizations improve employee engagement in ways that actually drive business results. In this conversation, he shares practical, hard-earned insights on how founders can scale themselves as leaders while scaling their business.They cover:How to stop “rescuing” your team and why it’s holding you backA simple framework for setting goals using themes and quarterly focusHow to onboard employees so they actually reduce your workloadHow to make better decisions under stress and maintain perspectiveWhy building a culture of accountability and gratitude changes everythingAdam also shares one of the simplest and most effective leadership habits: how recognizing great work consistently and intentionally can reshape your entire company culture.If you’re a founder who feels stretched thin, stuck in the weeds, or unsure how to level up as a leader, this episode is your playbook.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

AI isn’t just another software tool. It’s a transformation in how companies operate.In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with Santi Jaramillo, co-founder and co-CEO of Pragmatico, to discuss how mid-market and growing companies can move from experimenting with AI tools to becoming truly AI-native organizations.Santi, a three-time founder with over $100M in exits, explains why most businesses are stuck in the “dabbling phase” of AI and what it takes to achieve 90% company-wide adoption and real productivity gains.Together they talk about the leadership, technology, and cultural changes required to implement AI at scale. You’ll learn:• Why leadership commitment is the most important driver of AI adoption • How to create a clear AI vision and roadmap for your organization • Why companies should standardize tools like ChatGPT or Claude • The security risks of employees using personal AI accounts at work • Practical “low-hanging fruit” AI use cases (meetings, email, financial analysis) • Why early AI adopters will gain a massive competitive advantageSanti also shares how organizations can use gamification, live training, and cultural change management to turn AI into an everyday productivity engine rather than another unused tool.If you’re a business owner, executive, or team leader trying to figure out how AI actually fits into your company, this conversation will give you a practical roadmap to get started.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

What do you do when you lose $250,000 in inventory, miss Black Friday, and only have weeks of runway left? You build anyway. In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with Bradley Will, founder and CEO of Mumbies, a Milwaukee-based direct-to-consumer dog chew brand supporting rescues and shelters.Bradley shares the unfiltered story of transitioning from running a marketing agency to launching a physical product brand while navigating importing, fulfillment, warehousing, 3PL failures, and hand-packing orders in a 900 sq ft office.Then the crisis hit.Instead of folding, Bradley pivoted. Mumbies donated over 3,000 imperfect products (more than $50,000 retail value) to shelters and rescues, which turned a massive operational failure into a brand-defining moment rooted in mission.In this episode, you’ll learn:What it really takes to move from services to productHow to manage DTC growth without relying on Amazon or big-box retailLessons from the Generator accelerator programWhy resilience builds enduring companies, not hypeIf you’re building a product brand, navigating adversity, or trying to align business growth with real impact, this episode is for you.As always, let’s build boldly. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

If you want to scale your business, your financial systems have to scale with you—or they’ll quietly become the thing that breaks everything.In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Paul Anthony, founder and CEO of Opstart, to break down how entrepreneurs should set up bookkeeping, accounts receivable, accounts payable, banking, payroll, and taxes from day one.Paul shares why “winging it” with finances leads to lost cash, missed tax credits, valuation issues, and unnecessary stress, and how clean, scalable systems protect your time and your bottom line as you grow.You’ll learn:How to properly separate personal and business finances earlyWhy accurate bookkeeping is the foundation for every financial decisionHow to set up AR/AP systems that don’t steal your timeWhich tools actually work (QuickBooks, Gusto, Ramp, Bill.com)When to outsource bookkeeping vs. hire a controller or fractional CFOHow poor financial hygiene can hurt fundraising, acquisitions, and exitsWhy scalable systems matter long before you hit $1M in revenueWhether you’re just getting started or cleaning up financial chaos, this episode gives you a clear, practical roadmap to build a financial foundation that supports real growth. Learn more about Paul Anthony and Opstart on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-anthony-8a256087/https://www.linkedin.com/company/opstartsb/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

As companies grow, founders often become the biggest bottleneck. In the final episode of the Business Roadmap series, host Pat Rodgers tackles one of the most overlooked drivers of business success: personal growth for business owners.Pat shares practical, experience-driven advice on how to transition from doing everything yourself to working on the business by identifying your weakest points, hiring or outsourcing strategically, and letting go of control so your business can scale.This episode covers how to:Identify and fill leadership gaps through hiring, outsourcing, or contractorsShift from operator to strategic leader without losing momentumFind the right mentors inside and outside your industryBuild a personal book club to support continuous learningBlock non-negotiable time to think strategically instead of fighting daily firesCreate a support system, including a non-business “hype person,” to handle the emotional weight of leadershipPat also shares why neglecting personal development doesn’t just hurt the business, it impacts employees, families, and long-term sustainability.If you’re an entrepreneur, founder, or business owner feeling stretched thin, this episode will help you reclaim clarity, build the right support systems, and grow both personally and professionally, so your business can thrive long term.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

