Change Order Podcast

Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business development to case prioritization. They also cover the psychology of restarting after failure, why hustling doesn't matter if your fundamentals are wrong, and how having no options can be liberating.Find more like this on Change Order.Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business development to case prioritization. They also cover the psychology of restarting after failure, why hustling doesn't matter if your fundamentals are wrong, and how having no options can be liberating.Find more like this on Change Order.Connect with us here:Dan Mishin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielmishin/Jason Shuman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/00:00 Introduction02:30 From Crimea to Berlin: The Origin of a Business Idea09:45 Building a Hostel Empire Across 13 Countries21:30 Exiting a Business and the Decision to Start Over29:00 Arriving in America: The First Call That Changed Everything38:00 Why He Refused to Build Another Legal Software Company47:30 Inside Manifest OS: Reimagining How Legal Work Gets Done57:00 Global Expansion and the Future of Legal Services

AI is changing what it means to be good at your job.Dan Shipper, co-founder and CEO of Every, shares how he went from productivity writer to leading an AI-native company running six apps with a lean team, without being a full-time engineer.In this episode with Jason Shuman, Dan gets into:- how shipping work now looks more like directing - systems than writing code- why managing AI feels like running a company- how compound systems prevent the same mistakes from happening again- why allocation is becoming the most important skill heading into 2026This episode offers a clear look at how founders and operators are adapting as AI reshapes how work gets done.Connect with us here:Dan Shipper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danshipper/Jason Shuman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/Every Inc: https://www.linkedin.com/company/everyinc/Change Order: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/

When’s the last time you had a good customer experience?Alex Levin, Co-founder and CEO of Regal AI, is building AI Phone Agents that handle millions of customer calls for a small fraction of the cost, and drive higher customer satisfaction. In this episode with Jason Shuman, Levin gets into:• why companies moved away from phone calls despite customer demand.• how legacy vendors decided voice wasn’t worth improving.• why AI voice is now cheaper and more consistent than humans.• what slows big companies from adopting voice AI.• how AI handles the tier-1 work while humans focus on harder problems.Connect with us here:1. Alex Levin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlevin12. Jason Shuman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/

What if the future of law isn’t about replacing lawyers, but supercharging them?Ryan Daniels, Co-founder and CEO of Crosby, is building the world’s first AI-powered law firm that blends human judgment with machine speed to handle contracts in hours, not days.In this episode with Jason Shuman, he discusses:• why the $1T legal industry is finally ready for automation.• how Crosby became an AI-first law firm that works through Slack.• what he learned from India’s legal outsourcing boom.• why speed is the real edge in legal tech.• how AI and human lawyers now work side by side.Connect with us here:1. Ryan Daniels- https://www.linkedin.com/in/crosbyryan/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/

The pace of innovation has never been faster or harder to follow.Mario Gabriele, founder of The Generalist, a newsletter and community helping over 150K readers make sense of what matters in tech, AI, and venture, joins Jason Shuman to share how deep research and storytelling help him decode the forces shaping what’s next.They get into:• the mental models behind The Generalist’s most-read stories• why 95% of early stage investing comes down to the founder• how writing builds sharper intuition than data ever couldConnect with us here:1. Mario Gabriele- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariogabriele/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/00:00 Trailer01:06 The Generalist: From Concept to Execution04:12 Writing Process and Research Techniques13:04 Navigating the Media Landscape and Investment Insights35:51 Challenges in Seed Stage Investing36:47 Evaluating Founders: Insights from Hummingbird45:11 Market Dynamics and AI Bubble59:00 Lessons from the Generalist's Journey

With emergency response times under three minutes, the future of public safety is airborne.Rahul Sidhu, co-founder and CEO of Aerodome, joins Jason Shuman on Change Order to share how he and his team are deploying drones as ‘first responders’, combining automation and aviation to transform how cities handle critical events.Together, they explore:• how a pandemic-induced staffing crisis gave rise to a new model of air support• why policing is entering its “guy in the chair” era• what DJI taught the world about market capture and policyConnect with us here:1. Rahul Sidhu- https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahulsidhu/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/

