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Creative Odyssey
by Emil Drud
The Creative Odyssey Podcast explores creativity, work, and life through thoughtful conversations with creators, founders, artists, and thinkers.Hosted by Emil Drud, the podcast is driven by a simple question:How do people create meaningful things in a world full of uncertainty?What emerges are stories, perspectives, and ideas for curious minds interested in creativity, entrepreneurship, culture, and the human experience.Explore the wider world of Creative Odyssey at creativeodyssey.xyz
Episodes
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Cowards Don't Go to Heaven with Eugene Cheong | CO#54
In this conversation, Emil talks with Eugene Cheong about creativity as a lived practice, not just an abstract talent. Eugene shares how his path into advertising, writing, and leadership was shaped by curiosity, reading, football, church, national service, and years of observing human nature. We...
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CO#53 | Learning Your Way Into Opportunity | Michael Vogel
“You don’t need permission to begin. You can learn your way into the role.” In this episode, I speak with Michael Vogel about lifelong learning, curiosity, and building a life without following a predetermined path. Through his work with the Team Academy, we explore what happens when education...
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CO#52 Augmenting Human Potential — AI, Agency & the Futures We Choose | Max Senges
Maybe the real question about AI isn't what it can do in the future, but what we are becoming with it? In this episode, I speak with Prof. Dr. Max Senges about technology, philosophy, education and human agency. We explore AI as an extension of human capability rather than a replacement for it…
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CO#51 | You Can't Teach Meaning | Christian Moore-Anderson
What if learning is not about receiving the right information, but about creating meaning for yourself? In this episode, I speak with biology teacher and author Christian Moore-Anderson about why telling is not the same as teaching. We explore curiosity, fear of being wrong, the limits of exams,...
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Embodied Knowing, Creative Agency & The Art of Paying Attention | Barbara Doran | CO #50
In this episode, I sit down with artist, researcher, and transdisciplinary practitioner Barbara Doran to explore embodied knowing, creative agency, uncertainty, and the role of attention in creative practice. We discuss how making becomes a way of thinking, why creativity extends beyond rational...
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Artist First, Designer Second | James Coffman | CO #49
James Coffman is an artist, designer, and typeface creator whose work has appeared everywhere from independent brands to stores around the world. In this conversation, we explore his unusual path from professional baseball to creative work, the evolution of his visual style, the balance between...
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48 - Making Sustainability Common Sense: Business Models, Supply Chains & Human Behavior (Noah Schaul)
Sustainability doesn’t fail because people don’t care — it fails because systems reward convenience. Together with Noah Schaul, we unpack how purpose, intuition, and smarter business design can turn sustainable choices into the obvious ones. 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:45 Sustainability...
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47 - Rethinking Music Production: Bass, Culture & Better Plugins with Moe Chaieb
“We think we want infinite options, but creativity actually thrives on smart limitations.” Producer and timeoff.audio founder Moe Chaieb joins me to explore how bass, cultural roots, and deliberate limitations shape modern music production—and why the next wave of plugins should enhance creative...
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46 - The Business of Creativity: Why Talent Isn’t Enough with Joel Pilger
“Talent isn’t the problem — ignoring the business side is.” Joel and I dive into the uncomfortable truth that creative talent alone doesn’t lead to success: You need a business mindset to make your work sustainable, valuable, and impactful. We explore how technology, AI, and constant change…
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45 - Daring Over Perfection with Radim Malinic
“Perfectionism is a mask for shame.” Radim Malinic and I explore the art of daring differently — how to create with patience instead of pressure, embrace imperfection, and find meaning in a noisy creative world. It’s a conversation about slowing down, staying true, and rediscovering why we create...
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44 – Being & Becoming with Pia Mailhot-Leichter
Being & Becoming: Exploring Identity, Intuition, and the Work of Art "Show up for your creativity." In this episode of the Creative Odyssey Podcast, Pia and I explore identity, creativity, and the space between being and becoming. We talk about how expectations shape us, why intuition matters…
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EP43 - "Lead the Change: Empowering Young Entrepreneurs" with Florian Hoffmann
“The next generation of entrepreneurs won’t succeed by mastering hard skills alone—it’s their adaptability, optimism, and ability to collaborate that will shape the future.” Florian and I talk about his journey as an entrepreneur, the importance of empowering young innovators, and how community,...