If your business isn’t growing, it’s usually not a product problem—it’s a sales or marketing problem. In episode 3 of the Build Boldly Business Roadmap series, host Pat Rodgers dives into one of the most important skills every entrepreneur must master: sales and marketing.Pat breaks down how business owners can build a repeatable, measurable sales system using a CRM, clearly define their Ideal Client Profile (ICP), and eliminate friction that slows deals down. He explains why tracking wins and losses matters, how to replicate top-performing sales behaviors, and how to align sales goals with compensation and realistic timelines.On the marketing side, Pat makes a strong case for treating marketing as a non-negotiable investment, not an afterthought. He walks through how to set a marketing plan and budget, why outsourcing early often makes more sense than hiring in-house, and how local SEO can drive high-intent leads for businesses that serve specific geographies.You’ll learn how to:-Implement and use a CRM to track leads, deals, and performance-Identify and double down on your Ideal Client Profile- Replicate top sellers’ behaviors with a sales playbook- Remove friction from your sales process- Set sales goals tied directly to compensation- Build a marketing plan that actually drives revenueThis episode is a tactical guide to building a sales and marketing engine that scales. Next week, Pat wraps up the Roadmap series with Personal Growth and Leadership.Until then, like, share, and Build Boldly.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

If you want to grow, scale, and sleep at night, your numbers have to be right. In episode 2 of the Build Boldly Business Roadmap series, host Pat Rodgers tackles one of the most critical, and most overlooked, pillars of entrepreneurship: finance and accounting.Pat breaks down how business owners should approach bookkeeping, budgeting, and cash flow management at every stage—from early spreadsheets to tools like QuickBooks, automation platforms, and outsourced bookkeeping support. He explains why clean books are essential for everything from pricing and hiring to securing financing and making confident decisions.You’ll learn how to:- Level up your bookkeeping and stop flying blind- Build a budget and pro forma model to test growth scenarios- Understand cash flow so payroll never becomes a surprise- Build strong relationships with community banks- Work with a business tax accountant to eliminate year-end stressThis episode is a practical, no-fluff guide to building financial clarity and discipline.Next week, Pat dives into Sales & Marketing, where strategy meets execution.Until then, like, share, and Build Boldly.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

"Hope is not a strategy." In the first episode of the Build Boldly 2026 Business Roadmap series, host Pat Rodgers breaks down the foundation every successful business needs: strategy and operations.Too many entrepreneurs rely on hustle and hope instead of a clear plan. In this episode, Pat walks through his top five strategy and operations principles to help business owners move from reactive to intentional growth. From conducting a 360° review of 2025 to identifying bottlenecks, defining a North Star goal, setting measurable milestones, and, most importantly, getting true buy-in from your team, this episode lays the groundwork for the entire year ahead.You’ll learn:        •        How to perform a full 360° business review (the wins and the misses)        •        Why strategy without operations is meaningless and operations without strategy fail        •        How to identify the roadblocks and bottlenecks holding your business back        •        How to define a clear North Star goal that your entire team can rally behind        •        Why employee buy-in is the single most important driver of execution and growthWhether you’re a new entrepreneur or a seasoned operator, this episode will help you build a clear, executable plan for 2026. Specifically, a plan that removes friction, aligns your team, and sets the stage for sustainable growth.Next up in the series: Finance & Accounting, the cornerstones of every healthy business.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

What does it really take to launch, survive, and scale a business in today’s world?In this season-finale episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers is joined by Allison Barber to reflect on the first year of the podcast. They unpack the most surprising entrepreneurial journeys, hard-earned lessons, and behind-the-scenes realities they uncovered while speaking with founders, operators, and small business owners across industries.Pat and Allison also get into themes of vulnerability, mentorship, persistence, and why having the right space and support can be a turning point for growth. They share what surprised them most about podcasting itself, and why Build Boldly is expanding to YouTube in 2026.Plus, they give us the scoop on an upcoming 2026 Business Roadmap mini-series, designed as a practical crash course to help entrepreneurs get their business right and set themselves up for success in the year ahead.If you’re building, scaling, or resetting your business, this episode brings the reflection and the roadmap you need to move forward with confidence.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

