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Debt Reckoning

The podcast of the Institute of Money Advisers, and the Internet's only debt advice podcast. Join Andy Shaw and Antonio Pupino, plus guests, as we discuss topical issues in money advice and personal finance.

  1. 17

    Is Growth Happening Right Now? (Consumer protection, LIVE at IMA Conference 2026)

    The balance between driving economic growth through reduced regulation and securing consumer protection is a discussion we've frequently had on the podcast. So it was great to take our arguments to the biggest debt advice event of the year, and have them in front of a live audience, together with a panel of experts.Recorded live at the IMA's annual conference at the Lowry Hotel, Manchester, on 4 June 2026, Antonio and Andy are joined by Megan Lloyd (Advice Knowledge team, Citizens Advice), Gareth McNab (Principal, Unsecured Consumer Credit at UK Finance) and John Wightman (Head of Consumer Finance Market Analysis, Policy and Strategy at the Financial Conduct Authority) to consider the important issues - consumer confidence, the role of the Ombudsman, access to justice and more.(NB: For those patiently waiting, Part 3 of our episode recorded at GMMAG will be published very soon).Useful links:FCA report into Retained Provisions of the Consumer Credit ActResolution Foundation: Living Standards Outlook 2026Citizens Advice literature review on consumer protection and economic growthBecome a member of the IMA

  2. 16

    Less Compliance More Defiance (Greater Manchester Money Advice Group, Part 2)

    Antonio and Andy are back with the Greater Manchester Money Advice Group. Our panelists Cecilia Torsney (Royal Borough of Greenwich) and Tim Nelson (GMMAG) join a room full of debt advisers to talk about the most pressing issues affecting them and their clients.In this episode, we consider the changing role of the debt adviser - have we lost our client-centred approach? Do we need to be more adversarial? And what can we do to reverse this direction of travel? Useful links:IMA Conference - 4th June 2026, in ManchesterBecome a member of the IMA

  3. 15

    The Crossover No One Asked For (Greater Manchester Money Advice Group, Part 1)

    What happens when the Internet's only debt advice podcast records an episode in front of a virtual room full of debt advisers? Thanks to our friends at Greater Manchester Money Advice Group, we found out. Antonio and Andy are joined by Cecilia Torsney of RB Greenwich and Tim Nelson of GMMAG to discuss a variety of debt advice-related topics, as suggested by GMMAG members.In Part 1 of our discussion, we cover the perennially difficult issue of communications between debt advisers and creditors, with a diversion into the frustrating world of breathing space.These episodes were recorded over Zoom rather than with our usual software, so apologies for any reduced audio quality.Useful links:IMA Conference, 4 June 2026 in ManchesterBecome a member of the IMA

  4. 14

    Shocking Sir Stephen (A statutory advice duty, with Daphne Hall)

    Happy New Year, listeners! With 2025 in the books, we look ahead (with customary optimism) to 2026 by discussing the National Association of Welfare Rights Advisers (NAWRA)'s campaign to introduce a statutory duty for local authorities to ensure access to social welfare advice. Daphne Hall, NAWRA Vice Chair, joins Antonio and Andy to explain why this is needed, what it might mean for local and national advice services, and how to stop for-profit commercial firms from hoovering up all the money earmarked for helping vulnerable people.Useful links:NAWRA launches campaign for advice to be a statutory duty at the House of CommonsSupport NAWRA's campaignBecome a member of the IMA

  5. 13

    Front Loading the Joy (Debt advice news)

    It's been a while since we last put out an episode - and lots has been happening in that time. Antonio and Andy run through a few topical items that have been going on since our last Debt Reckon, including the FCA's motor finance compensation scheme, a newsworthy intervention from the Enforcement Conduct Board and potential changes to the remit of the Financial Ombudsman Service.Useful links:FCA motor finance redress scheme - press release'Britain's largest bailiff firm forced into refunds scheme after overcharging.' The Guardian, 15th AugustECB: Chief executive's report, October 2025HM Treasury: Review of the Financial Ombudsman Service and the IMA's responseBecome a member of the IMA

  6. 12

    Everything Is A Last Resort (Council Tax)

    It's summertime, which means only one thing - the government will be undertaking some debt-related consultations. This year, the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government have obliged, with a fresh look at the administration and enforcement of council tax, an issue that is always close to the hearts of debt advisers.In this episode, Antonio and Andy take a closer look at the government's proposals, alternately lamenting the missed opportunities and welcoming the chance to make meaningful change. There's also a bonus look at some council tax case law, revisiting our favourite legal phenomenon, the Freemen-on-the-Land.Useful links:MHCLG consultation on council taxR (Peacekeepers Foundation) v Liverpool and Knowsley Magistrates Court [2025] EWHC 1493 (Admin)Become a member of the IMA

  7. 11

    The First Ever Round of Applause (Enforcement, Live at IMA Conference)