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EP42 - "Tourism Trends: Sustainability, Culture, and Cruise Insights" with Alexis Papathanassis
"An international mindset is essential for education in today’s interconnected world." In this episode, Alexis Papathanassis, rector of the Bremerhaven University of Applied Science, shares his journey from a family background in tourism to becoming a leading researcher in maritime and cruise...
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EP41 - "Unleashing New Material: A Creative Odyssey of Personal Stories with Hamza Khan & Herbert Lui"
"Your story might not feel unique because it's your story, but I promise to everybody else, it's unique." In this episode we dive into the creative odyssey of Hamza Khan and Herbert Lui, exploring themes of creative freedom, personal storytelling, and the development of new material. Join us as…
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EP40 - "The Unfair Advantage: Finding the Edge That’s Already Yours" with Hasan Kubba
"Your unfair advantage isn’t something you lack—it’s something you haven’t noticed yet." Hasan and I talk about how recognizing your unique edge can change everything—from the way you build a business to how you write a book. We unpack the journey behind The Unfair Advantage, why starting before...
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EP39 - "Carving Your Own Path: The Art of Being Multi-Passionate" with Joel Uili
“You can always change it. You’re not stuck—and your calling won’t leave you behind.” Joel and I talk about vocation, soul-aligned work, and why your career path might not be yours at all. We explore career archetypes, the multi-passionate mind, and the tension between calling and conformity.…
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EP38 - "From Blocks to Breakthroughs: Why Participation Beats Perfection" with Herbert Lui
“There’s no right way to do creative work—the only wrong way is to not do anything.” Herbert and I talk about creative blocks, confidence, and why shipping work beats chasing perfection. We dive into his book Creative Doing, his Prologue series, and what we can learn from Kanye West’s trajectory,...
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EP37 - "Cybernetics, Complexity & the Human Factor" with Laksh Raghavan
“Most organizations aren’t failing because people are incompetent—they’re failing because the system makes it impossible to succeed.” In this conversation, Laksh Raghavan and I explore how cybernetics, systems thinking, and multidisciplinary insight help us make sense of organizational failure,...
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EP36 - "Writing, Trust & Winning Long-Term Games" with Luca Dellanna
"It's about building trust and skills." In this episode, Luca Dellanna an me explored how writing can build trust, reputation, and meaningful opportunities over time. Luca unpacks the value of playing long-term games and the creation of positive experiences. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Luca...
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EP35 - "More Than Looks: The Philosophy Behind Aesthetic Experience" with Michael Spicher
“Aesthetics isn’t about making things pretty—it’s about how we experience the world, and that shapes everything.” Philosopher Michael Spicher joins me to explore the role of aesthetics in our everyday lives—from beauty and well-being to business, design, and digital fashion. We unpack how…
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EP34 - "Thinking in Layers: Philosophy, Creativity, and the Complexity of Life" with Gregory Sadler
"Curiosity is really important in philosophy." Philosopher Greg Sadler joins Emil Drud for a deep yet down-to-earth conversation on curiosity, creativity, and the real-world relevance of philosophy. Together, they explore how ideas come to life—from books and music to leadership and everyday...
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EP33 - "Intent, Imitation & the Invisible: Unpacking Behavioral Science" with Matios Berhe
"Intent does matter." Emil Drud and Matthios explore how the unseen forces of environment, imitation, and intent influence our behavior, revealing why adaptability and conscious learning are key to personal transformation in a complex world. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Behavioral Science and...
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EP32 - "People, Patterns & Probabilities: Tech, Money & Meaning" with Georg Meyer
"Business is always about people." Emil Drud and Georg Meyer explore how tech, consulting, and human behavior intersect. From AI myths and the psychology of money to user-centric design and fractal art—this episode blends logic, creativity, and real-world insight. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to...
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EP31 - "Beyond Buzzwords: Innovation, Satire, and the Real Work of Staying Relevant" with Costas Papaikomonou
"Innovation is a tool, not the outcome." Innovation veteran Costas Papaikonomou—aka The Grumpy Innovator—breaks down what innovation really is (and isn’t), why disruption is overrated, and how satire helps cut through corporate nonsense. He shares insights from decades of consulting, writing, and...
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EP30 - "From Corporate to Creative: MBAs, Writing, Storytelling, and Firebrand" with Megan Preston Meyer
"The book is never done, will never be done. At some point, you just have to set a deadline." Megan Preston-Meyer shares her journey from corporate life to becoming a full-time author, her writing process, and the inspiration behind Firebrand and her children's books FIFO safes the Day. She...