What if AI’s most transformative impact starts where we least expect it, in a classroom?Adeel Khan, former principal and CEO of MagicSchool, turned this insight into an AI platform helping over 6 million educators reduce burnout and elevate teaching.On Change Order, with Jason Shuman, he shares:• the role of teachers in guiding AI to personalize learning for each student.• how MagicSchool became one of the few AI tools approved by multiple districts.• the importance of trust when scaling AI in sensitive environments like schools.• how MagicSchool addresses the unique workload of special education teachers.Connect with us here:1. Adeel Khan- https://www.linkedin.com/in/adeelkh/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/

What if government spending was as searchable as the web?Justin Wenig, founder & CEO of Starbridge, joins Jason to unpack how his team uses AI and FOIA at scale to make public spending transparent and actionable for both vendors and agencies.In this episode of Change Order, they get into:• how FOIA becomes a go-to-market superpower (and how to operationalize it)• building the largest purchase/contract graph in gov• why “use it or lose it” budgets entrench waste• the sales headcount trap in vertical SaaS• fundraising without “ninja tricks”Connect with us here:1. Justin Starbridge- https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinwenig2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/  3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/  4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/  

First-party fraud costs businesses over $100 billion a year, often because finance teams rely on outdated systems.Enter Casap, an AI-driven platform that reduces fraud losses and simplifies dispute resolution.On Change Order, Shanthi Shanmugam, CEO and co-founder, shares how her experience in product and customer care at Robinhood inspired the creation of Casap.She also discusses with Jason Shuman:• why every dispute is a test of trust• how AI and humans collaborate to resolve disputes in minutes• what it takes to turn regulatory rules into a competitive advantageConnect with us here:1. Shanthi Shanmugam- https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanthi-shanmugam-4057284a/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/

From sleeping in auto shops to raising $33M.Adi Bathla’s founder story is one of grit, timing, and a relentless pursuit of repeatability. Now, as CEO of Revv, he’s digitizing one of the most offline industries in America.He joins Jason Shuman to share:• the moment he knew Revv had product-market fit• why burning the boats was the only way forward• lessons from jet.com, Misfits Market, and Walmart that shaped him• the founder mindset shift from doing everything → scaling through people• why unlearning intensity is the hardest part of scalingConnect with us here:1. Adi Bathla- https://www.linkedin.com/in/adibathla/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/(00:00) Introduction(01:09) What is Revv(03:07) Why Now: Regulation + Tech(04:14) Metal + Software Repairs(07:10) Before vs. After Revv(10:15) Co-pilot for Every Role(12:18) AI & Feedback Loops(29:08) No Plan B: Founding Rev(39:42) Repeatable Pitch, 80% Close(48:19) Platform vs. Incumbents(1:00:29) Revenue-Tied Pricing(1:24:38) DOT: Proof of Calibration

Why spend months chasing lenders, investors and tax credit buyers when you can connect instantly to the largest network?Allen Kramer, co-founder and COO of Crux, joins Jason Shuman to unpack how Crux is transforming U.S. clean energy finance, helping over 715+ developers, manufacturers, and investors unlock the capital needed to meet the nation’s surging energy demand, all on one single platform.They also explore:• how to raise and spend capital without losing discipline• the difference between AI in consumer markets and high-stakes industries• what it takes to turn a national policy shift into real world projectsConnect with us here:1. Allen Kramer- https://www.linkedin.com/in/allen-kramer-9810883a/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/