    Dealing with enforcement agents is part of every debt adviser's working life, and most advisers would agree that the sector is under-regulated and in need of reform. Since 2023, the Enforcement Conduct Board (ECB) has operated a voluntary scheme where it accredits and supervises participating enforcement agencies. So how effective has this regime been, and what developments should we expect in the future?In this special episode of Debt Reckoning, recorded live at the Rep Theatre in Birmingham as part of the IMA's annual conference, Antonio and Andy are joined by three guests who have plenty to say on this issue: Carole Kenney, the director of welfare at CDER enforcement agents; David Parkin of the ECB; and Yvonne Fovargue CBE, former advice worker and MP for Makerfield, as well as the IMA's current patron.With input from an audience of (mainly) frontline debt advisers, we discuss what changes the enforcement industry has already made to respond to regulation, what statutory powers the ECB might need in future, and the thorny issues of how bailiffs deal with consumer vulnerability and inability to pay.Useful links:The Enforcement Conduct BoardMinistry of Justice consultation into regulation of the enforcement sectorBecome a member of the IMA

  8. 10

    Ignore The Human Element (The FCA Strategy, 2025-30)

    The Financial Conduct Authority, who set the rules and guidance governing most forms of debt advice, have launched their new five-year strategy for 2025-30, explaining how they'll support economic growth and help consumers navigate their financial lives.Aside from the inevitable promise of technological advances, and a doubling down on the view that Consumer Duty is the answer to everything, an early casualty of the FCA's new direction is the long-promised review into the debt advice rules contained in CONC 8. So what does it all mean? Antonio and Andy take a look at the new strategy and consider how it might impact on debt advisers and the people they help.(We apologise for the slightly suboptimal audio quality in the second half of this episode. Technology, it turns out, can sometimes let us down).Useful links:The FCA strategy, 2025 to 2030IMA Conference - including Debt Reckoning Live - at the Rep Theatre, Birmingham, 12 June 2025Become a member of the IMA

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    Accidental, Unavoidable Dividends (Energy Debt Write-offs)

    The rising price of gas and electricity has caused some of the biggest issues seen by debt advisers over the last few years, with people experiencing increasing levels of unmanageable debt. Ofgem, the UK's energy regulator, has proposed a number of interventions to try and address the issue - including a scheme to write off up to £1 billion of unpaid energy bills.But what do debt advisers really think of these ideas? Have Ofgem been talking to the right people? And just how much universal credit does someone receive anyway?We talk to Amy Taylor, chair of the Greater Manchester Money Advice Group, who responded to Ofgem's consultation, about whether the proposals go far enough, and the role of debt write-offs more generally in a debt adviser's toolkit.Useful links:Ofgem: A 'reset' and 'reform' for people in energy debtIMA response to the consultationGMMAG response to the consultationIMA Money Advice Awards 2025Become a member of the IMA

  10. 8

    Antonio Does Mastermind (The New Year Quiz)

    Happy New Year, listeners! With 2024 consigned to the history books, we look back at a year in debt advice with a quiz covering all the important developments in the last year, and a (surprisingly optimistic) look ahead to the next. Can Antonio re-establish his credentials as our resident Money Advice Specialist, or will his notoriously bad memory get the better of him? Useful links: Seculink v Forbes [2024] EWHC 3339 (Ch) Become a member of the IMA

  11. 7

    Staring Into the Abyss (IVAs)

    IVAs are by far the most common form of personal insolvency, with high-profile advertising and promotion helping them to outstrip other solutions. But does this mean that everyone who enters an IVA receives a good service? New research from the Insolvency Service highlights the problems in the 'take-on' process for IVAs, from bad advice at the outset to poor treatment of customer vulnerability. In this episode, Antonio and Andy discuss the Insolvency Service's findings and what they might mean, including a genuine difference of opinion on whether the Government's IVA guidance strikes the right balance. Useful links: Insolvency Service report into Individual Voluntary Arrangements Government guidance about the report Join the IMA

  12. 6

    55 Really Interesting Pages (Public Sector Debt)

    Debts owed to the public sector, including local authorities, are one of the bigger issues facing debt advisers and their clients, with reports of aggressive collection practices and poor approaches to vulnerability. The Money and Mental Health Policy Institute's new report In the public interest? provides new evidence about the extent of these problems. Antonio and Andy are delighted to welcome Toby Murray, one of the report's authors, to talk about the research and what can be done to improve matters. Useful links: Money and Mental Health 'Council Tax Trap' campaign - sign the petition In the public interest? - full report R (Nicholson) v Tottenham Magistrates [2015] EWHC 1252 (Admin) IMA Virtual Conference 2024 Join the IMA

  13. 5

    Better Call SDAS (Breathing Space, Part 2)