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EP29 - "Honoring Your Time on Earth: Purpose, Intuition, and the Future of Work" with Alex Levy
"There is no one more powerful than someone who stops playing the status game and creates their own." In this special episode, Through Conversations host Alex Levy takes the guest seat as Emil Drud interviews him about his book The Time Is Now. They discuss the evolving nature of work, embracing...
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EP28 - "The Art of Action: Creativity, Legacy, and Authenticity“ with Michael Osburn
"The soft skills are the hard skills." Michael Osburn shares his journey from construction to creativity, exploring how personal branding, timeless wisdom, and action shape his work. He discusses the balance between authenticity and online presence, the power of decisiveness, and the importance…
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EP27 - "Reviving Endangered Languages: Innovation, Technology, and Cultural Identity" with Jack Connor
"Technology alone won’t save languages—it’s the communities, their stories, and their pride that truly keep them alive." Emil and Jack explore the critical issue of language preservation, focusing on endangered languages, cultural significance, and revitalization strategies. They discuss…
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EP26 - "Designing the Invisible: Interfaces, Risk, and the Art of Human-Centric Software" with Sebastian Lees
"Beautiful software is the art of misdirection—hiding complexity behind clarity while making systems feel intuitive and human." In this episode, I sit down with Sebastian Lees to explore the intersection of interface design and risk in software. We dive into usability, affordance, and the...
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EP25 - "Relatable Creativity: Visual Storytelling, Solopreneurship, and Building Trust" with Janis Ozolins
"Visuals can be a thing on its own." In this episode, Janis shares his journey as a solopreneur, building an online presence through visual storytelling. He dives into creating relatable content, overcoming perfectionism, and the balance between creativity and business. Discover how authenticity,...
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EP24 - "Nordic Innovation, Health Tech, and Youth Entrepreneurship: How Bilbao Slush'D is Uniting Spain's Startup Ecosystem with Global Vision" with David Cabezon
"It takes a village to build a leader." David Cabezon shares his journey from studying in Finland to becoming a biotech CEO and co-founding Bilbao Slush'D (https://www.bilbaoslushd.com/), emphasizing his passion for health tech and fostering youth entrepreneurship in Spain. He and Emil Drud…
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RECAP#1 - Mindset Shifts, Iteration, and Authentic Success
In this episode of Creative Odyssey, Emil Drud recaps key insights from previous guests, focusing on themes of creativity, mindset, iteration, and self-confidence. He discusses overcoming creative blockages, the importance of sharing work, authentic selling, befriending inner fears, and the role…
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EP23 - "Unlocking the Polymath Mindset: Creativity, Hip Hop, and Personal Development" with Naoufal Fillali
"Follow your true genuine curiosity." In this engaging conversation, Emil Drud interviews Naoufal Fillali, a tech salesperson and aspiring polymath, who shares his diverse interests ranging from art and music to sales and philosophy. They discuss the importance of embracing one's unique…
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EP22 - " Future of Creativity: Digital, Analog, AI, Books, Design Innovation" with Aaron Aalto
"There's nothing that can replace pen and paper." Aaron Aalto (https://www.aaraalto.com/), a New York City-based designer and artist, shares his passion for blending art, technology, and design. His project, Codex Society, curates books from his library, emphasizing their historical and physical...
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EP21 - "Reading Habit, The Current State of Writing, Self-Improvement and Social Media" with Timo Jüptner (@timosnotes)
"Read what you like, what drives your curiosity and then go for about 10 pages more or less." Here's a shorter summary: Timo (@timosnotes), a "bookstagrammer", discusses building a personal brand around non-fiction books on Instagram. He talks about content creation strategies, balancing reading...
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EP20 - "The Power of Challenges: Building Momentum in Creativity and Self-Belief" with Kelly Wilde-Miller
"Creative dysregulation is another way of saying insecure attachment with creativity." Kelly Wilde-Miller, a creativity coach and author, discusses the concept of creative dysregulation and its impact on the creative process. She shares her experience of writing and publishing a book in just five...
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EP19 - "Sharing Work Online, Navigating Technological Development and AI" with JAKE
Jake shares his personal background, including his upbringing, sports, and entrepreneurial ventures. He discusses his interest in technology and its impact on humanity. The conversation also touches on the use of AI, the importance of sharing work online, and the potential for technology to free...