What if gaining success only raises the stakes?Having operated at the center of scale, Michael Tannenbaum, the former COO of Brex and now CEO of Figure and Arthur Levy, CBO of Brex, share how they’ve kept their edge, and where AI is pushing fintech next.They join Jason Shuman to discuss:​there’s more to operating than being great at finance​how saying ‘no’ becomes the hardest part of success​why financial services should focus on Blockchain over AI​why AI is still being used as an experimental tool by enterprisesConnect with us here:​ Michael Tannenbaum- https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeltannenbaum/​ Arthur Levy- https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthurlevy/​ Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/​ Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/​ Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/00:52 Introduction & Guest Background01:11 VC-to-Operator Transition01:50 Choosing SoFi: Strategy & Early Growth03:07 SoFi’s Scale & Role Scope05:52 First Meeting in Cancun & Boston Roots07:02 Reconnecting in San Francisco & Partnerships09:14 Mentor-to-Peer Dynamics11:06 Recruiting Art to Brex & First Republic Deal15:45 Role Evolution & Career Pivot at Brex20:26 Fall ’23 Crisis & Strategic Refocus22:04 “Big Rocks” Focus Framework24:34 AI vs. Blockchain in Financial Services29:59 Internal AI Adoption & Use Cases33:02 Reimagining Sales Motion with AI38:35 Market Segmentation & Customer Focus41:43 Rapid-Fire Insights: Mistakes, Books, Mayoral Picks49:24 Blockchain & Stablecoin in Capital Markets53:02 Leading AI Adoption: Teams & Strategy56:46 Future of SDR & GTM Roles with AI59:59 AI’s Broader Impact on Ecosystem1:04:27 Rapid-Fire Round: Personal Picks1:09:51 Closing Remarks & Outro

Is AI a threat to creativity or the ultimate creative assistant?Shane Hegde, Co-founder and CEO of Air, believes it’s the latter. With roots in creative writing and a career pivot into computer science, Shane set out to build a platform that leverages AI to free creative teams from routine tasks.In this of episode of Change Order⁠, he joins Jason Shuman⁠ to unpack:why every brand needs creativity as an expression of its identitywhy it is a waste of time for companies to try to be the best at everythinghow constantly seeking mentors helps you level upwhy he admires Shopify’s approachhow Air plans to evolve into the platform that takes you from 1 to 100Connect with us here: Shane HegdeJason ShumanChange OrderPrimary Venture Partners00:00:00 Trailer00:00:46 Introduction00:01:01 Ruined by AI?00:06:35 Next gen mass market creative00:12:16 Approaching creative work00:17:09 Evolution and demand00:31:04 100x easier00:36:51 Closed vs open ecosystem00:45:40 Constraints breeds creativity00:53:56 Pushing the envelope more00:59:01 Playing at the bottom01:01:43 Growing up as a founder01:07:55 What would you change?01:13:31 Outro

Solving Hollywood’s pain with vertical fintech.Ali Javid, CEO and Co-founder of Wrapbook, and his team want to make sure no one gets left waiting.In this episode of Change Order he joins Jason Shuman to reveal how Wrapbook helps production teams handle payroll and accounting more smoothly and quickly.On the docket:• how Wrapbook digitized payroll from end to end • why trade wars must factor in America’s soft power in film • why founders can't think like VCs • how merit is the gate and then DEIB very much mattersConnect with us here:1. Ali Javid- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alijavid/2. Jason Shuman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/3. Change Order- https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/4. Primary Venture Partners- https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/00:00 Introduction00:17 Trailer01:20 Strengths and weaknesses07:56 Global problems in Hollywood11:36 Chasing paper15:29 Hard tech and an exit18:36 Confidence in conviction22:53 Trust, payroll, character31:56 Challenging wartime moments34:40 MrBeast, Apple TV+, AI42:25 Change, thanks to AI?48:32 Scaling and culture50:47 Rhetoric has changed53:44 Every person is created equally57:33 What would you change?59:51 Outro

In S1, Jason Shuman spoke with Ryan Serhant, Codie Sanchez, and Ankur Jain about steering through change.Season 2 brings Ali Javid, Michael Tennenbaum, Shane Hegde, and more into the conversation, exploring the crucibles that have shaped their journeys.Links to the new YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts feeds are in the comments.