    Antonio and Andy are joined once more by Luke Oliver of Shelter's Specialist Debt Advice Service, to continue our discussion of the Debt Respite Scheme (a.k.a. breathing space) and the court decisions that have shaped it. Topics of discussion include: the interaction between breathing space and bankruptcy proceedings, the inclusion of mortgage debts in breathing space, evidence requirements for mental health crisis breathing space and the big question - have the various court judgments for breathing space served to strengthen the scheme, or undermine it? Corrections corner: About five minutes into the episode, we start discussing the case Yianni v Paliouras, incorrectly referring to it as an unpublished County Court judgment. It's actually a High Court judgment, and since we recorded the episode, a transcript is now available to subscribers of Lexis+. We apologise for the error. Court cases cited in this episode: Bluestone Mortgages Ltd v Stoute [2024] (unpublished, County Court at Canterbury) - summary on Shelter Legal Brake & Anor v Guy & Ors [2022] EWHC 2797 (Ch)⁠ ⁠Carter v Davies [2024] EWHC 1536 (Ch) IV Fund Limited SAC v Mountain [2021] EWHC 2870 (Ch) ⁠Kaye v Lees (2) [2023] EWHC 152 (KB)⁠ ⁠Kaye v Lees (3) [2023] EWHC 758 (KB)⁠ West One Loan v Salih [2022] (unpublished, Central London County Court) - ⁠summary on Shelter Legal Yianni v Paliouras [2024] EWHC 1301 (Ch) - summary on Shelter Legal Other links: IMA Virtual Conference 2024 Debt Respite Scheme regulations⁠ ⁠Shelter Specialist Debt Advice Service⁠ - sign up for their ebulletin Join the IMA

  14. 4

    Not Enemies of the People (Breathing Space, Part 1)

    The Debt Respite Scheme, commonly known as 'breathing space,' has been in place for over three years, and has been the subject of numerous court judgments in that time. But what is the overall impact of those cases? Have they served to strengthen the scheme, or undermine it? Andy and Antonio are joined by Luke Oliver of the Specialist Debt Advice Service at Shelter for the first part of this two-part discussion of breathing space and the court decisions that have shaped it. Court cases cited in this episode: Brake & Anor v Guy & Ors [2022] EWHC 2797 (Ch) Carter v Davies [2024] EWHC 1536 (Ch) Kaye v Lees (2) [2023] EWHC 152 (KB) Kaye v Lees (3) [2023] EWHC 758 (KB) West One Loan v Salih [2022] (unpublished, Central London County Court) - summary on Shelter Legal Other links: Debt Respite Scheme regulations Shelter Specialist Debt Advice Service - sign up for their ebulletin Join the IMA

  15. 3

    Making Advice Great Again

    The UK general election is upon us, slightly earlier than anticipated, which means it's time to have a really good Debt Reckon about what the next government should change about the world of debt and debt advice. Andy has been speaking to delegates at the IMA Conference, asking them what one change they would make to Make Advice Great Again (don't abbreviate that). In this episode, he and Antonio discuss their answers - from changing funders' targets to fixing Universal Credit - and reflect on what the priorities for the next government should be. Become a member of the IMA: https://www.i-m-a.org.uk/membership/become-a-member/

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    Wearing Two Hats (The Great IMA Conference Preview)

    Antonio and Andy look ahead to the IMA Conference, which takes place on Wednesday 12th June at the Rep Theatre in Birmingham. Book your place on the IMA website: https://www.i-m-a.org.uk/other-services/ima-conference/ Topics of discussion: The FCA consumer duty, forthcoming changes to debt relief orders, how to solve the problem of energy debt and another interesting item of case law. Links: Changes to debt relief orders: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/changes-to-debt-relief-orders-will-support-people-in-financial-distress Santander Consumer (UK) plc v Chaudhry [2024] EWHC 170 (KB): https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/KB/2024/170.html

  17. 1

    The Internet's Only Debt Advice Podcast

    Andy and Antonio introduce Debt Reckoning, the podcast of the Institute of Money Advisers. In this episode, we discuss the recently-concluded Money and Pensions Service consultation into their future strategy for debt advice. We then move on to the weird world of Freemen-on-the-Land, and some recent case law that might change the way we advise on council tax... or not. Links: MaPS consultation on its future debt advice strategy: https://maps.org.uk/en/publications/consultations-and-responses/2024/consultation-on-MaPS-proposals-for-delivery-of-debt-advice-strategy IMA response to the MaPS consultation: https://www.i-m-a.org.uk/download/15525/ Case transcript of Leighton v Bristow & Sutor (£): https://www.scribd.com/document/695844390/Leighton-V-Bristow-Sutor-Cardiff-Hcj-Judgment-20230920-V-Final Get in touch If you any questions or comments about Debt Reckoning, or a suggestion for a future episode or guest, you can email the IMA at [email protected].

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