What does it take to grow a side hustle into a full-scale business? In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers sits down with Jim Hribar, founder of Rebar Labs, to explore the entrepreneurial journey from software engineering to building a thriving 3D printing business. Jim shares how he turned a side hustle selling model train mounts on Etsy into a company now running 15 machines and fulfilling orders for more than 300 national and international clients.You’ll hear insights on:Leveraging platforms like Shopify, Amazon, and Etsy for growthOptimizing warehouse space and machine capacity to scaleExpanding into fulfillment and new product linesUsing AI tools to streamline operations and marketingThe future of 3D printing for replacement parts and niche productsIf you’re an entrepreneur interested in e-commerce, 3D printing, or scaling a niche business into something much bigger, this episode is packed with actionable lessons.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

In honor of Veterans Day, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Donte Bryson Jr., founder and creative director of BRYLAMAR, a luxury fashion brand For Dreamers Who Do. Donte shares his journey from serving in the U.S. Navy to launching a high-end design label inspired by mid-century architecture, discipline, and purpose.In this inspiring episode, Donte opens up about turning grief into motivation, balancing structure and creativity, and the nine-month process of developing his first luxury handbag. From designing t-shirts in his apartment to operating out of a warehouse, his story is one of resilience, refinement, and relentless self-belief.If you’ve ever dreamed of building something bigger than yourself, this episode will remind you that structure, discipline, and passion can turn any vision into reality.https://www.brylamar.com/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Running a business with your best friend sounds like a dream, until it’s not. In this episode of Build Boldly, Allison Barber sits down with Elizabeth Coratola and Lauren Schouweiler, co-owners of COCO the Shop, to talk about the real dynamics of partnership. From communicating through conflict and dividing responsibilities, to protecting your friendship in the process.Together, they share what it takes to run a thriving women-owned boutique that blends confidence and comfort while navigating the emotional and practical challenges of entrepreneurship. From handling disagreements and different work styles to staying grounded through change, this conversation is a masterclass in honesty, resilience, and collaboration.Whether you’re in business with a partner or simply want to build stronger communication skills as a leader, this episode is a must-listen for women entrepreneurs who believe in growing boldly and gracefully.Learn more at www.cocotheshop.com- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

In honor of Women’s Small Business Month, host Allison Barber, Marketing Director at RISE Commercial District, sits down with Liz James, owner of Standard Wax, to talk about what it’s really like to run a business while raising a family.After buying the candle company just six months after becoming a new mom, Liz faced uncertainty, long hours, and plenty of self-doubt. But by trusting her instincts and leaning into her design background, she turned Standard Wax into a profitable, growing business known for its stunning marble candle vessels and loyal customers.In this episode, Liz shares how she redefined success on her own terms, found balance between ambition and motherhood, and learned that slowing down can actually accelerate growth. Whether you’re a mompreneur, small business owner, or simply navigating the push and pull of life and work, this conversation is full of heart, honesty, and encouragement.Learn more about Liz's journey at standardwax.com.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

In this special episode of Build Boldly, guest host Allison Barber takes the mic in celebration of National Women’s Small Business Month to share a heartfelt and practical guide for women entrepreneurs everywhere.Drawing from her own journey as an entrepreneur and as Marketing Director at Rise Commercial District, Allison introduces five powerful books that have shaped her perspective on business, leadership, and balance. From redefining time management and building meaningful community to clarifying your brand message and leading with heart, each recommendation offers wisdom to help you simplify, grow, and thrive.If you’ve ever felt the weight of juggling too many roles or the loneliness that can come with entrepreneurship, this episode is your reminder to slow down, find your people, and build boldly. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

In this solo episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers opens up about the often-unspoken side of entrepreneurship and leadership, the toll it takes on mental health. From crippling anxiety and imposter syndrome to personal trauma and the relentless pressure of meeting payroll, Pat shares his own journey of pushing too hard, bottling up grief, and ultimately learning why high performers can’t succeed alone.Through candid reflections, he unpacks how unchecked expectations and hidden struggles can cloud judgment, stall growth, and erode relationships. More importantly, he shares why talking, sharing, and building a support system is not a weakness but a strength, and the key to unlocking your next level.If you’re an entrepreneur, leader, or operator carrying heavy responsibilities, this episode is a reminder that mental health is a team sport, and caring for yourself is the foundation for building boldly.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