In a market where Manhattan offices sit empty and $1.5T in real estate debt awaits refinancing, timing is paramount. Ask Scott Rechler—he sold his company at the peak in '07, waited out the crash, then built RXR into a $17 B GAV empire.In this episode of Change Order, hosted by Jason Shuman, he shares: • how he built a $6B business— twice• handling Carl Icahn's hostile takeover bid • what he learnt from Sam Zell & Danny Meyer• how he trusted his gut over family and shareholder adviceABOUT US:Primary is the largest early-stage venture firm in the world, with over $1B in Assets Under Management, and notable investments under its belt include unicorns like Slice, Chief, Electric, and more.With a dedicated team of Partners, Associates, and Advisors, Primary operates with one clear modus operandi: to allocate unreasonable resources toward building unfair advantages.Follow us on LinkedIn:Scott RechlerJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners(00:00:00) Trailer(00:00:45) Introduction(00:01:00) Founder Drift(00:03:00) Focus(00:06:50) The template and the process(00:09:16) Investors and firm builders(00:12:09) Entrepreneurial mindset(00:15:31) Understanding business intricacies(00:19:58) Engagement strategy(00:23:10) IPO insights and decisions(00:30:28) Public vs Private(00:33:27) Highly efficient private market(00:36:12) The January 7 acquisition(00:40:57) Secession planning(00:43:25) Starting RXR a day later(00:45:27) Self-funding 150 employees(00:47:03) A blank piece of paper(00:48:51) Recession(00:53:56) Sam's story(00:57:02) Maintaining conviction(00:59:18) Expanding beyond familiar markets(01:05:41) New York(01:07:56) RXR Involvement and startup insights(01:12:33) Qualities of startup founders(01:16:29) Mayor of New York(01:17:45) Outro

Meet Ryan Serhant, the CEO of SERHANT, and star of the hit show, "Million Dollar Listing New York” we all love.From struggling actor to real estate mogul, Ryan’s journey is nothing short of inspiring.In this episode, he shares:• How he grew from $9,200 to $2B in sales in 2022, with sights set on $5B in 2024• The applications of AI in real estate• How being an actor taught him sales• The ups and downs of using his TV fame to build trust in a tough marketRyan’s story is about more than sales or even real estate—it’s about adapting, innovating, and connecting.Ryan SerhantJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners

In this episode of Change Order, Jason Shuman (General Partner at Primary) sits down with Arthur Levy (Chief Business Officer at Brex) to hear his extraordinary journey, from his venture capital roots to becoming an indispensable operator at Brex.Arthur shares the pivotal decisions that shaped his path, reveals how to form strategic partnerships, and unpacks the significance of grit and personal connections in the business world.Learn Arthur’s playbook for networking with authenticity and how he made the successful transition from investor to operator.Connect with Primary: https://primary.vc/people00:00 Introduction01:29 How Arthur made the jump from investing to operating as Brex's CBO06:56 How Arthur pitched to Brex his perfect role09:56 Betting your career on a startup's founders11:28 Brex's positioning and market change13:15 What defines the best founders16:08 Advice for young investors considering a career as a VC18:30 Balancing being blunt and being effective as an operator22:03 Dealing with rejection with business partnerships24:18 How Arthur and Brex thinks about competition25:33 The challenges Brex faced to validate their first product27:44 The power of networking in the right circles28:55 What is a Chief Business Officer?29:56 Lessons from Arthur's role at Brex for evaluating the best talent32:24 Why Art prioritises in-person meetings and showing up34:13 What Arthur's father taught him36:16 Where Arthur got his business acumen37:02 The winning culture at high-performing companies38:39 How to assess the drive of founders39:40 Being open to cold outreach messages because "no's are free”42:18 Tactical advice to make intros as easy as possible⁠Arthur Levy⁠⁠Jason Shuman⁠Primary Venture Partners