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EP18 - "Somatic Coaching, Authentic Coaching vs. Fake-Gurus, Empowerment & Collaboration Pt.1" with Mike Simon
In this conversation, Emil Drud interviews Mike Simon, a somatic coach, about the practice of somatic coaching and its impact on personal development. Somatic coaching focuses on the mind-body connection and helps individuals become more aware of their thoughts, feelings, and sensations on a...
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EP17 - "Transformative Coaching, Guidance, Authentic Selling, The Intersection of Art and Business, Consciousness in Being and Expression, Polymath Pathways" with Nik Huno
In this conversation, the multi-passionate creative Nik Huno discusses his role as a guide and the difference between guidance and coaching. He emphasizes the importance of intuition and presence in his work. Nik also shares his journey of moving away from manipulative sales tactics and embracing...
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EP16 - "Befriending Inner Monsters, Cultivating Trust, How to Communicate Clearly, Belonging vs. Fitting In and Cohort-Based Learning" with Rick Kitagawa
Welcome to a compelling episode of "Creative Odyssey" with our thoughtful guests, bringing insights from the depths of self-awareness and the heights of collective experience. In today's exploration, we unravel the complexities of inner trust, clear communication, the essence of belonging, and…
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EP15 - "Exploring Paths from Academia to Marketplace: Writing, Self-Awareness, Philosophy, Iteration, and the Dynamics of Entrepreneurial Thinking" with Mahmoud Rasmi (@decafquest)
Welcome to an exciting episode of Creative Odyssey with our special guest, Mahmoud Rasmi, also known as @decafquest. Today, we'll move from academic life to the exciting world of business, diving into creativity, the importance of making and improving, and how philosophy influences business…
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Creative Odyssey EP14 - "Value of Time and Time Management"
In this brief episode I emphasize the value of time and how we can use our time effectively.
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Creative Odyssey - EP13 "Writing: A Creative Landscape"
In today's special episode, I'm happy to share some thoughts from my latest essay, 'A Creative Landscape.' Here, I dive into the idea that creativity is all about seeing things in two ways at the same time, like looking at both sides of a coin. It's fascinating how those who make art, invent new...
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Creative Odyssey - EP12 "Idea to Output"
In this episode, we delve into a topic that's often overshadowed by the usual discourse on creative blocks: the journey from ideation to realization. It's not just about having ideas; it's about the crucial step many of us miss - bringing those ideas into the public eye. I discuss the common...
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Creative Odyssey - EP11 "How to Avoid Surface-Level Content"
In this episode, "How to Avoid Surface-Level Content," we'll share seven simple tips to make your content and products more interesting and meaningful. By doing this, you'll attract a more dedicated community and audience.
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Creative Odyssey - EP10 "Leverage for Creativity"
In this episode, we delve into the essentials of fostering creativity in today's world, touching on the role of AI, philosophy, and the power of small choices. Learn practical ways to amplify your creative capabilities and bring innovative ideas to life.
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Creative Odyssey - EP09 "Effective Writing"
Discover the power of writing as a tool for knowledge in this episode. I'll share top resources and tips that have improved my writing. Tune in to learn how to better connect the dots through writing.
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Creative Odyssey - EP08 "Joy and Success from The Almanack of Naval Ravikant"
How can one achieve both success and happiness? In this episode, I delve into my key insights on the intertwining of joy and success as explored in Eric Jorgenson's "The Almanack of Naval Ravikant". Naval Ravikant, a renowned entrepreneur and philosopher, offers profound wisdom on leveraging...
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Creative Odyssey - EP07 "Creative Mental Models"
Why do some people seem to effortlessly solve complex problems while others struggle? Episode 07, "Creative Mental Models," dives into the fascinating world of mental models, highlighting their utility in fostering clearer thinking and spawning creative solutions. Drawing insights from "Poor...
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Creative Odyssey - EP06 "The DNA of Ideas"
In this engaging episode, we journey into the fascinating world of ideas—their connections, origins, and the intricate pathways they travel through the landscapes of our minds. Ideas are the seeds of innovation, but where do they come from, and how do they connect to form the breakthroughs that...
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The Creative Odyssey Podcast explores creativity, work, and life through thoughtful conversations with creators, founders, artists, and thinkers.Hosted by Emil Drud, the podcast is driven by a simple question:How do people create meaningful things in a world full of uncertainty?What emerges are stories, perspectives, and ideas for curious minds interested in creativity, entrepreneurship, culture, and the human experience.Explore the wider world of Creative Odyssey at creativeodyssey.xyz
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