It's true, there are a few essential leasing strategies every business owner should know before signing on the dotted line. In this solo episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers breaks down each step. From identifying your true space requirements—like delivery access, 24/7 availability, and customer-facing potential—to understanding the real all-in costs of a lease, Pat reveals the common pitfalls that can stall business growth.You’ll learn how flexible leasing can give your company the freedom to scale up or down, the pros and cons of different lease terms, and why right sizing (or even downsizing) can actually improve productivity by bringing you closer to your customers. Pat also explains how to evaluate hidden costs, negotiate terms that fit your goals, and align your leasing strategy with your long-term business vision.Whether you’re a small business looking for office space, warehouse storage, or a turnkey commercial solution, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you avoid costly mistakes and position your business for sustainable growth.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Thinking about expanding your business? In this solo episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers breaks down the key factors every business owner should consider before growing into new markets or locations. From analyzing market demand and matching demographics to weighing the pros and cons of leasing versus buying commercial property, Pat shares actionable strategies to reduce risks and maximize growth potential.You’ll learn how leasing impacts cash flow and financial flexibility, why many companies are moving away from property ownership, and how to build accurate financial models to project revenue and expenses. Pat also compares flex spaces versus traditional office spaces, explaining which model works best for businesses needing warehousing, storage, or combined operations. Whether you’re a small business owner eyeing your first expansion or a seasoned operator ready for the next step, this episode will help you make smarter, more strategic decisions about your growth.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Signing a commercial lease can make or break your small business, but too many owners rush in without understanding the true costs and risks. In this solo episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers breaks down the five biggest mistakes business owners make when leasing commercial property and how to avoid them.From hidden costs in triple net, modified gross, and gross leases to overlooked zoning restrictions, Pat covers the fine print that could cost you thousands. You’ll learn how to negotiate better terms, plan for growth, assess building condition, and protect yourself with a solid exit strategy. Whether you’re opening your first location or expanding to a new space, this episode will help you evaluate commercial lease agreements like a pro - and avoid costly surprises down the road.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

What happens when a disaster strikes and you need a recovery team that can move fast, but also understands the local landscape? In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rogers sits down with Mike Bowman of BMS CAT, a national leader in restoration and reconstruction services. Mike shares how BMS CAT has built a powerful operational model that blends centralized leadership with local branch autonomy, creating a seamless response system that serves clients across industries nationwide.From emergency response coordination to regional expertise and internal communication systems, this conversation unpacks how BMS CAT delivers rapid, professional service while supporting their branch teams to lead with confidence. If you're interested in scaling your service business or exploring smart acquisition models, this is one you won’t want to miss.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Commercial leases can make or break a growing business, and yet too many entrepreneurs walk into them blind. In this solo episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers pulls back the curtain on the most common misconceptions around commercial leasing and shares the real-world advice small business owners wish they knew before signing on the dotted line.From unexpected hidden costs to the myths about needing a realtor, Pat outlines the critical questions every founder should ask from square footage and lease terms to flexibility for future growth. You’ll learn why the sticker price isn’t the full story, how to avoid getting trapped in the wrong space, and what to prioritize if you want your space to scale with your ambition.If you're thinking about leasing commercial property or leveling up your workspace, this episode is your essential guide to making a smart, strategic move.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

What does it take to bet on yourself and build a business from scratch? Especially one that powers the live shows of Post Malone, 21 Pilots, and hundreds of touring artists? In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with TJ Beechill, founder of NEAT Audio, to unpack his remarkable journey from Sweetwater sales engineer to co-owner of a nationally recognized tech company in the live music space.TJ shares how a cold DM and a single opportunity turned into a full-blown enterprise, providing critical playback redundancy systems to over 300 national touring acts. You’ll hear how he navigated leaving a full-time job, scaled operations out of his garage, and built a partnership with Sweetwater that transformed his business.If you are a creative entrepreneur or a tech founder-in-the-making, this episode is packed with tactical insights on calculated risk-taking, work-life balance, strategic growth, and the power of betting on yourself.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

From AI, cybersecurity, to MSP strategy, IT has the ability to make or break your business. In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers is joined by Marcus Livers, Director of RISE Connect and resident IT expert, for a crash course in building a secure, scalable, and tech-savvy business. They break down the role of Managed Service Providers (MSPs), cybersecurity and ransomware protection to cloud solutions, communication platforms, and AI tools like ChatGPT.Marcus shares practical strategies for choosing the right software, avoiding outdated tech bottlenecks, implementing mobile device management (MDM), and future-proofing your business with scalable IT infrastructure.Whether you’re a solo founder or managing a growing team, this episode offers real-world insights into protecting your digital assets, improving internal operations, and leveraging technology to drive growth. If you're ready to stop patching problems and start planning for the future, this conversation is your IT playbook.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