Ilir Sela, Founder & CEO of Slice, grew up with pizza in his DNA—his family ran pizzerias in NYC, so he knew the grind inside out.Watching mom-and-pop pizza shops get left behind, he bootstrapped MyPizza in 2009.What started with Ilir entering orders in a Starbucks has grown into Slice—a platform now driving $1B+ in GMV for 20,000+ independent pizzerias, saving them $265M.Primary is proud to have backed Slice from the seed stage.In this conversation, Jason Shuman and Ilir get into:• how Slice evolved from mypizza.com• the power of bootstrapping early• how North Macedonia became a talent hub for Slice• why even 1% M-O-M churn can cripple your startupABOUT US: Primary is the largest early-stage venture firm in the world, with over $1B in Assets Under Management, and notable investments under its belt include unicorns like Slice, Chief, Electric, and more. With a dedicated team of Partners, Associates, and Advisors, Primary operates with one clear modus operandi: to allocate unreasonable resources toward building unfair advantages. Follow us on LinkedIn: Ilir SelaJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners(00:00) Trailer(01:33) The Rise of Slice and Its Macedonian Roots(06:08) Family Legacy in the Pizza Business(14:22) The Birth of Nerdforce(22:12) The Evolution of MyPizza to Slice(30:21) Vertical vs Horizontal Platforms(33:49) Building a Strong Sales Culture(39:43) The Role of AI in SMB Tech(45:42) Venturing into Supplies and VC Funding

Not every experienced leader thrives in a startup. Few people understand this better than Kat Cole. As President & COO of AG1, she’s leading its growth in 60+ countries, driving a global health initiative poised to transform the $6.3 trillion industry.In conversation with Jason Shuman, Kat unpacks:- why 90% of pitches are dead on arrival,- subtle cues that expose a weak founder within minutes and,- the delicate balance between inspiring teams and over-convincing stakeholdersABOUT US:Primary is the largest early-stage venture firm in the world, with over $1B in Assets Under Management, and notable investments under its belt include unicorns like Slice, Chief, Electric, and more.With a dedicated team of Partners, Associates, and Advisors, Primary operates with one clear modus operandi: to allocate unreasonable resources toward building unfair advantages.Follow us on LinkedIn:Kat ColeJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners00:00 Trailer01:02 Introduction01:08 Becoming unpopular, going to the unfamiliar07:36 A learning machine09:49 Building teams11:39 Selecting executive talent14:02 Recruiting and listening18:31 Deep and annoying questions21:37 Red flags23:31 Trying to sell work25:11 Leading in crisis32:22 Over communicating at work37:48 Skip level meetings41:48 Positive intent44:33 The compliment sandwich disproven46:41 Climbing the learning curve as an executive53:30 Almost very little matters without health58:56 Frameworks around big life changes1:02:16 AI's impact in the e-commerce world1:04:53 If you were the mayor of New York1:06:08 Outro

Markets can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent.If you’re a VC, you’ve likely lived through this.Both public and private markets change in a flash, but human nature stays the same.Amidst this, an anti-VC investor emerges.Meet James O’Shaughnessy, Founder and CEO of O'Shaughnessy Ventures LLC.Previously, James founded and chaired OSAM, an asset management firm, and served as Director of Systematic Equity at Bear Stearns Asset Management.In this conversation with Primary GP, Jason Shuman, James dives deep into avoiding biases as an investor, why he has no LPs, and how it pays to be lazy as a VC.ABOUT US: Primary is the largest early-stage venture firm in the world, with over $1B in Assets Under Management, and notable investments under its belt include unicorns like Slice, Chief, Electric, and more. With a dedicated team of Partners, Associates, and Advisors, Primary operates with one clear modus operandi: to allocate unreasonable resources toward building unfair advantages. Follow us on LinkedIn: James O’ShaughnessyJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners00:00:00 Trailer00:01:02 Introduction00:06:33 How history repeats itself with every innovation00:09:34 The role of premeditation in achieving success00:18:25 Differing views on premeditation in investing00:20:23 What sparked James's passion for the stock market00:25:21 The story behind O’Shaughnessy Capital Management 00:32:32 Thinking Like a Quant in Venture Capital00:38:13 The evolution of market structures in AI technology00:46:25 Why private companies win00:53:13 Using AI to enhance critical thinking00:59:22 The secret to becoming a top Venture Capitalist01:05:40 How to avoid 50% of failures in Venture Capital01:10:27 How the Internet revolutionized philanthropy01:14:46 Why parents should encourage kids to Google01:17:19 The one change James would make as Mayor of New York

44 million American households pay rent every month.What incentive do they have, apart from the obvious deterrent of being homeless?Zilch. Nada.Our guest, Ankur Jain, and his team are switching things up. Born to immigrant parents, he sold his company to Tinder, and became VP of Product.Today, he spearheads Bilt Rewards and Kairos.Ankur shares how missing the cut for his basketball team became his first business deal, his mission to reward renters with ownership, and partnering with Wells Fargo and Mastercard to further this mission. ABOUT US: Primary is the largest early-stage venture firm in the world, with over $1B in Assets Under Management, and notable investments under its belt include unicorns like Slice, Chief, Electric, and more. With a dedicated team of Partners, Associates, and Advisors, Primary operates with one clear modus operandi: to allocate unreasonable resources toward building unfair advantages. Follow us on LinkedIn: Ankur JainJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners00:00 Trailer00:55 Introduction06:18 The Life-Changing Impact of Early Career Exposure08:17 Turning a Rejection Into a First Business Win11:54 Spending Discipline is Key for Startup Growth15:07 The Cold Start Problem in Launching Loyalty Program19:33 How a Unique Loyalty Program Secured Major Bank Deals25:42 The Strategy Behind Winning Big Deals in Tech34:39 Unlocking Startup Agility with the Pod Model41:21 Creating a Culture of Possibility43:16 How to Identify Culture Fit During Hiring44:17 How History Influences Modern Business Tactics54:03 Winning Strategies from Alibaba's Playbook01:02:01 Lessons from Startup Incubation in College

Are there too many baby boomer businesses up for grabs? Codie Sanchez thinks so.With 60% of U.S. small businesses owned by baby boomers, she believes the real risk is that no one steps up to buy them.For Codie, what began as a quiet side hustle at Goldman Sachs has grown into an extensive portfolio of small businesses—the kind private equity ignores but, as she insists, you should capitalize on.In this episode of Change Order with Jason Shuman, she explains why:• baby boomer businesses are ripe for acquisition,• you don’t need an MBA for M&A, and• it’s essential to “know yourself” and self-reflect.Codie also discusses her new book, "Main Street Millionaire: How to Make Extraordinary Wealth Buying Ordinary Businesses," sharing insights from her time on Wall Street on strategic acquisitions and the importance of self-awareness in building long-term wealth.ABOUT US: Primary is the largest early-stage venture firm in the world, with over $1B in Assets Under Management, and notable investments under its belt include unicorns like Slice, Chief, Electric, and more. With a dedicated team of Partners, Associates, and Advisors, Primary operates with one clear modus operandi: to allocate unreasonable resources toward building unfair advantages. Follow us on LinkedIn: Codie SanchezJason ShumanPrimary Venture Partners(00:00) Trailer(01:07) Welcome to Change Order(02:31) The Decline of Business Ownership(04:08) The Silver Tsunami and Wealth Transfer(04:57) The Rise of Small Business Acquisitions(07:31) Challenges and Opportunities in Business Ownership(09:36) The Role of Private Equity and Finance(30:47) The Future of Business Education(42:41) Ownership Dynamics in Venture Capital(43:24) Commitment and Board Seats(44:07) Evaluating Founders and Operators(46:19) Interview Techniques and Job Fit(47:56) Work-Life Balance in Startups(49:37) Geographic Considerations in Business Deals(52:22) The Reality of Business Ownership(54:52) Finding and Acquiring Businesses(01:05:39) Time Management and Leadership(01:12:12) Risk and Self-Doubt in Entrepreneurship(01:17:12) Regulation and Common Sense Governance