After a costly misstep with the wrong web development partner, host Pat Rodgers from RISE sits down with the person who helped turn it all around, Bradley Givens, CEO of Expedition. In this episode of Build Boldly, they dive into what really makes a high-performing website, how to avoid vendor pitfalls, and why investing in the right partner is critical for long-term business growth.Bradley shares how Expedition helps service-based businesses optimize their websites for conversion, not just aesthetics. They break down why low-cost solutions can cost more in the long run, how to identify the right time to move beyond DIY platforms like Squarespace, and what business owners should demand from their web vendors. Plus, learn how Expedition’s new pricing transparency tool is changing the game for business owners who want clarity and control in their website projects.Whether you’re planning a new website or trying to fix a broken one, this conversation is packed with real-world insights, hard-earned lessons, and tactical advice for building a digital presence that drives results.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

What happens when it all goes sideways? In this special solo episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers shares a raw, behind-the-scenes look at a major misstep: a website launch that went completely off the rails. What started as a promising project quickly unraveled into missed deadlines, poor communication, and a steep drop in leads that threatened the business’s momentum.Pat, CRO of RISE Commercial District, walks through the full story, from trusting the wrong development partner to recovering lost ground, and shares hard-earned lessons about documentation, vendor selection, and why transparency and ownership are non-negotiable in business. If you’ve ever made a costly decision or felt the sting of a project gone sideways, this episode is your blueprint for how to fail fast, fix faster, and build back stronger.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Print is far from dead. In this episode, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Blaine Yoquelet, the dynamic owner of Fort Wayne Printing, to explore the evolution of this 120-year-old family business into a modern print powerhouse. Blaine discusses his journey of acquiring the company, the pivotal role of succession planning, and how he’s navigating the shift between digital and traditional print media.You'll learn how Fort Wayne Printing blends old-school trust with new-age strategies, utilizing QR codes for tracking and leveraging joint ventures to enhance flexibility and reach. Blaine also shares insights on the unique trustworthiness of print in today’s digital world.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

For Justin Ressler, military precision translated into entrepreneurial success. In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Justin, founder of Lite Comm, a veteran-owned business specializing in FAA lighting compliance within the telecom industry. Justin shares how the principles of discipline and relationship-building learned in service have been pivotal in navigating the complex world of telecom compliance and insurance.Justin talks through the growth trajectory of Lite Comm, from overcoming imposter syndrome to mastering the art of strategic hiring and diversification. He emphasizes the importance of a robust support system, both professional and personal, and the critical role of training and compliance in ensuring the safety and efficiency of telecom operations.Tune in to learn from Justin's journey of translating military precision into entrepreneurial success and discover how building the right team and embracing continuous learning can propel your business forward in a competitive industry.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Jeff Wraley, CEO and founder of Groundwork, is here to bring a unique perspective to the table, merging his contracting background with innovative software solutions to revolutionize the sales process for home service providers. In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers explores how Groundwork aims to streamline operations, reduce waste, and significantly enhance customer satisfaction by understanding and addressing consumer pain points.Jeff and Pat discuss the challenges and opportunities of disrupting the residential trades market, emphasizing the shift towards digital interactions and the critical role of technology in adapting to the ‘Amazon effect’ of consumer expectations. They talk about the importance of speed and efficiency in sales, how Groundwork helps contractors qualify leads better, and the overall impact of digital solutions on customer experiences. Jeff also shares invaluable career advice, stressing the need to recognize the different phases of one’s career and understand the strategic game being played in the industry.Tune in to gain insights on leveraging technology to not only meet but exceed customer expectations in home services, and learn how focusing on specific problems can lead to more effective solutions and business growth.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Before taking the leap with an Archadeck franchise, Ryan Pape felt his career had stagnated. In this episode of Build Boldly, host Pat Rodgers sits down with Ryan to explore his journey from starting a franchise to navigating the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic, which disrupted supply chains and required innovative marketing strategies to maintain demand for outdoor living spaces.Ryan discusses the crucial role of robust vendor relationships, the strategic advantage of a showroom for enhancing customer engagement, and how a strong support network within his franchise helped him overcome both personal and professional obstacles. He offers candid insights into the realities of business, including financial management, the science of effective marketing, and the importance of cultivating a positive company culture. Plus, Ryan shares valuable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs on capital planning.Tune in to discover how Ryan’s commitment to process, team building, and continuous learning has established him as a leader in his field, and how his experiences can help you build boldly too.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

In this episode of Build Boldly, Pat Rodgers interviews Blake Schneider, President of Legacy Fire Protection, about the dynamic growth and strategic expansion of the company. Originally a small division, Blake and his father acquired and transformed Legacy into a leading full-service provider, reinventing customer service standards in the fire protection industry. Blake talks about the company’s early days operating out of his apartment and garage in Indianapolis, and how moving to a space at RISE Commercial District provided the necessary legitimacy and business address to support their expansion.Learn how Legacy Fire Protection differentiates itself in a competitive market through exceptional customer relations and transparent communication. Blake also shares insights on expanding into new territories like Fort Wayne and the future plans for Legacy’s growth. This episode offers invaluable lessons on leveraging company culture and core values to drive sustainable business expansion.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Paul Nichol transitioned from a 25-year career at 3M to franchising with Floor Coverings International, a move he describes as the ‘best decision’ of his career. In this episode, host Pat Rodgers talks with Paul about how his extensive background in service and quality at 3M is crucial to his new venture, driving customer satisfaction with a unique mobile showroom and upholding an impressive 4.8-star review average.Paul details why the structured support and execution-focused nature of franchising drew him in after decades in the corporate sphere. He discusses the advantages of collaborating within a franchise co-op and the invaluable support from corporate coaches. Listeners will also gain practical advice for aspiring franchisees on how to conduct thorough research and choose a franchise that aligns with their passions and skills.Tune in to discover how Paul bet on himself and learn why he believes franchising offers a balanced approach to business ownership with manageable risk.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Following job losses due to COVID, Thomas Harding and Jacob Strong launched their venture from a humble storage unit and have since advanced to a professional setup at RISE Commercial District. Their mantra for aspiring entrepreneurs: bet on yourself, prioritize quality, and never hesitate to seek assistance. In this episode, they sit down with host Pat Rodgers to share their story.Thomas and Jacob discuss how strategic partnerships with industry veterans and suppliers propelled their business forward, and emphasize the pivotal role of quality service, trust, and smart financing in scaling their operations. The duo also stresses the importance of delegation, staying compliant, and nurturing relationships to ensure sustained growth. Tune in to hear Thomas and Jacob’s insights, proving that with the right mindset and support, turning ‘pipe dreams’ into a successful reality is indeed possible.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Patty Costlow is a former mechanical engineer who turned her passion for floral arrangements into a thriving business, Florals by Patty. In this episode, Patty sits down with host Pat Rodgers to share her path from engineering to managing a successful floral design company that now caters to 35-40 weddings annually, booked up to 16 months in advance.How did she do it? Patty leveraged her engineering skills for meticulous planning and problem-solving in her floral business. She talk about the importance of building a robust network, embracing failures as learning opportunities, and using social media to amplify her reach. Plus, you'll learn the crucial roles of partnerships, mentorship, and community support in business success. Tune in for invaluable advice on financial planning, effective staffing, and the art of owning mistakes to propel business growth.Learn more about Florals by Patty Website | Instagram - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Host Pat Rodgers welcomes Dr. Zach Thomas, known as ‘Foot Doctor Zach’ on YouTube, a board-certified podiatrist who has become a viral online sensation. In this episode, Zach details his journey from working in a traditional podiatry role to embracing entrepreneurship by starting his own practice and creating a popular YouTube channel focused on sports medicine.Zach shares his path into product development and consulting, and how he has built a robust network of trusted partners, all while continuing his practice. If you are looking to build a personal brand, diversify income streams, or expand professionally, this episode is packed with invaluable insights.For more on Zach’s work, visit his YouTube channel or follow him on Instagram.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co. 

Welcome to Build Boldly with Pat Rodgers, Chief Revenue Officer at RISE Commercial District. Across a variety of industries, Pat has seen businesses grow from the ground up. And now, he's here to bring those experiences to you. Every two weeks, join us for stories from entrepreneurs and operators who have made a mark in their fields. Ready to get to work? Subscribe and learn actionable strategies from those who have been there before. If you’re ready to build, build boldly. Tune in now and let’s get to work.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Connect with Pat Rodgers on LinkedInLearn more about RISE Commercial District Website | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn Build Boldly is produced by Palm Tree Pod Co.